Gold , coins , miners , timing

[Paint Your Wagon]

These days I think it is not wise to buy anything bigger then one ounce stamped coins
They are not fakeable at a profit

[Paint Your Wagon]

I read

Helio mercury going into sagi so watch out 8 to 15 october for a double top or new high
Full moon on saturday etc etc

I say
Monthly slow stoch are free to fall like a brick come monday
which means weekly have to fall as a brick
which means 15 week and 11 months cycles are ended

If not ; review the situation lol

I am reviewing the situation , can a villain be a villain whole his life ...
Famous ending song in Oliver Twist musical

[longnine009]

One fine day when math wins, Bernanke
will tell us we're in the middle of sewage
creek with no means forward locomotion. 

[Paint Your Wagon]

You mean up shitcreek without a paddle ?

I sold my last rest positions I wanted to sell in this cycle for 3% better then yesterday
Yet again my ultimate moment39 indicator told me yesterday a better day was coming
today . Unfortunately that mastermoment39v only works for a few days at the end of each 15 week cycle . When it says GO then I switch to 5 minutes stoch and 1 minute macd
If monday were not the first it would have been a better day accordi
ng to mm39v

[longnine009]

E

You mean up shitcreek without a paddle ?

Yes. Caused by quantum interdictions incompatible
with green shoots enhancment.  You gotta say it like
a fed chief. 

[whadda]

As long as you sold into the move up, I guess, is the important thing. I was still selling HL when people where buying, yesterday. Only a core position left in that one (it does pay meager %)  and some in the money options.

[Paint Your Wagon]

Well I got 18% cash and two full positions
NGD and OGC
one brooke
the others dismal

But 3500 gold is going to make this good lol

[longnine009]

More tales from the hookah pipe:
 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/Davos2012/idUSBRE88R12Z20120928?irpc=932

[whadda]

http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/Gold%2019%20Year%20Correction%2009-25-2012.pdf

From this page...http://www.martinarmstrong.org/economic_projections.htm

Also, Norcini's opinion as he marks out both the high and low possibilities...

http://www.traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/

Going to be an interesting coming week. Spot gold put on a higher high so the move up may not be over.

I've been concentrating on selling HL and some NGD for profits. My other miners weren't worth selling at this time.

[Paint Your Wagon]

Gold forecasting at this point is relatively simply

90% possibility we correct in oct-nov and the slow stoch high is over for the 11 month cycle
9%  possibility we go on till feb and the slow stoch stays over 80% and we extend by
5.5 month
1% possibility the world is changed

All indications are the 22 month cycle is still on time

[Paint Your Wagon]

cot is at extremes which prob means we correct next week

[Paint Your Wagon]

Also total cyclic HUI says 29 market days of consolidation

[whadda]

Interesting that Euro-gold is at all time highs. Isn't it?  Does it break out or pull back down?

[Paint Your Wagon]

Interesting that Euro-gold is at all time highs. Isn't it?  Does it break out or pull back down?

It is breaking out as well as the Swiss gold is at all time highs
Once the dollar is fried dollar gold will be at all times highs too
This will happen as soon as people forget about grease and spain
Consolidation in dollars will happen now as well as a retest of the breakout
in euro and swissie

[Paint Your Wagon]

Some week end fun

82 year nun fools uncle sam

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-29/us-nuclear-fort-knox-cracked-82-year-old-nun

[Paint Your Wagon]

Banksters are buggered by announced sodomy

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-28/cyber-attacks-on-u-s-banks-expose-computer-vulnerability.html

[longnine009]

Sounds like they found a new excuse for being broke.
Odd, isn't it, that the "attacks"  happened to the three
biggest assholes?

[whadda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tikrIVNS-jk&list=FL4z74WD1EexQCEdbCn2ckrA&feature=mh_lolz

[Paint Your Wagon]

We have a new law that houses being build from 2016 on have to be energy neutral

First means is isolating so much that you get sick in your own bacteria cause there is no more natural ventilation you have to provide regular forced ventilation

Second means is coupling a decent isolation with heat pumps and solar panels

[longnine009]

We have a new law that houses being build from 2016 on have to be energy neutral

First means is isolating so much that you get sick in your own bacteria cause there is no more natural ventilation you have to provide regular forced ventilation

Second means is coupling a decent isolation with heat pumps and solar panels

Vladimir Lenin      Born:  April 22, 1870
Earth day        Founded:  April 22, 1970

[Templar]

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IGLOOS OF THE INUITS ARE GERM FREE AND BACTERIA FREE---APPARENTLY THE MATERIALS THEY USE TO MAKE THEIR IGLOOS IS VERY PURE AND THEY AVOID YELLOW ICE AT ALL TIME

[Paint Your Wagon]

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IGLOOS OF THE INUITS ARE GERM FREE AND BACTERIA FREE---APPARENTLY THE MATERIALS THEY USE TO MAKE THEIR IGLOOS IS VERY PURE AND THEY AVOID YELLOW ICE AT ALL TIME

Problem is our belgians want 21C inside and and outhouse inside lol

[dharmaeye]

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IGLOOS OF THE INUITS ARE GERM FREE AND BACTERIA FREE---APPARENTLY THE MATERIALS THEY USE TO MAKE THEIR IGLOOS IS VERY PURE AND THEY AVOID YELLOW ICE AT ALL TIME

Problem is our belgians want 21C inside and and outhouse inside lol

 
Yes, ventilation.

Nenner saying gold buy this week?
Armstrong gold pivot week?
Tomorrow suppose to be big pivot day in Market - two other sources.

[whadda]

Elections and the political status quo is preferred even though either candidate ends with more of the same debt problems (SS, Medi-Care, Pensions) which could be solved with 'austerity' at the cost of growth but that is not the real problem is it?  It is banks being kept solvent because of their derivative portfolios that will never recover no matter how much money you shovel their way.

Besides, the puppet masters don't want to have to retrain a bunch of monkeys coming in with a new administration but they would, just a minor inconvenience.

Gold looks a bit overextended. Either swings wild tomorrow and then goes sideways for a month or down while the manipulators show the markets what big muscles they have.

Watch the US$ chart, it is the only thing that matters when falling off a cliff.

I prefer the 2 year correction mode which would end around the middle of next year and wash out all the 'maybe' and 'new' players in metals. From there, it would be panic after panic buying in metals until either the banking system collapses or a permanent fix is found.

[Paint Your Wagon]

A lot of soothsayers think gold goes down shortterm and maybe they are right

In the meantime it is more of the same old

In grease a cd resurfaced with 2000 rich people that have their money in switzerland
Grease is trying to talk the Swissies into taxing them on boths sides. The troika gets
coffee and other things slung at their heads and they were driven from their working offices yet again : this time by municipal workers that forgot to pay their taxes and are afraid of the collector

Holland is said to be short of electricity to this winter

Belgium in a lot of silence toke early tax on pension savers

[longnine009]

Looks like someone is making a movie about
alternative currency, and presumbly the
landscape that will exist when we're done dancing
the Zimbabwe Bop.
 http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=25811&et_mid=582826&rid=233905117

[longnine009]

Quote: In the mean time it's more of the same
old.

The gullitone is the only thing that ever reformed
the status quo.

"Reform" is the most farcical word ever invented.
If someone or something was willing to reform
they wouldn't be in a position needing to be reformed
in the first place.  "Reform" is really appeasment
until no one is looking anymore.

[whadda]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9585098/Al-Qaeda-blamed-for-Europe-wide-forest-fires.html

IF Saudi Arabia was bombed these attacks would end. Why countries appease these people is beyond me.

[Paint Your Wagon]

Iran now has a slight inflation of 59% for the last MONTH
They bought Turkey gold
Why the Turks would sell gold is beyond me

On the other hand all money exchangers are put in jail
Even those that only sell dollars

[longnine009]

Same thing has been going on in Argentina.
They're even using dog's to sniff out black
market dollars.
 http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/070912-617562-argentinian-dollar-ban-will-not-work-because-it-contradicts-markets.htm

[Paint Your Wagon]

Turkey just voted a law they can invade Syria whenever they want because
a mortar shell killed 5 Turks

[whadda]

This sums up the banksters...

[Paint Your Wagon]

This sums up the banksters...

An article in the belgian press sums up the problem

There are too many bankers and they get too much money for their services lol

[Paint Your Wagon]

On the other hand the battle for not aiding grease goes on

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-04/imf-won-t-disburse-greek-loan-if-debt-not-sustainable.html

[whadda]

Trying to stick with the program here. Charts say markets ripe for a sell off but could travel sideways, at least the miners could.

Manipulators have oil prices under control (California having supply problems) and spot gold, so far, probably to influence the US elections. US$ barely hanging in there. With all this manipulation it shows up there in the dollar.

I was in Mexico again for the dentist and filled up for about $3.00 a gallon, my ATM bank card actually gives me the best rate on the dollar/peso exchange so I use that instead of cash.

[longnine009]

 More on Tungsten fakes.
 http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=25824&et_mid=583407&rid=233905117

[Paint Your Wagon]

And a sprinkling of todays good news

Turkish army shells neighbors army
12 000 striking miners fired by Amplat
Amazingly the Canary Islands top vacationing spot year around asks Spain for handout
Somebody opined that 65 plussers should no longer be allowed to vote

Slow stochs are an amazing tool
If the price of gold should stay the same for whole the month they will have daily and weekly of 50% and may have corrected enough on a monthly scale

[longnine009]

Over here the bumcrats look for job security by
trying to get 65 plusers on food stamps. One of
their ideas is to put images of old time movie stars on the
Food Stamp debit cards.  Like Edward G. Robinson
starring in Soylent Green?

[Paint Your Wagon]

I toke a day off and look the world is the same

It just was leaked that Holland and Philips and Heineken etc have prepared a plan for
a Grexit
Part of the plan is now transferring all excess capital out of greece
Holland acknowledges the plan and says they kept it confidential not to excite people

Lagarde of the IMF knows more about dressing and sunbathing then the IMF report
that just was issued

Belgium has given tax breaks on sunpannels for years and subsidies etc
They just stopped all of those
And now the electricity distributors want about 200 euro per year for taking the excess
energy and distributing it

[Paint Your Wagon]

[Paint Your Wagon]

and courtesy of Sinclair

[longnine009]

Merkel is urging greasers to maintain austerity
to stay in the Euro.

Err, 'cuse me angie but doesn't something have
to actually exist first in order for it to be maintained?

I'm telling you she's in a pocket.

[Paint Your Wagon]

Some are getting wise to the fact Germany wants to rule Europe
But they got the oldest average population of Europe rapidly catching up with Japan

Belgium has city elections next sunday
The traditional parties could loose a lot of votes in Flanders but
not enough to not get 50.1% with three parties ( socialists, liberals, christians)

[longnine009]

The ones who aren't aged are getting pretty uppity.
 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-08-14/news/33204040_1_neo-nazi-group-flash-mobs-immortals

[longnine009]

Not very uplifting.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFnqyWHYH4I

[Paint Your Wagon]

Sinclair called the world a few years ago a trainwreck in slow motion

The neos are also getting strong in grease

I just read that the entire GDP of ireland goes to interest payments
Sustainable 

[Paint Your Wagon]

The weekly correction is only starting

The daily correction already finished a high level consolidation

[Paint Your Wagon]

Tengo un corazon mutilado de esperanza y de razon

[Paint Your Wagon]

Tengo un corazon mutilado de esperanza y de razon

The reason why my heart is mutilated by hope and reason is the german ewoofers
view on gold in euro
Why oh why is Elliot not still alive to tell those morons they do not understand him ?

http://www.goldseiten.de/artikel/151936--Gold-in-Euro---Es-geht-los.html

[longnine009]

What's the chart saying?  That the Euro will climb and
then tank?

[Paint Your Wagon]

What's the chart saying?  That the Euro will climb and
then tank?

Nope chart says gold will drop 15% in euro before it can go up 

[longnine009]

Thanks August. I wasn't sure if gold was dropping
beause the Euro was going to get stronger. It seems
like it would for a little while if they got Spain off the
front pages. 

[longnine009]

I was going to watch the debate last night between
Robama and Obamney but I had to clip my toe nails.

Did anyone watch it?

[Goose]

Watch what? I was being entertained by the amount of navel fuzz my navel held.

[Paint Your Wagon]

I saw it on Tv
They should have given both a pair of boxing gloves
Would have made it more realistic then this rooster prancing for a hen

[Paint Your Wagon]

Meanwhile France if giving off clear signals

First Monnaie de Paris is no longer trying to be original or give nice designs
They just crank out gold coins overpriced in too large amounts

They struck 2000 coins of 5000 euro face at an odd 75 grams
and used the old Hercules silver design as far as I can tell

[Paint Your Wagon]

Finally the French film industry made a 2011 film I saw yesterday
L Apollonide

It is all about La maison close
( Literally keylocked house )

It is about the last super de luxe whore house in Paris anno 1900
The madam rents the house from a notary to bring up her two children
She got 9 filles ( whores )
The splendor is unimaginable ( debauchery ) like drinking liters of Champagne from a circulating pisspot in gold. One of the guests has a black cheetah on a leash .
One of the guests makes love in a bathtub full of champagne
One of the girls gets her face cut up with a knife
One dies of syphillis
These girls are all in debt because the clothes and perfume cost more then madam pays
The law prohibits them from going out alone so they are really enslaved because of their
debts

Finally the business goes under because of new girls offering their services in the street
at a fraction of the price

The final scene is anno 2000 where a car deposits a working girl on the street corner
And one wanders if 2000 is really better and more civilized as 1900
I think it is not

[longnine009]

It sounds like a fractal version of western "civilization."
But at least someone made a movie without vampires
in it.

[longnine009]

Does it have English sub-titles?

[Paint Your Wagon]

Does it have English sub-titles?

In Belgium they subtitle everything in flemish even dutch films

So I guess if it is available in the US it will be subtitled

I wonder whether the apollonide really existed because the clients give paper money
and in return they get tookens with the name apollonide on them with which they pay the girls which then return them to madam for a bookmark against their names

[Paint Your Wagon]

It sounds like a fractal version of western "civilization."
But at least someone made a movie without vampires
in it.

The real problem was censure
You cannot make a film like this with all the girls clothed up to their neck
So that had to figure out how to make it realistic without getting in the XXX category
They managed very convincingly

[Paint Your Wagon]

Spain proposes a law to forbid free journalism when the police is involved

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-18/spain-proposes-law-prohibiting-recording-and-capturing-local-cops-action

[longnine009]

Spain proposes a law to forbid free journalism when the police is involved

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-18/spain-proposes-law-prohibiting-recording-and-capturing-local-cops-action

They should outsource that to the yellow dogs
over here.

[longnine009]

So Angie went to Grease last week? What for, to pick  up her check?    
 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-13/after-starting-riots-greece-merkel-booed-germany-next
 
Oh yeah doesn't sound  like the Germans, most
of whom actually work, are in the mood to sponsor
the lives of greasers.  Germans boo-ed her for 14
minutes. You should hear those krauts booing.
They're better than House of Lords.

[Paint Your Wagon]

If october was going to mark the start of a new 11 months cycle
then october had to be a boring sideways/down month for gold
Sofar it has been all that
Only november first will tell if we get a second month of boredom
The monthly slow stochs have to be below 80% to have a chance at
a renewed hausse

[Paint Your Wagon]

I finally got my wifes hospital bill

State picked up 20 000 euro cost
Legal insurance picked up like 3500 euro
My share 1800 euro which I forwarded to my extra legal insurance

No more scheduled visits with the hospital ; I told them we liked other specialists better
We are now on a 6 months scheduled check up with the specialist of our choice which
is unaffiliated and does not make 100 000 euro from an open heart operation or any kick back or any brownee points

[longnine009]

Good for you August! You beat the socialist zombies.  

Now could you come over here  and run for president?
It's okay, you don't really have to be a  native. 

[Paint Your Wagon]

Good for you August! You beat the socialist zombies.  

Now could you come over here  and run for president?
It's okay, you don't really have to be a  native. 

I have one problem
I hate to make impossible promises 

[Paint Your Wagon]

I looked at the slow stoch charts

First the monthly is correcting nicely
Second I have the beginning of a series 12-13-14 months as first in the 22 months cycle
the second been shortening
My best guess is that the 11 months cycle is being hyper manipulated but the 22 months
is holding well
In view of all this I make my next high June 2013 or maybe May

[Paint Your Wagon]

The weekly cycle is already down to 20% and oversold
It is clear now that the nominal 15 week cycle was not present but its harmonic of 30 weeks
was present
Here again the shorter periods seem to easy to manipulate
and forecasting is going to by very difficult

On the other forum people prognosticated shorter cycles
To me they are getting longer in preparation of the hyperbolic were time will be
squeezed

[Paint Your Wagon]

Of course the daily is and stays oversold

I think I am going to hybernate till may-june unless there is a black swan

[longnine009]

Tales from the hookah pipe:
 http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-24/draghi-says-bond-purchases-won-t-fuel-inflation-hit-taxpayer.html

[Paint Your Wagon]

Ford announced today they close their belgian factory
There go about 10 000 jobs

[longnine009]

You would think Ford would add  hiring after all
the "un-expected" good news we're getting every
15 minutes about the U.S economy. I guess we'll
get the expected news after the election.

[Paint Your Wagon]

You would think Ford would add  hiring after all
the "un-expected" good news we're getting every
15 minutes about the U.S economy. I guess we'll
get the expected news after the election.

Ford loses one billion a year here in Europe

[Goose]

Hmmm, it seems that they might need a tax write-off in the U S A.....good thinking.

[Paint Your Wagon]

German government wants gold to return to Germany

Surprise
two thirds of the UK stored gold was socalled take back in 2001 allready

I would not be surprised if large amounts ended up outside of Europe during those days
UK was selling like mad

[Paint Your Wagon]

Looks more then a Head and shoulder then a cup but I will settle for any of the two

[Paint Your Wagon]

Lord Bitch says all pensioned people should work for their pension ( during their pension)


I say Lord Bitch and all other Lords should work plowing 9 months a year before their pension or vacation in the Tower of London


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/26/pensions-technocrats-lord-bichard

[longnine009]

Like some  pus-ass lord knows anything about working.

[longnine009]

Me Lord Bichard, if you want to restore global
competitiveness: cut taxes, cut regulations,
deport your illegals, get rid of your social and
corporate welfare bums, and arrest bankers
gliding through the yardarms singing "yo-ho-ho."
Then increase your GDP by actually getting a job
yourself. Helpful hint- being a lord or civil serpent
isn't really work except to those who have to clean
up the mess. Oh, could you pass this on to our
"sheppards," "cobblers," and "crafters," in the
District of Coackroaches.

[dharmaeye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD77qJTZQSU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb3uCCjH9G0

[Paint Your Wagon]

Ford has set aside 77 000 euro on average per sacked employee and the work is going to go
to Ford Spain were salaries are lower

The Unions are demanding pensions from 50 years onwards

EU is saying they will only help if there are NO early retirments

[Paint Your Wagon]

I spend weeks to select a new computer and it is available in most countries now except
Belgium
I think the problem is that most pc vendors are waiting for win8 since the pc
is sold with a preloaded system and they expect massive interest for win8
( I will downgrade immidiately to win7)

I want i7 with high end nvidia but the main problem is I want a solid state drive
( not an hybrid ) the three requirements together are difficult

None of the Japanese brands have this yet in Belgium
My choice was Toshiba X870-119 but this is not available in Belgium

[longnine009]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD77qJTZQSU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb3uCCjH9G0

 http://rt.com/news/okhotsk-sea-sailors-missing-418/

[dharmaeye]

Fussy but the contrast in Prechter/ Schiff interview is a must listen
http://www.schiffradio.com/pg/jsp/charts/audioMaster.jsp;jsessionid=7363B5F5F9800D6BA2836D904430003A?dispid=301&pid=58334&f=NTgzMzQtdHJ1ZS0xMC8zMS8yMDEy

[dharmaeye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlRMiNR0t98&feature=player_embedded

[longnine009]

10+++++
I liked the way the Imperial Leprechaun had
Eddie Munster hair.

[dharmaeye]

On a roll...........
New business czar by Obama could be called the Wesley Mouch position.
See Atlas Shrugged.

[longnine009]

I read at Daily Reckoning that Ayn Rand didn't like
Anarcho-Libertarians  She referred to them as right
wing hippies. Ungrateful wench. 

I hear they're working on part 2 right now.

[longnine009]

Here's a good one.

 http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-02/rise-in-u-s-unemployment-a-sign-of-growing-worker-confidence.html

Dude, give us some of that $@%& your drinking.

[dharmaeye]

Here's a good one.

 http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-02/rise-in-u-s-unemployment-a-sign-of-growing-worker-confidence.html

Dude, give us some of that $@%& your drinking.

I'm an odd duck/ gentle curmudgeon.
From my background many would suspect that I'm a Liberal/ Democrat.
However, I've learned from experience that denying people logical consequences to their behavior is the greatest crime.
Thus for example I believe civil servants (like judges and parole boards...) should be fully liable as an accessory for further crimes of (drunk) murders, sex offenders... and so on, that they give slap on the wrist. Recidivism is easy to predict.
Open season on social engineers and other busy bodies would make wonderful sport.
Consequences will happen with the coming normalization of world economy where people will have to produce something of value or they will starve. Busy body/ social engineer is not productive/ looters.

http://www.bigheadpress.com/
enjoy hours of stories

[Paint Your Wagon]

Daily and Weekly and Monthly slow stoch are now below 20 %
This meets the necessary criteria for a bottom

But this condition can last for another 6 weeks on the Monthly
So from here till then a bottom will be formed with 98% certainty

Sweet time to view films and persue other interests

I just saw the 2007 film of Edith Piaf ( number 5 or 6 I have seen )
It was a bad idea since I always cry when she dies
I wish they should make one film with her songs and stop at the Olympia concert

[dharmaeye]

Nenner mentioning a low in PM's mid month.

[Paint Your Wagon]

Nenner mentioning a low in PM's mid month.

That is possible but the end of the month is statistically more probable

I got enough cash till the june high so I am really not too much vexed with week
to week happenings

[dharmaeye]

David Bensimon said today a lower low in Feb before the really big move
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQcwfys5WA&feature=g-all-u

[Paint Your Wagon]

David Bensimon said today a lower low in Feb before the really big move
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQcwfys5WA&feature=g-all-u

I do not believe that
The 11 months cycle has restarted and feb is too far out for a bottom followed
by a big move

[Paint Your Wagon]

Miners held very well when the general market had a bad day yesterday

It looks that after all the scare tactics in gold they are now trying to put the average
investor to sleep
Gold in dollars bounced of its 200 ema sofar so good

I am just passing time
Saw a Ludlum film yesterday I had not seen before ,
I read most of his books
The Hollcroft Convenant ( very well filmed )

[longnine009]

Here's Bill Bonner on Capital Account. Not really saying
anything new but Lauren is kind a cute. 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ9x1RiV6HI

[Goose]

CUTE......and no ring. But at around $250K/yr, none of us would have a chance.