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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 12:58:16 AM
Rhodium nr 45 in the table of elements is very rare with one isotope and stable
If she sticks that finger in the exhaust of her car you will have clean air  ;D

http://www.vectorsite.net/tpchem_eRh.html

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December 03, 2008, 01:04:52 AM
OF course i love nr 79 even if it melts at only 1000 c instead of 2000 c for rhodium

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December 03, 2008, 01:06:23 AM
So if she sticks in her finger in a banker's  mouth we won't get pollution from it?  I have a better idea for dealing with the pig faces on wallstreet.

http://www.chron.com/apps/comics/showComic.mpl?date=2008/12/2&name=Non_Sequitur_pan

 



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December 03, 2008, 02:09:17 AM
I think if you paid UAW workers $48 an hour they would be Tricoteuses.
"Ooooh ooooh, watch your fingers. Safety first."   ;D

Maybe we'll see a reverse Castorland. Where pig faces from the U.S go to France. Maybe the U.S Mint could even strike a reverse proof Castorland medal.  ;)

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 03:06:07 AM
What's nice about google is you can links to images. Here's the Castorland medal. One thing the French can do is design and strike metallic art and apparently manage their credit card debt. Maybe we should start taking notes instead of laughing at them. Nah, it's too late for that.  ;D

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/castorland/1796_castorland_obv.JPG

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/castorland/1796_castorland_rev.JPG

 


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December 03, 2008, 03:14:27 AM
That is one nice medal

I worked for 5 years in France
First they have lunch from 12 till 3 pm and if I let them they have supper from 8 till 12 pm
Second from the age of I think 58 on you can start working 4 days and then 3 days and then 2 days slipsliding into retirement
They know their wines very intimitely and were allways trying to educate their little Belgian visitor .( Quality or Environmental expert depending on my contract )
Also they know their food like coq au vin and oysters etc
They are allways amiably discussing politics which no other people can
And in the last round of figures they managed to be ahead of the hardworking germans by 0.1% growth
Good food , good wine, nice women and working just for a living not living to work

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December 03, 2008, 03:35:43 AM
I made the  ClubMed Cruise, courtesy of the U.S Navy,  in the late 70's. We spent a lot of time on Southern France--in the summer time. ;D  Toulon was especially nice. I hope the world "saviors" didn't ruin it with "re-development."

 


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December 03, 2008, 03:45:51 AM
I made the  ClubMed Cruise, courtesy of the U.S Navy,  in the late 70's. We spent a lot of time on Southern France--in the summer time. ;D  Toulon was especially nice. I hope the world "saviors" didn't ruin it with "re-development."

Nah they had all of the eastcoast of Spain on the mediterean to build full of concrete at cheaper prices for land and crapboxes
But then again I "worked" in Spain and they started at 6 am and stopped at 12 and had a siesta till 6 pm and "worked" till 8 pm and then the biggest problem was
to decide what to eat and with whom and where . At the time I was posing as a polymerisation specialist making plastics used by Mercedes et al .
One sunny day all americans and foreigners where flown out and the three factories and headquarters were sold to Franco for one peseta  ::)
I liked the Solomio muy poco hecho . And I learned them to swear in American  8)

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December 03, 2008, 04:38:08 AM
Here's me on top of the French Alps. We had lunch in some restaurant up there and I swear I saw Roger Moore go flying past it on skis in some James Bond movie about year later.

http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2644&g2_navId=x6a86c94e

 


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December 03, 2008, 05:24:27 AM
After 20 years of using the same threat of "job loss if we don't get what want", these CEO clowns are  finally varying the script. Now it's a Depression if they don't get what they want. Yeah right pal! Look out the window. Oh yeah now it's 34 billion instead of 25. What's that, penalty and interest  on the shakedown payment?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081203/ap_on_bi_ge/meltdown_autos;_ylt=AkbUWwNkA1C.IgU5XC74FTCyBhIF
 



 

 


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December 03, 2008, 05:44:22 AM
Here's me on top of the French Alps. We had lunch in some restaurant up there and I swear I saw Roger Moore go flying past it on skis in some James Bond movie about year later.

http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2644&g2_navId=x6a86c94e

Was that the Lac d'Atouste ? I have been with a small narrow rail train up to the highest point in the mid alps at about Lourdes

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December 03, 2008, 05:46:23 AM
After 20 years of using the same threat of "job loss if we don't get what want", these CEO clowns are  finally varying the script. Now it's a Depression if they don't get what they want. Yeah right pal! Look out the window. Oh yeah now it's 34 billion instead of 25. What's that, penalty and interest  on the shakedown payment?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081203/ap_on_bi_ge/meltdown_autos;_ylt=AkbUWwNkA1C.IgU5XC74FTCyBhIF
 

With 500 trillion up to a quadrillion mess a depression is programmed . Question is will it be deflationary or inflationary
You cannot push on a string like the Japanese found out at zero intrest rate .

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 06:10:06 AM
Here's me on top of the French Alps. We had lunch in some restaurant up there and I swear I saw Roger Moore go flying past it on skis in some James Bond movie about year later.

http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2644&g2_navId=x6a86c94e

Was that the Lac d'Atouste ? I have been with a small narrow rail train up to the highest point in the mid alps at about Lourdes

I don't remember the name although they did make a big deal out of it being real famous restaurant.  We went up by bus, which I didn't care too much for with all those hair pin turns.  I don't how Hannibal managed to get elephants around that stuff.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 06:27:54 AM
After 20 years of using the same threat of "job loss if we don't get what want", these CEO clowns are  finally varying the script. Now it's a Depression if they don't get what they want. Yeah right pal! Look out the window. Oh yeah now it's 34 billion instead of 25. What's that, penalty and interest  on the shakedown payment?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081203/ap_on_bi_ge/meltdown_autos;_ylt=AkbUWwNkA1C.IgU5XC74FTCyBhIF
 

With 500 trillion up to a quadrillion mess a depression is programmed . Question is will it be deflationary or inflationary
You cannot push on a string like the Japanese found out at zero intrest rate .

Eventually, I believe it will be deflationary.  This is just a Viagra party to keep the  spent males, from a spent country going.  They'll be lucky if the Viagra even  keeps them from pissing on their feet, let alone accomplishing something.

 


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December 03, 2008, 07:54:42 AM
Inflation or Deflation I am covering both issues by cash and gold allthough I believe the world will find a way to make it inflationary
France is willing to help banks under the provision they loan out 4% more year after year ( even if they have to give it away with a negative intrest rate to be paid which the Swuisse did in the past but on deposits because they did not want any more money )

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 08:49:57 AM

Eventually, I believe it will be deflationary.  This is just a Viagra party to keep the  spent males, from a spent country going.  They'll be lucky if the Viagra even  keeps them from pissing on their feet, let alone accomplishing something.

Even the vaunted "quicker p#cker picker upper" gives out after awhile.

 


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December 03, 2008, 08:56:10 AM
Don't you get 20 spam mails a day for watches and canadian pharma and enlargements and viagra is passé it is soft Cialis now
Long working is what the adds say  :P
It can be so long working you need to go to an hospital to be decialisised
My friend is a doctor and in the ole days it was a copper ring they had to cut off ; now they have to flatulate (if that is the right word )

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December 03, 2008, 08:58:21 AM
11pm here

I am off to bed bwahaha

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 02:20:03 PM

Eventually, I believe it will be deflationary.  This is just a Viagra party to keep the  spent males, from a spent country going.  They'll be lucky if the Viagra even  keeps them from pissing on their feet, let alone accomplishing something.

Even the vaunted "quicker p#cker picker upper" gives out after awhile.

Ben and Paul will  be offering steel implants next--imported from china .  :o

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 02:24:51 PM
11pm here

I am off to bed bwahaha

"Once upon a midnight dreary, while a pondered weak and weary, came a tapping, rapping at my chamber door.  Lenore? Lenore?"

"Quote the Sound bite:  'Deficits don't matter.'"

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 08:52:12 PM
11pm here

I am off to bed bwahaha

"Once upon a midnight dreary, while a pondered weak and weary, came a tapping, rapping at my chamber door.  Lenore? Lenore?"

"Quote the Sound bite:  'Deficits don't matter.'"

Quotes the Raven , "Nevermore"


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 08:54:25 PM
And now for exploration into new legal teritory the notion of pre arranged bankruptcy


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=adBazxCdli5Y&refer=home

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December 03, 2008, 09:11:14 PM
First  a warning ; if you do not have the free Spybot search and destroy with active shield several lyrics sites will try do change your registry up to four times before you get to the lyrics . From the film paint your wagon
DO NOT use the link http://www.soundtracklyrics.net/song-lyrics/paint-your-wagon/best-things.htm

Clint:
There's more than just gold

Lee:
Gold is enough

Clint:
That's buried below

Lee:
Beautiful gold

Clint:
There's seed in the ground

Lee:
Lovable gold

Clint:
Just waitin' to grow

Lee:
Spendable gold
A man has his creed
And mine is all greed

Clint, Lee, and Men's Chorus:
Well bite that bogey 'en hound dog
And gold I ain't got an ounze of
Below there's endless amounts of

Lee:
Just dirty ol' trash
That turns in a flash
To dirty ol' cash

All:
The best things in life are dirty
The worst thing in life is...

Lee:
Wakin' up clean, without a bean

All:
The best things in life are filthy dirty
Hunks of gold, gold, gold,
The best things in life are dirty
The worst thing in life is...
Being content, without a cent
The best things is life are filthy dirty
Hunks of gold, gold, gold, gold
Stinkin', rotten, chunks of
Grimy, slimy, lousy, lovely

Clint and Lee:
Gold



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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 03, 2008, 09:13:15 PM
WEIMAR here we come and we love you .


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 03:13:09 AM
And now for exploration into new legal teritory the notion of pre arranged bankruptcy


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=adBazxCdli5Y&refer=home


Pre-bankruptcy? Is that like  Prop up EL Cid  with a  steel brace for $29.95--"Drop Forged" China.   ??

What they really need is a sugar daddy in the treasury like goldman has.

Oh yeah, a different mission statement might help too.  Something like: "We won't build crap anymore."

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 04:06:18 AM
WEIMAR here we come and we love you .

A very good example of what can be done with design of beautiful coins. But then maybe I'm just prejudice when it comes to Deutschland coins.

Personally I find the eagle talons and the snakelike tongue a bit too agressive . I like the first coins from the series better . The one commemorating the birth of the Euro


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 04:10:01 AM
And now for exploration into new legal teritory the notion of pre arranged bankruptcy


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=adBazxCdli5Y&refer=home


Pre-bankruptcy? Is that like  Prop up EL Cid  with a  steel brace for $29.95--"Drop Forged" China.   ??

What they really need is a sugar daddy in the treasury like goldman has.

Oh yeah, a different mission statement might help too.  Something like: "We won't build crap anymore."



Maybe they should just stick to distribution and financing of somebody elses cars ?


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 09:50:12 AM
A  Modern Parable.

A Japanese company (Toyota) and an American  company (Ford Motors) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri  River   
 
Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak  performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat.  A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.

Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 7 people steering and 2 people rowing.

Feeling a deeper study was in order; American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.

They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

Not sure of how to utilize that information,  but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the row ing team's  management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors,  2 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering  manager.

They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 2 people rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder.  It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rowers.  There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.  The pension program was trimmed to 'equal the competition' and some of the resultant savings were channeled into morale boosting programs and teamwork posters.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.

Humiliated, the American management laid-off one rower, halted development of a new canoe, sold all the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment.  The money saved was distributed to the S e nior Executives as bonuses.

The next year, try as he might, the lone designated rower was unable to even finish the race (having no paddles,) so he was laid off for unacceptable performance, all canoe equipment was sold and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India.

Sadly, the End.

Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages.

TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US   The last quarter's results:

TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.

Ford folks are still scratching their heads, and collecting bonuses...

IF  THIS WEREN'T SO TRUE IT MIGHT BE FUNNY

 :) :) :) :)

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 12:53:00 PM
What a noble gesture when a CEO offers to work for two years at only a dollar per year. Of course the 21 million per year, he (they) are earning now should last them for at least two years. I am just furious that any man gets paid 21 million per year for ANYTHING. And that is just the CEO! What does all the Presidents and Vice Presidents make that actually produce NO viable product for the company. Big corportations are out of control and have been for years but as long as they keep two sets of books and make the stockholders think they are hitting it big then greed wins all around. It is no wonder the average man can not afford a new vehicle any longer! That is almost as bad as $150.00 a pair tennis shoes that were actually produced for less than $15 but the $20 per pair for the rich overpaid adult child playing the game as a pro and the greed by everyone right up to the retailer runs the price up a bit! If I were voting I would say, "Make them all file bankruptcy as that will force them to amend their ways." A bailout will change nothing except the amount of vehicles they continue to make and the workers used to make them.

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December 04, 2008, 02:29:56 PM
Since 1980 they've been sending jobs over seas and then hiding behind their "free market" mantras.  Well what happened to "free markets?" Sink or swim just like everyone had to do. These putrid CEOs should  be happy they're not living in old Rome. The Romans used to make architects stand under the stone bridges they designed and supervised before pulling out the shoring. They didn't have any stockholders to suck dry back then so the  "bonus" for doing what they already paid you to do was breathing again.

And can you believe this! Can you believe it! They are going to strike a commemorative dollar for Paulson. Except they rejected the reverse. Yeah they should have. Take the treasury building off it and put a Golden Enema Bag on it instead. 

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 02:55:29 PM
longnine,

You have to be joking about a Paulson Dollar.

If you are serious it would become the first coin I couldn't stand to look at, let alone collect.

 :) :) :) :)

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 09:26:30 PM
 I am not an american and allthough I agree completely with nobody deserving 20 million dollar bonus I have a few observations .

At one time I was doing an automation projects mechanical and electrical to optimize a chemical reactor . I had like half a million dollar budget in those days and was head and sole engineer using contractors picked by issuing three price requests .I allwayst told those contractors I had enough money and wanted a project that worked . In my 18 years as active "building" engineer I never had a project that did not work .
BECAUSE I ALLWAYS HAD AN ADEQUATE BUDGET  and I allways used the best materials and competent people

Observation  . For projects over 3 million dollars they brought in and american lead engineer. He asked for half a dozen price offers and evaluated endlessly and then picked the cheapest shitty outfit to build an automated whearhouse that did not work . When everything was duly effed up he was replaced by somebody on a low budget to fix the problem and this guy was replaced too . Finally they threw away all of the moving equipment and had a computer specialist replace the program and the thing got working but had lost all the money for the next 10 years they were going to save on making workmen redundant . When you pay peanuts you get monkeys .

Observation . On the complex chemical reactor project they send over five specialists to understand what I was doing and why it worked
One mechanical specialist to understand the construction and explosion containement and explosion releave features
One pneumatical and one electrical expert to understand the controlling equipment that controlled weight and flow and temperature
One chemical expert to understand the safety and operational controlls programming heat generated by the exothermic procerss versus heat transferred and eliminated by the controls in function of the logaritmic curve which changed every minute in funtion of the remaining chemicals
One scheduling expert to understand why the project was on time and within budget
Why can one Belgian engineer coordinate and execute a project and completely answer all questions by himself and why are 5 narrowtrained americans needed to nearly understand what he is saying . Can the education system be that narrow and still survive . Obviously it can for awhile
The japanese are as bad but at least they work together in group and do not make believe they are working together

Last observation unless this becomes a book . A guy I knew got promoted to director because he was half puerto rican and half native indian and he got raised three levels above me and the next time he came to ask me for help I sadly did not have the time to do the free overtime ...........


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 04, 2008, 11:53:58 PM
longnine,

You have to be joking about a Paulson Dollar.

If you are serious it would become the first coin I couldn't stand to look at, let alone collect.

 :) :) :) :)


I wish I was kidding but it's on page 4 of Coinworld 12/8/08. I'm waiting now to see if they are going to strike one for Little Ben. And how about one for the Carnival News Network for meritorious  censorship in a  "free press?"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/cnn-censors-federal-reserve-rant.html

 


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December 05, 2008, 12:10:34 AM


Can the education system be that narrow and still survive . Obviously it can for awhile
.......

You really have answered your own question. The Public Education system in Amerika is designed to dumb people down so they can  be drones on  assembly lines that don't even exist anymore.  The whole idea of Public "education" was that of Henry Ford and Andrew Carnegie. It only survives because teachers, at least most of the ones I came across, are determined to teach students something in spite of the system. Public "Education" in Amerika is a total failure for the same reason that "Capitalism" is a failure. The rank and file tried to do the job. Management stooges in Korporate Amerika and the Public School system caused the failure. And continue to cause it and continue to pat themselves on the back for job well done. Any parent whose child "was left behind" should be dancing in the streets. Their child still has a brain that hasn't been sliced and diced.

 


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December 05, 2008, 12:42:40 AM
Public education in the USA is a joke.  It had the resources to be the best system in the whole world, but can I ask... why in the hell would you want to spend $100K a year on a college degree, like $400K all total to get a teaching job that makes $32K a year?  You can really do line work and have no education and still make that amount of money.

Teaching is an overlooked profession that should be recognized and brought to the forefront of prominence.  Education is as important if not more so than health care etc.  Anybody that goes into education that is good will usually leave education for another field within a few years.  Good teachers are lost to business etc. because they cannot succeed in a failing system.  I know several people, including my Mrs. that left education or went into another field related to education because public schools are a sham.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 05, 2008, 12:44:44 AM
A new round of job losses for November reported this morning, expect the dollar to go south and gold to go north in just a bit.

 


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December 05, 2008, 02:18:18 AM
Public education in the USA is a joke.  It had the resources to be the best system in the whole world, but can I ask... why in the hell would you want to spend $100K a year on a college degree, like $400K all total to get a teaching job that makes $32K a year?  You can really do line work and have no education and still make that amount of money.

Teaching is an overlooked profession that should be recognized and brought to the forefront of prominence.  Education is as important if not more so than health care etc.  Anybody that goes into education that is good will usually leave education for another field within a few years.  Good teachers are lost to business etc. because they cannot succeed in a failing system.  I know several people, including my Mrs. that left education or went into another field related to education because public schools are a sham.

A few years ago I read The Underground History of Education in America by John Gatto. Gatto was a public school teacher for 35 years before he threw in the towel. What he documents in that book will make you puke.

Public schools, are the micro of American politics and crapitalism. Top heavy with rot, corruption and "administrators," whose only interest is their own--to hell with  the teachers and the students. Problems that make the light of day are solved by adding more of the same and lots of pretending in front of the T.V cameras.
Systems rot, they become the served instead of the servers and will fight a scorched earth war with anyone who opposes them. As John Gatto found out.

 


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December 05, 2008, 02:42:24 AM
A new round of job losses for November reported this morning, expect the dollar to go south and gold to go north in just a bit.

This is brave new crapitalism where all news can be put to use to screw the taxpayer.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081205/ap_on_go_co/congress_autos;_ylt=Ajggf21MXQsxzjwc3WfR7pOs0NUE

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Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said "the country is held hostage" by the debate raging over how to help Detroit's Big Three automakers — and the prospect of congressional inaction.
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Like Frank, Dodd, the Seahag and the rest of those communists didn't hold the country hostage with their 700 billion dollar bailout.

 


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December 05, 2008, 04:08:53 AM
From day one, I believed the auto companies will get their bailout with the taxpayers  paying.......again! With a democratic congress, congress knows that the union vote helped them get elected.......a little payback shall we say?

 


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December 05, 2008, 04:36:26 AM

Then we have the Teacher's Union and being manipulated by headquarters in Washington. We get a kick out of the teachers wanting to be thought of as professionals, but haveing a 'union' to belong to. Here in this 'right to work state' we have less of a  problem than most places with union interference. Teacher unions will be the end of teachers just like the union is the cause of most Automobile workers problems now.  So now don't get me started on UNIONS.  So much for my rant1




Over here in belgium when I was young my teacher of chemistry ( 6th modern = 18 year olds ) was a chemical engineer who did not cut it in industry . He was even too stupid to make zinc react with sulphuric and then he heated it and class was emergency evacuated . ( Stupid f used shining zincpellets )
At university one of my main professors in chemistry had left private industry because he could not cut it  . Not the stamina to go and get things done .

Now I proudly annonce as I have for 15 years that the only exam I ever got a C for was from a rep of the Unions who was allowed to come and teach union relationships at a subsidiary of the Northwestern Univ now called Kellog Univ I think
It was third and last year for a MBA with Investment and Industrial Psychology as mayors I took
I essentially told him unions are useless leaches .
Unfortunately after having been unrightfully fired twice I have to say I was wrong . Whitecoller unions should exist and should be strong because it never is top management that solves the crisises . Anyways my first company went to court and got an injunction that I was an employer and not an employee and as such could not join a union .
My second employer I rewarded with a lawsuit and he was condemned to pay me a reasonable separation fee which in belgium for 4 years is 9 months of salary . I was the only univ engineer in the environmental department and when I got ulcers they just discarted me like an dirtrag . We may not have the custom of litigation but I was so pissed of I swore to get even which I did .

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December 05, 2008, 07:38:00 AM
As a teacher for 35 years, I feel a need to respond to some of the recent posts.

I do agree in general about unions, however when I first started teaching (at $4400 a year) I remember wishing we did have a union.  Our school district would always wait to see what nearby districts paid their teachers, and then gave us 1 percent more, or 1 percent less.  Nothing regarding negotiation was possible.  Accept the salary or hit the road.

In the 33 years I worked at one particular school I can honestly say I knew only one individual who should not have been teaching.  There were a few others who were extremely good at their subjects but didn't have classroom management skills.  Other than that, I worked with professionals.

Our three children are products of our school system.  The oldest son went on to earn a B.A., M.B.A. and Juris Doctorate. He is a respected attorney.  Our daughter earned a B.A. and two M.A. degrees and currently runs a VA outreach medical facility.  Our yougest son earned a B.A. and M.A. and teaches high school science.

The point is, they obviously received a good education locally (K through 12) in order to excel in college, and then in their careers.

Back to unions.  There was a time for them earlier in our history when management had complete control over the workers.  My father worked for a railroad, and was very thankful for union support.

Today's unions however, I don't think much of.  Dues required with little or no say as to where the money goes.

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December 05, 2008, 08:34:17 AM
In the unionized schools here, incompetent teachers do exist, and are protected by seniority.  In the non-unionized schools, they are protected only by their job performance, or in some cases by sleeping with the boss.  For every job opening in education here in my state there are an average of 800-900 applicants.  So you can really weed out most of the chaff if you know what you are doing when you hire.

 


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December 05, 2008, 09:52:13 AM
I spend 12 years with the brotherhood of Monsigneur Scheppers
When the Belgian Congo was no longer Belgian the remaining brother were repatriated .
I have seen them kick students litteraly around the playyard, I have been hit on the knuckles by a steel ruler for not having my fountain pen in a straighanded pointing finger when I was 14 years old . My brother at least had the guts last year on vacation in Austria to throw the director in a water trough for cows . Poor cows .
When I was 16 I ran away from school and caused them a panic ; they started telling my mother how intollerable this behaviour was ; but they had not reckoned with the middle class morality who only went to catholic church because everybody else went . So my mother told exactly what she thought of those Congolese standards being applied to high paying flemish kids and they should be glad they did not have a lawsuit for maltreating flemish youngsters and that they should realise they were no longer in the Congo causing the resemblance of educating poor .... but that they were being handsomely paid to teach outside the free statesystem and were supposed to deliver superior quality teaching .
Catholic Louvain University was more of the same ; there was a joke that to become a professor you either had to be clergy (preferably) or married to the daughter of a prof ( second ) or competent as a very distinct third possibility . In 1971 in my  class I had the son of the director general of the belgian television and the son of the director general of the belgian agrarian industry and the son of the rector of the university .
I was there as the only one on one of the first scholarschips for sons of workmen . I finished cum laude .
When I did my MBA in 1981 only the dancepasses had changed . I was paying out of my own pocket and letting them know it . Of course they hated my guts . But all examens were state screened so I had to pass a "maturity" exam before I was allowed into univ
I took english and mathematics as basis and passed . The question of the Engish ass was the difference between a flying machine and an aeroplane

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December 05, 2008, 09:54:13 AM
What I really wanted to post is a parody on a song
This can be the last Contango maybe the last Contango I dunne know ( but I hope it was the last contango)

http://www.professorfekete.com/articles%5CAEFRedAlert.pdf

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 05, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
Ben 's World  ;D


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December 06, 2008, 09:39:07 AM

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December 06, 2008, 12:44:07 PM
longnine,

You have to be joking about a Paulson Dollar.

If you are serious it would become the first coin I couldn't stand to look at, let alone collect.

 :) :) :) :)




I wish I was kidding but it's on page 4 of Coinworld 12/8/08. I'm waiting now to see if they are going to strike one for Little Ben. And how about one for the Carnival News Network for meritorious  censorship in a  "free press?"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/cnn-censors-federal-reserve-rant.html

My mistake. They're not commemorative  dollars but commemorative medals. That's even worse, now they're polluting exonumia with his face.  >:(

 


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December 06, 2008, 12:46:19 PM



Ha, ha. Remember the  AAMCO commerical.  All Paulson  needs is the garden hose and the dead plants:  "Let me try boss, I always wanted to fix a transmisseeeon."

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 08, 2008, 04:15:21 AM
It is party day
They did their thing and got 29 Billion more then a wash
So Stockmarket up Goldmarket up . Party time
I got stuck all day watching one minute charts and sold some Harmony up by 19.8% today . Now Europe is closed but I got another 3 hours and 45 minutes to wath the US market cause I got some Minefinder to get rid off .

But this is funding my coins for new year  ;D

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 08, 2008, 04:18:09 AM
Now they cannot come out and say there is 29 more billions sloshing around
So they write stories  8)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=akiI.XQwyk30&refer=home

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December 08, 2008, 06:45:33 AM
Now they cannot come out and say there is 29 more billions sloshing around
So they write stories  8)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=akiI.XQwyk30&refer=home

I wrote one for them.  The Twelve Days of Corruptmas:

On the first day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, a Loon in the Treasury.

On the second day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, two wallstreet hookers  and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the third day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers  and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the fourth day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers  and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the fifth day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me fiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the sixth day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, six percent unemployment, fiiiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the seventh day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, seven hundred billion missing, six percent unemployment, fiiiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the eight day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, eight Goldman's bilking, seven hundred billion missing, six percent unemployment, fiiiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the ninth day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, nine regulators winking, eight Goldman's bilking, seven hundred billion missing, six percent unemployment, fiiiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the tenth day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, ten speculators leaping, nine  regulators winking, eight Goldman's bilking, seven hundred billion missing, six percent unemployment, fiiiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the eleventh day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me eleven margin calls calling, ten speculators leaping, nine regulators  winking, eight Goldman's bilking, seven hundred billion missing, six percent unemployment, fiiiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury.

On the twelfth day of Corruptmas my gubment sent to me, Twelve Reserve Banks broken, eleven margin calls calling, ten speculators leaping, nine regulators winking, eight Goldman's bilking, seven hundred billion missing, six percent unemployment, fiiiiiive Goldman rings, four corporate jets, three Detroit Turkeys, two wallstreet hookers and a Loon in the Treasury. 

 


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December 08, 2008, 09:50:14 AM
Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has discovered the heaviest element yet known to science.

The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.

These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second, to take from four days to four years to complete.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2- 6 years; It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.

In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.

This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical morass.

When catalysed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.

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December 08, 2008, 02:11:16 PM
EXCELLENT! But doesn't it have a Czar?  ;D

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 08, 2008, 09:46:43 PM
Marvellous both
Many a thruth has been spoken in jest  :D

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 08, 2008, 09:52:08 PM
A Belgian site reports the police lost the controll of the centre of Athen to 4000 insurgants
Will the resort to chinese techniques ? Will they call in the army ? I think they will just lay siege and starve them out
Watered down version from gloomberg attached

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aX.URTR9giR4&refer=home

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 09, 2008, 02:39:12 AM
Riots in Spain

Soon France will have its Parisian riots

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24772832-401,00.html?from=public_rss

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December 09, 2008, 02:49:28 AM
The french like to riot.  It gets the bs out of their systems.  When I was in Paris a few years ago there was a sanitation worker riot going on and we watched it for awhile.  Was kind of fun.  One wonders that if they put that much passion into doing their jobs in the first place that they wouldn't be where they are.

 


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December 09, 2008, 02:50:09 AM
EXCELLENT! But doesn't it have a Czar?  ;D

'Cause now we are going to have a car czar. 

 


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December 09, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
Riots in Spain

Soon France will have its Parisian riots

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24772832-401,00.html?from=public_rss

That one is ours.  We're too lazy here to even have riots so we subbed it out to Spain.  Are they doing a good job for us?  :D

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 09, 2008, 11:22:04 PM
Riots in Spain

Soon France will have its Parisian riots

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24772832-401,00.html?from=public_rss

That one is ours.  We're too lazy here to even have riots so we subbed it out to Spain.  Are they doing a good job for us?  :D

Nah you should have outsourced it to a country without siesta like France  ;D

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 09, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
Now the FED want to print paper that is not money
Who the heck do they think they are fooling ? Roll them moneypresses rawhide  ::)

By JON HILSENRATH and DAMIAN PALETTA
The Federal Reserve is considering issuing its own debt for the first time, a move that would give the central bank additional flexibility as it tries to stabilize rocky financial markets.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122888021757894023.html

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December 10, 2008, 12:56:51 AM
Oh cool. What will be the collateral for this moon paper--the "investments"  they've been buying from  wallstreet or the  treasury?

 


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December 10, 2008, 04:49:11 AM
Best not to be "loaning" any retirement funds whatsoever.  Remember....

Germany, 1922-23
Hungary 1946
Romania 1946-7
Russia 1991-1995
Mexico early 1990's
Turkey 1980s
Zimbabwe never ending cycle.


 


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December 10, 2008, 05:20:14 AM
Let's see! The auto companies are getting an initial payout of $15 BILLION now before they come back in a few months for more. Now the interest for the $15 BILLION at a lousey 4% per year, comes out to $68,400 PER HOUR!!!! Increase the printing presses speed, roll out the money! And what do we get? Hyper-inflation....AND higher prices for silver and gold! Hmmm, sounds good to me for silver & gold.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 10, 2008, 05:42:40 AM
Oh cool. What will be the collateral for this moon paper--the "investments"  they've been buying from  wallstreet or the  treasury?

Please note that the following edition of the Heritage dicitionary of the English language will still have all the swear words used by bookwriters so that foreign students can understand difficult words not thaught at school . But fictitious words like collateral will no longer be supported .
How else can we sell 18 multimillion dollar crapboxes to a hairdressing girl of 20 ?

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 10, 2008, 05:52:50 AM
I've got the impression that it will be some of your retirement funds that they will be using as collateral.  I'm sure you have heard, 'use it or loose it'.

I paid 22% penalty for getting my retirement money in hand and the right to stick my retirement funds in a locker at a swiss airport .
According to Mr Sinclair and his lawyers this does not constitute a foreign account so I cannot be banned from america .... well I am getting confused I never can be an american : I am too old and too often sick and crossing the atlantic ocean does not make me a wetback .

Nah I just will stay here . I like to see people on bycicles . And I like sidewalk cafees to drink heavy beer whilst watching the birds leg it on by.
I also like to walk into exchange agents and walk out with Napoleon 20 franc pieces . And french fries with mayo . And after all we got a Mc Donalds in town
I think it was John D MacDonald the writer who once in a book called it the golden tits of america ( their logo)

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December 10, 2008, 06:34:06 AM
US Govt Posted $164.40 Bln Total Budget Deficit In November
Last update: 12/10/2008 2:00:00 PM
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--The U.S. government spent far more than it collected during November, pushing the deficit above $400 billion only two months into the fiscal year.
The government ran a deficit of $164.4 billion last month, the Treasury Department said Wednesday. It had an unrevised deficit of $237.2 billion in October. Year to date in fiscal 2009, the deficit totaled $401.57 billion.
For all of fiscal 2008, which ended in September, the government had a budget deficit of $454.8 billion, which was a record.

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 10, 2008, 06:36:45 AM
I know two out of six who are the others ? and who is the guy that cannot aford a jacket ?


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December 10, 2008, 07:34:28 AM
Senator Christopher Dodd is the jacketless dude.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 10, 2008, 08:51:42 AM
Senator Christopher Dodd is the jacketless dude.

Thanks
Never met the name , my loss I am sure  ;D

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 10, 2008, 11:32:49 PM
There Is No Fever Like Gold Fever

Like all professors he is mostly right if you understand the context which is not explained
and I mean forward selling goldmines can only go broke if the direct cost to mine is greater
then the price it was sold forwards for and not compensated by a large unhedged position
Even I got that in 3 years of MBA study

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 10, 2008, 11:34:45 PM
Reps in senate holding GM hostage ( not enough campaign contributions ?) Toyota et all should learn the lesson

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFHp8xmezjY4&refer=home

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 10, 2008, 11:36:47 PM
You ask me what comes next in this cycle. Unfortunately, and historically, it is back to bondage

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/degraaf121008.html

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December 10, 2008, 11:57:33 PM
Senator Christopher Dodd is the jacketless dude.

Thanks
Never met the name , my loss I am sure  ;D

Chris Dodd and  Barnacle Franks are the "talent"  that "crafted" the  Failie Mae and Failie Mac taxpayer screw job.   

 


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December 11, 2008, 12:54:08 AM
You ask me what comes next in this cycle. Unfortunately, and historically, it is back to bondage

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/degraaf121008.html

There are quite a few ways of looking at cycles.  All of the ones I've looked into suggest that  our glory days are about to become blurrs in the rear view mirror. That  image of the Army guy standing up in the boat was the American Revolution which was a Fourth Turning. The Great Depression was the "catalyst" before  the "crisis."  The "crisis" being WWll. Forth Turnings begin with a catalyst and end with a crisis. And are the end to the cycle that began about 80 years ago. And when it's over, the nation that went through it is fundamentally changed, for better or worse. We've been lucky so far with at last two of Fourth Turnings.

The U.S Civil War was also a Fourth Turning but it somehow jumped the timing chain in the cycle. After the Civil War the U.S became the  "United States is..."  Where before it was "the United States are"   Is=collective are=individual.  IMO, the "crisis" for the U.S  and possibly  the world will be IS vs. ARE.   Bill Clinton may have been more prophetic than he imagined with his "is" "is."

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 01:12:23 AM
Once we flemish were subordinates of the Great Roman Empire
yes those guys that now pay you back in postage stamps because small coinage is too expensive

Oh my god ; I just read horrible hairraising stories bout mericans being forced to raise their own kids
no more day care and no more nanies
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December 11, 2008, 01:35:47 AM
Nannies, Nannies? We don't need no stinking Nannies.  We have the Publix Skool system.

 


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December 11, 2008, 01:39:39 AM
Once we flemish were subordinates of the Great Roman Empire
yes those guys that now pay you back in postage stamps because small coinage is too expensive

They still have that problem? I got a slice of pizza as change once in 1978 or 79 in Italy because they a change problem.

 


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December 11, 2008, 03:16:13 AM
Once we flemish were subordinates of the Great Roman Empire
yes those guys that now pay you back in postage stamps because small coinage is too expensive

They still have that problem? I got a slice of pizza as change once in 1978 or 79 in Italy because they a change problem.

I do not know currently since it has been two years since I was in Italy
The toll road I toke was equipped with stamps in plastic poaches so you could pass them around . In the mountains I got telephone tokens as change money.
I do not know these days in eurocents they probably drop the change .
Even in Belgium some people will not give you one cent or two cent return
But Ho wait if they ask 3.01 three euro and one cent be sure they will demand their one cent .

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December 11, 2008, 03:18:00 AM
Nice story how the Crimex scuse me I mean Comex treats people that paid for a contract to deliver a 100 ounce goldbar per contract
Of course most settle for money but the contract is really for delivery

http://profitspluscapital.blogspot.com/2008/12/memorable-delivery-experience.html

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 04:00:47 AM
As a young adult I used to admire the English and spend 5 years of vacations travelling through England
All I see today are jokels like this one who does not understand his island is sinking too

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ambrose_evans-pritchard/blog/2008/12/10/greek_fighting_the_eurozones_weakest_link_starts_to_crack

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 05:15:28 AM
The sinking will be well documented. England has more surveillance cameras  per  capita than anyone. But don't tell that to our  Department of Home Boys Job Security. They'll just want to give a trillion dollar camera contract to some senator's nephew  and hire a thousand more  home boys to supervise the "work." Besides we need that trillion for the Goldman boys. It's almost the end of the year, you know what that means?                

 "I just love the smell of Ole Hanks new bills. You can still smell the  ink . In fact the ink is still  wet on this one."

 

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 05:35:49 AM
Hey I like this one.  New Deals never die, they just change color. You know, like lizards do.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081211/ts_nm/us_climate;_ylt=Ah9vGpiHJQ7Z5Qaj44WhveWyBhIF

 Al Gore is so green he looks like a lizard.  Can you say Global Carbon Tax? Awh c'mon we have some way of paying out these bonuses to United Sachs of the World. 

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 06:28:49 AM
Green indeed
Our tomatogrowers in glasshouses use heatcoupled devices generating electricity
They are producing so much electricity that the transporter is refusing new clients
Now this technology is an enormous costadvantage to those that have it , whence protests
They want to go green  ;D

On the other hand everyone who decides to build a first house next twelve months will get 7500 euro reduction in value added tax which buys them an heatpump ( reverse airco ) which gets them further subsidies etc

Our government has decided to give money to people who want to build their first home ( too many working in the building sector)

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 06:46:39 AM
Things don't seem to be too much different in Europe than here. Just a matter of scale guess. Some things are more or less insane over there than here or vise versa. Guess we'll all go down together.   :'(

"...And we would all go down together
We said we'd all go down together
Yes we would all go down together.."
Good Night Saigon--Billy Joel

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 07:06:59 AM
Sad to say but I think the old country (Europe) and the wild west (USA)  will go down together but like I read about the British Empire where the sun never sets it will take longer then I have to live ( like two generations)

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
Sad to say but I think the old country (Europe) and the wild west (USA)  will go down together but like I read about the British Empire where the sun never sets it will take longer then I have to live ( like two generations)

Our economy reminds me of a stooped over drunk who can't stand up or fall down. I wish it would do one or the other and get on with it. Just sitting here waiting for the drunk to fall over is getting to be too freaking  depressing.  Luckily,  we have Little Ben and the Goldman Hankster to laugh at.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 02:36:05 PM
We are based upon one tree,
all my friends and me.
The wind is blowing strong,
I'm not lasting long, the dying tree is red,
it's spinning in my head.
Time is going fast.
I know I'll never last. :'(

author; unknown

Sounds like my future retirement funds you spoke of before OldDan.  :o

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 11, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
The day of truth on GM is coming closer
Scary ; nearly half a million pension plans

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTNPvMt8UJ9k&refer=home

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 01:56:10 AM
After following all this crap on wallstreet for the last year I have to ask what they had against Michael  Milken.  Have any of these pig faces gone to prison? What could Milken have done that was worse  then what's happening right now. And then they called him the "Junk Bond King."  Hehhehehe even Milken's junk was gold compared to the crap these "Investment" bankers sold to the world.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 03:57:12 AM
It's safely invested in the black catties for Union BA's and year end bonuses for the execs for a job well done.  They've done a pretty good job over the last 30 years. They only managed to lose  about 80 or 90% of their shareholders money. It could have been worst you know. They could have lost 99.9% of it. :D

If the  Vice Alpha Monkey  from fannie and freddie wants to steal someone's money to bail out the autos, why don't they steal it from Exxon? They made enough money from GM's Hump Back whales. Besides, we  always do things backwards here. If we're going to be a nation of cannibals we should start with the meaty stuff first.  Exxon looks mighty tasty to me.

I hear the CEO of Merrill Lynch wants a 10 million dollar bonus. For...let's see, best beggar of the year?

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 05:12:11 AM
Hmm
Crapvision just reported the Flemish Government came to the conclusion they need 211 schools good for one billion euro and 5000 jobs
They will pay back the loan - that is the government to the bank - over a period of 30 years as a kind of rentmoney
The bank who is lending the money is Fortis who was saved for like 35 billion by the national government and all shareholders separated in a Holding that is very bare with toxic paper . The bank now is BNP subsidiary of the French BNP . Well that is if the third court they are requested to visit comes to the same conclusion as the first two courts that is that national  government had the right to give away Fortis to BNP whithout shareholders meeting .

I think  everybody should buy cementshares since all countries are going to pour concrete for a few years


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 05:47:02 AM
All this financial mess will be ended with a war.  They always are.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 05:54:22 AM
All this financial mess will be ended with a war.  They always are.

you mean other then Afganistan and Iraq and the half dozen non wars like the Kurds and the Basques and Korea etc
Unfortunately you may very well be right ....

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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 07:02:35 AM
Iraq, Afghanistan, just sideshows to the big conflict a few years down the road.  The players will be much bigger, and have more powerful weapons.

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 08:34:59 AM
I have to agree. America's Fourth Turnings in the past have ended with wars. Not "police actions" but to the death scotched earth wars. Do they have a mortgaged backed  security for glass parking lots?

 


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Re: World Tranquility for another Week
December 12, 2008, 12:15:57 PM
I think this war will involve China and possibly Russia.