ebay

[Paint Your Wagon]

I posted the question on the forgeries forum

A good fake sometimes is worth a lot more then melt

I am allowed to give it back for melt I paid 10 days ago but
I don't know that is a good option
Keeping a good gold fake may be better
Any exchange agent will give me 95% of melt on a gold fake

[Paint Your Wagon]

What is the world coming to
1 ounce 100 mills silver plated crap with silver 0.999 in the description
Pure trap for those that do not know their vocabulary
And I think on ebay France that is 99.9 % of all people

http://cgi.ebay.fr/LINGOT-ARGENT-GIRLS-GONE-WILD-or_W0QQitemZ270533327674QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_monnaie_lingots_pepites?hash=item3efd0afb3a

[Paint Your Wagon]

My wife her birthday present from ebay just arrived from germany
Oh how pleasant buying on ebay can be
Now let's see the private insurance squeem

The vendor paid back the auction price 120 euro (presumably by way of the insurance )
but NOT the mail costs of 9.90 euro
What do I do ?
Give a negative nonetheless or try to squeeze the other 9.9. euro out of him ?
I am soooo convinced he packed it broken up to swindle the insurance since some of the glass splinters
were outside the bubble wraps . But I cannot accuse him because I have a witness but do not know
the possibilities of this breaking inside a double bubble wrap and then splinters getting outside the double bubble wrap ( but I feel it close to impossible )

[Goose]

I would explain that why should you pay the 9.9 euros for something you didn't get? Be persistant.

[Paint Your Wagon]

I would explain that why should you pay the 9.9 euros for something you didn't get? Be persistant.

You are right of course
Once somebody shows me goodwill I get too soft .

But I seem to have read somewhere in the insurance policies of paypal or ebay or
the post that postage is not refunded

If the vendor were Belgian I could demand substitution by a perfect undamaged example
delivered to my doorstep ( that is the theory because with my totalled car it took me
3 years court to get what was mine )

[Paint Your Wagon]

I just gave an history lesson to a german ebayer in english

I paid 120 plus 9.90 euro for a broken Swarovski figurine
He paid me back 120 but not 9.90 postage
I told him so
Now he has the nerve to apply for ebay cancelation
I answered him the same that general said in the Ardennes during WWII

NUTS

He will understand that he can take a flying fuck at a roling donut 

[Paint Your Wagon]

He was unhappy with Nuts
and called me a coward

Now he claims he paid back the money because he wanted to be nice
not because he had to

So I told him the german government offered to pay back my father for the failed
vacation of 1940-1944 about 50 years after the claim was in and about
5 years after my father died and that I no longer knew what to think of a
figurine packaged in a way it could not break and still arrive in 8 pieces

I think he shipped it broken ; but I cannot say so because that is libel
But the splinters of broken glass were outside three layers of bubble plastic

I rest my case ( and hope to get unaddicted to ebay in a hurry : I am going to go into
selfhypnosis and tell myself I loath ebay : ebay makes me sick : ebay is only for suckers :
do not push submit buttoms ; do not even look anymore ; forget ebay exists  ;
now I am going to wake up in 5.4.3.2.1 counts and will have forgotten ebay exists )

[Paint Your Wagon]

My wife her birthday present from ebay just arrived from germany
Oh how pleasant buying on ebay can be
Now let's see the private insurance squeem

The vendor paid back the auction price 120 euro (presumably by way of the insurance )
but NOT the mail costs of 9.90 euro
What do I do ?
Give a negative nonetheless or try to squeeze the other 9.9. euro out of him ?
I am soooo convinced he packed it broken up to swindle the insurance since some of the glass splinters
were outside the bubble wraps . But I cannot accuse him because I have a witness but do not know
the possibilities of this breaking inside a double bubble wrap and then splinters getting outside the double bubble wrap ( but I feel it close to impossible )

I gave the guy ample time to reply and his last answer is that I should be glad he paid back the insured statue and that I only loose the postage
So I gave him a negative feedback
Only the 7th or so in 7 years ebay
Really should have been nr 28 or so

[Paint Your Wagon]

Here is one of those coins saying
Gold I gave to protect and iron I took for honor
( they should have said lead in a firing squad)

http://cgi.ebay.de/1916-Gold-gab-ich-zur-Wehr-Eisen-nahm-ich-zur-Ehr_W0QQitemZ110502844922QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item19ba7b99fa

[TwoShadows]

Gold sure has a strange color in Germany doesn't it?

[Paint Your Wagon]

Gold sure has a strange color in Germany doesn't it?

The seller is a Suisse girl called Ernuesli
She call everything uncirculated unless it spend the war on the tracks of a panzer tank
She is very notorious with the cognicenti

I bought a cheap vicky sovereing from her and it never arrived and after 3 months
I was refunded
I bougth a double eagle MS64 from her and she shipped it in such a way customs
wanted 18% tax
Never ever again do I even bid on Erdnueslis beautifull rare uncirculated coins 

It is a mistery to me she has such a good feedback the way she overates everything to
uncirculated and rare

[Templar]

WHAT DOES ERDNUESLIS LOOK LIKE ???MAYBE THAT EXPLAINS HER GOOD FORTUNE???

         YOUR SERVANT.......THE TEMPLAR

[Paint Your Wagon]

WHAT DOES ERDNUESLIS LOOK LIKE ???MAYBE THAT EXPLAINS HER GOOD FORTUNE???

         YOUR SERVANT.......THE TEMPLAR

Nobody knows what she looks like because she sells in Germany and she is Swisse
Her company is called Peanut.AG

Her good fortune is explained by the fact that 95% of the ebay buyers
don't know a pollished jeweller piece from a MS65 coin

[Paint Your Wagon]

ahaha

Certificate nr 1 and an horrendous price

What the seller ( littlewingdarlinggirl) does not know is that
certificates are allocated by luck of the draw
So the first coin minted can have nr 500 on the certificate

http://cgi.ebay.de/100-Euro-Gold-Frankreich-06-Zertifikat-Nr-1_W0QQitemZ290410841728QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item439dd5c680

[Paint Your Wagon]

Nice new 50 ruble coin of st george and the dragon

http://cgi.ebay.de/50-Rubel-Russland-St-Georg-Drachentoeter-2010-GOLD-NEU_W0QQitemZ360241999584QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item53e018aee0

[Paint Your Wagon]

Nice medal
But three times too expensive

http://cgi.ebay.fr/QUATRIEME-REPUBLIQUE-Module-de-20-Francs-or-Mai-1955_W0QQitemZ140389995258QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs?hash=item20afe552fa

[Paint Your Wagon]

Expensive 5 ounce cat

http://cgi.ebay.de/Zaire-10-000-Nouveaux-Leopard-5oz-155-5-g-Gold-extrem_W0QQitemZ320500351498QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Coins_Bullion_Bars_SM?hash=item4a9f4f420a

[Paint Your Wagon]

This is the fourth time this guy puts this thing on for 35 000 euro
I do not think he is ever going to sell it on ebay for that price

http://cgi.ebay.de/Audemars-Piguet-Gold-Skelettuhr-UNIKAT-178-Diamanten_W0QQitemZ290412949107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren?hash=item439df5ee73

[Paint Your Wagon]

A two dollar coin I never saw before by my very own  Erndnuesli
She says stgl which is MS63
No way but it could be MS60 if it is real
She guarantuees authenticity ; but this is a coin I would surely submit for grading and authentication

http://cgi.ebay.de/2-Dollars-1888-Gold_W0QQitemZ310206424295QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item4839be64e7

[Paint Your Wagon]

Gee whiz
I thought this 10$ indian coin was MS with something feeling wrong

The professional vendor says very honestly the coin was lightly cleaned
which was the something wrong I felt
A good piece for jewelry buyers

http://cgi.ebay.fr/USA-ETATS-UNIS-10-DOLLARS-OR-GOLD-INDIAN-HEAD-1907_W0QQitemZ160415137325QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_Pi%C3%A8cesMonde?hash=item25597cbe2d

[TwoShadows]

They never do specify whether it was "lightly" cleaned in 1930 or just before it was posted for auction and the photo? Also they never reveal whether it was cleaned by dipping, a Q-tip or a wire brush?

[Paint Your Wagon]

They never do specify whether it was "lightly" cleaned in 1930 or just before it was posted for auction and the photo? Also they never reveal whether it was cleaned by dipping, a Q-tip or a wire brush?

Looking at the picture it was no Dip and no Q-tip
Probably a copper cleaning fluid to make it shine
It is retoning so the cleaning should have been 20 years ago
The interesting question is ; are there scratchlines under 12X maginification
visible
If not in another 20 years it will retone so that virtually no average collector can see
the cleaning any more .
So might be an intresting coin for somebody that still has 20 years time to wait 

[TwoShadows]

I have seen cleaned coins that were very appealling and were needed for my collection. Many times I was ready to buy when I pulled out the magnifying glass. Isn't it amazing what a magnifying glass can do for old eyes? It just kills me to walk away from a coin I have been dreaming about for years because some idiot decided to make it "more" presentable! Sometimes the best intentions don't always work out. I guess we all find out, in this hobby, there is a right way and a wrong way to do things.

[Paint Your Wagon]

I have seen cleaned coins that were very appealling and were needed for my collection. Many times I was ready to buy when I pulled out the magnifying glass. Isn't it amazing what a magnifying glass can do for old eyes? It just kills me to walk away from a coin I have been dreaming about for years because some idiot decided to make it "more" presentable! Sometimes the best intentions don't always work out. I guess we all find out, in this hobby, there is a right way and a wrong way to do things.

When I was 12 I cleaned a dozen napoleons with sidol copper cleaner because I liked them sparkling
When I tried to sell them later I lost 5% of value because of the cleaning and they were generic coins ; probably sold for full price to the next client

So I asked myself what is dirty ? Fingerfat and dirt .
So I put the coins in a row on top of the kitchen cupboards
I was making french fries every day in those days .
I turned the coins over regularly for 2 months untill the were sticky as hell
I then went to the cellar and toke the dust from the wine bottles and smeared it on
till the coins were no longer sticky .
I then sold most of them to an exchange agent who does not take out a magnifying glass
on routing coins and I had won 5 % .

I still have a few of the coins cleaned in the 60's and it is impossible to see 50 years later
which coins were cleaned unless you take out 10X maginification
They retoned nicely .
My coindeling friend retones them with a bunsenburner in 5 minutes 

[Paint Your Wagon]

I just was second bidder on a Vicky sovereign 1880 in AU condition at 10% above melt
Jee I figured everybody was out of money ( pensions are tomorrow and salaries 27 th like)
But there was this whole sale buyer putting no more then 3 bids above mine of which only
the first was activated : he is going to be happy.
I got an MS shieldback so I was not really trying but I hate
to come in second .

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390169302811&autorefresh=true

[Paint Your Wagon]

France is selling a dozen very rare Obama golddollars

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Tres-RARE-Piece-1-dollar-Barrack-OBAMA-OR-Neuf-A-Voir_W0QQitemZ250601487981QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_Pi%C3%A8cesMonde?hash=item3a59033e6d

[Paint Your Wagon]

They also sell a gold replica of the Philharmoniker

http://cgi.ebay.fr/100-Euros-DOR-2009-Osterreich-Replica-FDC_W0QQitemZ180484239143QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs?hash=item2a05b2ef27

[Paint Your Wagon]

NGC MS64 Napoleon
Yes but with slide and I am not going to pay 100% over melt for a "slide" coffined coin

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Spendide-20-Francs-Or-Oro-Gold-1860-A-MS-64_W0QQitemZ320505691821QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs?hash=item4a9fa0bead

[scottishmoney]

Bought at nearly $100 under melt - guess nobody likes Ethiopian gold:



Also bought a 1931 Austrian 100 Kronen at about 75 % of spot for the gold in it.  Pays to look at the overlooked coins in online auctions.

[Paint Your Wagon]

Bought at nearly $100 under melt - guess nobody likes Ethiopian gold:



Also bought a 1931 Austrian 100 Kronen at about 75 % of spot for the gold in it.  Pays to look at the overlooked coins in online auctions.

Yes you are right but I am starting to think about an exit strategy
From 2016 on I may sell some
With that in view I do not buy anything under melt anymorebecause I may just be able to sell at melt minus 10 % and have to drive twice for evaluation and payment

I am now focussing on sovereigns and napoleons but that is not easy to get at melt
However I just oredered a 2006 mexican ounce at melt and that was luck
it being sold on a german forum

[Paint Your Wagon]

King Arthur and the Knights of the round table for sale
Copper covered with silver and gold


http://cgi.ebay.de/Gold-Gedenkmuenze-Koenig-Arthur-Ritter-der-Tafelrunde_W0QQitemZ180486367309QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item2a05d3684d

[Paint Your Wagon]

Unbelievable
I have seen gold bars down to 5 grains this week

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Lingot-en-OR-avec-certificat-Goud-5-g-Gold-995-Bar_W0QQitemZ130379650185QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_23?hash=item1e5b3b9489

[Paint Your Wagon]

MS66 ?
NGC must be joking
First thing I saw was a rim damage at 10 O'clock and the reverse has fingerfat in the fields
MS64 would be more like it

http://cgi.ebay.de/NETHERLAND-GOLD-10-GULDEN-NGC-MS-66_W0QQitemZ260580886347QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item3cabd4c74b

[Paint Your Wagon]

Christ
Marta wants ten times the price of silver for an Aussie ounce

http://cgi.ebay.de/2010-Treasures-of-Australia-Silver-Proof-with-GOLD_W0QQitemZ260581902169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3cabe44759

[Paint Your Wagon]

Now I have seen it all
A one gram feather bar only goldplated 
Who would want to pay the postage on that ?

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Lingot-en-Argent-1-Gramme-Plaque-OR-24-Carats_W0QQitemZ130381437403QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_23?hash=item1e5b56d9db

[TwoShadows]

Some fool who thinks he is buying gold? And, quite obviously, it is apparent most folks other than coin collectors DON'T know what a gram bar would look like. The photos are great but paying a $1.00 for a gram of silver adds a whole new meaning to the high price of silver. Makes those full ounce coins worth well over $32.00 (By the gram) and brings a smile to the postal workers faces when you buy by the gram! What a joke and people are actually bidding on them?

[Paint Your Wagon]

Some fool who thinks he is buying gold? And, quite obviously, it is apparent most folks other than coin collectors DON'T know what a gram bar would look like. The photos are great but paying a $1.00 for a gram of silver adds a whole new meaning to the high price of silver. Makes those full ounce coins worth well over $32.00 (By the gram) and brings a smile to the postal workers faces when you buy by the gram! What a joke and people are actually bidding on them?

Starting price is 2.5$ a gram that is 78$ an ounce for the goldplated silver and lets guestimate 5 dollar for the goldplating that is 73$ for the silver
And he says replica has not to be imprinted since it is an original design  

I don't know what a 1 gram bar looks like . The smallest I got are 5 grams Credit Suisse
feather bars   Of course I have a few 1/10 th of an ounce coins in a full series of 1 ounce down . I am trying to buy Marianne Roosters at melt with no luck . 5.8 gram gold
according to the Latin Standard

Why can't we make a limited series in silver plated copper 1 gram and sell it for 1 $ plus 4 $ postage ? They just said on TV the price of belgian houses is rising cause copper and steel are going up ( not a word about gold)

[Paint Your Wagon]

A new all time low
Medal of 0.22 grams of unknown % of gold
I would not even be able to way it on my electronic scale at 0.01 gram accuracy 

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Medaille-en-or-0-22gr-UMBERTO-II_W0QQitemZ320514763325QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_23?hash=item4aa02b2a3d

[skisnowmass]

Those remind me of those fake California territorial "gold" pieces that were so popular 10 years ago (I still see them sold on ebay in waves every now and again).

It's like gold foil.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1852-CALIFORNIA-GOLD-STAR-1-2-TOKEN-OCTAGON-UNC_W0QQitemZ350337005354QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item5191b6772a

"gold content unknown."    You don't say.

[Paint Your Wagon]

Those remind me of those fake California territorial "gold" pieces that were so popular 10 years ago (I still see them sold on ebay in waves every now and again).

It's like gold foil.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1852-CALIFORNIA-GOLD-STAR-1-2-TOKEN-OCTAGON-UNC_W0QQitemZ350337005354QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item5191b6772a

"gold content unknown."    You don't say.

Thanks for the link ; those do not make it to Europe because we got an underground factory of smallest coins of the world which are 0.5 grams gold content unknown

I think if you sneeze this medal would flutter away if it was not plasticised in board

On the other hand I used to apply " sturmgold" to my silk paintings . Gold is the only material that can be made in a monomolecular layer . 10 sheets of gold 24 carat 4 x 4 inch were like 2.5 dollars . You apply with some adhesive and it looks like a lick of goldpaint . You cannot dry clean cause the gold all 0.25 cent of it will be gone .
On the other hand for that price I have been known to reapply the gold .

[Paint Your Wagon]

Manet 500 square coins only
Another honest ebayer who trippled the postage cost to make an extra 32 dollars without
paying ebay

http://cgi.ebay.de/20-EURO-2008-EDOUARD-MANET-GOLD-NUR-500-EX_W0QQitemZ140398699107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item20b06a2263

[Paint Your Wagon]

By happenstance I saw this silver dragon from Swisse
Took me 10 seconds to find out where the dragon was 
What a sorry excuse for a dragon 

http://cgi.ebay.de/SCHWEIZ-20-Franken-1996-Silber-Drache_W0QQitemZ350341894826QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item51920112aa

[Paint Your Wagon]

can you believe this joker ?
a 12 900 euro coin he is holding on his fingers 
Possibly fake as hell

http://cgi.ebay.fr/AUREUS-OR-DE-MARS-SUR-UNE-MONNAIE-DE-CARACALLA-RARE_W0QQitemZ110524008010QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_monnaie_pi%C3%A8cesantiques?hash=item19bbbe864a

[Paint Your Wagon]

God spare me
Very rare ( only 5000 
1 gram silver with gold plate
Dragon

http://cgi.ebay.de/LUNAR-DRACHE-GOLD-SILBERBARREN-PP-SELTEN_W0QQitemZ130386307779QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen?hash=item1e5ba12ac3

[Paint Your Wagon]

This looks like an MS61 5$ worldwide shipping

http://cgi.ebay.fr/SUBLIME-BRILLANT-FRAPPE-5-OR-1897-/380228733283?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_Pi%C3%A8cesMonde&hash=item5887660963

[Paint Your Wagon]

Anybody ever seen a french gold purse for goldcoins ?
With 6 pearls and 2 rubies and 2 diamonds
First time I see this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.fr/PORTE-LOUIS-OR-RUBIS-DIAMANTS-42-8-gr-/280499790354?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs&hash=item414f172212

[TwoShadows]

I can see right now I am in the wrong line of work! There is a great amount of money and fools out there just waiting to buy whatever I can create! What have I been thinking?

[Nevol]

If it's only for gold coins, I'd have exactly 3 coins to put in it.  Hardly worth it! 

[Paint Your Wagon]

He says he tested the purse wire and it is 8 carat and worth 450 euro to melt
what if it is only silver plated with 8 carat gold ? or worse
A density measurement would be needed to determine but at 8 carat and the clasp 14 carat and the ruby and the diamonds that is not practical .
So it can be anything

I would not put my coins in a metal purse even if it were real gold

[Nevol]

Interesting comments in this Ebay item:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1907-P-PCGS-20-1-OZ-GOLD-ULTRA-HIGH-RELEIF-PROOF-70-/330428825031?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4cef17bdc7

[Paint Your Wagon]

Interesting comments in this Ebay item:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1907-P-PCGS-20-1-OZ-GOLD-ULTRA-HIGH-RELEIF-PROOF-70-/330428825031?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4cef17bdc7

So what is new ?
If with a 10x led loupe in hand you cannot see the cleaning then it is not cleaned or retraining is needed

A few months ago I bought two lucky angels off ebay france and  both were cleaned and I complained
I got as an answer from the vendor HE did not clean them ; so it was not HIS fault
I gave two negative feedbacks and he considered that VERY HARSH treatment 

Everybody is out their to grab your money

[Paint Your Wagon]

It is disgusting to see the US certificate calls this a golden proof 
Anyway can anybody tell me that half a pound equals 8 ounces ? 

This is the huge golden Sacagawea

http://cgi.ebay.de/Gedenkmedaille-SACAGAWEA-2000-8-Unzen-999-24-k-Gold-/330429756345?cmd=ViewItem&pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item4cef25f3b9

[Paint Your Wagon]

Now who would pay money to have a restrike certified ?
I have one guess

http://cgi.ebay.fr/PIECE-DE-20-F-OR-COQ-ANNEE-1912-/220601370689?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs&hash=item335cddc841

[Paint Your Wagon]

SEWER Gold  Bwahaha
These french should at least take a dictionary to tranlate the action
of throwing grain to grow

http://cgi.ebay.fr/500-OR-2010-SEWER-GOLD-RARE-/130399217532?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_monnaie_pi%C3%A8ceseuro&hash=item1e5c66277c

[Paint Your Wagon]

NGC

Is Brilliant Uncirculated a grade ?

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Statere-Aureus-dOR-Brutus-Koson-43-42-JC-/220621084719?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_monnaie_pi%C3%A8cesantiques&hash=item335e0a982f

[Pocketcoins]

I reckon that would depend on who you talk to. I see it used a lot. The Sheldon 70-point scale and the Official American Numismatic Association Grading Standards for U.S. Coins make no note of such a grade. So I would say no Brilliant Uncirculated is not a grade. I'm sure some would disagree.

[Paint Your Wagon]

I reckon that would depend on who you talk to. I see it used a lot. The Sheldon 70-point scale and the Official American Numismatic Association Grading Standards for U.S. Coins make no note of such a grade. So I would say no Brilliant Uncirculated is not a grade. I'm sure some would disagree.

Through trial and error me and my coindealing friend established that FDC ( fleur de coin)
should be MS65 if the vendor is honest . BU however is allover the place from MS60 to MS64 I have the impression. So I am amazed NGC got away with a BU which means zip apart that it hopefully is uncirculated

[Paint Your Wagon]

I understand NGC grading on French coins less and less
Cathy from whom I bought many times has a series coffins
This is one of the first time in 7 years that I see the grade MS61 handed out so many times
Normally it is MS60 for a really scarred bagmarked coin or MS62 for  a somewhat better
specimen
Here those MS61 look better (if they are really MS because coins that old really retone)
On the other hand the AU coins look way overgraded . The AU55 is low XF in my opinion

http://shop.ebay.fr/cathy92400/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

[Paint Your Wagon]

This guy is looking for an idiot to give him 3900 euro 

http://cgi.ebay.fr/20-Francs-Or-Genie-2eme-Republique-Rare-1849-TTB-/260620909501?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs&hash=item3cae377bbd

[Paint Your Wagon]

Here we go again
A trustworthy vendor where I bought dozens of times now has idiot help
selling that Canadian junk for 900 gold

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110547831402&_trksid=p2759.l1259

[Paint Your Wagon]

A set of 1848 testpieces from a "championship" to design the best coin
First time I ever see these ( they are zinc )

http://shop.ebay.fr/pidulux/m.html?_nkw=or&_sacat=0&defsort=12&_odkw=&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1313

[Paint Your Wagon]

Cartwheels fabricated by using two powerfull lights on a VF that may be cleaned
20$ coin

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Superbe-de-20-DOLLARS-OR-ANNEE-1895-/320550343425?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_Pi%C3%A8cesMonde&hash=item4aa24a1301

[Paint Your Wagon]

A templar geocoin
first time I see that

http://cgi.ebay.de/Templar-Geocoin-Antique-Gold-/130401967606?cmd=ViewItem&pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item1e5c901df6

[Paint Your Wagon]

Shame on ¨PCGS
They give an MS63 and it is an AU58
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FRANCE-20FRANCS-OR-NAPOLEON-III-1868A-PCGS-MS63-/330444733602?cmd=ViewItem&pt=FR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs&hash=item4cf00a7ca2

[TwoShadows]

   I have found that dealers and "big" money clients tend to get higher grades than us normal collectors. Of course the grading services will deny that but it is a lifelong fact in my opinion. They have to take care of their big business so to speak!

[Paint Your Wagon]

   I have found that dealers and "big" money clients tend to get higher grades than us normal collectors. Of course the grading services will deny that but it is a lifelong fact in my opinion. They have to take care of their big business so to speak!

The guy who taught me everything I knew about grading was first a professional fotoshopper and then a coindealer until his wife left him
He did estate purchases and retail sales
When you submit your coins ten at the time every week you tend to be known as
somebody who needs to be satisfied or he goes to the competition
The most honest seems to be NGC , when they make a mistake it is because they got
a new grader or somebody who had a very nice night behind him .

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If anybody is intrested
I know this guy for 7 years
sells worldwide
10$ 1893 in XF condition

http://cgi.ebay.de/USA-10-Dollar-1893-Liberty-GOLD-16-70-Gramm-/310229519425?cmd=ViewItem&pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item483b1ecc41

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60% over melt for a MS65 coffin of the lucky angel

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330444735559&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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a one gram brass buffalo ? WTF

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Lingot-BRASS-aspect-OR-1-gramme-BUFFALO-bar-/130405627395?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_23&hash=item1e5cc7f603

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Germany is in vain trying to conpete with silver eagles and leafs and philharmonics and pandas etc
Berlin Mint is making a one ounce medal in silver
The Quadriga has a very nice design but feels too expensive to me

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260630739762

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Now this is a success story
Germany started a gold coin series of 1/8 of an ounce ( very weird denomination)
With the first coin comes the box for all further year coins  ??
On top of that in all their wisdom they decided to half the volume because ??
Result the mints got 150 euro for the coin plus box and all of ebay is getting
300 euro or better immediately from those that missed the start of the new coin

Here is a guy who says 4 times he only sells the box and gets 265 euro 
But he posted a photo with the coin it the box 

http://cgi.ebay.de/20-Euro-Goldmunzen-Etui-Etui-Holzetui-Deutscher-Wald-/290461828027?pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen

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MS61 beats me why NGC gave that grade
It is either AU59 or MS63 and I would only bid AU

http://cgi.ebay.de/SERBIA-GOLD-20-DINARA-TYPE-1-NGC-MS-61-/260656966243?pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen

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MS63 and the most ugly I ever saw
Even the vendor hesitates to call it splendide and makes it superbe+++ which is like AU58
I would go with MS60 in view of all the bagmarks
PCGS seems even loser then NGC

http://cgi.ebay.fr/FRANCE-50-FRANCS-OR-GENIE-1904A-SUPERBE-QUALITE-/330467932078?pt=FR_GW_Monnaies_Pi%C3%A8cesFrancs&hash=item4cf16c77ae