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Offline RgGoodie

George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 07:16:29 AM
does anyone know anything about a George V 1920 Pattern Crown?
I passed one up
I can not find it listed in Maccas

rggoodie
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Offline EgCollector

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 08:51:41 AM
I couldnt find anything in my Krause, but this is what i found on ebay. Hope this helps 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUSTRALIA-George-V-1920-Pattern-Crown-in-Copper_W0QQitemZ120228350424QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120228350424

"AUSTRALIA - George V, 1920 Pattern Crown struck on a square flan, colonial crowned portrait of George V, with Kookaburra reverse. From the Spink, July 2001 Pattern Auction. Plain edge and 35mm in diameter, brilliant Proof pattern struck in COPPER with a mintage of only 700 pieces"

Amr :) :) :)

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Offline TwoShadows

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 12:01:39 PM
Well I went to bid on this much desired SQUARE coin and lo and behold someone I know is bidding on it!!! One thing is for certain there will be last minute sniping on this item. Hopefully a KOTCT member will add this to their collection! It would be a worthy addition.

Terry
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Offline EgCollector

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 12:11:34 PM
I hope he will.  :)

Amr :) :) :)

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Offline RgGoodie

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 12:54:18 PM
This is the one I was after Click on link below

Pattern Crown

rggoodie
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Offline RgGoodie

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 12:55:59 PM
But I still can find no references to the coins in any of the guides

Nancy are you out there?

rggoodie
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Offline TwoShadows

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
I sure wish someone could verify these patterns were struck as it is a great looking square coin. There is another on Ebay but.......no Mackers?

Terry
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Offline Humpybong

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 01:05:26 PM

I think they are false......cannot find any reference to them.

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Offline RgGoodie

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 10, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
Just got off the phone with a dealer in OZ (Bigfella)
These coins were not done by the mint.

they are nice but not of Australian Numismatic value

there are however some nice Kookaburra pattern coins to be found in Maccas  15th edition s on page 341
These were minted in 2002-2005

Spink is the Uk representative of Downies- they may have been created by them

BACKGROUND of the Patina Patterns



Initiated in 1999 there was an idea to produce an official series of six legal tender Millennial coins for a Commonwealth country, like the Solomon Islands or Zambia, which would feature the six monarchs of the twentieth century; Victoria, Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, George VI and Elizabeth II. British Sculptor Donald R. Golder completed the task of sculpting twenty Royal portraits, which were inspired by contemporary coinage models.

The envisaged six-coin series never came to fruition, but two of Golder’s royal portraits were eventually featured on the 2001 Zambia coinage set which commemorates the death of Victoria and the accession of Edward VII in 1901.

A parallel series of modern high quality unofficial “retrospective patterns” for Great Britain, Australia, Canada, Cyprus, Hong Kong, Ireland, Isle of Man, Jersey, New Zealand, South Africa, and Southern Rhodesia have been produced using all of Golder’s modern obverse portraits, coupled with modern reverses which are based on old designs. All the unofficial pieces offered in this part of the sale have therefore been struck in the years 2000-2001.

A.G. Wyon’s original model for the reverse of the 1910 Pattern crown, has been used to inspire some unofficial “pattern crowns” for George V and Edward VII. William Wyon’s “Three Graces” design, personifying Ireland, England and Scotland, has been the inspiration for a quantity of modern Victorian “patterns”.

There is a modern “wreath crown” of Edward VIII featuring a new version of Kruger Gray’s popular reverse motif and several modern “patterns” for Ireland, which emulate those of Reginald Huth.

rggoodie
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Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 11, 2008, 12:44:15 AM
I'm still here, but I know absolutely nothing about these coins. Sorry Richard, can't help.

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Offline RgGoodie

Re: George V 1920 Pattern Crown
March 11, 2008, 01:00:41 AM
Thanks Nancy,

but as you can see with much research and few calls back to the land of Oz,
I was able to find the answer

These are nice coins but they certainly were not minted in 1920 !!!

(see my post above)

rggoodie
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