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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 09, 2017, 06:22:31 PM
Looking good Daniel.
Now we have a few collectors of coins with birds on them.
Can you add a few birds in the sky or an eagle perched on a tower.
Now before you say anything, I'm just kidding. LOL.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 09, 2017, 07:29:21 PM
Mate, now that looks superb  8) Amazing how a few smaller details can make such a huge difference, well done.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 09, 2017, 08:59:35 PM
Honestly, I like the design either way but I think the castle and castle wall without the rocks looks cleaner.  IMHO, the addition of the rocks makes the bottom half of the obverse design seem busy because it already has the grass and the two outer rings.

However, I am open to adding a few Damsels-in-Distress waving from the castle.  Kidding.

Either way, great work by DC.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 09, 2017, 09:38:58 PM
PERFECT............ ;D

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 10, 2017, 04:33:46 AM
Great job Daniel ;D.  I think it looks perfect.  The addition of the medieval brickwork looks great.   Ready for dies.....


On another note, a couple members have asked to add to their orders.  I asked Daniel if this was possible if we do it quickly, and he said yes.  Since we are so far along, I will take any additions to your existing order, or new orders until this Friday December 15.  Yes that is less than a week  :o  Payment will also be due on Friday December 15.  Please let me know as soon as possible if you would like to add to your order either by PM or in this thread.  I have attached the prices again for anyone interested.

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 19, 2017, 10:47:48 PM
The die engraving is done. Next is the heat-treating (hardening). And I'll need to start fabricating blanks.

But I have just realized that there is one problem with the order.

The first year (2007) medal dies were sculpted and engraved by me, but they were struck by Regency Mint in Utah.
This was because I didn't get my coin press going until 2008. Because the 2007 dies had to fit in Regency's coin press, they were engraved on Columbia style die blanks. After the 2007 medals were struck, I did get the dies back from Regency. In 2008 when I engraved dies for that year's medal, I used US Mint style die blanks because those fit my coin press. Because the 2007 dies didn't fit my coin press at the time, and because I don't like to have old dies sitting around (I view them as a liability in case they fell into the wrong hands), at some point the 2007 KotCT dies were defaced and scrapped. So I have no 2007 obverse die to make the 32 silver "2007-2017 Double Obverse" strikes. That would have been a neat piece, but I think we will need to come up with an alternative. Here are some ideas:

Blank reverse with some counter-stamping (such as "Knights of the Coin Table / 2007-2017"). Also, this could be struck with a reeded edge while all others would be smooth edge (with edge lettering on silver).

Instead of the blank reverse die, I could use this generic die that has a blank section across the middle for imprinting:


Or this Stonehenge die which I still have:




 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 19, 2017, 10:51:16 PM
Better picture of the Stonehenge (actual struck piece):

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 04:39:15 AM
I think the Stonehenge option is a great idea.  The other design is just too plain compared to the 2017 KotCT design.   I would also prefer a reeded edge since the Stonehenge medal says 1 Troy ounce 999 silver.  It should be an interesting medal, even though it wasn't the original idea.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 04:58:11 AM
Wasn't there a Stonehenge obverse that said 1 Penny?  I think that one might be cooler, I don't know.  Either way it should make for an interesting medal.  Too bad the original idea didn't pan out, but c'est la vie.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 08:01:32 AM
I also like the Stonehenge Obverse.

But for the Reverse, I'd prefer the KOTCT design. Is that easily do-able?





 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 10:28:09 AM
I'm not happy.
Sorry I don't like either "RECOMMENDED" design changes.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 12:14:17 PM
I'm not happy.
Sorry I don't like either "RECOMMENDED" design changes.

Dennis, after reading your PM, I think you misunderstood what Daniel is proposing.  A total of 4 dies (39mm Obverse and Reverse, and 50mm Obverse and Reverse) are being made.  The only option affected by this is the 07-17 Double Reverse for which you have ordered 1.  It was going to use the original 2007 die which is not available.  The only extra cost Daniel was charging us for this type was a proof polish, and half setup.

This does not affect the 2007 silver eagle over strikes.  They 2007 Eagles are currently at the Moonlight Mint, and will be struck with the 2 new dies. 

If you still do not want the double reverse mule with Stonehenge on one side and the new die on the other, this is not a problem.  I can refund the $35 to you.   I did get a PM with interest in ordering some with the Stonehenge Design on one side. 

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 12:42:49 PM
I also like the Stonehenge Obverse.

But for the Reverse, I'd prefer the KOTCT design. Is that easily do-able?



That is the idea, 2017 KotCT die on one side, Stonehenge die on the other.  This would replace the 07-17 Double Reverse 39mm Silver. 

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 03:26:31 PM
Wasn't there a Stonehenge obverse that said 1 Penny?  I think that one might be cooler, I don't know.  Either way it should make for an interesting medal.  Too bad the original idea didn't pan out, but c'est la vie.

Yes, I do also have available a "One Penny" Stonehenge die. The "Two Pounds" die is appropriate for 1-troy-oz silver medals because it is marked as such.

I have a bunch of silver blanks on order, and I won't be able to strike until I get them (but I will be fabricating the bi-metallic blanks myself).
So there is still time to adjust orders and quantities as desired.

I can offer the following options, and KotCT can decide which one(s) to make available:









Note that the 2017 obverse has no specific reference to "Knights of the Coin Table" and neither does the Stonehenge dies. For any of these I could use a reeded edge or a smooth edge with edge lettering "Knights of the Coin Table" and "2007 - 2017" (or similar).

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 03:30:29 PM
Also note that the Stonehenge dies do not have a full proof-like finish and I don't think I want to do any more polishing on them because the current finish looked best when I last used those dies in 2012.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 04:19:39 PM
Personally I like this option in silver with a reeded edge (1 side KotCT shield, 1 side Stonehenge).  This would replace the 07-17 Double reverse 39mm Silver.  Proof or satin for the shield side would be fine, what ever you think would look best Daniel.

I think we should skip the copper unless there would be a lot of demand for it since it would require another die setup, and cost more than the regular copper.  Also it would create quite a bit of extra work for me as far as keeping track of everything on the spreadsheets, and adding new columns on all of the spreadsheets, and changing all of the formulas.  That said if a lot of people want both I will do it.

If you would like to add some of these to your order (or pull some off of your order and get refunded for them) please PM me, and be ready to pay for them by Wednesday December 27.

Thoughts on the Silver Stonehenge / KotCT Shield with a reeded edge?

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 04:57:14 PM
I vote for the first option with Stonehenge reverse.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 07:16:07 PM

...I think we should skip the copper...

...Thoughts on the Silver Stonehenge / KotCT Shield with a reeded edge?

I'm changing my vote in favor of the Stonehenge/Knight-on-horseback design. That keeps important elements ("2017" and "Tenth Anniversary") on a face.

And although I generally prefer a reeded edge, I think this design needs an edge-inscription ("Knights of the Coin Table") -- which requires a smooth edge, right?

Also I agree:  Skip the copper version.


 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 07:59:23 PM
I'm liking the Knight on horseback obverse with the 2 pound Stonehenge reverse.
What would be the cost for these?

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 08:34:01 PM
The cost is $35.  I'm ok with the Knight on horseback since it seems to be getting more votes.  I would prefer the reeded edge rather than an edge inscription though.

Reeded edge or Smooth with "Knights of the Coin Table" inscription?

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 20, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
I agree: Knight on horseback/Stonehenge, and reeded edge.

Thanks!

 


Offline HOOT Owl

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 21, 2017, 01:34:28 AM
Dang, I wish I had ordered a couple of those..... :'(

 


Offline Sir Shipe

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 21, 2017, 03:36:34 AM
I kinda like them both lol. The knight horse and stonehedge prolly a slight favorite.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 21, 2017, 11:55:19 AM


Me 2......

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 21, 2017, 01:40:35 PM
Knight on Horseback with Stonehenge for me !

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 21, 2017, 09:49:54 PM

Maybe the shield and Stonehenge could be the start of our 2018 medals?

 

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 22, 2017, 12:36:35 AM
I like the knight and Stonehenge.
Perhaps we could consider a (KOTCT) counter stamp on the obverse?

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 22, 2017, 05:37:07 AM
I like the knight on horseback and Stonehendge in Silver, skip the copper.  This will replace the double reverse 07-17 option as originally planned.  I still want 2 total of each medal, whatever option we go with.

Thanks!

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 26, 2017, 01:44:46 AM
If you would like to add some of these to your order (or pull some off of your order and get refunded for them) please PM me, and be ready to pay for them by Wednesday December 27.

Do we have pricing and options yet for what appears to additional design type for the 2017 club medal since the proposed payment date is tomorrow?

Ken

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 26, 2017, 01:57:11 AM
I will make something up so everyone knows what they ordered, and what is available.  I ment to do it a few days ago, but things just because too busy for the holidays.  Check back in about an hour or two.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 26, 2017, 03:31:58 AM
After looking at all of the posts of what people would prefer to replace the 2007/2017 dual reverse medal, it looks like the new knight on horseback design paired with the Stonehenge design with a reeded edge is the most popular option.  It will be a 39mm silver medal just like the other medal would have been.  There will be one type of this medal and Daniel can pick the finish of the knight die (satin or proof) which will match the Stonehenge die the best.

I have also attached a spreadsheet so everyone will know how many of this design they have ordered.  If you would like to change your order of this medal, please let me know by tomorrow 12-27-2017.  The cost will be the same as the original, which is $35.  I hope this clarifies things, if you have questions please let me know.  These medals will not change the order for any of the other medal type.

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 26, 2017, 05:46:47 AM
I'll keep my order the same as it was, replacing the 2 Stonehenge medals for the 2 dual reverse.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 26, 2017, 05:38:15 PM
After looking at all of the posts of what people would prefer to replace the 2007/2017 dual reverse medal, it looks like the new knight on horseback design paired with the Stonehenge design with a reeded edge is the most popular option.  It will be a 39mm silver medal just like the other medal would have been.  There will be one type of this medal and Daniel can pick the finish of the knight die (satin or proof) which will match the Stonehenge die the best.

I have also attached a spreadsheet so everyone will know how many of this design they have ordered.  If you would like to change your order of this medal, please let me know by tomorrow 12-27-2017.  The cost will be the same as the original, which is $35.  I hope this clarifies things, if you have questions please let me know.  These medals will not change the order for any of the other medal type.

Jim, I'd like to order 3 of those please. Ready to pay, just let me know how.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 26, 2017, 10:07:17 PM


I would like to order 2 of these medals thanks


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Offline SilverFan

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 27, 2017, 04:35:24 AM
I thought I had ordered one of the 39mm silver satin medals, and it does not show up on your recent Stonehenge list.  Would you please post the entire spreadsheet when you get a chance?  Thanks!

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 27, 2017, 10:52:28 AM
I thought I had ordered one of the 39mm silver satin medals, and it does not show up on your recent Stonehenge list.  Would you please post the entire spreadsheet when you get a chance?  Thanks!

I will post it once it is updated, I don't want to create any more confusion by posting an outdated sheet.  Silver fan, your order is for 1 Silver Satin (Knight on 1 side, shield on the other), 1 Silver Eagle overstrike, 1 silver/brass, and 1silver/copper.  You did not have one of the double reverse which is now the Stonehenge/Knight on horseback medal.  Let me know if you would like to add one.  The silver satin that you ordered is the main 2017 design.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 27, 2017, 11:00:00 AM
Take your time Jim... Your doing a fine job at this very time consuming chore.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
December 27, 2017, 11:09:10 AM
Take your time Jim... Your doing a fine job at this very time consuming chore.

I'll second that. :)

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 04, 2018, 11:50:05 AM
Thanks for everything, Jim.  Any update as far as when the medals will be struck?

Thanks!

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Offline SirStacksALot

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 04, 2018, 08:29:41 PM
This is the email reply I received from Daniel on December 29 after paying for the additional Stonehenge medals:

"Got it, thanks !

 

PS:

The dies have been heat-treated (hardened). Bead-blasting and polishing is next."

That's the latest that I know  :)


 
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Offline Drsmp

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 13, 2018, 12:53:48 AM
Very cool medal! Thanks for all the time and work to make these available

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 13, 2018, 02:12:12 PM
Hey guys, lost my password when my phone crashed so I haven't logged in in a while but just found it saved on my tablet. Can't wait to see the medals and get them in hand! I'm a bit bummed though that I had to reduce my order due to financial problems back when ordering. If anyone got any extras of the copper bi-metal and would like to send it to a fellow knight who can afford it now let me know please. Out of the ones I had to cancel that's the one I'm kicking myself over :(

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 22, 2018, 09:33:18 AM
Any update since the last on posted on Jan 5th?

Thanks for your hard work Jim!

Matt

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Offline SirStacksALot

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 22, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
The last email I received from Daniel was on January 15th, and he said that he planned on striking our medals as soon as the blanks came.

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 28, 2018, 07:15:08 AM
I have been locked out (not locked away) for a while, I noticed that my name was still on the list Dec 2017, is it too late to settle up?

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Offline SirStacksALot

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 28, 2018, 05:47:38 PM
I have been locked out (not locked away) for a while, I noticed that my name was still on the list Dec 2017, is it too late to settle up?

I don't have the records with me right now, but I thought everyone except for one had paid for thier order.  I'll check the records tomorrow.  You might have also paid Barry before PayPal held up our funds.  Mabye Barry might be able to look it up faster than I can.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 29, 2018, 05:31:10 PM
I have been locked out (not locked away) for a while, I noticed that my name was still on the list Dec 2017, is it too late to settle up?

I don't have the records with me right now, but I thought everyone except for one had paid for thier order.  I'll check the records tomorrow.  You might have also paid Barry before PayPal held up our funds.  Mabye Barry might be able to look it up faster than I can.

Barry found a record of your payment for your medals, and I have your shipping information.  You are all settled up, and will get them when they come in.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 30, 2018, 04:53:16 AM
Jim,

I am moving in mid February, I will PM you my new address.

Thanks,

Matt

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 30, 2018, 05:10:20 AM
Will you still be hiding in Oregon ?

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 30, 2018, 05:27:41 AM
Yep, just moving to the country a little!  ;D

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 31, 2018, 12:33:28 AM
I see he has NEW stuff up....any word on our stuff?

 


Offline D. Carr

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 31, 2018, 07:55:15 AM
Greetings Knights,

I realize that the 2017 medals are long overdue.
I've been working on the blanks and I had to come up with some procedures and special tooling to fabricate the 50mm bi-metallic planchets. I have not made any bi-metallic blanks that large before now. But the blanks are ready. So I will start striking the 2017 KotCT medals later today. Due to the overall quantity and the myriad of different versions the striking will take a few days.

 
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Offline HOOT Owl

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 31, 2018, 07:59:00 AM
That's what I'm talking about.... ;D

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 31, 2018, 11:20:35 AM
Awesome!  :) :D ;D 8)

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Offline SilverFan

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
January 31, 2018, 12:13:56 PM
Looking forward to receiving my medals!  :)

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 09, 2018, 04:21:35 AM
Is anyone else super pumped for these medals? Thanks to all involved!

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 09, 2018, 05:16:20 AM
ABSOLUTELY ~ They may very well be Daniel's best creation yet !

 


Offline Zoins

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 10, 2018, 03:11:20 PM
Better picture of the Stonehenge (actual struck piece):


I would actually love to have the 10th Anniversary obverse with a Daniel Carr Test Pattern reverse! Any chance of making some of those? :)

By the way, I can't wait to receive mine and I love the discussion on these forums.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 10, 2018, 05:07:00 PM
Better picture of the Stonehenge (actual struck piece):


I would actually love to have the 10th Anniversary obverse with a Daniel Carr Test Pattern reverse! Any chance of making some of those? :)

By the way, I can't wait to receive mine and I love the discussion on these forums.


I'd order 2 of those as well!

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Offline SirStacksALot

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 11, 2018, 08:28:22 AM
That's a cool idea, unfortunately I think we are way past the point of changing orders without delaying the medals.  Hopefully Daniel will be shipping them soon  :)

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 12, 2018, 12:16:48 AM
I have finally been able to strike some of the 50mm medals. I'm doing those first since they are the hardest. I have had trouble getting a full strike on the perimeter. I have found that I have to strike first in the collar, at near the load limit of the 400-ton press. Then at somewhat reduced force I broad-strike over that. The result looks more like a normal strike than a broad-struck, and the perimeter details are better. The overall diameter comes out to about 51mm, however. I will do all 50mm medals the same way. I will be back at it tomorrow to finish the 50mm medals. Then I will do the 39mm medals (which should go smoothly since I've done many like them before).


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 12, 2018, 04:29:42 AM
Thanks Daniel ~ Do you think you could send us an image at some point ?  All of your great work is greatly appreciated ! 8)

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 14, 2018, 12:52:13 AM
Not that my opinion means much as a newbie member, but 2008 was my favorite and the one I've managed too collect the most varieties of to date . Being a 10th anniversary though it probably should be something special :)

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Offline D. Carr

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 17, 2018, 09:42:55 AM
I was finally able to stamp (and edge mark) all the 50mm medals. There were considerable challenges at every step: making the blanks (I can't buy these pre-made so I have to make them myself- including the bi-metallic); polishing the dies (it was difficult to polish just the middle part without affecting the outer ring area); striking (all sorts of issues and I had to resort to a number of tricks); edge marking (they kept slipping while in the edge marking machine).

But they came out pretty nice. Now on to the 39mm medals which should be much simpler and faster to produce.

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 17, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
Thanks for the update Daniel ~ When you say the came out "pretty nice", that means a lot  8).

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 18, 2018, 02:25:32 AM
I've been feeling the ground shaking a little here in Indiana....I'm wondering if what I'm feeling is Daniel is pounding out the rest of the medallions?

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
February 23, 2018, 02:35:03 AM
Hello knights, any updates on delivery time frames?. We must be getting close.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 01, 2018, 07:06:55 AM
I'm guessing any day now.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 01, 2018, 08:30:53 AM
I haven't heard anything since Daniel's last post on the 17th.  Hopefully soon  :)

 


Offline D. Carr

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 01, 2018, 11:10:51 PM
I didn't want to interrupt my production of the KotCT medals, but I had to go on a road trip for several days and then had car trouble which delayed my return by several more days.

But I have now been able to strike all of the proof-like 39mm medals, uniface medals, and Stonehenge medals. Due to the revised reverse (shield) engraving, they struck up more easily than before, but for some reason the medals wanted to stick to the reverse die. So after every strike I had to pry them off by hand (very carefully - so as not to damage them in any way!).

So at this point what I have left to do is:

Striking the 39mm satin-finish medals.
Edge marking the 39mm silver medals.
Antiquing the 39mm and 50mm medals.
Printing and hand-signing of 628+ certificates.
Inserting medals and certificates into the "flip" holders.
Shipping.

I am going to work on nothing else this weekend so that I can finish everything.
I will need confirmation of the address where to ship them.
Since there is about 628 medals, a single package containing them all would be too heavy.
So there will have to be at least two separate packages.

Another option (and I realize that this is short notice), if any person(s) would be willing to come pick up the medals in person, I could give them a tour of the mint and conduct demonstrations, etc. If that is not an option at this time, then perhaps a KotCT meeting and tour at my mint could still be arranged for some date in the future.


 
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Offline Felinfoel

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 01:10:20 AM
> perhaps a KotCT meeting and tour at my mint could still be arranged for some date in the future.

Yes, please!

Thank you for all that you do, Dan.

 - Eric

 


Offline D. Carr

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 07:12:01 AM
> perhaps a KotCT meeting and tour at my mint could still be arranged for some date in the future.

Yes, please!

Thank you for all that you do, Dan.

 - Eric

I should add that if some person(s) were to come pick up the medals in person, they could stay for a tour. But that would not preclude the possibility of another general KotCT meeting and tour at some later date.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 07:22:59 AM
I didn't want to interrupt my production of the KotCT medals, but I had to go on a road trip for several days and then had car trouble which delayed my return by several more days.

But I have now been able to strike all of the proof-like 39mm medals, uniface medals, and Stonehenge medals. Due to the revised reverse (shield) engraving, they struck up more easily than before, but for some reason the medals wanted to stick to the reverse die. So after every strike I had to pry them off by hand (very carefully - so as not to damage them in any way!).

So at this point what I have left to do is:

Striking the 39mm satin-finish medals.
Edge marking the 39mm silver medals.
Antiquing the 39mm and 50mm medals.
Printing and hand-signing of 628+ certificates.
Inserting medals and certificates into the "flip" holders.
Shipping.

I am going to work on nothing else this weekend so that I can finish everything.
I will need confirmation of the address where to ship them.
Since there is about 628 medals, a single package containing them all would be too heavy.
So there will have to be at least two separate packages.

Another option (and I realize that this is short notice), if any person(s) would be willing to come pick up the medals in person, I could give them a tour of the mint and conduct demonstrations, etc. If that is not an option at this time, then perhaps a KotCT meeting and tour at my mint could still be arranged for some date in the future.

PS:
There is one other issue that needs to be decided upon:

Since the Stonehenge die already indicates "ONE TROY OZ . 999 SILVER", it was not necessary to mark that on the edge of the Stonehenge medals. So the intent was to mint the Stonehenge medals with a reeded edge. However, since the two dies were never originally intended to go together, the geometry of the rims caused a somewhat jagged outer rim edge when using a reeded collar. Think of it as a wire rim with a reeded edge (which creates sort of a saw-tooth effect). So the couple that I struck with a reeded edge have already been melted and I struck the full order with a smooth edge because those came out better.

Also of note is that nowhere on the Stonehenge medals does it indicate "Knights of the Coin Table" or similar. Since the edge is smooth, I thought perhaps I could mark something to that effect on the edge. But unfortunately "KNIGHTS OF THE COIN TABLE" is 25 characters and my edge-marking press only holds 24 characters. So a possibility would be to mark the edges of the Stonehenge medals with "KNIGHT OF THE COIN TABLE" .

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 08:13:42 AM
How about, "KOTCT 2007-2017 10 YEARS"

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 10:30:45 AM
How about, "KOTCT 2007-2017 10 YEARS"

That is certainly possible, although the banner above the Knight on the obverse already states "10th Anniversary".

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 11:59:30 AM
Hi Daniel,

Maybe something like "CASTLE KOTCT 2017" (without quotes of course)

Their is a lot of reference to the group and site as this and I don't recall it ever being used on a medallion before.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 12:06:00 PM
Hi Daniel,

Maybe something like "CASTLE KOTCT 2017" (without quotes of course)

Their is a lot of reference to the group and site as this and I don't recall it ever being used on a medallion before.


I like it!

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 12:09:58 PM
Me too !

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 01:49:08 PM
I would prefer "CASTLE KOTCT", since the obverse already states 2017. (I agree! - TKOâ„¢)

Daniel, I have all the funds, and addresses to ship everything to the individual members, and I will email  you my shipping address.  I would love to come out to see the mint sometime (with as many members as possible), unfortunately it's just not feasible for me to head to Colorado this month.  Thank you for the offer of a tour, hopefully some of us can take you up on that offer sometime. 

Thank you for the progress update, I'm really excited to see the final product.  Would it be too much to ask for some sneak preview in process pictures posted to this thread?

 
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Offline D. Carr

Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 06:50:25 PM

Thank you for the progress update, I'm really excited to see the final product.  Would it be too much to ask for some sneak preview in process pictures posted to this thread?



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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 02, 2018, 07:26:50 PM
Thanks for the picture.  They look awesome :)

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 03, 2018, 01:33:39 AM
Can't wait to see the Antiqued Version. I don't think my heart can take it... :P

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 04, 2018, 06:40:51 AM
Looking pretty good... will be worth the wait as is usually the case!!!  Wish I could make it to Colorado to pick them up and for the tour!!!

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 04, 2018, 11:15:00 AM
I am really looking forward to receiving my order of medals, especially the bimetallic.  These look very cool.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 09, 2018, 01:01:11 AM

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 10, 2018, 01:02:01 AM
Will not be long now,before they get shipped. They are nice and like many,wished I ordered more. Well, it won't be long before we are thinking about the 2018 medals.. :)

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 12, 2018, 04:37:59 PM
Hi Jim,


Do we have an updated final order sheet? Comparing the one I found and Daniel's website with mintage figures, it looks like there are more minted than requested?  I am sure I am not looking at the latest order sheet.


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 12, 2018, 05:46:47 PM
Here is the most updated order list, along with the list of the actual number of medals that were ordered.  The intention was to have one extra of each medal ordered just in case someones order is lost in shipping.  There will be 2 extra on 3 of them because of late order changes, and the 2 extra stonehenge are already spoken for (if there are no shipping problems) by someone who just barely missed the last minute orders.  Daniel gave us a great deal on 100 of the clad overstrikes, so quite a few of those will be available, and I bought 8 more 2007 silver eagles than we needed so they were all struck.  The numbers in red are changes to the first "final" numbers.

Excluding the clad Ike strikes, there will be 21 extra medals if there are no shipping problems.  Depending on how much the shipping costs are to all the individual knights, these will either be sold to fund the treasury, or we can have some giveaway contests here at the castle.  It will probably be a combination of both. 

Anything above the numbers that are on the final order sheet attached below are medals that Daniel has stamped for himself.  Any that he makes for himself are not included in our order numbers.

Hopefully it all makes sense, my head has been spinning for quite a while trying to keep track of all of these medals.

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 12, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
Here is a production update:

All the medals have been struck and edge-marked. I am currently working on the antiquing of the 39mm silver and 50mm silver. The medals for that have also been struck and edge-marked - now comes the work of applying the antique finish by hand. After that the only thing left is making the certificates and packaging.

I had previously produced a couple 50mm medals with a brass center and copper ring. I made those test strikes because I wanted to see how they would come out and I had some spare components (39mm brass blank centers and 50mm copper blank rings). After I posted a picture of some 50mm medals (including the two brass/copper), there apparently was some interest in them.

Rather than scrap those two brass/copper medals, as well as some other components and failed/defective strikes that I had, I decided that I would try to make one 50mm brass/copper medal to give to each Knight. Due to the hardness of the metal and the large diameter, they were quite difficult to strike. It didn't help matters that the thickness of the brass and copper components varied. Sometimes the center would be fully struck and the outer ring would lack much of the detail, or the other way around. As with the other 50mm medals, I tried additional broad-striking to attain full detail. I decided that I would have to blowtorch (anneal) them between strikes. Both metals (brass and copper) will discolor when heated. A few of the medals I cleaned after the blowtorching but before the final broad-striking. Since I like to experiment, I also decided to see what would happen if I broad-struck a medal that was still discolored from the blow-torching. The results were interesting. The annealing did allow full strikes to be produced. A few of them are bright with the semi-proof-like finish. The rest have all sorts of different appearances from rather dark to somewhat hazy with slightly pastel color. Some also have minting defects such as an off-center inner circle or a small straight clip on the outer copper ring.

So I am going to ship these (37 ?) medals with the rest of the order (except that I will hold onto the two that I will pass along in person to Usarok and Sir Jackpot with the rest of their orders).
Since these medals very widely in appearance (I would say that none of them are unattractive), I suggest that the "bonus" medal for each Knight be picked at random. What you get is what you get. The two I held back for Usarok and Sir Jackpot were already selected at random.


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 12, 2018, 08:25:51 PM
Daniel, that was really generous and VERY awesome of you!!!


Jim, thanks for the explanation. Makes perfect sense!

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 12, 2018, 09:13:25 PM
Wow, thank you for your generosity Daniel, I can't wait to see the experiments.  I will pull them at random and add one to each order.  Thank you for the update.  ;D

 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 12, 2018, 09:31:06 PM
Thank you very much Daniel. :)
you are indeed very generous.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 12, 2018, 11:14:46 PM
"Good things come to those who wait." Thank you Daniel  8) and everyone who made the final design of this very special 10th Anniversary Medal possible !

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 13, 2018, 08:04:51 AM
To Jim and all that made this happen, THANK YOU !! You put in lots of hours that we don't even know about. Then you had to deal with the PayPal fiasco plus orders changing from time to time. Thanks again for the hard work.

Thank you Dan for the Special Piece, can't wait to see them in hand.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 14, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
There are many who truly appreciate the hard work in putting this Anniversary Medal project in to motion...and you can count me among them! ;)

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 17, 2018, 09:25:03 AM
So I know I missed the original purchase opportunity and if there are any extra coins that may come up for sale I would like to put my name on that list to buy if there is any list to be had.  Thank you.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 17, 2018, 01:07:03 PM
So I know I missed the original purchase opportunity and if there are any extra coins that may come up for sale I would like to put my name on that list to buy if there is any list to be had.  Thank you.

You can have one of the extra silver proof medals that I bought at the same price we all paid, and there will be a 2007 Silver eagle set aside for you if you want one of the extra 8.  There will also be Clad Ike overstrikes available.   The rest will have to wait until all of the orders are shipped and recieved.  PM me if you are interested in the Proof silver, 2007 Silver eagle overstrike, and/or a clad ike overstrike.

 


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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 18, 2018, 06:48:23 AM
This is for all you "Knights" that have been here since 2007...:)
 
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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 19, 2018, 02:53:52 PM

You just need to double click on it.

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Re: 2017 KOTCT 10th Anniversary Medals
March 20, 2018, 06:28:38 AM
Being out of the loop for a while I am still catching up and would like to know how many medallions have the "Stonehenge" reverse? I am very impressed with design and if I am not getting one I do hope someone out there will have one for sale. Appreciate an answer to my question and hopefully and opportunity to purchase one from one of you Knights or Knightesses!

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