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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
March 23, 2010, 03:54:07 AM
Those pesky greeks
Why can't they leave me alone ?
Now I have gone and done it ; told them no help for those that can help themselves



She wondering how many other EU countries  are  greeks hiding in the waves.  "Vee need to audit everyvone of these skinny-dipping bastards"  :o

As best as I can remember it (ten years ago) this is a story Victor Niederhoffer recites in his book:

There once was a Rabbi whose parishioners paid tribute to him every year by pouring a bottle of wine into a well. One year in which the economy was very bad a parishioner did not have the money to buy  wine. He did not want the others to know that he was broke so he thought he would just take an empty wine bottle fill it with water and pour it in the well along with the others. After all with hundreds of other parishioners pouring in real wine who would know the difference? So on the day that parishioners poured their tribute  into the well, he poured in a bottle of water.

That night the Rabbi went out to the well to draw some wine for himself but when  the bucket came up all it had in it was pure water.

 


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March 23, 2010, 04:39:48 AM
Those pesky greeks
Why can't they leave me alone ?
Now I have gone and done it ; told them no help for those that can help themselves



She wondering how many other EU countries  are  greeks hiding in the waves.  "Vee need to audit everyvone of these skinny-dipping bastards"  :o

As best as I can remember it (ten years ago) this is a story Victor Niederhoffer recites in his book:

There once was a Rabbi whose parishioners paid tribute to him every year by pouring a bottle of wine into a well. One year in which the economy was very bad a parishioner did not have the money to buy  wine. He did not want the others to know that he was broke so he thought he would just take an empty wine bottle fill it with water and pour it in the well along with the others. After all with hundreds of other parishioners pouring in real wine who would know the difference? So on the day that parishioners poured their tribute  into the well, he poured in a bottle of water.

That night the Rabbi went out to the well to draw some wine for himself but when  the bucket came up all it had in it was pure water.

I read Spain at least is doing like the Brits
Issuing bonds in dollars  :D
If they are lucky they got a low renting rate and can pay back with devalued dollars  ::)

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
March 23, 2010, 05:11:04 AM
I am not a paid writer of investment advice so I can change my mind
as much as I want
Two scenarios possible
1) the 107 days high is in
2) the cycle is extending and the high will be in circa 14 calendar days based on a
35 days subsubcycle and the chart made with 17.3.3
subcycles are often 50 or 35 days centered

Conclusion I am waiting to see whether the triangle resolves to the upside and what
slow stochs 17.3.3 does

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March 23, 2010, 10:09:25 AM
The endgame is nearer then I thought

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March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The 10-year U.S. swap spread turned negative for the first time on record amid rising demand for higher-yielding assets such as corporate and emerging market securities. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aAeUwm_3hz4Y&pos=2

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March 24, 2010, 01:33:50 AM
Today we could see a resolution of the 1100 $ level ( downwards or not )

France and Germany agreed that Greece can go begging from the IMF  8)

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March 24, 2010, 02:55:41 AM
IMO, Fear will drive up metals more than anything else in the U.S. I think The 4th Turning has begun:  socialist-krapitalist  half breed zombies vs the Individual.


 


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March 24, 2010, 03:51:39 AM
IMO, Fear will drive up metals more than anything else in the U.S. I think The 4th Turning has begun:  socialist-krapitalist  half breed zombies vs the Individual.

Belgian TV reported a remarkable court case
Somebody living in the poor part of Wallonia in an ex steel town Charleroi
Was ordered before court since he refused to pay back 10 000 euro subsidies
for having insulated his house and not lived in it for the full 7 contractual years
but only 4 years
His defense was that he had been carjacked and home jacked several times
and that he and his family had enough of the part of the country .
The judge pronounced the defense null and void and said that anybody
having and driving a jaguar in that part of the country was crying out to be
carjacked or homejacked and that flounting his riches was seeking for trouble

Specialists say that supermarkets with multi thousand euro TV's and apparel better
watch out because they are provoking the not haves in "liberating" all that equipment

The capitalist in the meantime goes to higher court because he refuses to pay back
the 10 000 euro  :D

In a sloppier part of Brussels called Anderlecht a highschool moved out because they were fed up with being molested by legal or illigal aliens and since the jails are full
the victimizers were released the next day .A zero tolerance has cleared up the neighborhood but the schoolkids rightly refuse to return . A temp controled garbage heap
stays a garbage heap

SOOOO many people come and ask asylum in Belgium and the procedure is sooo long
that all camps and army sites are allready refugee camps filled to overflowing
The Belgian government is trying to refuse renting thousands of hotelrooms to put the people that request "sanctuary"

In unrelated news a drug courier from Columbia was found dead in a banana boat
in the Antwerp harbour
because the stupid jerk did not know they transport under nitrogene ;D
Instant justice when the captain said ; boys the boat is closed turn on the nitrogene


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March 24, 2010, 06:12:52 AM
April lows looking to be on time. Would feel better if $1060 gets re-checked, doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility. A break down is unwanted. Sold some CGC on the open for a few dollars more than I paid for it to have more cash at the ready.

So far miners are not being beat up on as a whole group which is a good thing. I've waited years, a few more months won't hurt as long as confidence in all things paper continues to tank. Mussolini....er, I mean our current fearless leader is out campaigning to highlight his health care victory to show how much government can interfere with your life and charge you for it in the process.

 


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March 24, 2010, 10:05:27 AM
Hahaha
The Brits want to know why Gordon Brown sold their gold at the bottom
Do they really expect him to say the truth ? His best defense is just to say
he was stupid I think

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/7511589/Explain-why-you-sold-Britains-gold-Gordon-Brown-told.html

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March 24, 2010, 10:07:34 AM
April lows looking to be on time. Would feel better if $1060 gets re-checked, doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility. A break down is unwanted. Sold some CGC on the open for a few dollars more than I paid for it to have more cash at the ready.

So far miners are not being beat up on as a whole group which is a good thing. I've waited years, a few more months won't hurt as long as confidence in all things paper continues to tank. Mussolini....er, I mean our current fearless leader is out campaigning to highlight his health care victory to show how much government can interfere with your life and charge you for it in the process.

Yes it looks more and more the 107 days cycle was in early and we are heading straight for the bottom of the second 107 days cycle
I sold some more AU this morning and believe it or not the only share on which I did NOT loose money today  is Drooy  ::)

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March 24, 2010, 11:57:40 AM
Looks like the whole sector takes a beating for 2 or 3 weeks now. It just pretending and reporting inflation and deflation causes and effects. Hyper-inflation possibilities are being ignored except by a few. If deflation was allowed to take its course chaos would ensue worldwide. Governments don't have the stomach for that and hyper-inflation is the only answer.

US government employees exempted themselves from the new health care laws. They are free to continue opting for a myriad of medical plans leaving the little people to foot the bill.

 


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March 24, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Looking at possible buy for more physical in the next two weeks.

 


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March 24, 2010, 10:27:41 PM
I herewith concede the subcycle top was 3.3.10 and the subcycle was 90 days were I expected
95 days based on the december surprise and 107 days based on the 8 previous years

If I stick with 95 days we are now allready in day 23 of 95 for a sunday 6 th subhigh ( matematically since my chart tradeson sunday as well ) So the gold low is close and perhaps a bit later for miners

That means that with perfect hindsight the slow stoch setting had to be 45.3.3
Which gives a nice chart as attached

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March 24, 2010, 10:30:34 PM
This is the accompaning HUI chart
( South African mines are dancing to a different beat because the caddollar went up 15% against the euro)

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March 24, 2010, 10:37:00 PM
The Greeks will have to beg money from the IMF
She did it
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPMF9TV_BRzw&pos=3


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March 24, 2010, 11:17:54 PM
Just sold a slice of HMY
Getting me a warchest for the coming lows in Canadians
South Africans are peaking together with the dollars

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March 25, 2010, 01:19:28 AM
Don't you have politicians who can make your investments for you? Here's one our success stories. I'm sure TARpit and AbominationCare will yield the same sterling results.

"Amtrak was sold to the public in ’71 as an investment opportunity. With a monopoly on rail traffic between America’s most populous cities…throughout the biggest economic boom in history…you’d think Amtrak couldn’t help but make money. It was supposed to turn a profit in 1974. It didn’t. Nor did it make a profit in 1975…or 1976…or 1977…1978…1979…1980…etc… All the way up to today. It never made a profit. It just lowered service levels and kept chugging along. And now the feds are still pumping more than $2 billion per year into the zombie railroad.

All Aboard!"--Bill Bonner
http://dailyreckoning.com/economic-zombies-shuffle-toward-bankruptcy/

 


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March 25, 2010, 01:49:07 AM
Don't you have politicians who can make your investments for you? Here's one our success stories. I'm sure TARpit and AbominationCare will yield the same sterling results.

"Amtrak was sold to the public in ’71 as an investment opportunity. With a monopoly on rail traffic between America’s most populous cities…throughout the biggest economic boom in history…you’d think Amtrak couldn’t help but make money. It was supposed to turn a profit in 1974. It didn’t. Nor did it make a profit in 1975…or 1976…or 1977…1978…1979…1980…etc… All the way up to today. It never made a profit. It just lowered service levels and kept chugging along. And now the feds are still pumping more than $2 billion per year into the zombie railroad.

All Aboard!"--Bill Bonner
http://dailyreckoning.com/economic-zombies-shuffle-toward-bankruptcy/

I am allready full of apprehension and shivering with hate
Our government is going to sell the Postal Service to private enterprise
It is allready an expensive disaster
No saturday service since so long I cannot remember ; no twice a day service same timespan
Registered mail miraculously only (95% of the time) comes on tuesdays and they asked me like 35$ to ship a crucifix to the US and I had to make my own harboard box since
otherwise I would be over the limit for the length and paying like 55$ for a 15$ crucifix

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March 25, 2010, 05:23:16 AM
Our six pm flash news showed american websites calling for throwing stones through the windows of everyone who voted for the Bo care bill
Lucky for the FBI guantanamo should be nearly empty by now so they can lodge
people calling for public insurgence and disobeyance

Greece is squeeling like the roasted porkers they like because they have to pay double
the intrest rate of Germany on their loans .Like 6.5%
There used to be a time I had to pay 21% personally and nobody heard me squeeling
because they thought that was a fair intrest rate at the time

Portugal is next since one of those bloody useless rating companies gave them a downgrade to AA-

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March 25, 2010, 05:24:50 AM
I herewith concede the subcycle top was 3.3.10 and the subcycle was 90 days were I expected
95 days based on the december surprise and 107 days based on the 8 previous years

If I stick with 95 days we are now allready in day 23 of 95 for a sunday 6 th subhigh ( matematically since my chart tradeson sunday as well ) So the gold low is close and perhaps a bit later for miners

That means that with perfect hindsight the slow stoch setting had to be 45.3.3
Which gives a nice chart as attached

This chart is based on trading/price 7 days a week?

Yeah, spot and miners not tracking together as a whole and miners no longer overreacting to downward movements in spot, at least not lately.

TNX (interest on ten year note) gapping up. Higher interest rates will kill what's left of the economy, add in higher taxes and fees then.....

 


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March 25, 2010, 05:28:22 AM
The rating agencies don't downgrade until after the derivatives desk reads the memo and places bets.

 


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March 25, 2010, 05:32:26 AM
I herewith concede the subcycle top was 3.3.10 and the subcycle was 90 days were I expected
95 days based on the december surprise and 107 days based on the 8 previous years

If I stick with 95 days we are now allready in day 23 of 95 for a sunday 6 th subhigh ( matematically since my chart tradeson sunday as well ) So the gold low is close and perhaps a bit later for miners

That means that with perfect hindsight the slow stoch setting had to be 45.3.3
Which gives a nice chart as attached

This chart is based on trading/price 7 days a week?

Yeah, spot and miners not tracking together as a whole and miners no longer overreacting to downward movements in spot, at least not lately.

TNX (interest on ten year note) gapping up. Higher interest rates will kill what's left of the economy, add in higher taxes and fees then.....

The gold chart comes from a german server and has 7 days a week trading
The Hui chart of course only 5 days trading
My 95 days nominal cycle is based on 7 days a week for HUI take 22 days a month

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March 25, 2010, 05:37:34 AM
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The post office lost $3.8 billion last year and is facing projected losses of as much as $7 billion this year. Other proposals for cutting losses include changes in the financing of retiree health care and closing some mail handling centers and post offices.
Postal Service Moves Toward Five-Day Delivery
The chief postal guy just got like a half million dollar bonus for a stupendous job he did last year I'm sure he'll get a million this year for offering less services for higher costs.

 


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March 25, 2010, 05:44:44 AM
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The post office lost $3.8 billion last year and is facing projected losses of as much as $7 billion this year. Other proposals for cutting losses include changes in the financing of retiree health care and closing some mail handling centers and post offices.
Postal Service Moves Toward Five-Day Delivery
The chief postal guy just got like a half million dollar bonus for a stupendous job he did last year I'm sure he'll get a million this year for offering less services for higher costs.

We had like 95% next day delivery in the old days
Then the government paid for a puntuality pact and we dropped to 65% delivery next day
It can take a full week nowadays to get a lettre from Antwerp 20 kilometers away to Mechelen
Last year they closed all secondary postoffices only keeping a main postoffice and the trainstation post office . They sought and found a few newspaper stores that will accept lettres and sell postage stamps .
Nowadays I have to pay 1.60 euro to park my car and take a number and wait 15 minutes to get a blank registered lettre form and custom declaration form
And I live in a 250 000 people comunity  ???

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March 25, 2010, 05:45:33 AM
Founding fathers needed to include a clause in the Constitution whereas it was deemed that shooting politicians and bankers would result in only being charged as a misdemeanor.

 


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March 25, 2010, 05:48:26 AM
Founding fathers needed to include a clause in the Constitution whereas it was deemed that shooting politicians and bankers would result in only being charged as a misdemeanor.

Nope the clause should be If you shoot one you are obliged to shoot another of the other party

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March 25, 2010, 05:49:09 AM
Founding fathers needed to include a clause in the Constitution whereas it was deemed that shooting politicians and bankers would result in only being charged as a misdemeanor.

Double post

Ah I am downloading at 500 kb/sec and then I get double posts from every forum

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March 25, 2010, 09:01:11 PM
On a german forum they posted the Perth mint is going to make a mini coin
One thousand kilogram with a tolerance of 25 kilogram plus or minus  ::) :o :-X
Have they gone completely of their rockers ?
How are you going to store such a coin ? or is it a stunt ?

These should be the specifications of the new coin
I can see one advantage ; you can put the side you like best upwards
and AU58 would be if not too may people walked over the coin looking
at it  ;D

http://www.goldseiten-forum.de/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=47025&h=49075284f8d0b47e920b75f135f662dfd2dc37c7

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March 25, 2010, 09:03:28 PM
Ah politicians ; first he lost the local elections in a big way and then he had to bow for Merkel and still Sarkozy is forced to smile  8)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aDt.m4619dzU&pos=9


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March 26, 2010, 12:24:27 AM
I cannot be bothered with 12 million $
If anybody is willing to do the paperwork I will take 10% finders fee  :D

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I am contacting you concerning a deceased customer Mr. Irshad Ahmad, a Pakistani arms dealer in
Afghanistan who placed huge investment under our banks management.

He invested 27.4 million United States dollars in an investment banking portfolio of my bank
(Shanghai Pudong Development Bank) in March 2003. By the end of March, 2008, the fund was worth
31,500,000 million United States dollars at 0.35% fixed interest rate and profit from investment portfolios
based on professional advice for low market risk investments. Since this time, the bank has sent several
notices to Mr. Irshad Ahmad as customer follow up and possible investment update since he is a high profile
customer with no response. It was after thorough investigation that I got information that Irshad Ahmad and
his family had been killed during one of NATO onslaughts in Afghanistan.

Due to the sensitive nature of Ahmad business, he never wanted to live any traces to his private account and
did not nominate any next of kin to his investments and funds and also left his WILL in our care.
Mr. Irshad Ahmad died with no known relative to claim his funds and investments. This means that his fund will
be claimed by the bank and subsequently by the Chinese government if no one come to claim it.
Now, there is a total sum of 31,500,000 million United States dollars unclaimed fund in my bank that I want you
to stand as the next of kin for; and have planned out a water tight safe system for you to claim and provide you
with all necessary information for easy transfer of the fund to you without any hitch. On completion of this project,
your share will be 40% of the 31,500,000 million United States dollars. I count on your maturity and confidence
not to betray me because I am a family man and have a reputable career to protect.
I await your response.

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March 26, 2010, 02:32:22 AM
Maybe the gubment can do that.   GulagCare is going to need funding much sooner than expected since the zombies are already stumbling into clinics.


                          

 


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March 26, 2010, 05:22:24 AM
Germany has clearly shown we have a ECB ( european central bank) and that is the german bundesbank :D

Ok problem contained , up to Portugal now  ???

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March 26, 2010, 05:26:27 AM
In view of the HUI chart I bought one third of a position in NGD for 4.30 CAD

I guess option closing is over since they let gold go above 1100 $ again  8)

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March 26, 2010, 08:17:21 AM
I have turned down millions just in the last couple of weeks. I am just like Old Dan as all the legalities would wear me down to nothing. And seeing how I have managed to be someone's long lost heir, about ever 7 days or so and seem to be on the world's most "honest and trusted" list that everyone with money to give away or sneak out of a foreign nation knows they can count on me. I am just overwhelmed with honor but I was brought up to believe one must work for their wealth and that is how I managed to get on the world's "most honest and trusted" list in the first place!  Doing something on the shady side might make me look like a criminal, or even worse, a POLITICIAN so I have to pass the offers up! ;D

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March 26, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
I did some light buying to today added back to NG NGD Trying a little MGH. Still have to get through the end of this month and the first couple of weeks in April, I think, so still have some cash on hand.

Had the grocery store clerk (single mother of two young girls) ask about a check sent to her to cash and keep a portion and wire the balance back. Wanted to know what to do. I said throw it away and never consider such an offer again, the check will bounce. She wanted to know how some one could cheat another person like that. I said, " Because they want your money?" I guess in grocery-store-land the sun always shines.

"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often attributed to P.T. Barnum.

 


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March 27, 2010, 12:35:07 AM
I did some light buying to today added back to NG NGD Trying a little MGH. Still have to get through the end of this month and the first couple of weeks in April, I think, so still have some cash on hand.

I still got South Africans to sell and emergency cash so I should be allright .

Charts ; I can only make a finished week chart on sunday because the charting service does 7 days a week on gold ; but we look very close to a bottom but like Bearvest allways says
it can be a double bottom .

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March 27, 2010, 12:35:53 AM
"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often attributed to P.T. Barnum.
After the newspapers reported Barnum's version of the Cardiff giant story, David Hannum was quoted by the same newspaper as saying, "There's a sucker born every minute" in reference to spectators paying to see Barnum's fake giant.
Over time, the quotation has been misattributed to P.T. Barnum himself.

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Every morning an idiot wakes up

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March 27, 2010, 03:16:32 AM

The germans have a proverb
Every morning an idiot wakes up
The German's also have one that says......"A country can be judged by the quality of its proverbs".
:D ::) :P

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March 27, 2010, 03:19:48 AM

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March 27, 2010, 03:51:18 AM
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 The strange, and stranger, world of gold digging

Unleashing the Panzers, Shermans and Dabbābas: how gold miners deploy six tactics to raise cash, excluding the mining of gold.
Author: Barry Sergeant  



http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page67?oid=101521&sn=Detail&pid=1

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March 27, 2010, 04:13:29 AM
All right PYW, you don't have all the clowns. Here is one of ours:


I love that inverse double bottom eroneously called a double top  ;D

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March 27, 2010, 11:38:20 PM
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office."..............Aesop among many others.

Do you really think you appoint anybody?
I have voted all my life for people that still do not stand a chance even if they have like
22% of the votes . The others just make a coalition around them and call it a sanatery barrier
because god forbid those saying Flanders for the flemish should gain power .

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March 28, 2010, 04:44:56 AM
Appointments are nothing more than you scratch my back and I will scratch yours! On the election level I think local government or city government "might" be on the up and up but NO ONE will ever convince me they know within a matter of hours who wins the national elections and, even if they are correct in their count, we still did NOT get to elect those people. We got the rich folks that were thrown in the ring by those in power and told to pick one. Elections are a figment of our imagination and to appease folks who really do think they are free? We are all going to find out how free just as soon as Obamacare kicks in. The Feds are a smart bunch as they are going to MAKE the states raise all their taxes, as its been dumped off on them! Now instead of hating the feds we can hate our state governments? Guess we can NEVER forget who actually owns the keys to the kingdom can we?

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March 28, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
Again yesterday I had a thought and today Godmode prints it
We used to laugh Seven and I because we reached the same conclusion
right or wrong a day or two before godmode  :D
http://www.godmode-trader.de/nachricht/GOLD-Bist-du-auch-bullisch-Gold,a2119873.html


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March 29, 2010, 02:54:24 AM
Did anyone ever hear the (probably now banned) story in High School about a  science teacher somewhere who while lecturing on the importance of observation in the lab was  assaulted  by a banana wielding freak who stabs him to death with the banana?

And then when they interview the students as to what they saw, the science teacher was stabbed to death by anything ranging from samurai sword to a thumb tack. But never a banana. Because that doesn't make sense. I believe the shrinks call it cognitive dissonance. And/or  a science teacher with theater envy.  ;D

This is exactly what we have with BO. All of his life has been about socialism and social justice so it won't  make any sense when I claim that there is not  a pinch of  shit worth of difference between him and George Bush. But that's my claim and I'm sticking to it.

We're still in Iraq, and Afghanistan. Every week he goes out and does some kind of sock puppet attack on banks or insurance companies but they still get their bail outs and their absurd bonuses. Oh and I believe he and his wife did rather well trading in real estate didn't they? Socialists trading in real estate? That really is "progressive!"  

Obama care? Reining in obscene profits of the insurance industry, doctors and drug makers. Don't hold your breath. Obama care is a back door bail out for the insurance cockroaches, and a new profit center for doctors and drug makers. Oh, but it will be a total gulag for "The People." That part of the socialism they got right.

Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.  

                             Appeasement you can believe in.

 


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March 29, 2010, 03:06:40 AM
I think he and Sarkozy are not going to be re elected in two years
So they can commiserate together
What did we do wrong ? not to be loved ?

Some investigative journalist found out our King also belongs to the club
of Billionaires allthough they claimed forever he had only one or two
dozen millions .

Up to today 42 banks died ; but quietly . Nobody reports the figures anymore

Oh and yesterday the contract between Ford and the Chinese Geely was signed
so the Chinese now own a 5000 men Volvo factory in Ghent Belgium
with our without the real estate it sits on ; I don't know because in Antwerp harbor
they are mostly 99 year leases from the city .

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March 29, 2010, 04:45:35 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.


 


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March 29, 2010, 05:42:42 AM
I think (hope) the dollar has had it
Dollar down ; gold up in dollars
Weekly closing chart with weekly RSI14 added


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March 30, 2010, 02:39:24 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.



I played it all my life. "I'm glad" I won't  believe  a single utterence about the wonders of the stock market, or the wonders of "market"  grading  or political Holy Fathers and  their  "brave new worlds."  :D

Or that ducking under a wooden desk in the first grade was going to save me from an atom bomb.  A gubment strategy so amazing only the Dept of Homeboy's Job Security could thunk of  recycling it as putting duct tape on your windows in the event that terrorists  attack.




 


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March 30, 2010, 03:19:16 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.



I played it all my life. "I'm glad" I won't  believe  a single utterence about the wonders of stock market, "market"  grading  and political their  "brave new worlds."  :D

Or that ducking under a wooden desk in the first grade was going to save me from a atom bomb. A strategy so amazing only the Dept of Homeboy's Job Security would recycle it as duct tape your windows in the event that terrorists launch a nerve gas attack.  

Very annoying Firefox 6.302 tries to spell check what I write in Flemish and does reactivate each time after I turned it off . So I had to install Americana(whatever that may be since it refused americanese
Ducking and covering your eyes was even taught to us in the army . And I was given two concentrick cardboard circle wheels to determine how many more minutes my soldiers
could coherently fight given the rad level
But hé installing that americanese made me learn I can get all the languages in the world installed and blow up my hard disk doing so
   

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March 30, 2010, 03:23:43 AM
Today government sources in belgium conceded that inflations jumped 0.4% in one month
to 1.7% wow ; I would have estimated it at 10% since I am paying 20% more on heating gas and electricity and water and I guess like 10% more on food etc

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March 30, 2010, 03:56:00 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.



I played it all my life. "I'm glad" I won't  believe  a single utterence about the wonders of stock market, "market"  grading  and political their  "brave new worlds."  :D

Or that ducking under a wooden desk in the first grade was going to save me from a atom bomb. A strategy so amazing only the Dept of Homeboy's Job Security would recycle it as duct tape your windows in the event that terrorists launch a nerve gas attack.  

Very annoying Firefox 6.302 tries to spell check what I write in Flemish and does reactivate each time after I turned it off . So I had to install Americana(whatever that may be since it refused americanese
Ducking and covering your eyes was even taught to us in the army . And I was given two concentrick cardboard circle wheels to determine how many more minutes my soldiers
could coherently fight given the rad level
But hé installing that americanese made me learn I can get all the languages in the world installed and blow up my hard disk doing so
  

I found it very exciting in the North Atlantic. Can you tell by the photo?  :D Sorry, can't get it to hotlink for some reason.


A "sea story" I once heard was  that in the 60's the Navy  sent a Fast Frigate out to launch a ASROC (Anti Submarine Rocket) with a nuclear dept charge on it.  They wanted to see if it  would survive the shock wave.  Supposedly it did but it had so many cracks in the hull they just scraped it. I don't know how true it is, most sea stories are just that.   ;D

 


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March 30, 2010, 04:35:48 AM
Right click on the photo and you get a pop up window with info etc select info then in the next window you got location etc
Put your cursor before the first h of http at location and keep the mouse button down moving the cursor right all the way out of the window till the very end of the link because the link is soooo long . Now everything should be highlighted = selected
copy and paste between img brackets



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March 30, 2010, 06:06:54 AM
I couldn't get the img link to work either when I was trying to post a Pollyanna pic link.

When your word check red lines just right click and tell it to add it to your dictionary.

US dollar traveling in the upper part of the channel means it should remain strong for the time being or at least until California begins another budget-gap-fix in April and sends the shortfall invoice to Washington D C.

  My Dad started out as a radio man aboard ship (could pick Morse code out of the air even some encoded and type over hundred words a minute on a manual typewriter) then retired as a naval aviator.
  He told me once where he was test piloting the forerunner to auto-pilots, of course in its crude form, where he would flip a switch on and a solenoid/servo motor would allow hydraulic control of flaps, rudder, etc. for a so many degree bank turn or whatever switch off the plane arrives back to straight and level except one time a solenoid stayed open while the rest functioned properly sending him into a flat spin. He said by the time he recovered (I remember him going through the motions of trying to fight centrifugal force with two hands on the stick to get the plane to dive out of the spin) he could count the blades of grass on the ground.
  So happens he had a photographer in the backseat at the time but couldn't raise a response from him because he had passed out with the G forces. Photographer back on the ground swore he would never fly again.

 


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March 30, 2010, 06:19:22 AM
Mozilla Firefox installed in Flemish and I have to add all libraries like French and German etc . I do not seem to be able to turn it off completely
It just red lined because I typed French with a small f and it refused redlined
in one word  ???

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March 30, 2010, 07:17:23 AM
Right click on the photo and you get a pop up window with info etc select info then in the next window you got location etc
Put your cursor before the first h of http at location and keep the mouse button down moving the cursor right all the way out of the window till the very end of the link because the link is soooo long . Now everything should be highlighted = selected
copy and paste between img brackets




Yes your right again. I hadn't hot linked something for at least a week and have to re-train.  :o

 


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March 30, 2010, 07:38:37 AM
I just get bigger hard drives since I store a lot. Last one was Western Digital  650gig 'green' which means it sleeps most of the time (doesn't spin) until you make a request of something off it and it wakes up a little slow until it is up and running like any normal drive actually quite quick with large on board cache. Should have bought the 2 terabyte drive since the gig-to-price ratio is well worth it. Have 1.5 terabyte as it is with 3 drives in use.

 


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March 30, 2010, 08:58:26 AM
I just get bigger hard drives since I store a lot. Last one was Western Digital  650gig 'green' which means it sleeps most of the time (doesn't spin) until you make a request of something off it and it wakes up a little slow until it is up and running like any normal drive actually quite quick with large on board cache. Should have bought the 2 terabyte drive since the gig-to-price ratio is well worth it. Have 1.5 terabyte as it is with 3 drives in use.

I got a 70 giga download limit per month so I got now 2 one tera byte drives from Toshiba
500 giga from omega and 250 giga from Philips and 150 giga internal on my portable desktop replacing computer .
My previous system had 40 giga all together  ::)

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March 31, 2010, 08:18:40 PM
Status in three time frames

Monthly gold candles
candle 5 of 11 ( or 10 ) started
Picture consistent with a turn at midpoint without left or right shift indicated sofar
Neutral

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March 31, 2010, 08:41:10 PM
Monthly HUI
Oversold


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March 31, 2010, 08:44:27 PM
Gold weekly
Neutral in the 90-105 day cycle

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March 31, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
Hui weekly neutral in the 90-107 day cycle

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March 31, 2010, 08:51:07 PM
Gold daily based on 90 days

Double stoch bottom

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March 31, 2010, 08:56:56 PM
HUI daily based on 90 days
Bottom in or close


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March 31, 2010, 09:01:37 PM
Gold daily 30 days
The 90-105 day cycle is divided in three subcycles that are often 35 or 50 days nominal  alternating
This chart based on a first cycle of circa 30 days shows we are shooting up in this timeframe

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March 31, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
HUI daily 30 days

A tradable hight should be coming

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April 01, 2010, 02:19:42 AM
Sold another slice of AU at 28.45 euro and will keep the half position which is now at
11.33 euro pro share  ;D

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April 01, 2010, 03:00:05 AM
Sold another slice of Harmony 7.10 euro
Keep half position at 6.26 euro
This makes a nice cash position to be used for trading

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April 01, 2010, 05:23:18 PM
I guess my one o'clock post got lost in hyper-space. Said RGLD started leading since yesterday and NG NGD and a few others closed nearer their highs so might run for a few days on this move except a lot of them gaped on open which usually means a revisit of those gaps.  Manipulators must plan it that way.

 


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April 01, 2010, 08:57:44 PM
I guess my one o'clock post got lost in hyper-space. Said RGLD started leading since yesterday and NG NGD and a few others closed nearer their highs so might run for a few days on this move except a lot of them gaped on open which usually means a revisit of those gaps.  Manipulators must plan it that way.

Do you have an idea why Minefinders has stopped moving allover the place and stopped moving mainly up ?

I have moving to a different tune and not moving much
Anglogold, Harmony, Drooy, Tanzanian
I have bottombuilders
Kinross , Yamana and chartwise they look identical so I guess one of the two has to go
I am only happy with
Great basin gold , Oceana,New gold

This tells me I need to get more dynamical since the last three were all three added the last few months . Any suggestions what to look at next ?

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April 02, 2010, 12:26:02 AM
Road Rage is becoming quite a sport here in the U.S.
http://www.foxnewsradio.com/2010/03/26/man-enraged-by-obama-bumper-sticker-rams-his-suv-into-car/

Yesterday BO gave his zombies the  "well actually" April Fool's joke, saying   without Health Care reform the United States would go bankrupt. Maybe his zombies could waddle up to the window and  look outside.   We already are bankrupted.

But the same federal government that took over Penn Central in 1970 and renamed it Amtrak and told everyone that it would be a "good investment" is going to do even better with an eleven trillion dollar industry? Excuse me if I'm skeptical but we're still waiting, 40 years, later for Amtrak to make money.
Government and "good investment?"  That's the oxymoron of the eon.

Helpful hint Mr. President: As even a 10 year old operating a lemon aid stand knows, you must produce something to make money.  Shoveling dirt back and forth in a field and propping up  retards does the opposite.

 


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I lost the link but the merican guberment took over a whorehouse and could not make money
That says it all doesn'it ?

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April 02, 2010, 02:12:17 AM
AIG?

I think I remember something about the state of Nevada taking over a brothel once and losing money. But why not? A state is just a mini-me of the fed as kalifornia constantly demonstrates.

I ask people to name something that the fed can do right. Anything big or small. And the only they can come up with is fielding an army. I agree that they can do that well or at least better than other countries but it's still the economy that supports the military.

 


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AIG?

I think I remember something about the state of Nevada taking over a brothel once and losing money. But why not? A state is just a mini-me of the fed as kalifornia constantly demonstrates.

I ask people to name something that the fed can do right. Anything big or small. And the only they can come up with is fielding an army. I agree that they can do that well or at least better than other countries but it's still the economy that supports the military.

And they have been pestering europe for more men for longer
Germany and France are still obliging . The Dutch puked and the government fell
The Belgians typically said ok because they are fighting again over mayors that refuse
to respect the flemish laws in a flemish town themselves being french speaking
( 3 of them and they make the news day after day )

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April 02, 2010, 03:14:53 AM
I love those German goldbugs that MUST sell gold because their girlfriend or woman NEEDS something asap . I bought a mex onza at melt  ;D
Not on ebay but on the forum Danke Schoen

Under a magnifying glass the left breast is completely articulated  :D
Fine work of engraving allthough the position seems somewhat precarious
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April 02, 2010, 06:01:05 AM
Don't worry, if she falls she has wings. Nice find.

This government is pretty good at warring esp. with this volunteer army. Our current commander in chief will reverse that also.

Whoever said government was about running a business and  making money? It's all about power and control with some money thrown in. Examples are endless.

Miners are like any other stock. You need good management and resources with expenses not to exceed profits near or long term. If you are just treading water lately then you are doing okay since the sector is constantly manipulated as if gold is useless. Again, only the producers or on the verge of producing show any signs of strength like NGD. You would be better off just to hold through for a few more months for a conformation of trend into autumn if confirmation fails then you can begin worrying. RGLD sits on piles of gold and silver, they don't even own a shovel. NG doesn't produce but keeps adding reserves because they keep drilling exploratory holes and finding more fruitful earth albeit some finds 50% shared. Most miners own lots of shovels and keep drilling but come up dry or are in the process of depleting reserves.

I re-weight positions by selling off under-performers, wait for some lows then load up on producers like NGD. NG I still consider a long shot but playing it's 5% moves all time keeps me adding its shares slowly but surely. I've lightened up on Capital Gold and Great Basin lately moving into NGD or sitting on the cash. Watching FRG NXG trying out GSS have some TGB,  IAG looking ripe, small position in HL. Lots of take over targets that run up until assimilated, nice if you catch the right train.

Look at Thursday's biggest gainers by percentage and you'll get a good idea of which miners are attracting interest but don't be surprised that they get beat up on again soon (another buying opportunity). Any large upward movements I'm inclined to take profits during this trading range just to get back in on some lows. Even my piece of shit PMPIX was up over 6% that one I can't wait to unload but hold for long term tax advantage when I do sell.

I keep saying TRE doesn't have the gold reserves it needs to make the big time as a royalty company. Things could change. Probably run up anyway as the Chinese tease it but I seem to be doing better elsewhere than playing that drama.

1% chance hyper-inflation doesn't take hold and a total melt down in everything everywhere occurs including gold.

 


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If you are just treading water lately then you are doing okay since the sector is constantly manipulated as if gold is useless. Again, only the producers or on the verge of producing show any signs of strength like NGD. You would be better off just to hold through for a few more months for a conformation of trend into autumn if confirmation fails then you can begin worrying.   

I was in the run up 40 years ago to 850 $ So I know what should get me worried
Seven and I agree that 2012 is the earliest for a blow off ; probably much later 2016 or so.
Basically  I follow the 12 candle cycle which is still up and up . Everything in between is
show .
I am into mines and gold since 1999 and in the first 5 years the South Africans paid more
dividend then my bank deposits and the mines kept going up . The dividends are over and the potential seems over too ; apart from Drooy which is a lottery ticket . If the price of gold goes up 50% in one year Drooy may perform miracles.
 
Belgium has no capital gains taxes ; so I can reposition as I like ; when I like . I already got out 40% of the South Africans the last few weeks and into New Gold
I think from now on we got to start going up because the 12 candle cycle is in the 6 th candle and the bottom should be in or close at midpoint on the montlies
I am making some money because most of my miners are in Canadian dollars and those are up 15% against the euro abetting the pain of miners gone down 10-20 % since its peak
Also gold in euro is near its all time high and for the past 10 years my return on gold is better then my return on shares ( I am a good gold timer and a passable share picker but I should close out and rotate sooner )

I want to move into better performing miners without going to the pink sheets like the german forum is doing . My best pick this year was Oceana with 50% in two months.
But it is maxed out in all time frames now ( although this can keep going on with slow stochs)

I will look at the stocks you mentioned but on chartbasis I rejected NG allready several times . I am tracking Osisko and Aura .

 

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April 02, 2010, 01:11:37 PM
After reading through the most recent posts I have decided that all states should legalize prostitution and tax the devil out of their profits. It would be just like all the legalized gambling we now cope with! And quite honestly it would be exactly the same thing. The state makes a fortune in taxes and the little guy always gets screwed!!! ;D

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After I took some time to look at MFN facts and figures from their web site they just don't have the reserves (couple million ounces known) necessary to hit the big time right now. They claim no hedging but pay RGLD 3% or recently $30 for every ounce along with other conventional financing costs, they just can't bear their own costs without help. They predicted some targets last year and missed which is being reflected in the share price now. They are doing everything right like making nice with the locals but mining output is going to be limited, They need to be at least self sufficient.

Oceanagold has near 6 mil oz of gold in the ground with maybe 3 mil more laying around somewhere with good monthly production. They are admittedly hedged so they might reach a plateau and get stuck there until they payoff that book entry.

GOLD RESOURCE CORP (with an assist by HOCHSCHILD MINING) began production on near surface gold claiming $100 an ounce costs and own 5 properties 100%. Guys seem to prefer this one over MFN, I don't know, I can only find 1mil in stated resources and $27mil lost last year but hey, following herd mentality couldn't hurt much until that cliff comes into view, at least according to corresponding share prices.

Back to NG with 18 mil ounces known with a total of 36 mil ounces untapped between them with ABX as a half partner, NG's part is to cover costs in exploring and drilling with ABX covering the eventual mining costs when production finally begins. 50/50 split of net proceeds.
You can see where 36 trumps a couple million or even 6 or 8 million ounces.

IAG still looks good for the long haul.

As spot rises every miner does better except the hedged ones but the mines already free and clear now will be the real winners.

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 02, 2010, 11:13:50 PM
After reading through the most recent posts I have decided that all states should legalize prostitution and tax the devil out of their profits. It would be just like all the legalized gambling we now cope with! And quite honestly it would be exactly the same thing. The state makes a fortune in taxes and the little guy always gets screwed!!! ;D

Euh are you sure they gets screwed ?
A lot of cheap houses here only do handjobs   ::)
Taxes don't bother me ; I was raised with them ; they are like lice if you never knew better
you just scratch  ???

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 02, 2010, 11:41:26 PM
After I took some time to look at MFN facts and figures from their web site they just don't have the reserves (couple million ounces known) necessary to hit the big time right now. They claim no hedging but pay RGLD 3% or recently $30 for every ounce along with other conventional financing costs, they just can't bear their own costs without help. They predicted some targets last year and missed which is being reflected in the share price now. They are doing everything right like making nice with the locals but mining output is going to be limited, They need to be at least self sufficient.

Oceanagold has near 6 mil oz of gold in the ground with maybe 3 mil more laying around somewhere with good monthly production. They are admittedly hedged so they might reach a plateau and get stuck there until they payoff that book entry.

GOLD RESOURCE CORP (with an assist by HOCHSCHILD MINING) began production on near surface gold claiming $100 an ounce costs and own 5 properties 100%. Guys seem to prefer this one over MFN, I don't know, I can only find 1mil in stated resources and $27mil lost last year but hey, following herd mentality couldn't hurt much until that cliff comes into view, at least according to corresponding share prices.

Back to NG with 18 mil ounces known with a total of 36 mil ounces untapped between them with ABX as a half partner, NG's part is to cover costs in exploring and drilling with ABX covering the eventual mining costs when production finally begins. 50/50 split of net proceeds.
You can see where 36 trumps a couple million or even 6 or 8 million ounces.

IAG still looks good for the long haul.

As spot rises every miner does better except the hedged ones but the mines already free and clear now will be the real winners.

If you can't decide on a miner, buy some more gold coins. 

Thanks for the info
Though I got an MBA from Northwestern Univ 1981 I swore never to look at fundamental funnies because they are so easy to manipulate but to look at charts first and second and third and then maybe read the homepage to make sure I am not buying a watch manufacturer such as Omega gold  :P

MFN I bought 6 months before their first goldpouring at some mine and traded a dozen times my cost is 3.63 cad at present so I don't worry allthough the chart now looks indifferent as a newslettre writer I would rate it a hold

Oceana as reported by Kitco closed out all their hedgies and that is probably why they went up 50% when only insiders knew and chartreaders like me ; I am at 1.30 cad average and happy ; a strong hold for today

NG got rated 3.5 by Kitco ( sell) and way overbought in all time frames by me
My rating wait and see

I never seriously looked at I am gold  :)

I have been trucking to the money exchangers that sell gold at spot with a spread of 3% for for 4 years starting at 300 euro per ounce and it is now 850 per ounce
Then I started buying at melt on the bay
Now I am buying from german forum members

I am starting to think of starting to sell at 1200 euro those unsightly Krugers and Eagles and Maples and the Nuggets with slide and fingerprints ( that is the Roos)
My wife stated that I probably will die with most unique goldcoins still unsold  ???

I hope when Seven's mother finally  died he can help her sell the coins when I am dead
since I would hate some scrounger to get them 40% below value because the widow has to pay 30% tax on everything  ???

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 02, 2010, 11:53:24 PM
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Looting Main Street
How the nation’s biggest banks are ripping off American cities with the same predatory deals that brought down Greece
MATT TAIBBIPosted Mar 31, 2010 8:15 AM 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/32906678/looting_main_street/1

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 02, 2010, 11:54:39 PM
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  California’s last auto plant shuts its doors
Apr 1 02:26 PM US/Eastern

FREMONT, Calif. (AP) – The last car has rolled off the production lines at California’s sole auto plant.

Workers are trickling out of the New United Motor Manufacturing plant in Fremont as they complete their tasks and the plant readies to shut down. 

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9EQEAHG0&show_article=1

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 02, 2010, 11:55:29 PM
You want the truth?

- March Unemployment Rose to 9.8% Net of Census Hiring
- Official Reporting: BLS U-3 Held at 9.7%, U-6 Rose to 16.9%,
SGS Rose to 21.7%
-  March Employment Gain of 162,000 Was 114,000 Net of Temporary Census Hiring
- Economic-Deterioration Signal Intensifies

"No. 289: March Employment and Unemployment, Liquidity Crisis"
http://www.shadowstats.com/

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 02, 2010, 11:58:55 PM
Bonny and Clyde new style

He gets 40 virgins from allah  ;D
I wonder what she gets ?  :P
Probably never to be sold again or cut up and sewn up or bartered for two camels ?
( yoh pistol buffs ; can anybody tell me what funny pistol he is holding ?)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/40b2b7e8-3e84-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.html




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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 12:13:59 AM
There is a statistical theory that says that everything tend to go to the average
Very good companies fall asleep and pocket the bonusses and go to down whilst very bad companies hire better mgt and try harder and go up

I tried to apply this to goldmines and failed miserably because only Tanzanian obliged
It was 50 weeks plus nr 1 and fell to last position and now is moving back up to the average

Another good idea gone to hell

http://www2.barchart.com/sectors.asp?sec=mining~-~gold.sec&level=2&title=Mining+-+Gold

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 06:06:10 AM
Hedging or not depends on the definition usually hedges less than a year out are not considered hedging just creative financing. Trouble any way you look at it on a large upward movement in gold price.

 


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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 06:16:34 AM
Hedging or not depends on the definition usually hedges less than a year out are not considered hedging just creative financing. Trouble any way you look at it on a large upward movement in gold price.

The banksters have clouded the most simple things

Any option call or put , any future long or short , any forward contract at a fixed price is some kind of betting or edging .

But I believe Sinclair when he says new players have no choice , play the bankster game or don't play at all  ???

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 06:48:25 AM
Looks like I will have to look at Linear again
Buy advice and turnaround from loss to gain if true

http://www.kitco.com/ind/matlack/mar302010_juniors.html

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 12:20:02 PM
There is a statistical theory that says that everything tend to go to the average
Very good companies fall asleep and pocket the bonusses and go to down whilst very bad companies hire better mgt and try harder and go up

I tried to apply this to goldmines and failed miserably because only Tanzanian obliged
It was 50 weeks plus nr 1 and fell to last position and now is moving back up to the average

Another good idea gone to hell

http://www2.barchart.com/sectors.asp?sec=mining~-~gold.sec&level=2&title=Mining+-+Gold

Yes, I think the exact phrase for today is that "everything reverts to the mean."--unless  a sugar daddy in dc  forces taxpayers or would be short sellers to prop up the rot.  

But all the same stuff that Sun Tzu said 5,000 years ago.   8)
"Strength becomes weakingss,
weakness becomes strength."



I never did get that martyr and 77 virgins stuff. What is a ghost   suppose to do with 77 virgins, wish real hard?   :o

 


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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
I am still wondering what the 77 virgins did to deserve such a fate? ;D And I sure would like to know how old they are as that sure is a lot of untouched women isn't it? I wonder what kind of resources a guy will need in the afterlife to take care of so many?
Basically this is typical of what government and religion can do with generations of unchecked propaganda and brain washing. Remove educational opportunities for the masses and you have total mind control.

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
Bonny and Clyde new style

He gets 40 virgins from allah  ;D
I wonder what she gets ?  :P
Probably never to be sold again or cut up and sewn up or bartered for two camels ?
( yoh pistol buffs ; can anybody tell me what funny pistol he is holding ?)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/40b2b7e8-3e84-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.html



I had no clue but I asked a board with knowledgeable and varied backgrounds here is the reply.....

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pimp has full-auto capable Stechkin 1948 APS, whore - a Makarov 1951 PM



 


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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 11:39:18 PM
After 500 pocketbooks the Makarov rings a bell as a classic
The other I have never seen nor heard off
Anyway if you want to go fully auto you need the burp gun like All Capone's men were using and Omar Shariff . But I prefer the gangster virsion with the slide on the side and
not on the top .
I have book with the best guns of Europe ( I am not allowed to buy)

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 11:40:56 PM
I am still wondering what the 77 virgins did to deserve such a fate? ;D And I sure would like to know how old they are as that sure is a lot of untouched women isn't it? I wonder what kind of resources a guy will need in the afterlife to take care of so many?
Basically this is typical of what government and religion can do with generations of unchecked propaganda and brain washing. Remove educational opportunities for the masses and you have total mind control.

In my days the definition of a virgin was a 12 year old that could run faster then her 13 year old brother . I wonder what it is now . ;D

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 11:44:21 PM
A 21 and 15 year old killed Terrablanche
They RISK to be accused of murder
Zuma is calling for calm  >:(
I sold half of my South Africans the last two weeks ; it is time to sell more eg all except the lottery ticket Drooy



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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 03, 2010, 11:51:56 PM
Did you see Schippi
NG on nr 2

http://www.selectsectors.com/

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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 04, 2010, 12:16:25 AM
Bonny and Clyde new style

He gets 40 virgins from allah  ;D
I wonder what she gets ?  :P
Probably never to be sold again or cut up and sewn up or bartered for two camels ?
( yoh pistol buffs ; can anybody tell me what funny pistol he is holding ?)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/40b2b7e8-3e84-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.html





Looks like a toy to me.

 


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Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
April 04, 2010, 12:39:08 AM
Kind of look like a toy to me. They could do much better by buying airsofts from China and painting the orange end black. My little guy has an AR-15 that looks exactly like the real thing other than the orange marked muzzle. A little black paint could get a guy killed. If I remember correctly we have had two paintballers killed here in the states when someone called the cops about a man with a gun. The paintballer is looking for other paintballers with a paint ball gun and a cop is looking for a man with a gun. Both of them will see just that in low light but one is using real bullets. Guess thats why I wouldn't play paintball outside in a city.
I don't know if we are supposed to be impressed by the photo? They just as well have a fake gun as they won't be using it. The so called leaders will strap a bomb onto the chest of their patsy for maximum results. You never have to worry about your bomber giving up any information when he/she uses such a weapon so the masterminds (leaders) don't fear too many reprisals. Its called tying up loose ends?

Terry
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