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KurtS

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Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 11:33:08 AM
Perhaps a few other US collectors can share their experience of writing a customs declaration to Australia?
Until today, I found I could write "hobby supplies" on my packages without getting specific.
Now for some reason, the post office wants me to write "coins". I suggested why this isn't a good idea, but they insisted on that detail.  >:(
Has anyone seen an actual "rule" for this, or am I subject to the random whims of postal employees?

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
"stamped metal disks."

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 12:00:21 PM
Kurt, I don't tell them what is in the package. I package before hand, and commemorative rounds are another good name for coins, if they really want to a more descriptive description. Which of course relate to the hobby of numismatics. Confuse them with jargon and you shouldn't have any problems.

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 12:30:57 PM
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Confuse them with jargon and you shouldn't have any problems.
Right--next time it will be "metallurgical samples". I should be able to talk circles around that.  ;)
I hope everything arrives OK, and I threw in something extra for your wife to appreciate your hobby too.  ;D

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 01:06:04 PM
Kurt, how exactly did it happen? Did you write "hobby supplies" and the person behing the counter saw it and said it wasn't specific enough??? :-\ I'm shipping a package in the morning, so thats kinda got me worried.

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 01:25:09 PM
The last 15 or 20 packages I have sent to Australia have been marked "Hobby Supplies."

Small packages, with one or two coins, haven't required a customs forum.

I plan to send several packages to Australia as soon as I get my hands on some Alaska Quarters.  I'll see what happens then.

 :) :) :) :)

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 01:27:55 PM
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and I threw in something extra for your wife to appreciate your hobby too

Kurt, you are a legend. Will have yours sent off early next week.

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 02:35:34 PM
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Kurt, how exactly did it happen? Did you write "hobby supplies" and the person behing the counter saw it and said it wasn't specific enough???
Adam, yes--I always write that at home, and no problems until today. Who knows the reason...I find these people very fickle. Next time, I'll write something uncontestable.

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 03:43:30 PM
Well, I'll post the results of my trip to the post office in this topic tommorrow :) :P

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 08:41:51 PM
 :D

Your Post Office is correct.
They want to know, exactly what is the content.   Your Post Office, even RECORD THE IDENTITY of the sender.
Please try
Numismatic Material or Numismatic Specimen.
George

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 09:38:09 PM
Numismatic is a No-Go term.  Too many postal thieve... er, employees have clued in that Numismatic means Gold or Silver Coins.

Do add this coin to my collection?
 
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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Numismatic is a No-Go term.  Too many postal thieve... er, employees have clued in that Numismatic means Gold or Silver Coins.
Yes, I'm with Miss Kitty on this one. ;D I would'nt write anything like "Numismatic" or "Coins" on the package. There's a great many honest postal employees out there ( I happen to know quite a few!), but then there are a lot of bad apples out there also! ;D

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 11, 2008, 10:45:22 PM
I ALWAYS WRITE TWO LINES.
(i) gift, no commercial value.
(ii) For customs, used die stampings, value $10.
keep the value nominal, I have never had any problems.
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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 12, 2008, 09:31:55 AM
I only ever use "Hobby Supplies" for a description, tick "gift" & for value, I always put $2. 

If you put anything that indicates coins or high value contents, you surely run the risk of it going 'Astray'.

I've only ever had one parcel go missing & that was to the Philipines. 

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 12, 2008, 09:37:25 AM
Another problem exists when you want to register the item - without being more specific, hard to get item replaced if description and value are not more specific. I usually now only register item if it has been something I have been asked to purchase for a member and if the replacement value has been over a certain amount. How do you get around that one? That has also created a problem at receiving end with recipient having to pay customs on item.

 


Offline AdamL

Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 12, 2008, 10:45:38 AM
Numismatic is a No-Go term.  Too many postal thieve... er, employees have clued in that Numismatic means Gold or Silver Coins.

You are correct. I put "Numismatic supplies" for a coin I sent to Canada. It was my only package that ever vanished. >:(

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 12, 2008, 10:46:40 AM
I sent my package this morning, and had no problem with writing "Hobby supplies".

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 13, 2008, 02:26:18 AM
I have normally written "Numismatic Collectables" on the CD - this is to throw off the normal, thick natured thieves who might just let it pass by as too complicated to understand...lately I have taken to writing 'hobby supplies'...writing 'coins' sounds like asking people to advertise their packages as eminently thievable.

I am also annoyed about Royal Mail's dastardly rules about having to send coins in a box?? In my opinion, it should not make a difference as it is always RM's responsibility to get your mail to a destination and to pay the price whenever they fail to do so safely!

Now I note that both 'numismatic' and 'collectables' are eminently thievable terms and I will try and write something else every time!

Thing is, it does not seem ostensibly like such of a problem if something is made of 'copper' or 'bronze' as you can just write 'old copper' or 'old bronze' and no SILVER, GOLD etc...

Now here's the rub, the thieves in the postal system can pick up on anything that we tend to write often, so if we choose anything that could only mean one thing they will always learn what it is i.e. 'old copper' or 'old metal' would normally be coins would it not?!

Seems like we have been lumbered with a dilemma.

Now the thing I like most about 'hobby supplies' is that not only is it vague, but it could easily be something else? Is it technically a lie? - no, so it would stand the test if it came down to it.
So I really don't see a need to alter this as it is adequately uncertain with regards to what is inside and truthful. Anything that could be something else would seem to be the right way to throw thieves off the track as they will always come to learn which definitions on packages should lead to a prize of coins and for that reason if we have to write anything consistently, it should have to be by necessity vague and I don't see any way we can be blamed for thefts from our packages if we are forced into indicating COINSSSSS - PLEASE THIEVE! on our packages hahahaha......

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 13, 2008, 09:46:40 PM
My favorite is 'used die stampings'.
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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 14, 2008, 07:28:41 PM

OK.....as a Customs Broker here in Australia....if you declare "metallurgical samples" you will have a Quarantine problem (looking for soil or rock samples).

I always use hobby supplies and if the want more metal disks.

Do not use coins or numismatic items......you will not get them.....


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 14, 2008, 08:23:46 PM
What is the best way round though if you want to register / insure the package?

 


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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 14, 2008, 09:06:24 PM

If you insure then you have to declare the contents, I usually use Tokens as a description.

Registered mail the same as before because you do not need to list items.

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Re: Customs declarations to Australia
September 15, 2008, 12:22:42 AM
I always use "numismatic items" and haven't had a problem yet. I'd like to think that 90% of the population wouldn't know what a numismatic item is. "Coins" is a bit more of a giveaway. Perhaps "pressed metal sample" is a good one or there is the flavoured version "pressed mint sample".