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SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 03:09:35 AM
I HEAR THAT OTHER PIRATES ARE TRYING TO COME TO THE AID OF THE PIRATES HOLDING THAT BOAT CAPTAIN----WHY CAN'T THEY BE ELIMANATED?--AFTER ALL IT'S A BIG OCEAN AND ACCIDENTS HAPPEN AND THE HELL WITH WHAT THE WORLD THINKS---THE TEMPLAR

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 03:58:18 AM
Curiously enough the French seem to be the only ones actively pursuing the pirates -  they have rescued their nationals on several occasions already, even going into Somalia to do it.

They talk about these "mother ships" how about just lobbing a anti-ship missile into them and taking them out.  Then destroy their bases on land.  But the problem is... the lousy UN.  They seemingly are useless in practically every international problem now.

 


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April 11, 2009, 05:30:56 AM
Curiously enough the French seem to be the only ones actively pursuing the pirates -  they have rescued their nationals on several occasions already, even going into Somalia to do it.

They talk about these "mother ships" how about just lobbing a anti-ship missile into them and taking them out.  Then destroy their bases on land.  But the problem is... the lousy UN.  They seemingly are useless in practically every international problem now.

A French official just casually announced that a pirated yacht was "stormed" and the pirates killed . Unfortunately the owner did not survive the operation . The other four including a child are allright . ( Flemish TV ) Message is clear . Killing pirates is more important than not coming out with dead civilians . I think the Somalis will try to avoid French ships from now on . They do not need the hassle .

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 07:19:16 AM
Its ridiculous. They need to just put an end to this. If that means killing some pirates, fine.

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 07:49:17 AM
The UN has always been about as useless as a milk bucket under a bull!!!  :)

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 08:44:24 AM
Thomas Jefferson knew how to take care of that sort of situation over 200 years ago.

Our response should have been immediate and decisive.

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 08:57:27 AM
The UN has always been about as useless as a milk bucket under a bull!!!  :)

The UN does absolutely nothing lately.  If it is some anti-USA resolution the Chinese and Russians are all for it, and the USA vetoes it.  If it is something against N. Korea or Serbia or something China and Russia veto it.  The common problem is the veto power of the permanent members, ala Russia, the USA, China.  The USA has used it's veto power consistently since the 1960's in resolutions passed against Israel, and the others have used them with Serbia, Kenya, N. Korea etc.

When the Ukrainian ship MV Faina was seized last year, it was literally held for months.  There was no way Ukraine could do anything militarily, and finally they ended up paying a lesser ransom to free the ship and crew.  Russia did step up patrols in the region, only because 3-4 of the crew were Russian nationals.

Curiously the only time the USA has ever gotten praise for anything from N. Korea was when the US Navy assisted a N. Korean ship that had been overtaken, and they fought off the attackers and the Navy sent people over to assist the crew afterwards in securing the ship and assisting the wounded crew.

 


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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 09:06:29 AM
Thomas Jefferson knew how to take care of that sort of situation over 200 years ago.

Our response should have been immediate and decisive.

 :) :) :) :)
I'm with you on that, CoinCrusader. No B.S. and all bullets! "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" is my philosophy! It's what we should've done in Iraq and Afghanistan! Our boys would have been back home by now!!!  >:( >:( >:( MAD AS HELL!!!

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 09:14:01 AM
I'll add to that.

They should be back home and guarding the southern border!!

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 10:02:54 AM

I'm with you on that, CoinCrusader. No B.S. and all bullets! "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" is my philosophy! It's what we should've done in Iraq and Afghanistan! Our boys would have been back home by now!!!  >:( >:( >:( MAD AS HELL!!!


They should have never been in those places in the first place, they could have used some enhanced firepower(I will leave that to interpretation) and taken them all out, and as you said, let God sort them out.  Russian veterans of the Afghan conflict have been advising that there is no way anyone is going to win there using conventional means.  Something cultural with the people in those regions that lets them switch sides and be duplicitous with ease.

 


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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 10:03:56 AM
I'll add to that.

They should be back home and guarding the southern border!!

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Honestly I am less concerned about Jose coming over to work illegally and more concerned about all the narco traffic and potential terrorists that are coming over - that is where the real problem is on the Mexican frontier.

 


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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 11:08:12 AM
I agree with that, however the country going bankrupt due to billions going for schools, healthcare and prisons for illegals is darn well a big problem.

Of course the way things are going, we won't have to wait that long to go bankrupt.

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 03:38:10 PM
If I remember my history correctly, wasn't it Jefferson who said, "Millions for defense, but not a penny for tribute."

Maybe the Pirates haven't read that.

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 11:35:36 PM
If I remember my history correctly, wasn't it Jefferson who said, "Millions for defense, but not a penny for tribute."

Maybe the Pirates haven't read that.

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Have a read up on Stephen Decatur and the USS Philadelphia and the Barbary pirates.  Aside from the British, the Barbary pirates were the first exercise of American naval power ever.

 


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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 11, 2009, 11:37:39 PM
I agree with that, however the country going bankrupt due to billions going for schools, healthcare and prisons for illegals is darn well a big problem.

Of course the way things are going, we won't have to wait that long to go bankrupt.

 :) :) :) :)

But the illegals want to work, and believe me there are a lot of people here that don't - they are parked on welfare and WIC programmes and buying the high priced ice cream so they can fatten their voluminous carcasses all the more at public expense.  I say let the illegals work, and send these sponges to Mexico.  Then Mexico will have illegals too.

 


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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 12, 2009, 12:12:58 AM
Look at France
If the dole and money for nothing is not big enough any more the Illigals will set the country on fire
As long as there are jobs the illigals will do them good and cheap
When there is no more jobs for anybody outside the taxpaying system the illigals will revolt

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 12, 2009, 12:13:42 AM

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 12, 2009, 01:14:58 AM
The bottom line on most situations facing the U.S. is based on two things---ILLEGAL and LEGAL. The second you do something ILLEGAL you are a criminal and it should be dealt with. I have NO problem with immigration when it is done within the limits of the law. Controled and orderly with a balance any nation can deal with. We have many a great man and woman, both in the past and present, who came here to build a life for their families and have contributed much to our history. I am sorry I can't say the same for the illegals. READ the police blotters in any paper. Have a car wreck with illegals involved or roam a neighborhood where they and their newly formed gangs now reside. We have a choice---deal now or deal later! The same goes for our pirate problem.
Now for the Middle East I say its way past time to get out. NOTHING we can do will change those people or their way of life without at least two generations of work, education and freedoms which they have never had. I really don't want to take on millions of immigrants in another country and that is exactly what it would be like doing.
I will go on to say that nothing just happens. The powers that be must LET it happen and its all for an agenda that is way beyond most folks imagination. Of course I also believe assassinations do not just happen. They must be allowed to happen and its been that way since the beginning of this country. Its all about who's in charge and their agenda. We went through years being taught to hate the Soviet Union and its people? Why? And for what end? Government uses fear as a weapon against its people to stay in power in every country on the planet. Seems there are many more kinds of fear than most folks realize?

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April 12, 2009, 06:16:02 AM

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 12, 2009, 08:07:32 AM
About time.

Good for us.

Hate to see anybody killed, but the bad guys had their chances and were just too darn greedy.

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April 12, 2009, 09:11:30 AM
Hey, if the bad guys are killed, WHO REALLY CARES???  ;D Maybe their mothers?  ;D

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 12, 2009, 10:42:33 AM
Excellent! Now send the SEALS  to wallstreet. 

 


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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 12, 2009, 11:13:03 AM
Excellent! Now send the SEALS  to wallstreet. 

Let them take out the Pirates of Manhattan ;D

 


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April 12, 2009, 11:26:09 AM
I think the Somalis will try to avoid French ships from now on . They do not need the hassle .
Those with American flags had better be put on their list also, I would think!

Let's hear it for those Navy Seals who did the job right!

Amen to that. U.S. Navy Seals. Kickin @$$ and takin names  ;D

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 12, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
Bring the boys home to do the same thing. Southern border needs help. Wallstreet and most major corporations need a good cleaning out. Maybe that is what it will take to finally put a little fear in the greedy crooks who have been running the world the past 20 or 30 years? And, of course, there are gangs roaming most of the major cities who could use a good butt kickin'. Take no prisoners!!!
Let the good times roll!!! ;D

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Re: SOMALI PIRATES????
April 13, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
WELL IT SEEMS THE US "SEALS" EARNED THEIR PAY FOR MARKMENSHIP---THAT MUST HAVE BEEN QUITE A SHOT IN A BOAT AT A BOAT IN THE OCEAN---I WOULD THINK TWICE BEFORE I BE CAME A PIRATE---I DAMN SURE WOULD STAY BELOW DECK AT LEAST!---LUCKY THIS TIME! THE TEMPLAR!

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