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Worldwide Coins & Bank Notes => European Coins => Topic started by: SirStacksALot on April 18, 2014, 05:56:48 AM

Title: Maltese Liras
Post by: SirStacksALot on April 18, 2014, 05:56:48 AM
I grabbed these four silver cions off of ebay last week and they came in the mail a few days ago. The two coins from malta seemed quite strange since they have the euro symbol on them, but as far as I can tell from what I have read, the Lira was the currency of Malta untill the end of 2007. Other 2000-2001 coins from Malta  seem to be Liras also. There is no amount for the Euro on these, but I still find it wierd that the euro is even mentioned on this coin. Does anyone know any more history on these, or the other two coins in the picture?
Title: Re: Maltese Liras
Post by: NoHope587 on April 18, 2014, 09:49:45 AM
Malta joined the EU in 2010 i think
before it was pounds and lira..
Title: Re: Maltese Liras
Post by: Triggersmob on April 18, 2014, 11:28:36 AM
I can't help with any info on these,
but they are wonderful coins.
Nice purchase, Jim.  :)
Title: Re: Maltese Liras
Post by: JoseMartins on April 19, 2014, 01:53:52 AM
The Netherlands and Luxembourg "coins" are medals struck by the Utrech mint (look for a small caduceus mint mark to confirm this, i can't open the attachments) for a private company. Before 1/1/1999 it was legal for everyone to struck medals with ECU/Euro denominations and in particular, german coin distribution companies were very prolific in this business during the 1994/98 period.

The maltese coins aren't from malta but (supposedly) from the S.M.O.M : http://www.orderofmalta.int/?lang=en
But the fact that they are struck in a denomination other than soverano, scudo (plural: scudi) , tari and grano (plural: grani), make me think that they are fantasies: http://www.orderofmalta.int/history/813/mimic-orders-of-malta/?lang=en

Jose
Title: Re: Maltese Liras
Post by: SirStacksALot on April 20, 2014, 12:32:11 PM
Thank you for the info Richard and Jose. I didn't know much of the history for the Euro or the Lira. It seems they are all fantasy "coins". After looking onto it a little more, 500 Liras would probably be about 100 times the spot price of the silver in these at the time the Knights of Malta "coins" were made. 

There is a small caduceus mark above the 7 arrows on the Netherlands "coin".

These make me think of the Ameros that Daniel Carr is making right now.