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Title: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 27, 2009, 04:54:51 AM
I have been asked by dharmaye to publish my charts again in this protected environment as well as goldcoin and miner
stories I have
If I see that they are proliferated again across the internet with other peoples names on them I will stop posting them for the last time on any "public" forum

Dharmaye ; they are a gift to be shared with fellow knights only

These charts are copyrigted to AGK and the knights of the cointable and trespassers will have to
withstand the wrath of my voodoo doctor  ;D :D ;)
This is no bullshit like Senor uses to say on traders talk : this is for real NO BS

Dharma allways seems to try on the shoe I dropped and allways asks why it fits him  ::) Jerks will be jerks forever
He told me on the other forum life is too short and I should not hold a grudge ; but I cannot help it
Flemish people have  very few friends and hold grudges till they die

So here we go

The monthly charts of continuous gold still predict a january high somewhere in january
( that is what monthly charts are all about to fix a month )
There is a supposition the cycle may be shortening into the parabolic but no evidence yet

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3037&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 27, 2009, 04:58:05 AM
The weekly charts point to a high in the second half of january
That is unless the high is behind us and the cycles used are no longer valid
There is no proof but a sneeking suspicion on my side the cycles are shortening

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3042&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 27, 2009, 05:05:56 AM
The daily charts seem to have alternated from the 107 day cycle to the 110 day cycle so
I now take a janurary 13 high as most probable ( that is if the high is not in decembre yet )
I am not selling any physical gold ( au contraire I am buying 7% below melt right now
all sovereigns and 20 FF roosters and it are the French that are selling this cheap ; the germans are
7% above melt at the moment ) I also am trying to get some more lucky angels

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3045&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 27, 2009, 05:14:21 AM
In miners I got Anglogold, Harmony, Durban Deep ( all shit )
Kinross, Yamana, Tanzanian, Minefinders (only minefinders is a joy )
Great Basin Gold , Oceana ( both trying to show they can fly )

In gold coins I have switched to the sovereign , 20 FF size and surpirsingly getting them 7% below melt up to MS65

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3046&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 27, 2009, 05:23:12 AM
Summary
I look towards selling miners in january and continue buying any gold below melt I can get
I have switched to well known sovereigns and french 20 FF and Swisse Vrenellis
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 27, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
Ha, ha. I figured you survived the flu and the gold correction! Welcome back PYW!

Over here the U.S Mint can't strike ASE's and AGE's fast enough. I can't see that much has changed in the U.S.  The rot still hangs in mid-air so maybe 2010 will  be an even better  year for metals.  

Maybe you remember this  passage in Atlas Shrugged.  It's  reminds me of the mighty dollar--just a hollowed out shell waiting for a black swan down draft  to knock it over:

******************************************************
"He felt safe in the oak tree's presence; it was a thing that
nothing could change or threaten;  it was his greatest symbol of
strength.
  One night, lightning struck the oak tree. Eddie saw it the next
morning. It lay broken in half, and he looked into its trunk as
into the mouth of a black tunnel.  The trunk was only an empty shell;
its heart had rotted away long ago; there was nothing inside--just a
thin gray dust that was being dispersed by the whim of the faintest
 wind.  The living power had gone, and the shape it left had not
been able to stand without it."

Atlas Shrugged--Ayn Rand
******************************************************

(http://www.york.ac.uk/sustainability/images/sub/black-swans.jpg)
And after that we'll go eat those two gerbils.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 27, 2009, 10:43:05 PM
Quote
Ha, ha. I figured you survived the flu and the gold correction! Welcome back PYW!
 

I had a stomach flu and since my remedy is drinking thee with dubble strenght brown rum added to it ;I was misserable without my medecine .
I then got into a blue funk ; my full spectrum lights had difficulty in producing enough serotonine to keep
me jolly  ::)
On top of that my goldcycle seems to be running late ( it is maybe pregnant )
I expected an high as early as 4 jan 2010 and moved my expectations to 13 jan 2010
So I hunkered down waiting for gold to turn up confessing my doubts not even to myself  ;D

Title: !
Post by: longnine009 on December 27, 2009, 11:41:38 PM
It's only the short run that I have doubts about when it comes to metals. All the money the two baboons  are throwing around is bound to fix something for a few months.  Apparently it already is with all that over priced garbage on wallstreet. But in the long run this economic freak show has only just begun. IMO, it's a Fourth Turning that could last 20 years. I'm truly amazed with people who cling to the idea that 35 years of economic abuse can be cleansed away in 18-24 months. And without doing any cleansing--What a country! I'm surprised Bernanke doesn't call it the  "undelete prosperity button." Just give me a moment here to click the  undelete prosperity  button and everything will be okay again. And they'll believe it too!

Oh well. A Fourth Turning, as people are going to find out,  is not a recession or a bump in the road-it's a cat-5 hurricane.

When it's over, gold, silver and  scavenging crows who pick the bones of dead  gladiators ("masters of the universe") will be the real winners.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 28, 2009, 12:44:03 AM
Our legal sales period only starts jan the 4th and there are allready discounts up to 50% which cannot be marked as sales discounts but vendors get inventive in naming a sale by other names .

It is said that for the first time in history , up to 25%  belgian buyers will use credit to
purchase sales at more then 50% discount . To me this presumably means like 50% more
will just be cashed out without any money left but not having touched credit.

This is going to max most of them out january going into february and even march which means the rest of the cold season is going to be just a "give away"

I hope this means goldcoins at 10% below melt like in the 2003-2007 period over here .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on December 28, 2009, 02:37:26 AM
I THINK THE  FUTURE IS GOING TO BE IN TOILET PAPER---WITH ALL THE SHIT HITTING THE FANS AND THE AMOUNT OF BS BEING SPREAD ABOUT--ITS THE ONE THING EVERYONE WILL NEED---SAVE THEM CORNCOBS---YOU CAN USE THEM FOR MORE THAN PIPES

 JUST A THOUGHT--THE TEMPLAR(http://)

P.S.--WELCOME BACK PYW!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 28, 2009, 02:42:03 AM
Good to have you back among us August! I appreciate your insight and hope you are back to help us keep Longnine in line, and prevent the rest of us from going off the deep end when it comes  to buying gold. :)

Glad to be back . Having the blues is only slightly less unpleasant then having an hangover.
I am afraid that Longnine is the voice of reason compared to all those bonusses even Fannie and
Freddie managers will be getting
It is not buying gold that worries me ; it is to know when to sell ; to find the courage to sell and then to find an alternative to invest in other then roast beef and potatoes with gravy . ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 28, 2009, 03:23:57 AM
Funny that you mentioned Flunky and Failie and that you like charts so much.  Last week I read home sales rose or maybe it was "surged."  And the very next day that home sales had dropped. Even Bonner mentioned it:
*******************************************************
"Back in the USA, we could swear that we read a headline yesterday telling us that new home sales were rising. Today comes this Bloomberg headline:

'“Sales of New Homes Unexpectedly Fell in November.”'
Daily Reckoning 12/24/09
******************************************************

This is why technicians have the advantage now. What passes for "fundamentals" and "reports" are just lies, disinformation or spinny talk like "surprisingly." They'll be saying the same thing next month. Gas and or heating oil went up because of "surprisingly cold weather." Why is cold weather in the winter a surprise?  

But technicians could care less about spinny talk. They just tune out the "noise," read their charts and watch the world make it's Olympic championship black swan dive.   8)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Nighthawk on December 28, 2009, 04:36:28 AM
I THINK THE  FUTURE IS GOING TO BE IN TOILET PAPER---WITH ALL THE SHIT HITTING THE FANS AND THE AMOUNT OF BS BEING SPREAD ABOUT--ITS THE ONE THING EVERYONE WILL NEED---SAVE THEM CORNCOBS---YOU CAN USE THEM FOR MORE THAN PIPES

 


Better save your old beer bottles so that they can be turned into Molotov cocktails that will come in handy when the Gestapo comes knocking at your door in the middle of the night to haul you off to the friggin' GULAG!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 28, 2009, 08:44:28 AM
I THINK THE  FUTURE IS GOING TO BE IN TOILET PAPER---WITH ALL THE SHIT HITTING THE FANS AND THE AMOUNT OF BS BEING SPREAD ABOUT--ITS THE ONE THING EVERYONE WILL NEED---SAVE THEM CORNCOBS---YOU CAN USE THEM FOR MORE THAN PIPES

 


Better save your old beer bottles so that they can be turned into Molotov cocktails that will come in handy when the Gestapo comes knocking at your door in the middle of the night to haul you off to the friggin' GULAG!!!  ;D

I wonder what's up with lead prices?  :o
(http://www.kitconet.com/charts/metals/base/spot-lead-1y-Large.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 29, 2009, 12:38:10 AM
It is not buying gold that worries me ; it is to know when to sell ; to find the courage to sell and then to find an alternative to invest in other then roast beef and potatoes with gravy . ???
Don't know what to tell you but I'll offer this suggestion, based upon what I intend to do, and that is......set a price, and stick to it no matter how long it may take.  Then IF that day ever arrives, put all your profit (only) into some tin-can manufacturing companie's stock. I don't care how bad the economy gets, people will always need and use tin-cans. It has been a sure fire winner for me ever since the early 1940's.

I was thinking more of fertalizer companies
If you want to grow anything even in hydrophonics you need fertilizer
I will start selling no numismatic value coins at euro 1200 which is 50 % over todays prices
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 29, 2009, 12:40:59 AM
Funny that you mentioned Flunky and Failie and that you like charts so much.  Last week I read home sales rose or maybe it was "surged."  And the very next day that home sales had dropped. Even Bonner mentioned it:
*******************************************************
"Back in the USA, we could swear that we read a headline yesterday telling us that new home sales were rising. Today comes this Bloomberg headline:

'“Sales of New Homes Unexpectedly Fell in November.”'
Daily Reckoning 12/24/09
******************************************************

This is why technicians have the advantage now. What passes for "fundamentals" and "reports" are just lies, disinformation or spinny talk like "surprisingly." They'll be saying the same thing next month. Gas and or heating oil went up because of "surprisingly cold weather." Why is cold weather in the winter a surprise?  

But technicians could care less about spinny talk. They just tune out the "noise," read their charts and watch the world make it's Olympic championship black swan dive.   8

Most of the people on the german board I post now the names of all managers and the goldgrades and the coresamples analyses etc

I only look at RSI and Slow Stoch and Momentum and never now what the company is doing
Charts tell all those savvy people now and what the manipulators are doing

I only look at turnaround situations were somebody losing money is going to make money in the next year
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 29, 2009, 01:35:03 AM
I wonder what's up with lead prices?  :o
I may have figured out the reason lead has taken a raise in price.  It is my understanding that the Chinese have started making even more childrens toys, and therefor would need vast quantities of their special paint.  Yes, this must be the reason!!

I think you are wrong
They are putting it in Belgian tap water which today was reported to have near max quantities of lead
in it
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on December 29, 2009, 01:56:44 AM
I just wish I had a smelter or knew someone who did. Nickel bars would be high on my list even if the govenrment doesn't want me to have them. Of course, while I am smelting I suppose a venture into gold, silver and copper would also fit into my plans! Wheres a smelter when you need one?
I do like the idea of spending my spare time melting everything I can get my hands on into little bars for the future. It seems I may lack the knowledge and equipment to do so at this time! Darn my luck! Guess I will have to stay the course I am currently on! Just buy it!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 29, 2009, 02:24:23 AM
How beautifull gold can be
Marianne Rooster 1910 MS64 for less then melt at 141 euro

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3050&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 29, 2009, 04:31:38 AM
I wonder what's up with lead prices?  :o
I may have figured out the reason lead has taken a raise in price.  It is my understanding that the Chinese have started making even more childrens toys, and therefor would need vast quantities of their special paint.  Yes, this must be the reason!!

I think you are wrong
They are putting it in Belgian tap water which today was reported to have near max quantities of lead
in it


Are they making  vaccines for us?  Maybe  they just ran out of mercury and substituted a comparable toxin?

There could be money to be made in companies that repair or rebuild water infrastructure. Or a company that produces the materials to do such work.  Even if the  water shortage is just another Crap -N-Tax hoax, places like NYC with old pipe systems lose a lot of water from rotted pipes.

And then there's the  ethanol hallucination that probably will  cause a water shortage.  A brilliant tax subsidiary scheme, BTW,  where "We the People"  get a energy conversion that's a perfect fractal of Washington D.C --1 output for 29 inputs. Or 3.4% if my math is right. Not to mention that it probably does more to mask  good ole boys making moonshine than anything else.  But what the heck,  at least  moonshine boys are  real Capitalists.   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 29, 2009, 05:06:47 AM
I just wish I had a smelter or knew someone who did. Nickel bars would be high on my list even if the govenrment doesn't want me to have them. Of course, while I am smelting I suppose a venture into gold, silver and copper would also fit into my plans! Wheres a smelter when you need one?
I do like the idea of spending my spare time melting everything I can get my hands on into little bars for the future. It seems I may lack the knowledge and equipment to do so at this time! Darn my luck! Guess I will have to stay the course I am currently on! Just buy it!

http://www.lindsaybks.com/dgjp/djgbk/cruc/index.html
They publish tons of reprint books from eons ago. I think I even saw a book listed in their catalog on how to build a steam engine for a motorcycle. Guess if the boiler goes you really will have "chestnuts roasting on a open fire."  :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on December 29, 2009, 05:24:22 AM
Water shortage? Whatcha talkin' about? The following I've known as a reality for the last 10 yrs or so. Kalifornia and the S W are hurting for more water. It seemed to me many snows ago that the S W would like to "Tap" the Great Lakes for some water. During the last 10 or so yrs, all 8 states adjoining the Great Lakes have made laws to protect the lakes from being siphoned by other states. Now in my lifetime, the S W states will bring suit to be able to "Tap" the Great Lakes for their water needs. And sure as heck, the 9th district court (Kalifornia) will overturn the 8 Great Lakes states' water protection laws....no doubt about it!!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 29, 2009, 06:07:47 AM
I graduated the Louvain University as a chemical engineer in 1971 and they were making water from seawater by reverse osmosis with Loub Sourirain membres at the time . Belgium had a test unit making drinking water by flashing at 7 reduced pressure temperatures and condensing . It was at the time economicallty viable if the groundwater transfer was more then  70 miles .
My graduation work was making drinking water in one single step from seawater , using reverse osmosis with live membranes made from zirconiumhydroxyde at 30 bar pressure

All the oceans of the world can be made drinkable
We have water enough ( not food though )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 29, 2009, 06:08:08 AM
And sure as heck, the 9th district court (Kalifornia) will overturn the 8 Great Lakes states' water protection laws....no doubt about it!!

Repent now, ye carbon-footprint heretic or feel the wrath of the new Inquisition.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 30, 2009, 12:55:22 AM
Now lets not forget ALL governments can only do so much as they are owned and operated by the filthy rich. What ever they do for us little folks is orchastrated just as everything they do for themselves. The trick is finding the hidden agenda in everything they do. Nothing is really for us slaves! Thats a fact, they just tell us it is!

I was reading a book awhile back by what has to be one of the British governments royal pain in the butt. This fellow made the following quote and it really struck a chord with me...
"Just because someone tells you that your are free doesn't mean you are really free."


Oh my, that sounds like the same British government's royal pain in the butt who said:
"The earth has become a global Alcatraz, a spinning ball of control and imposition dictated by the few at the expense of the many."

This is from Sin City. It's so rare  to hear something coherent from the entertainment industry, I was sure they'd have to ruin it by playing  Brittney Spears and Chipmunks.

But here it is:

"Power doesn't  come from a badge or a gun. Power comes from lying. Lying big and gettin' the whole damn world to play along with you. Once you've got everybody agreeing with what they know in their hearts ain't true, you've got 'em by the balls."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 30, 2009, 01:26:27 AM
Would this be a bad time to bring up the 500 trillion in hedge fund toilet paper on the launch pad, aiming at the fan?  Can't wait to see what the two gerbils do about that.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 30, 2009, 01:58:04 AM
They must think I am stupid  ::)
They promise the end of the world in 2012 as if they could deliver ; and they want 360 $ per year for the next
two years plus ???
I will buy a few uncirculated geniuses aka lucky angels for that money  ;D

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/laird122909.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 30, 2009, 03:20:21 AM
He's using the right word--Devolution. IMO, the Fourth Turning will be about Individualism (with deviance of every kind as methods), VS. The Blob. The Blob can barely stay awake anymore, let alone counter deviance from every direction under the sun. This really should get pretty funny watching them try. Along the way, Black Markets, Underground Economies and PM's will go up against the ever expanding Blob, it's  "compliance" stooges and that toilet paper they call money. They can't win because they have already lost. They just haven't figured it out yet.

The costs of operating The Blob has  been rising since the 80's. At the same time their returns from the sale of the only thing they have to sell, which is negation of violence, has been falling. The tipping point was when the USSR collapsed. Rising costs and falling returns--You'd think even Bernanke could figure that one out.  But they can't because they are too arrogant.

At the same time in the 80's, wallstreet demonstrated through downsizing that the returns from  devolution  was rising. I really believe that they found a light bulb in the USSR somewhere on a otherwise empty shelf and it went off when they watched these downsizing  episodes from wallstreet.

The  Blob is getting bigger and bigger and will continue to do so for awhile, perhaps even a long while.  But it's the bluff and bluster of a has-been boxer. They saw the same bluster 500 years ago when the Vatican was losing it's central control over Europe. The Ballet of the Chestnuts was the pinnacle of arrogance and bluster. But it was already over for them.

Hold on to your gold my friend because the Blob is going to lose unless they can raise the returns to scale with some kind of Star Wars Death Star to control the world.

Ha, even then some Hans Solo might  figure out a way to defeat it for 29 cents.  As Sun Tzu says: Small armies cannot defeat big armies but big armies cannot catch little armies.

I liked where he said other writers are following him.  Practically every thing I read on futurism is following  Blood in the Streets--1987.  Including a lot of what I just posted.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 30, 2009, 11:49:02 PM
Doug Casey on Gold.
http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/why-gold-really-is-money/

And another on cannibals. 
http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/governments-are-just-monopolies-on-force/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 31, 2009, 01:06:57 AM
Was Al Gore one of them?  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on December 31, 2009, 01:09:00 AM
They had flashlights back then?  Sorry I could not pass that one up! ;D   Well I must say you would understand IF you want to be a storyteller you have to have a story and the cr__ to go along with it! You know what I mean, mixing a little truth with fiction! ;) Almost like creating the evening news. Give just enough to make them think and hope its LONG and WRONG! ;D


I am not sure if Al Gore was already in the lab inventing the internet back then or not? He might have been on some other holy assignment in his life long quest to save the world. I do believe he waited until the 90's to invent the internet. Next time I see him I will ask! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 31, 2009, 01:34:35 AM
They had flashlights back then?  Sorry I could not pass that one up! ;D   Well I must say you would understand IF you want to be a storyteller you have to have a story and the cr__ to go along with it! You know what I mean, mixing a little truth with fiction! ;) Almost like creating the evening news. Give just enough to make them think and hope its LONG and WRONG! ;D


I am not sure if Al Gore was already in the lab inventing the internet back then or not? He might have been on some other holy assignment in his life long quest to save the world. I do believe he waited until the 90's to invent the internet. Next time I see him I will ask! ;D

Hold on now. How are you going to ask Gore anything if we're all dead? We must be dead if Gordon Brown said we only had  50 days to save the planet from the climate boogie-man. And he said that I believe on Oct 19.

Okay here it is:
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Resource-Wars/2009/10/19/Brown-urges-world-to-break-climate-impasse/UPI-28851255994818/

See we're all dead. And it must be true if Brown said it. He's a politician. And it's all  because of these carbon based heretics breathing all the time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on December 31, 2009, 11:57:15 AM
Damn I have been feeling bad but I guess I just didn't put two and two together. All this time I thought it was my sinuses acting up. And NOW I find out I am dead! Crap I wasn't done with my plans for the summer. What a bummer. This is going to kill my wife when she finds out-----she could have already signed up for my social security while there is still some left!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on December 31, 2009, 02:28:32 PM
Someone in Wash DC just found a simple file cabinet with 'I O U's' in it for $13 TRILLION that the present and past yo-yo's in congress put there while raiding the social security account. Good Lord, not one decent politition.....and never will be!!!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 01, 2010, 12:24:34 AM
Continuous trading into january the first shows me my predictions were prob wrong and the 12 candles cycle since 1999 shortened to 11 candles
In other words the high was in december 2009 allready and if this cycle olds the new high is oct 2010
This is the first prove the desaster train is speeding up as well as gold starting oh so softly into its parabolic rise

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5524/chart2010janm.png

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5524/chart2010janm.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 01, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
(http://www.york.ac.uk/sustainability/images/sub/black-swans.jpg)
What about us?

What if some of the "great moderation" hedge funds start tanking? Isn't it strange how you don't even hear  these gerbils saying the  words "hedge funds" anymore?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 03, 2010, 04:05:28 AM
I plaid around with my scanner this afternoon and photoshop to see what I could do
to make an MS63 lucky angel look better. My conclusion is that my scanner does
not really like the lucky angel.
I cut the angel and put it on a uniform purple background which slight ly improved the look.
One day maybe I will find the time to photograph it . Now it is whisky time

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3053&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 03, 2010, 07:40:29 AM
Is it a male angel?  Maybe your  scanner just likes female angels?  ;D
(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/img/3d5b/silverngold/2m.jpg)

http://www.trendsresearch.com/journal.html
It's an easy read. Check neo-survivalism and TB.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 03, 2010, 07:51:11 AM
Feel free to send all those ugly coins to lifetime free storage in Indiana. My offer will always be there for my good friends throughout the world.
I am like Longnine in a preference for curves! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 03, 2010, 08:54:35 AM
Is it a male angel?  Maybe your  scanner just likes female angels?  ;D

http://www.trendsresearch.com/journal.html
It's an easy read. Check neo-survivalism and TB.


A lucky angel is a Génie which is supposed to be a "sexless" angel
Since it allways has clothing in the way I guess it is not female
On the other hand you may be right ; my scanner liked Marie Jeanne wounds and all

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3054&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 03, 2010, 09:34:44 AM
My how I love some of the coins of the world! If only our engravers would come back out of the dark ages once again!!! :'(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 04, 2010, 11:47:04 PM
For those tracking spot gold
If gold hits 1175 the next few weeks then there is a more then 75% chance we still get a double top
or a new gold high in jan 2010
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 06, 2010, 02:13:57 AM
I am having the best of both worlds for the moment
Dollar and Gold are both up at the same time so I got 1.10% combined today
That is the accumulated intrest of 6 months on my savings account  ::)
Thank you dollar buyers  ;D

I hope my revision was completely premature and we go over 1175 quickly  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 06, 2010, 04:00:08 AM
I watched some movie that I can't remember the name of but there was a Russian, bad guy in it who just wouldn't die. Somebody shot him about five times and when he walked away..."##*&  you" the guy shot him five more times "&@#^  you." The guy put a new clip in  and emptyied  it  into him.  Nothing. Then when he walk away there was still a slight whisper "&^%$ you."  That's what the dollar reminds me of.  It just won't die.

Chris Dodd Shithead--Conn.  announced his retirement. Maybe everything on the planet will rally today.  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 06, 2010, 06:00:27 AM
It reminds me of the question somebody put me sometime ago in view that I was once a close up magician
to earn some pocket money during 5 years
They asked me if I knew how they make a woman levitate ( on stage that is  ::)
Now I don't give those "secrets" away
So they asked me how long the magician can keep it up ( yee depends on his age I guess which they
did not think funny )
So I told them untill the last person walked away from boredom ( cause these systems do not put the strain
on the magician but on the girl )

The dollar seems to be doing the same . Levitate untill the last potential owner changed it
for whatever else  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 06, 2010, 06:43:16 AM
Well as soon as  that hope & change jells, the dollar will go to the moon. But it might do that anyway once all that cash blows out the other end of the  pipe line under ten gillion tons of pressure.  :o

"Nothing came out the other end."
"Pump more in..."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Nevol on January 06, 2010, 07:43:21 AM
I watched some movie that I can't remember the name of but there was a Russian, bad guy in it who just wouldn't die....  That's what the dollar reminds me of.  It just won't die.:D

It may have been about Rasputin. ???  I don't think he was shot that many times though.  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 07, 2010, 12:18:54 AM
Chris Dodd Shithead--Conn.  announced his retirement. Maybe everything on the planet will rally today.  :D
I understand that he has already been offered the position of CEO of one of the big banks in Washington. Wonder how that could happen?

A  perfect example of why "democracy" and "vote the bums out"  is beyond farcical. They don't care. They'll be taken care of.


*******************************************************
"Democracy is the art and science of running the circus
from the monkey cage."

H.L Mencken

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Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 07, 2010, 12:40:14 AM
I watched some movie that I can't remember the name of but there was a Russian, bad guy in it who just wouldn't die....  That's what the dollar reminds me of.  It just won't die.:D

It may have been about Rasputin. ???  I don't think he was shot that many times though.  ::)

No it some kind of British gangster movie. The actor was the same guy who played the old legendary sniper in Shooter--the guy who actually made the shot that they were framing Shooter for. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 07, 2010, 11:34:56 PM
Dharmeye
First you have to set the slowstochs to half the cylce
For the monthly that is 5.3.3
The slow stochs monthly shows below 80% but will show above 80% from 1175$ gold on
In other words the monthly jan slow stoch will only be definitive on jan 31 st
In the meantime I cannot tell whether the 12 candles cycle closed on dec 3rd 2009 or not
Note that the MACD histogram is flat and not giving any indication neither

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3061&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 07, 2010, 11:46:25 PM
The weekly setting should be 7.3.3
Note that the weekly does not give any indication whether we are in the third cyle of a yearly or allready the first cycle of a new yearly
So in other words I am lost till jan 31 st
The new high can be a double top this month or an alltime new high

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3064&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 07, 2010, 11:51:06 PM
The daily settings should be 17.3.3
Note that the daily allows for both a yearly high and a first cycle high too
In other words till the end of january I am totally lost and totally invested

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3067&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 08, 2010, 12:01:18 AM
You said you were jealous I could get coins so easily
I got five coins ; four Marianne Roosters and one Angel below melt last week in an illtimes auction
The vendor now "demands" I agree to his notification to ebay I refused three of the coins
so that he does not have to pay ebay costs on those three coins

I am sick and tired of these shops and profesional vendors that get taken to the cleaners starting at
one euro and then whine I pay paypall or pay at all
They would rather have I pay not so they can try again and again to get better prices

I am going to wait till I have the coins and give him five negatives . The sucker offered 5 angels at melt
he can stuff them were the sun does not shine
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 08, 2010, 12:06:35 AM
Here a Lucky Angel MS63 my scanner does like ( 147 euro ) just arrived

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3070&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 08, 2010, 12:09:24 AM
This is the pleasing photo from the vendor
Less detail and too much red . The lucky angel is NOT a red coin
You should never light a coin from below the face  ???

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3073&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 08, 2010, 11:59:31 PM
This week goldshares advanced three times as much as gold advanced ( in euro )
This could be the beginning of the parabolic move we waited for during 10 years
as well in gold as in goldshares

If you are intrested in this thread dharmaeye please show it because every time
I get problems with stupid ebay vendors I get the blues and I think I just quit posting anything
of value on the stool
GM can have the stool all to himself
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 09, 2010, 02:12:56 AM
Old Dan

Of course I keep posting
I just re affirmed that this is my home and I will not post anything anymore on the stool of any real value
that can be reposted by any plagiater under their own name .

Dharmaeye is a regular poster on the stool and an investor and he requested entrance here to see my charts
and he requested me to start this thread : so at least I expect some questions/answers/interactions from the person that requested the thread : since most of the stuff I post
is so technical that only chartists can understand it

In short I am lost in my long term cycle till the end of january when statistics close for the month . We go higher in gold but whether the high was on dec 3rd 2009 or a double top or new high comes this january , I do not know.
I expect a new high either oct or nov 2010 of around 1350 $ - 1400 $ an ounce
I also have indications that the gold rise is heating up and we may expect to do better then common targets from now on .
For the first time in 15 years my shares are doing 3 times gain of gold gain which is a sure indication intrest is growing .

If there is no other chartist on the forum however I can keep things a lot simpler then posting complicated charts
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 09, 2010, 03:24:58 AM
The beauty of what we really find here is the mere fact individuals and collectors have come together to share what they perceive as the TRUTH about our hobby, our investments, and our passion. In my mind that is PRICELESS!!!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 09, 2010, 05:00:23 AM
George V full sovereign ( as if there were half empty sovereigns  :D )
MS63 ( the smudge on the cheeck will solvent away , but it is too cold to play with acetone now)
I was stupid enough to pay 3% over melt but melt went up enough this week and I paid paypal
with a credit card  8)

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3078&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 09, 2010, 11:12:46 PM
The first bank this week to go has very bad internals
About half of their capitals was pure lies

Quote
Yesterday evening the FDIC released information regarding the first bank closure of 2010 – Horizon Bank of Bellingham, Washington. The statistics regarding this closure are terrible. If it is indicative of things to come it will be a very rough year for the FDIC.

According to the FDIC, Horizon Bank had $1.1 billion in deposits and balance sheet assets of $1.3 billion; yet the FDIC’s estimated cost to close the bank is $539.1 million. That means the real market value of Horizon’s assets is believed to be about $561 million – 41.5% of the value claimed. As has become the norm, the FDIC had to enter into a loss-share transaction with respect to $1.0 billion of the assets purchased, meaning there is significant concern the assets will turn out to be worth even less than presently estimated.

This cost of closing this bank amounted to 49% of the value of Horizon’s deposits – the highest relative cost seen so far in this crisis. By way of comparison, the cost of closing the first three banks in this crisis (in late 2007) was about 5.7% of deposits.

Pretend and extend is proving to be a very costly strategy.   
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 10, 2010, 03:47:37 AM
The first bank this week to go has very bad internals
About half of their capitals was pure lies
A little more on this situation;
This bank was just a 'front' for several other Banks in Wahington and they are now in danger of the same fate.  Here is an announcement from the CEO of Horizon Financial Corp.:

Quote
Article: Horizon Bank Accepts Resignation of Chief Lending Officer.

(FinancialWire via COMTEX) -- (Comment on this article at http://www.financialwire.net/2009/11/18/horizon-bank-accepts-resignation-of-chief-lending-officer/)

Horizon Financial Corp., the bank holding company for Horizon Bank (Bank), reported that the Bank has accepted the resignation of Steven L. Hoekstra, executive vice president and Chief Lending officer.

Hoekstra was responsible for the Bank's commercial lending operations from June 2002 to the present. The members of the current management have assumed the duties of this position.
I'm betting that management never lost a dime in this deal... Oh yes, they also fired one of the janitors!

That is the problem with banks . They cannot fire research and development and they probably allready fired
everybody in office supplies  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 10, 2010, 06:07:27 AM
This is a blow under the belt of the banksters
Move your money

http://moveyourmoney.info/


Quote
People all over the country are choosing to move their money out of bigger banks and into smaller, community-oriented financial institutions that generally avoided the reckless investments and schemes that helped cause the financial crisis.
Fueled by the personal initiatives of thousands, it’s a grassroots effort that has the potential to shift power in the financial system away from Wall Street and to Main Street.
Check out the video, read up on what inspired the idea, connect with others through Facebook and Twitter and then use the tools and links provided to find a community bank or credit union in your area. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 10, 2010, 07:56:58 AM
Perhaps this is the beginning of a world wide financial revolution that is WAY PAST due? The crooks have ran things so long, under the direction of all the governments they bought and paid for, thats the reason government and taxpayers had to bail them out! They are all sleeping in the same bed together!!! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 10, 2010, 11:25:00 PM
So goes GM so goes America
Now second in the world

China Ends U.S.’s Reign as Largest Auto Market (Update2)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aE.x_r_l9NZE&pos=3
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 10, 2010, 11:32:26 PM
And gold went up in Australia to 1159.95 us$  ::)
If 1174 falls soon : we still got the fireworks this month

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 11, 2010, 08:56:32 AM
Marianne Rooster MS64/65
Look at those cartwheels
All for melt minus 4% ( A nice surprise in a batch of 4 MS coins )

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3081&g2_serialNumber=1)



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 11, 2010, 09:00:48 AM
And the Swisse counterpart
Also MS64/65 at 4% below melt
Boy got that vendor screwed by no bidders and ebay costs

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3084&g2_serialNumber=1)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on January 11, 2010, 03:31:49 PM
P Y W, it sure seems like you might be right on gold and silver. It seems that the commercial building foreclosures are rapidly mounting in this state and I'm assuming other states also. Yep, the bubble is going to burst! Also, TRUE inflation is right around the corner. I say 'True' because the U S guv'ment says that the 'core' inflation is level. Their 'core' does not include food or fuel. Why not include those items? To fool the masses, which they are pretty good at doing. (Gasoline went up 14% in the last 2 weeks.)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 11, 2010, 08:24:05 PM
P Y W, it sure seems like you might be right on gold and silver. It seems that the commercial building foreclosures are rapidly mounting in this state and I'm assuming other states also. Yep, the bubble is going to burst! Also, TRUE inflation is right around the corner. I say 'True' because the U S guv'ment says that the 'core' inflation is level. Their 'core' does not include food or fuel. Why not include those items? To fool the masses, which they are pretty good at doing. (Gasoline went up 14% in the last 2 weeks.)

The Chinese who have the luxury of choice are raising intrest rates .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 11, 2010, 08:33:30 PM
Sure like that Swisse gold!  Those old boys know how to use good design elements, nothing fancy but beautifull.

Yes I like the braided mountain girl. Did you notice the collar of edelweiss ( the white mountain flower) also braided and used as a collier ?
There is also a variant were they kind of polished the skyline to pseudo prooflike shine ; but I like this
uniform soft glow better .
These coins are struck to the Latin Union standard of 5.8 gram at 0.900 purity
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 12, 2010, 03:10:17 AM
My oh my
The chinese are overheating and we are undercooling
Lucky for us the chinese are buying gold
Can someone send helicopter ben for a quick course in money management ?

Quote
Jan. 12 (Bloomberg) -- China unexpectedly raised the proportion of deposits that banks must set aside as reserves to cool the world’s fastest-growing major economy as a credit boom threatens to stoke inflation and create asset bubbles.   

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahHL2F10BqD0&pos=2
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 12, 2010, 05:56:51 AM
haha

It was just announced that the worst Euro country is Greece followed by Italy with Belgium in third place
But our ministers are going to build on the new economic relance to start rectifying the situation

Belgiums main problem is that out of about 7 banks it has , it saved three banks at an enormous cost  ??? ??? ???
Where did I hear that one before  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 12, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
My oh my
The chinese are overheating and we are undercooling
Lucky for us the chinese are buying gold
Can someone send helicopter ben for a quick course in money management ?

Quote
Jan. 12 (Bloomberg) -- China unexpectedly raised the proportion of deposits that banks must set aside as reserves to cool the world’s fastest-growing major economy as a credit boom threatens to stoke inflation and create asset bubbles.   

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ahHL2F10BqD0&pos=2

Even their condoms must be cheap ass recaps or something. Last I heard china needed 8% GDP just to put new entries into the work force each year. Controlling 200 million 18-25 year olds without jobs won't be same as sending in troops to move grandma and grandpa off the farm.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 12, 2010, 07:11:13 AM
P Y W, it sure seems like you might be right on gold and silver. It seems that the commercial building foreclosures are rapidly mounting in this state and I'm assuming other states also. Yep, the bubble is going to burst! Also, TRUE inflation is right around the corner. I say 'True' because the U S guv'ment says that the 'core' inflation is level. Their 'core' does not include food or fuel. Why not include those items? To fool the masses, which they are pretty good at doing. (Gasoline went up 14% in the last 2 weeks.)

It's the same method of lying that they always use. They just flip the truth around 180 degrees. The "core" inflation rate is everything that is not the core. Food, energy and housing are the core because it's what people actually need to survive. Just take their "good news" and divide it by 3 and take their bad news and multiply by 3 and you'll get pretty close to what the truth is. Nine percent  unemplyment X 3 = 27%

Everyone is wiping their brow and saying whew wee glad that's over with. They don't even know there's a tsunami on the way. All they felt was the tremors.

Just ask yourself if you really believe that 30 years of abuse can be fixed in 2 years? If you can answer yes then ask yourself what did they  fix? All I've seen them do is reward the very criminals and retards who caused the mess in the first place so that they now have an incentive to keep on screwing it up even more.  And believe me, they will.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 12, 2010, 08:26:48 AM
I am sooooooooooo glad their are other people in the world who see things like I do ;)

I had a fellow, just today, who said I was one of those conspiracy theorists, as he tried to ridicule my beliefs on what is happening in the world. I politely told him I appreciated the compliment and to think of me in about 3 years when everything we have ever been told is proven to be orchastrated lies. Of course, when the time comes, he won't be thinking of me near as much as saving his own ass!!! ;D

I see the Vatican is condemming the movie Avatar because those folks were actually worshipping REAL THINGS in nature. Guess we aren't supposed to appreciate and believe in REAL things. Only that which is governed and manifested by the church in the world of supernatural is accepted. Wonder why they at the Vatican worship MONEY AND ART? Are they real or just a figment of our imagination?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 12, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
The mexican flu had only two goals
1) Distract people from the economy
2) Make some money for pharmacy after the banks were served

Quote
‘False Pandemic’

Council of Europe parliamentarian Wolfgang Wodarg said last week he and several colleagues had called for a commission of inquiry into a “false pandemic” and the way it was handled at national and European levels, claiming pressure from pharmaceutical firms, Agence France-Presse reported yesterday. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=a8uR.Ic3MR_k
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 12, 2010, 08:11:48 PM
my oh my

According to eurostat Greeces figures for the last five years about government
deficits are incorrect because of political pressures on the gatherers of information

The 2009 deficit was revised from 3.7% to more then 12%

The European Comission is rumoured to start legal procedings ( which allready happened before
in 2004 )

ref in flemish
http://www.tijd.be/nieuws/buitenland/-Griekenland_knoeide_met_statistieken-.8282297-439.art
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 13, 2010, 04:21:51 AM
I am sooooooooooo glad their are other people in the world who see things like I do ;)

Yah, but don't that scare the heck out of you when you get to thinking about it?

HEY!!!!!!  ;D

BTW, is it just me or is Hollywood  putting out a number of movies that always feature  some of kind voluntary self sacrifice of an  Individual for the sake of the Collective? In Transformers the SR71 Decepticon that changed sides was even eager to sacrifice "his parts" so  Optimus Prime could save the world.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 13, 2010, 04:26:44 AM
my oh my

According to eurostat Greeces figures for the last five years about government
deficits are incorrect because of political pressures on the gatherers of information

The 2009 deficit was revised from 3.7% to more then 12%

The European Comission is rumoured to start legal procedings ( which allready happened before
in 2004 )

ref in flemish
http://www.tijd.be/nieuws/buitenland/-Griekenland_knoeide_met_statistieken-.8282297-439.art

Look what happens when you multiply their good news by three:
3 X 3.7%= 11.1% Pretty close huh?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 13, 2010, 03:15:54 PM
Old Dan

Of course I keep posting
I just re affirmed that this is my home and I will not post anything anymore on the stool of any real value
that can be reposted by any plagiater under their own name .

Dharmaeye is a regular poster on the stool and an investor and he requested entrance here to see my charts
and he requested me to start this thread : so at least I expect some questions/answers/interactions from the person that requested the thread : since most of the stuff I post
is so technical that only chartists can understand it

In short I am lost in my long term cycle till the end of january when statistics close for the month . We go higher in gold but whether the high was on dec 3rd 2009 or a double top or new high comes this january , I do not know.
I expect a new high either oct or nov 2010 of around 1350 $ - 1400 $ an ounce
I also have indications that the gold rise is heating up and we may expect to do better then common targets from now on .
For the first time in 15 years my shares are doing 3 times gain of gold gain which is a sure indication intrest is growing .

If there is no other chartist on the forum however I can keep things a lot simpler then posting complicated charts


I'm back and will get into the habit of regularly visiting and participating. Yesterday January I bailed out of all but one of my PM stock positions.  Didn't like the way things weakened.Today it looks like a possible head and shoulders pattern with today the right shoulder.
Expect some sort of top soon in the general stock market. Preparing to reverse positions. Have a lot of Canadian oil/ gas royalty trusts would sell. I expect alot of thrashing around in the markets for some time - years.  My physical remains my only constant and will be added to on an expected retest - in the spring (1000-1040?).
I'm turning 60 this month and plan to trade towards income.
Will start adding links as things progress but there is a multi-dimensional Fib analysis that suggests this Friday (15) may be a top. March 1 is a big Bradley date which would serve as a bottom? or a top? March is usually an active month.
I am a major fan of PYW coin pictures. I have not seen anyone who does them such justice. So keep them coming.... Please ;D
Got to figure out attaching charts here next.
Stuart


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 12:58:03 AM
Old Dan

Of course I keep posting
I just re affirmed that this is my home and I will not post anything anymore on the stool of any real value
that can be reposted by any plagiater under their own name .

Dharmaeye is a regular poster on the stool and an investor and he requested entrance here to see my charts
and he requested me to start this thread : so at least I expect some questions/answers/interactions from the person that requested the thread : since most of the stuff I post
is so technical that only chartists can understand it

In short I am lost in my long term cycle till the end of january when statistics close for the month . We go higher in gold but whether the high was on dec 3rd 2009 or a double top or new high comes this january , I do not know.
I expect a new high either oct or nov 2010 of around 1350 $ - 1400 $ an ounce
I also have indications that the gold rise is heating up and we may expect to do better then common targets from now on .
For the first time in 15 years my shares are doing 3 times gain of gold gain which is a sure indication intrest is growing .

If there is no other chartist on the forum however I can keep things a lot simpler then posting complicated charts


I'm back and will get into the habit of regularly visiting and participating. Yesterday January I bailed out of all but one of my PM stock positions.  Didn't like the way things weakened.Today it looks like a possible head and shoulders pattern with today the right shoulder.
Expect some sort of top soon in the general stock market. Preparing to reverse positions. Have a lot of Canadian oil/ gas royalty trusts would sell. I expect alot of thrashing around in the markets for some time - years.  My physical remains my only constant and will be added to on an expected retest - in the spring (1000-1040?).
I'm turning 60 this month and plan to trade towards income.
Will start adding links as things progress but there is a multi-dimensional Fib analysis that suggests this Friday (15) may be a top. March 1 is a big Bradley date which would serve as a bottom? or a top? March is usually an active month.
I am a major fan of PYW coin pictures. I have not seen anyone who does them such justice. So keep them coming.... Please ;D
Got to figure out attaching charts here next.
Stuart

Stuart
This forum has a very good chart savings annex called the members Photo gallery
You may have to ask TKO for entrance .( you upload there and copy paste here the identities link )
http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php

I will be 63 this year but have no nerves left so I am full in ( means still got all my trading positions)
50% physical gold and 35% shares 15% cash
At this point I am trying to up my shares part and rotate from majors like Anglogold into lesser gods
like Great basin gold and Oceana and lower if I can find any

I still do not know whether december 3rd was the "yearly" high or whether we get an higher high in
january . Statistically I will only know when gold goes or does not go over 1174 $ an ounce again

In short ; either we get a price explosion the next 14 days or we are looking at a dec 3rd top with a
march low to follow.

If you are intrested maybe we could set up a chart gallery with simple conclusions and a goldcoins gallery with general guidelines

I started at one ounce coins and then half ounce coins and am now kind of finishing with Latin Union coins
wich are 5.8 grams of pure gold at 0.900 purity. If gold goes over  1000 euro I stop buying since my target
is 1200 minimum

We should try and invite whadda
Seven of Eleven's mother is dying so he is kind of out of this for the moment

August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 01:12:31 AM
These may well be the last gold days before the public sees the advantages of gold
I am haggling with three parties that inherited some common MS coins and want
to get rid of them as fast as possible
The first party is having a religeous experience on ebay below melt with paypal costs
The second still has to send pics
The third is still trying to find out if ebay pays more

I am just waiting bidding melt on MS63 plus coins that I selected as being of intrest to me
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 14, 2010, 01:26:32 AM
Old Dan

Of course I keep posting
I just re affirmed that this is my home and I will not post anything anymore on the stool of any real value
that can be reposted by any plagiater under their own name .

Dharmaeye is a regular poster on the stool and an investor and he requested entrance here to see my charts
and he requested me to start this thread : so at least I expect some questions/answers/interactions from the person that requested the thread : since most of the stuff I post
is so technical that only chartists can understand it

In short I am lost in my long term cycle till the end of january when statistics close for the month . We go higher in gold but whether the high was on dec 3rd 2009 or a double top or new high comes this january , I do not know.
I expect a new high either oct or nov 2010 of around 1350 $ - 1400 $ an ounce
I also have indications that the gold rise is heating up and we may expect to do better then common targets from now on .
For the first time in 15 years my shares are doing 3 times gain of gold gain which is a sure indication intrest is growing .

If there is no other chartist on the forum however I can keep things a lot simpler then posting complicated charts


I'm back and will get into the habit of regularly visiting and participating. Yesterday January I bailed out of all but one of my PM stock positions.  Didn't like the way things weakened.Today it looks like a possible head and shoulders pattern with today the right shoulder.
Expect some sort of top soon in the general stock market. Preparing to reverse positions. Have a lot of Canadian oil/ gas royalty trusts would sell. I expect alot of thrashing around in the markets for some time - years.  My physical remains my only constant and will be added to on an expected retest - in the spring (1000-1040?).
I'm turning 60 this month and plan to trade towards income.
Will start adding links as things progress but there is a multi-dimensional Fib analysis that suggests this Friday (15) may be a top. March 1 is a big Bradley date which would serve as a bottom? or a top? March is usually an active month.
I am a major fan of PYW coin pictures. I have not seen anyone who does them such justice. So keep them coming.... Please ;D
Got to figure out attaching charts here next.
Stuart

Stuart
This forum has a very good chart savings annex called the members Photo gallery
You may have to ask TKO for entrance .( you upload there and copy paste here the identities link )
http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php

I will be 63 this year but have no nerves left so I am full in ( means still got all my trading positions)
50% physical gold and 35% shares 15% cash
At this point I am trying to up my shares part and rotate from majors like Anglogold into lesser gods
like Great basin gold and Oceana and lower if I can find any

I still do not know whether december 3rd was the "yearly" high or whether we get an higher high in
january . Statistically I will only know when gold goes or does not go over 1174 $ an ounce again

In short ; either we get a price explosion the next 14 days or we are looking at a dec 3rd top with a
march low to follow.

If you are intrested maybe we could set up a chart gallery with simple conclusions and a goldcoins gallery with general guidelines

I started at one ounce coins and then half ounce coins and am now kind of finishing with Latin Union coins
wich are 5.8 grams of pure gold at 0.900 purity. If gold goes over  1000 euro I stop buying since my target
is 1200 minimum

We should try and invite whadda
Seven of Eleven's mother is dying so he is kind of out of this for the moment

August

Yeah I was supprised at your going below one troy ounce coins - seem to remember your wife scoffing at anything below an ounce ;D I want variety of size as tradeability is important. If gold goes BIG like I suspect gets harder to sell large denominations. That's what's great about silver.

It looks like I did post a chart - seasonal gold. There just was not a step from browse? or is the link getting chart from my computer when I log in? Chart indicates end of gold run historically is January 21.

Would like to communicate with Seven of Eleven as I moved back to Calgary to help my parents. They were divorced over 25 years ago and are both in their mid eighties and getting fragile. Have worked in Hospice settings. Was at my mother place last night. She gave me about a pound of coins she collected from her world travel. Europe, Central/ south America...included three odd triangular coins from some place off New Zealand? Got some researching to do.

Stuart




Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 14, 2010, 02:15:09 AM
I'm betting this just might be the source of the Sachbags "talent." Just maybe, just a wee bit maybe.

********************************************************
'“...You have no idea,” said a source we won’t divulge, “how much control the bankers – especially Goldman Sachs – have on government. They have their men in the key positions. And every politician and bureaucrat knows that if he goes along with the game he could one day get a job at Goldman and make millions. And I’m not just talking about the US. It’s true of many other countries too. Goldman is international. And they’ve got their men in decisive posts in many countries...”'

Bill Bonner--Daily Reckoning 1/13/10
*********************************************************
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 02:37:52 AM
 I read american MBA graduates still flock in droves to golden sack because they think the hype is
going to blow over and the bonusses are good  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 02:39:55 AM
Stuart

A man with is head in an oven and his feet in a block of northpole ice will be on average a
comfortable 22 C
There are lies there are damn lies and then there are statistics
In any given year the seasonal charts apart from the summer dolldrums mean zip

I know my gold coins and grading gold coins . There are people on this forum that will know
all other coins . So if you are intrested post a pic and ask for ID

I will ask Seven about communication

August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 02:47:58 AM
Ouch today
The only green stock I got is minefinders
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 02:58:02 AM
Ah
These guys claim a lot of fake gold bars were made in the US and even shipped to china
Tungsten is high tech to work with

http://www.daily.pk/fake-gold-bars-in-bank-of-england-and-fort-knox-14477/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 14, 2010, 03:09:17 AM
Stuart

A man with is head in an oven and his feet in a block of northpole ice will be on average a
comfortable 22 C
There are lies there are damn lies and then there are statistics
In any given year the seasonal charts apart from the summer dolldrums mean zip

I know my gold coins and grading gold coins . There are people on this forum that will know
all other coins . So if you are intrested post a pic and ask for ID

I will ask Seven about communication

August


Just a possible guideline.
People are creatures of habit.  (Was a Psychologist in the 70's)
 
Stuart
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 03:26:57 AM
Stuart

A man with is head in an oven and his feet in a block of northpole ice will be on average a
comfortable 22 C
There are lies there are damn lies and then there are statistics
In any given year the seasonal charts apart from the summer dolldrums mean zip

I know my gold coins and grading gold coins . There are people on this forum that will know
all other coins . So if you are intrested post a pic and ask for ID

I will ask Seven about communication

August


Just a possible guideline.
People are creatures of habit.  (Was a Psychologist in the 70's)
 
Stuart

Hehe we got that in common
In 1981 I graduated as an MBA with the major in Organisational Psychology and the minor in Investments
Northwestern or Kellogs university
But I will allways stay an Engineer with Statistics as major and Chemical unit operations as minor  ;D
Louvain 1971

I have allways been called a sarcastical paranoid by my bosses .  ::) because I thought they were out to
get the blood from under my fingernails and press the lemon dry
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 14, 2010, 03:30:55 AM
Ah
These guys claim a lot of fake gold bars were made in the US and even shipped to china
Tungsten is high tech to work with

http://www.daily.pk/fake-gold-bars-in-bank-of-england-and-fort-knox-14477/

"In October of 2009 the Chinese received a shipment of gold bars. Gold is regularly exchanges between countries to pay debts and to settle the so-called balance of trade."

That doesn't sound right. I though they did away with physical gold settlements decades ago?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 03:36:38 AM
Ah
These guys claim a lot of fake gold bars were made in the US and even shipped to china
Tungsten is high tech to work with

http://www.daily.pk/fake-gold-bars-in-bank-of-england-and-fort-knox-14477/

"In October of 2009 the Chinese received a shipment of gold bars. Gold is regularly exchanges between countries to pay debts and to settle the so-called balance of trade."

That doesn't sound right. I though they did away with physical gold settlements decades ago?

The explanation is bogus but the chinese were in a position to demand gold and maybe they got tungsten
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 14, 2010, 08:11:45 AM
When you go beyond the filthy rich and throw in some power and politics the same laws DO NOT apply to them! It is us little guys that have to follow all the rules and regulations. Buy gold and silver and HIDE your wealth. They ain't gettin' it all!!!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 09:17:29 AM
When you go beyond the filthy rich and throw in some power and politics the same laws DO NOT apply to them! It is us little guys that have to follow all the rules and regulations. Buy gold and silver and HIDE your wealth. They ain't gettin' it all!!!

Oh 
I think the central banks have quiet empty vaults , they are never audited , they carry the gold on the books
lend out to golmensacks and the like and never going to see it back
Wolfram may be better the nothing
Come to think of  it : a pitty it is not niodymium rare earth metal
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 14, 2010, 09:55:40 PM
Hehe
Without knowing they choose the same coindesign as Weimar had  ::)

Quote
New Lincoln penny, unveiled here, to feature union shield
CIGA Eric

The U.S. Commission of Fine Arts (a group that includes architects, art experts and others who make their livings creating pretty things) first recommended that 13 stalks of bound wheat decorate the back of the 2010 penny. Then, however, someone discovered that shafts of wheat also appeared on German coins minted during the 1920s and 1930s, the era when the German government was known as the Weimar Republic.

With history repeating, they should have went with it.

Source: http://www.sj-r.com
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 15, 2010, 12:42:52 AM
Ah
These guys claim a lot of fake gold bars were made in the US and even shipped to china
Tungsten is high tech to work with

http://www.daily.pk/fake-gold-bars-in-bank-of-england-and-fort-knox-14477/

"In October of 2009 the Chinese received a shipment of gold bars. Gold is regularly exchanges between countries to pay debts and to settle the so-called balance of trade."

That doesn't sound right. I though they did away with physical gold settlements decades ago?

The explanation is bogus but the chinese were in a position to demand gold and maybe they got tungsten

Maybe they were replicas that someone forgot to mark as copies? They should understand how easy it is to forgot that :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 01:48:57 AM
If you do not like the good stuff ; we will send you tungsten
and don't forget , tungsten has more use then printed paper  ;D

(http://i47.tinypic.com/1z2lzyd.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 15, 2010, 01:56:55 AM
Why doesn't Ole Benny Boop go over there and "monetize" the tungsten. Then It's the real thing...

I'd like to build a baboon den
and furnish it with Bens,
grow carbon tax trees,
add some debt slave bees
and Baucas mandated Prozac...
 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 02:06:34 AM
Why doesn't Ole Benny Boop go over there and "monetize" the tungsten. Then It's the real thing...

I'd like to build a baboon den
and furnish it with Bens,
grow carbon tax trees,
add some debt slave bees
and Baucas mandated Prozac...
 

In the meantime it is expiration day again and gold is being slaughtered
I am running out of anti acids
I tried a bottle of Australian white Chardonay " Waratah" wine which is being pushed by the local hypermarket
Maybe the glass of the bottle does not digest too well  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 15, 2010, 02:11:48 AM
If you do not like the good stuff ; we will send you tungsten
and don't forget , tungsten has more use then printed paper  ;D

(http://i47.tinypic.com/1z2lzyd.jpg)

What are they whining about. They could always  use the tungsten to strengthen the armor on their Titananmen square tanks.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 15, 2010, 02:24:24 AM
Why doesn't Ole Benny Boop go over there and "monetize" the tungsten. Then It's the real thing...

I'd like to build a baboon den
and furnish it with Bens,
grow carbon tax trees,
add some debt slave bees
and Baucas mandated Prozac...
 

In the meantime it is expiration day again and gold is being slaughtered
I am running out of anti acids
I tried a bottle of Australian white Chardonay " Waratah" wine which is being pushed by the local hypermarket
Maybe the glass of the bottle does not digest too well  :P


I think my next door neighbor is getting close to an expiration day. He's been building a 10 x 10 addition for six months now and cuts a piece of wood with a skill saw about every two minutes--- DUDE, BUY A  @#$*ING TAPE MEASURE!   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
Quote
I think my next door neighbor is getting close to an expiration day. He's been building a 10 x 10 addition for six months now and cuts a piece of wood with a skill saw about every two minutes--- DUDE, BUY A  @#$*ING TAPE MEASURE!   Grin 


You mean it refuses to get longer after cutting it 10 times ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 15, 2010, 03:20:21 AM
He must  be undercover for the treasury.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 03:21:55 AM
Some eyecandy from a hot country
MS63 melt plus 2%
Same specs as a sovereign
I do not really like these LCD screens .The pic looks better at the top of the screen with the screen
slightly tilted backwards
I am getting a cramp in my neck from looking at it for best optics  ???

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3087&g2_serialNumber=1)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 15, 2010, 03:26:37 AM
Quote
I think my next door neighbor is getting close to an expiration day. He's been building a 10 x 10 addition for six months now and cuts a piece of wood with a skill saw about every two minutes--- DUDE, BUY A  @#$*ING TAPE MEASURE!   Grin  


You mean it refuses to get longer after cutting it 10 times ?

He might me the guy who taught Geithner everything he knows.

Guess  I'm going to have to dig out some Jimi Hendrix tunes to entertain him with while he's having dinner. I can put the Woodstock version of  the Star Spangled Banner on repeat play just before leaving for work. It'll play on forever unless there's a power surge. And I won't even be there when the neighbors show up with torches and pitch forks.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 15, 2010, 03:34:12 AM
Some eyecandy from a hot country
MS63 melt plus 2%
Same specs as a sovereign
I do not really like these LCD screens .The pic looks better at the top of the screen with the screen
slightly tilted backwards
I am getting a cramp in my neck from looking at it for best optics  ???

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3087&g2_serialNumber=1)

The reverse looks a lot like the reverse on a Krugerrand I owned once. I bought it just before Carter banned their imports. I should have sold that sucker when the Russians invade Afganistan and gold went up to $800. Instead I held on to it believing the 80's would be run away inflation just like the 70's. Oh well, I think I still made a couple of hundred bucks on though when I finally sold it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 03:47:57 AM
The antilope is the same as on a kruger
The text however not .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 03:51:31 AM
Quote
I think my next door neighbor is getting close to an expiration day. He's been building a 10 x 10 addition for six months now and cuts a piece of wood with a skill saw about every two minutes--- DUDE, BUY A  @#$*ING TAPE MEASURE!   Grin  


You mean it refuses to get longer after cutting it 10 times ?

He might me the guy who taught Geithner everything he knows.

Guess  I'm going to have to dig out some Jimi Hendrix tunes to entertain him with while he's having dinner. I can put the Woodstock version of  the Star Spangled Banner on repeat play just before leaving for work. It'll play on forever unless there's a power surge. And I won't even be there when the neighbors show up with torches and pitch forks.  ;D

I have woodstock on album and on two different videos . Maybe you should put your big screen TV in the window and put that skinny dipping scene on continuous play . That way he might saw off a few fingers
and you would have a silent mob in front of your house ; waiting for you to come on and put the film on run ; so they could see the rest of it  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 15, 2010, 09:16:13 AM
From "roger reynolds" <randkreynolds@usa.net>   Click to enlarge
Bottom of 4 at 1000?

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 09:20:12 AM
I will stay confused untill we have a new all time high or untill the month of january is over
whichever comes first .
In the meantime I am still buying as if there is no tomorrow
I do not want this thing to go parabolic, hyperbolic , ballistic , exponential or whatever without me  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 09:14:40 PM
The week in pictures

Bankers ; two of them have even trouble raising their hand properly

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FK8ie39EI/AAAAAAAALD8/Xz1-dIeRc-I/s400/bankers1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 09:16:33 PM
What a good life he had has a child ; bread and meat

Quote
"The details of my life are quite inconsequential. My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15-year-old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring, we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard, really."
 

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FBm5DfAUI/AAAAAAAALDs/J93p92WV5zw/s400/dr_evil.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 15, 2010, 09:18:59 PM
Quote
Up Next: A Pop on the Long End of the Yield Curve

Well the yield curve can pop any day for me; allthough I am sure the FED will try to surpress
anyone from seeing the interest rising

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FQx4HRN7I/AAAAAAAALEE/j66Plryi-vQ/s400/liz_claman_pokies_0605.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 16, 2010, 11:47:09 AM
Sorry this post "was actually" a mis-event that didn't really happen. I'd send my white house press secretary out but I don't have one.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 16, 2010, 11:59:25 AM
Quote
Up Next: A Pop on the Long End of the Yield Curve

Well the yield curve can pop any day for me; allthough I am sure the FED will try to surpress
anyone from seeing the interest rising

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FQx4HRN7I/AAAAAAAALEE/j66Plryi-vQ/s400/liz_claman_pokies_0605.jpg)

Those nips are a buy. Maybe they'll drive the yields back down?  ;D

"We don't need no concave bonds yields,
we don't need no thought control,
no dark sarcasms from them gold bugs,
hey! gold bugs, leave them yields alone."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 16, 2010, 12:04:26 PM
The week in pictures

Bankers ; two of them have even trouble raising their hand properly

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FK8ie39EI/AAAAAAAALD8/Xz1-dIeRc-I/s400/bankers1.jpg)

Mongo looks a lot like Ken Lay but without the baboon grin.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 16, 2010, 12:16:28 PM
The week in pictures

Bankers ; two of them have even trouble raising their hand properly

Maybe if they don't break the plane it doesn't count?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FK8ie39EI/AAAAAAAALD8/Xz1-dIeRc-I/s400/bankers1.jpg)
[/quote]
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 17, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Quote
Up Next: A Pop on the Long End of the Yield Curve

Well the yield curve can pop any day for me; allthough I am sure the FED will try to surpress
anyone from seeing the interest rising

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FQx4HRN7I/AAAAAAAALEE/j66Plryi-vQ/s400/liz_claman_pokies_0605.jpg)

Those nips are a buy. Maybe they'll drive the yields back down?  ;D

"We don't need no concave bonds yields,
we don't need no thought control,
no dark sarcasms from them gold bugs,
hey! gold bugs, leave them yields alone."

Actually this is one of the few songs I do not need to take out my 500 LP collection to look up
The wall / another brick in the wall / Teache leave them kids alone

I heard it for 3 weeks on IBIZA where there was a discotheque who played it back to back all the time without any other songs
There was another discotheque who had all Beatles songs played live on an electric violin ( awesome superb)

Sea , sex and sun ( and discotheques for three weeks ) Oh ; I had my wife with me  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 17, 2010, 12:38:10 AM
(http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/clip_image001_thumb6.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 17, 2010, 01:04:29 AM
The week in pictures

Bankers ; two of them have even trouble raising their hand properly

Maybe if they don't break the plane it doesn't count?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1FK8ie39EI/AAAAAAAALD8/Xz1-dIeRc-I/s400/bankers1.jpg)
It's not a joking matter when you try and straighten up your fingers after a hard days work at the bank.
[/quote]

If he's a "talented" banker that roll would  just be  what he stole on his way up from the parking garage.   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 17, 2010, 01:10:23 AM

Sea , sex and sun ( and discotheques for three weeks ) Oh ; I had my wife with me  ;D

Would that be the French French Riviera?  8) They liked Donna Summer when I was there. It seemed all of Europe like Donna Summer then.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 17, 2010, 02:20:34 AM

Sea , sex and sun ( and discotheques for three weeks ) Oh ; I had my wife with me  ;D

Would that be the French French Riviera?  8) They liked Donna Summer when I was there. It seemed all of Europe like Donna Summer then.

Nope ; it is a spanish island in de mediterenian
Spain has like 6 islands Gran Canaria , Tenerife ( been on both ) and a small one all three in front of Africa
Temp all year around is like 20 to 27 C
They made the film 2000 BC with Raquel Welsh on Tenerife
In the Mediterean Sea
Mallorca ( was there on honeymoon and 5 times after ) Minorca and Ibiza ( was there once )
Ibiza was the all nude beaches european jet set island with disco day and night
The only reason I did not go back is because I like my food to be superb and it was not on Ibiza
The music was great though

Donna Summer was well liked allover Europe
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 17, 2010, 10:01:25 AM
Yes indeed,  I have fond memories about  Mallorca, Palma and Valencia.  I still have a change purse that I bought in either Mallorca or Palma to carry foreign coins in.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 17, 2010, 11:15:36 PM
The gold oppressors are at the same extremes they were in nov 2007
We are going to make or break the price of gold the next two weeks for
several months to come

http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Gold-COT-1-12-2009.pdf
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 17, 2010, 11:17:10 PM
A new moneylosing gold mines is growing hopes
Aurora

http://www.miningmx.com/news/gold_and_silver/Aurora-buys-DRDGOLD-ERPM-plan.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 17, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
The german collective of ebay sellers is a good indicator which is often very rigth

5050 goldcoins for sale in 101 pages
107 -111 pages are panic selling all time highs after filtering out all the crap

The collective expects a gold high the next 7 days

My position is unchanged : if we do not get a double top or a new high before the end
of January ; I may have to revise my statistics by one month declaring an high on dec 3 rd
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 18, 2010, 12:15:29 AM
The gold oppressors are at the same extremes they were in nov 2007
We are going to make or break the price of gold the next two weeks for
several months to come

http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Gold-COT-1-12-2009.pdf

The small speculators look pretty calm while the "talented" money managers look like a bunch of squirrels on crack.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 18, 2010, 12:26:31 AM
A new moneylosing gold mines is growing hopes
Aurora

http://www.miningmx.com/news/gold_and_silver/Aurora-buys-DRDGOLD-ERPM-plan.htm

Maybe the "Hope and Change" can buy up that one.

 I don't know jack about gold mines or gold mining stocks but seeing the word "empowerment" as part of  a business name for a gold mine run by Mandela's grandson is not exactly comforting. That's one of big problems I have about mine stocks. I have a problem with any kind of stocks (which is just a short hand  word for CEO compensation packages)  but especially mines since they are so often in another country and subject to political shake downs.

Why buy over seas stock when I can just let the Imperial Leprechaun shake me down every pay day?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 18, 2010, 03:38:32 AM
Well the only mines Belgium had were coalmines and that is like 40 years ago
The last workers willing to work in them were mostly Italians

So I have to choose between mines in South Africa , Canada, Souths America and Australia

Since I am a chartist I do not even know where most of my mines are so I classify them loosely in
Souths Africa and Canada

Anglogold Ashanti ; core positions only and not satisfied
Harmony ; core positions only and waiting for breakout of a triangle to decide
Drooy ; core position and two trading positions loosing money : lottery ticket

Kinross , core position and trading position , not satisfied
Yamana ; core position and trading position , not happy
Tanzanian ;core position and two trading positions ; lottery ticket
Minefinders ; core position and liking it

Great Basin Gold , core position and trading position , nice breakout of triangle
Oceana ; core position and trading position ; liking it

In general I am not happy with the performance of miners the last 10 years
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 18, 2010, 08:37:29 AM
I've checked up on a few silver mines. There's not that many of them and they all seem to show negative earnings or very high P/Es when they do have earnings. If they can't show earnings now, what happens when there's a  correction? Some of the gurus say if silver takes off high enough that even the pigs will fly. That might be true, I guess, but physical silver is more is fun to look at than pigs.    ;D

Speaking of pigs,  my computer  got the blue screen of death four times today. I think that might be new record.  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 18, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
I've checked up on a few silver mines. There's not that many of them and they all seem to show negative earnings or very high P/Es when they do have earnings. If they can't show earnings now, what happens when there's a  correction? Some of the gurus say if silver takes off high enough that even the pigs will fly. That might be true, I guess, but physical silver is more is fun to look at than pigs.    ;D

Speaking of pigs,  my computer  got the blue screen of death four times today. I think that might be new record.  ::)

I think it is way too early for silvermines
Even the good and the bad goldmines are floundering around
What is needed is a 20 % goldprice increase in a month time to get things kickstarted
I am waiting to see whether dec 6 th 2009 was the yearly high or whether jan 2010 can still equal or beat it
In the meantime I am still buying all I can get below melt. This should be the last time ever gold is that cheap
With 9% VAT on silver and very wide bid ask prices it is a lost cause in Euroland
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 18, 2010, 11:57:51 AM
Gold is out of my price range at this time unless it is a small piece. I can still chase silver and hope it rides along with gold as it always does! I sure do like the feel of both so its important that I continue to add a little weight each month! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 18, 2010, 08:34:17 PM
Maybe your looking in the wrong places:

Companies: Hecla Mining Co.
On Thursday January 14, 2010, 5:32 pm EST

COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) -- Hecla Mining Co. said Thursday that it produced 10.9 million ounces of silver in 2009, a record amount for the company and an increase of 26 percent from the prior year. They also reported output of 44,000 tons of lead and 80,000 tons of zinc during the year.

The company said that it ended the year with more than $100 million in cash and repaid $38.3 million in debt, leaving it debt free.

Hecla predicted it will produce 10 million to 11 million ounces of silver during 2010, and said that if metal prices stay steady it expects its cash costs to be lower than $2 per ounce of silver.

Problem is that CDE has disenchanted all investors for 10 years now , if I remember correctly.
I have one dispised miner Drooy called Droopy by the investors . Durban Deep .
If gold and silver just rise a tad more quickly the good news stories will start to rise
Problem is to be right before the pack. I was a few weeks in Oceana when they announce a massive
increase in goldreserves ; so yesterday when the Canadian market was open it went up 10%
In general I do not like silvermines ; goldmines are dangerous enough for me  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 18, 2010, 08:37:34 PM
Obama and Michelle in a German musical
Yes we can
Rating zero

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=aYYSMSN1Kk7Q
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 19, 2010, 03:37:24 AM
Hehe
Here we have a credible source saying gold is NOT going to 1500 and we live in deflationary times
About the only thing in this article I agree with is that miners losing money at 1100 $ an ounce
should be in another business
His credentials should uniquely qualify him to go and advise BO

Quote
Biography: The Mercenary Geologist (http://www.miningcompanyreport.com/) Michael S. “Mickey” Fulp is a Certified Professional Geologist with a B.Sc. Earth Sciences with honours from the University of Tulsa, and M.Sc. Geology from the University of New Mexico.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/183033-gold-not-likely-going-to-1500-anytime-soon?source=email
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 19, 2010, 08:37:30 AM
Maybe your looking in the wrong places:

Companies: Hecla Mining Co.
On Thursday January 14, 2010, 5:32 pm EST

COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) -- Hecla Mining Co. said Thursday that it produced 10.9 million ounces of silver in 2009, a record amount for the company and an increase of 26 percent from the prior year. They also reported output of 44,000 tons of lead and 80,000 tons of zinc during the year.

The company said that it ended the year with more than $100 million in cash and repaid $38.3 million in debt, leaving it debt free.

Hecla predicted it will produce 10 million to 11 million ounces of silver during 2010, and said that if metal prices stay steady it expects its cash costs to be lower than $2 per ounce of silver.

I'll try and check Hecla again. I checked into them before and there was something that bothered me about them.  In the mean time I'd like to wish you an early Happy Birthday just in case all this  blue I keep seeing on my monitor means something.  Hi computer, bye computer :D

                          HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND MANY MANY MORE!

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 19, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
On Hecla
This german professional says we are way too late and the chances of a downward consolidation is now
greater then another monster 700%
Scroll down to the second chart
( chances are a lot of people bought at 10-12 and still have a 40% loss instead of a 700% gain )

http://www.minenportal.de/artikel.php?sid=8527

(http://www.minenportal.de/bilder/artikel/3385.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 19, 2010, 10:17:03 PM
IMO, the U.S stock market in general is nothing but a pile of over priced propped up marginal crap. When it gets what it deserves it might not be good at all for metals. At least not in the short term. People might flock to Trasheries, and drive up the dollar and drive down metals. That will be a shop 'til you drop signal for me.  ;D

I'm going to keep an eye on Hecla. I kind a glanced at it last night before going blue again. Maybe I can get this thing to down load a pdf from them.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 19, 2010, 11:02:26 PM
My German is not that good.  ;D What does he see in his chart that he doesn't like?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 20, 2010, 12:31:23 AM
Ha ha! We got our first Black Swan of 2010. Ted Kennedy's seat went to a republican yesterday. A seat that was held by the Kennedy's since the 50's when JFK had it. Best of all these health care reform criminals and the 3,200 lobbyists they're doing the 'Lil Pig Dance with, might end up with squat. They can't block a filibuster now and the longer they filibuster this the more people don't like what they are finding out about it.

BO better watch it. He may be a lame duck next year swimming with the quack quack  seahag from Kalifornia.

There's another Black Swan circling.  The N.Y Jets might make it to the Super Bowl. Can you imagine how freaking Black Swan that would be?
Yeeee--haw this might be the year of the Black Swan for sure.  Push it all over Black Swan. Push all that garbage out into the street where it belongs!

Dear Taxpayer:
 It's time to change the bed pan for Citi again.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 12:35:07 AM
My German is not that good.  ;D What does he see in his chart that he doesn't like?

It is purely technical based on the book of stock trends "bible" by Edwards and Magee
The blue triangle has a flat bas and  a downsloping upper line
In like 85% of the cases this breaks out downwards
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 12:36:53 AM
Ha ha! We got our first Black Swan of 2010. Ted Kennedy's seat went to a republican yesterday. A seat that was held by the Kennedy's since the 50's when JFK had it. Best of all these health care reform criminals and their 3,200 lobbyists might end up with squat. They can't block a filibuster now and the longer they filibuster this the more people don't like what they are finding out about it.

BO better watch it. He may be a lame duck next year.

Dear Taxpayer:
 It's time to change the bed pan for Citi again.

Yes I read that and now BO lost his supermajority whatever that may be and he is in more trouble in
the early polls and betting he is a one time president probably does not get you even money any more on
that bet
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 20, 2010, 12:44:26 AM
Ha ha! We got our first Black Swan of 2010. Ted Kennedy's seat went to a republican yesterday. A seat that was held by the Kennedy's since the 50's when JFK had it. Best of all these health care reform criminals and their 3,200 lobbyists might end up with squat. They can't block a filibuster now and the longer they filibuster this the more people don't like what they are finding out about it.

BO better watch it. He may be a lame duck next year.

Dear Taxpayer:
 It's time to change the bed pan for Citi again.

Yes I read that and now BO lost his supermajority whatever that may be and he is in more trouble in
the early polls and betting he is a one time president probably does not get you even money any more on
that bet

I didn't know you were posting. I added some more to mine.  A supermajority means they can block a filibuster.  Now that they can't it can be delayed more. Democrats  can still pass the bill once all the filibuster games are over but the longer it's delayed the more people are finding out the details and they don't like it. Which is truly amazing. All anyone ever had to do was count the lobbyists to know they're  getting screwed blue. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 12:50:03 AM
I installed photoshop 3 CS and uninstalled photoshop 2 CS and moved all my pictures to
another partition of the same drive
Then I ran XP repair pro and it found like 400 registry errors  ???
These computers still do not know how to remove a program AND fix the register at the same time
Can you imagine what your register must look like ?
I suggest you find yourself a free registry cleaner or visit sweden's pirate bay

http://thepiratebay.org/

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 20, 2010, 12:52:30 AM
I'll check out now. I'm still alive here after 30 minutes. I'm starting feel like Sachigoth.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 12:54:44 AM
I'll check out now. I'm still alive here after 30 minutes. I'm starting feel like Sachigoth.

Ok I found one analyst who agrees with my choice of Yamana wow

http://seekingalpha.com/article/183273-golden-ideas-for-2010-and-beyond?source=email
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 01:57:35 AM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/34gloph.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 20, 2010, 03:37:51 AM
Poor Bill. He got away from  Judge Judy's heel a few times and they crucified him for it.

Wonder what BO's spinny corp will say about the loss? "Yes, we could have."  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 20, 2010, 04:07:35 AM
I'll check out now. I'm still alive here after 30 minutes. I'm starting feel like Sachigoth.

Ok I found one analyst who agrees with my choice of Yamana wow

http://seekingalpha.com/article/183273-golden-ideas-for-2010-and-beyond?source=email

If I'm reading that right Coeur D’Alene Mines  is selling below book.That's the only interesting number I see there. The rest of it looks horrible to me. Why are they selling so high?  Even if it's still only 2/3 of book they don't even look technically solvent unless I reading it wrong.

I down loaded one of those files but it won't open. Maybe I'll try another. For some reason I haven't gone blue in couple of hours. Maybe it's resting?  :D

"Yes! We could have."

Heehehehe limbaugh was playing patriotic music for democrats in Massachusetts yesterday. It was the Soviet national anthem. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 04:33:46 AM
I'll check out now. I'm still alive here after 30 minutes. I'm starting feel like Sachigoth.

Ok I found one analyst who agrees with my choice of Yamana wow

http://seekingalpha.com/article/183273-golden-ideas-for-2010-and-beyond?source=email

If I'm reading that right Coeur D’Alene Mines  is selling below book.That's the only interesting number I see there. The rest of it looks horrible to me. Why are they selling so high?  Even if it's still only 2/3 of book they don't even look technically solvent unless I reading it wrong.

I down loaded one of those files but it won't open. Maybe I'll try another. For some reason I haven't gone blue in couple of hours. Maybe it's resting?  :D

"Yes! We could have."

Heehehehe limbaugh was playing patriotic music for democrats in Massachusetts yesterday. It was the Soviet national anthem. 

CDE is a cultstock
IMHO they have the lousiest management in the world and keep failing their prognosis time and again
So they are too expensive and too dangerous for me

What file did you download and from where ? If it is the pirate bay you neet a bittorent (free program like bitcomet ) to download the full file and it may come in a compressed form you need to decompress
( rar or zip format)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 04:36:31 AM
Caution ; following you tube film contains material about Hitler commenting on the loss of a state by BO
To a European it is hillarious and it was posted by a norte americano on the stool

Hitler Finds Out Scott Brown Won Massachusetts Senate Seat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4aQCiRjvZY
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 04:54:59 AM
I got taken behind the woodshed by a Napoleon III coin
The pic showed it as MS and even in hand it looks MS quasi pseudo prooflike
Yet in high contrast 600 dpi scan it comes out as a clunker EF ( lucky I only paid melt )
What really threw me off on the photo was that all nerfs in the leaves are there
Well maybe some coffinmaker would give it an AU

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3090&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 09:29:16 AM
I sold my trading part in Minfinders for 11.25 US$ today
Slow stoch on months, week, day over 80%
Was one day too late ; that costs me 4%

In other comical news
Quote
Mexico: Big Boost in Gold Output in 2010 – and Beyond

Marc Davis
BNW Business News Wire
Posted Jan 20, 2010

Mexico’s ever-expanding gold mining industry is on-target for another banner year in 2010. In fact, output is expected to jump by an additional 880,000 ounces next year to nearly 2.5 million ounces, representing an approximately 50% increase over 2009’s projected figures (which have yet to be announced). :D :D :D


http://www.321gold.com/editorials/davis/davis01201 ...12010.html
  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 20, 2010, 09:34:30 AM
You can look at it as cyber sex as we all get screwed on ebay once in a while!!! ;D

Merlin says "The Black Swans are many and will come when least expected." Thats for sure as I feel there is not much hope out there!!!

BO and Hillary in the same photo is an insult to every taxpayer and it amazes me most folks can't seem to realize they are ALL crooks sucking the life out of this country and enjoying every luxury while doing so! Right now there is probably less than 10 honest politicians in Washington and we will never hear from them as they don't want to lose their perks either!!!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 20, 2010, 10:18:17 AM
I installed photoshop 3 CS and uninstalled photoshop 2 CS and moved all my pictures to
another partition of the same drive
Then I ran XP repair pro and it found like 400 registry errors  ???
These computers still do not know how to remove a program AND fix the register at the same time
Can you imagine what your register must look like ?
I suggest you find yourself a free registry cleaner or visit sweden's pirate bay

http://thepiratebay.org/



Personally I love www.ccleaner.com
Not only is it free and cleans register but lots of other crap safely.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 09:04:45 PM
I installed photoshop 3 CS and uninstalled photoshop 2 CS and moved all my pictures to
another partition of the same drive
Then I ran XP repair pro and it found like 400 registry errors  ???
These computers still do not know how to remove a program AND fix the register at the same time
Can you imagine what your register must look like ?
I suggest you find yourself a free registry cleaner or visit sweden's pirate bay
http://thepiratebay.org/
Personally I love www.ccleaner.com
Not only is it free and cleans register but lots of other crap safely.

I have ccleaner but hardly use it ; since it wipes the numbers of my "calculator id's" and contractnumber id's from my three banks I use . So each time I have to go and find those six numbers so that now I have them stuck under my screen since a softcrash may araise them too . The banks got too funny so they are not recognised as a Norton Identity Safe field .
I use XPreapair pro ( the best )
Regcure ( the fastest and cleans reg items with zero bytes )
PC optimizer ( the longest and deepest )
and of course Norton one button clean up
I regularly delete half of all my System Volume Information files by hand
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 09:06:55 PM
You can look at it as cyber sex as we all get screwed on ebay once in a while!!! ;D

Merlin says "The Black Swans are many and will come when least expected." Thats for sure as I feel there is not much hope out there!!!

BO and Hillary in the same photo is an insult to every taxpayer and it amazes me most folks can't seem to realize they are ALL crooks sucking the life out of this country and enjoying every luxury while doing so! Right now there is probably less than 10 honest politicians in Washington and we will never hear from them as they don't want to lose their perks either!!!

Was n'it the greek Diogenus that with a lantern in his hand wandered the streets at night , looking for
ONE honest man ? Or did I dream this one up ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Morgan is paying out your money , but not to you

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/01/morgan-paying-out-62-of-revenues-in.html

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1eboJ50wKI/AAAAAAAALIE/THOUb0u3k3M/s400/WheelbarrowBen.JPG)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 09:38:31 PM
Monthly gold chart
We can now assume , unless the price of gold shoots up vertically in jan
that the high is in on dec 3rd effectively shortening the cycle to 11 candles or 10 month
That would put the new high october 2010 . I recall seeing that one somewhere before
Unless we go from 12 to 11 to 10 in a matematical progression or even 9 if it is a log progression
This is one of those IQ160 questions
12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,12,11 ??
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
On the weekly chart we seem to be going up in the first subcycle that used to be 107 days
but now tentatively computes to 96 days

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 20, 2010, 09:46:04 PM
Daily going down still , of course

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on January 20, 2010, 10:13:31 PM
EVERYTIME THE NEWS COMES ON...IT REMINDS ME OF A FELLOW TEACHER WHOSE FATHER ALWAYS USED THE WORD "BOHICA".....I USE TO THINK IT WAS AN AMERICAN INDIAN WORD UNTIL I FOUND OUT IT WAS THE FIRST INITIALS OF A PHRASE...AND IT SURE FITS NOW....B--O--H--I--C--A!  BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN!

 YOUR SERVANT AND FRIEND.........THE TEMPLAR....P.S.--WATCH YOUR BACK!(http://)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 12:10:46 AM
EVERYTIME THE NEWS COMES ON...IT REMINDS ME OF A FELLOW TEACHER WHOSE FATHER ALWAYS USED THE WORD "BOHICA".....I USE TO THINK IT WAS AN AMERICAN INDIAN WORD UNTIL I FOUND OUT IT WAS THE FIRST INITIALS OF A PHRASE...AND IT SURE FITS NOW....B--O--H--I--C--A!  BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN!

 YOUR SERVANT AND FRIEND.........THE TEMPLAR....P.S.--WATCH YOUR BACK!(http://)


And I thought FUBAR was a kind of machine gun  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 12:12:10 AM
And I never liked " I am Gold "
How wrong I was

http://www.minenportal.de/artikel.php?sid=8546
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 21, 2010, 12:42:08 AM
EVERYTIME THE NEWS COMES ON...IT REMINDS ME OF A FELLOW TEACHER WHOSE FATHER ALWAYS USED THE WORD "BOHICA".....I USE TO THINK IT WAS AN AMERICAN INDIAN WORD UNTIL I FOUND OUT IT WAS THE FIRST INITIALS OF A PHRASE...AND IT SURE FITS NOW....B--O--H--I--C--A!  BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN!

 YOUR SERVANT AND FRIEND.........THE TEMPLAR....P.S.--WATCH YOUR BACK!(http://)


And I thought FUBAR was a kind of machine gun  :D

Since our economy is mostly fluffy buzz words, why not ICTS. It continues to suck.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 21, 2010, 12:46:59 AM
I'll check out now. I'm still alive here after 30 minutes. I'm starting feel like Sachigoth.

Ok I found one analyst who agrees with my choice of Yamana wow

http://seekingalpha.com/article/183273-golden-ideas-for-2010-and-beyond?source=email

If I'm reading that right Coeur D’Alene Mines  is selling below book.That's the only interesting number I see there. The rest of it looks horrible to me. Why are they selling so high?  Even if it's still only 2/3 of book they don't even look technically solvent unless I reading it wrong.

I down loaded one of those files but it won't open. Maybe I'll try another. For some reason I haven't gone blue in couple of hours. Maybe it's resting?  :D

"Yes! We could have."

Heehehehe limbaugh was playing patriotic music for democrats in Massachusetts yesterday. It was the Soviet national anthem. 

CDE is a cultstock
IMHO they have the lousiest management in the world and keep failing their prognosis time and again
So they are too expensive and too dangerous for me

What file did you download and from where ? If it is the pirate bay you neet a bittorent (free program like bitcomet ) to download the full file and it may come in a compressed form you need to decompress
( rar or zip format)

It was called Eusing  XP registry cleaner
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 12:51:12 AM
The only acronym I used to like is TGIF
Now I don't care anymore
Everyday is Sunday  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 21, 2010, 01:04:44 AM
It amazes me to no end how this word "talent" as it applies to wallstreet just won't go away. Now Citi has  a 7.6 billion loss because they paid back 20 billion to the tarpit. So, duh, I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that just maybe they didn't have 20 billion in profits to take the charge? WTF? Can't the "talent" even use a two  dollar calculator from china? THEY ARE NOT TOO BIG TO FAIL. THEY ARE TOO   ^*$%@(%  STUPID TO WIN. Citi is what happens when you prop up the weak and retarded. It's like they pass their retard genes on as a corporate  meme and now we have VILLAGE IDIOTS--THE NEXT GENERATION. It's never going to end.

Then they talk about the bonuses being necessary to keep "talent."  Uh, hello, hello there.... Isn't it self evident by the mess itself that they are anything but "talented?"

Drown them! Drag them down to the river and drown them. That's what a real "empire" would do! We're not even that.  Is there anything about us that's not fake & fluff, bull & bluster?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 21, 2010, 01:11:52 AM
Morgan is paying out your money , but not to you

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/01/morgan-paying-out-62-of-revenues-in.html

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S1eboJ50wKI/AAAAAAAALIE/THOUb0u3k3M/s400/WheelbarrowBen.JPG)

There's may be a lot of truth in that joke. I believe that's why people are so pissed off at BO. He's not giving out the welfare checks to us.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 01:23:05 AM
I don't know whether you took the time to look at that youtube film

They say that BO's schoolgrades are classified for a good reason  ;D

In the meantime they are saying we are sinking because of Greece which is only 5% of what Californication is
MOPE Sinclair calls it

First they had the Mexican flue to draw your attention ; Now Greece is sinking like Atlantis  :D

In the meantime they fill their pockets and have Airplane 1 on standby to flee to Guadalcanal  ;D
Lightning never strikes twice in the same place they say
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 01:39:11 AM
Ah yes, this too will pass! ::)

Well ;
there is this definition of a politician given to me by an American boss

A real politician is someone who will tell you to go to hell in such a way
that you thank him for the kind suggestion  :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on January 21, 2010, 03:12:46 AM
WELL ITS TIME TO GRAB A BOTTLE OF WHISKEY---DRINK TILL YOUR EYES CROSS----GET OUT OUR WEAPONS......PUMP UP THE BAGPIPES...AND FOLLOW THE LIGHT BRIGADE  INTO HISTORY!

          YOUR SERVANT.....WILL YE NO JOIN ME----AT LEAST FOR THE DRINKING PART ??? ??? ???

                        THE TIPPLE!(http://)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 04:12:03 AM
WELL ITS TIME TO GRAB A BOTTLE OF WHISKEY---DRINK TILL YOUR EYES CROSS----GET OUT OUR WEAPONS......PUMP UP THE BAGPIPES...AND FOLLOW THE LIGHT BRIGADE  INTO HISTORY!

          YOUR SERVANT.....WILL YE NO JOIN ME----AT LEAST FOR THE DRINKING PART ??? ??? ???

                        THE TIPPLE!(http://)


It is 6 pm here so I started on the Famouse Grouse whiskey
Then I will have a Bourbon Four Roses with Coke and then Cuba libres a volonté
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 04:28:40 AM
From the reminicenses of a metal market trader

Quote
   Interestingly, I had a good long conversation with a Hong Kong Chinese dude who is a commodity trader there. He was here for Christmas and we sank a few beers. He made my analysis look like the best case scenario. He told me every firm in HK has laid bets on a complete failure of the entire system here and they have been buying up….. gold shares in mines… all super very super quiet, but everything that is trading they are vacuuming it allllllll up. Iron etc are a side game. They are buying gold and silver like there will be no tomorrow… he was deadly serious too.

These dudes still do not understand there is no tomorrow  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 21, 2010, 04:57:40 AM
Or  this is the tomorrow from the 60's when one of the economists said "we're all dead in the long run." A statement that must have been every bit as "deep" then as Chenny's "deficits don't matter."  It should collapse. It's beyond criminal  to try and pass  on a fifty year booze  tab to kids that haven't even been born yet.

Funny how these rat bellies don't care about the chee-rins that have to pay for all this crap when they are *claiming* the money they're borrowing, taxing, or otherwise stealing  is "for the chee-drins."

Hey Keynes, Galbraith, or Who ever-TF  you were: The "long run" has arrived.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 05:09:54 AM
GM just announced officially it is closing Opel Antwerp
2600 jobless and another 2400 in supply companies
5000 families in trouble

Together with the Inbev beer fight going on the Unions are taking it on the chin
Inbev did a lock out

GM in Germany stays in business because of the billions that were given by the
german government

It is still not a fight or a rout , but the germans buying off GM is a precedent that could set
the future tone
Everyone fights his own battle and the others be damned
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 21, 2010, 05:23:45 AM
Why doesn't BO send a gaggle, ooops, delegation,  of his corporate "talent" over to Europe to help straighten them out. I'm sure they must very eager to hear the words of corporate wisdom from the best of the best aren't they? We could really use the exports and what else do we have in such excess  abundance that we can export except for our well known  bullshit artists.  But not just any bullshit artists, no sir. These bullshit artists are are  rolled and dipped in honey until the world calls them  "corporate talent."

I can understand why Bush never sent them over. He still though Europeans were walking around begging cigarettes  and rations from  GIs. But BO is suppose to be more modern and up to date and he certainly knows how to honey dip the "corporate talent."  In fact, he can dip them in honey with one hand and shake his fist "we will bury you" with the other hand. Bush wasn't lucid enough to do two things at the same time .  So, C'mon  Mr. President,  lets get with the program, start exporting that "corporate talent."  

It might be tough for awhile but I for one am willing to suffer the loss of our corporate talent if it will help out the greater good.   ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 06:49:01 AM
Why doesn't BO send a gaggle, ooops, delegation,  of his corporate "talent" over to Europe to help straighten them out. I'm sure they must very eager to hear the words of corporate wisdom from the best of the best aren't they? We could really use the exports and what else do we have in such excess  abundance that we can export except for our well known  bullshit artists.  But not just any bullshit artists, no sir. These bullshit artists are are  rolled and dipped in honey until the world calls them  "corporate talent."

I can understand why Bush never sent them over. He still though Europeans were walking around begging cigarettes  and rations from  GIs. But BO is suppose to be more modern and up to date and he certainly knows how to honey dip the "corporate talent."  In fact, he can dip them in honey with one hand and shake his fist "we will bury you" with the other hand. Bush wasn't lucid enough to do two things at the same time .  So, C'mon  Mr. President,  lets get with the program, start exporting that "corporate talent."  

It might be tough for awhile but I for one am willing to suffer the loss of our corporate talent if it will help out the greater good.   ::)

Yes we can (do without him)
Sent over Monica , we lack that talent over here  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 09:39:03 PM
Finally there is hiring of people again
Green shoots

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New York Fed Names Seven Senior Vice Presidents and Ten Vice Presidents
January 21, 2010

NEW YORK – The Federal Reserve Bank of New York announced that its board of directors has approved the promotion of seven senior vice presidents and ten vice presidents.

NY Fed
New York Fed Names 11 Assistant Vice Presidents and 29 Officers
January 21, 2010
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 09:42:31 PM
And another present for golden sack

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Dick Bove says that Obama's proposal will be good for Goldman Sachs because it will take away the prop trading from banks that have deposits, but will not affect Goldman Sachs who will once again eliminate more competition.
 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=anWa3pOh_gIs
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
There is a new bubble born
Lobbyists needed ; by the hundreds

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Supreme Court Rejects Campaign Spending Limits
By ADAM LIPTAK
Published: January 21, 2010

WASHINGTON — Sweeping aside a century-old understanding and overruling two important precedents, a bitterly divided Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that the government may not ban political spending by corporations in candidate elections.

The ruling was a vindication, the majority said, of the First Amendment’s most basic free speech principle — that the government has no business regulating political speech. The dissenters said allowing corporate money to flood the political marketplace will corrupt democracy.

The 5-to-4 decision represented a sharp doctrinal shift, and it will have major political and practical consequences. Specialists in campaign finance law said they expected the decision, which also applies to labor unions and other organizations, to reshape the way elections are conducted.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 21, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
In unrelated news I read this week that a corrupt chinese judge was not hung
but because of his many connections his sentence was live imprisonment  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 22, 2010, 02:28:25 AM
And another present for golden sack

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Dick Bove says that Obama's proposal will be good for Goldman Sachs because it will take away the prop trading from banks that have deposits, but will not affect Goldman Sachs who will once again eliminate more competition.
  

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=anWa3pOh_gIs

What an odd thing for a "socialist" to do.  Still he'll never beat bushe's brilliant idea of putting the King of the Sachigoths in charge of the U.S Treasury.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 22, 2010, 02:59:59 PM
I read a woman somewhere in Barcelona caught a 214 pound catfish.  I wonder if that qualifies as a Black Swan event?  It's a skin head and  a bottom feeder.  And I believe she let it go free.  

That reminds me. What ever happened to Hank Paulson?  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 22, 2010, 03:09:45 PM
Why doesn't BO send a gaggle, ooops, delegation,  of his corporate "talent" over to Europe to help straighten them out. I'm sure they must very eager to hear the words of corporate wisdom from the best of the best aren't they? We could really use the exports and what else do we have in such excess  abundance that we can export except for our well known  bullshit artists.  But not just any bullshit artists, no sir. These bullshit artists are are  rolled and dipped in honey until the world calls them  "corporate talent."

I can understand why Bush never sent them over. He still though Europeans were walking around begging cigarettes  and rations from  GIs. But BO is suppose to be more modern and up to date and he certainly knows how to honey dip the "corporate talent."  In fact, he can dip them in honey with one hand and shake his fist "we will bury you" with the other hand. Bush wasn't lucid enough to do two things at the same time .  So, C'mon  Mr. President,  lets get with the program, start exporting that "corporate talent."  

It might be tough for awhile but I for one am willing to suffer the loss of our corporate talent if it will help out the greater good.   ::)

Yes we can (do without him)
Sent over Monica , we lack that talent over here  :P

There was a hooker in Naples known as Humpty-Dumpty because she starting working right after WWll and sat on that long wall in Naples. It was some kind of jetty or break wall. She was still going to the wall in 1979 but only to sell autographs. Funny how enterprising people can be if the government would just leave them alone.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 22, 2010, 11:42:22 PM
Illinois the first to go? How did Scharzy Tarzan Terminator swing that one ?

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Illinois enters a state of insolvency
By: Paul Merrion, Greg Hinz and Steven R. Strahler
January 18, 2010

As Illinois’ fiscal crisis deepens, the word "bankruptcy" is creeping more and more into the public discourse.

"We would like all the stakeholders of Illinois to recognize how close the state is to bankruptcy or insolvency," says Laurence Msall, president of the Civic Federation, a fiscal watchdog in Chicago.

"Bankruptcy is the reality that looms out there," Republican gubernatorial candidate Andrew McKenna Jr. says.

While it appears unlikely or even impossible for a state to hide out from creditors in Bankruptcy Court, Illinois appears to meet classic definitions of insolvency: Its liabilities far exceed its assets, and it’s not generating enough cash to pay its bills. Private companies in similar circumstances often shut down or file for bankruptcy protection.

"I would describe bankruptcy as the inability to pay one’s bills," says Jim Nowlan, senior fellow at the University of Illinois’ Institute of Government and Public Affairs. "We’re close to de facto bankruptcy, if not de jure bankruptcy."

Legal experts say the protections of the federal bankruptcy code are available to cities and counties but not states.

More… 

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 23, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
shadow stat unemployment over 20%

http://www.shadowstats.com/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 23, 2010, 03:07:28 AM
With the new Supreme Court decision that corporations are more powerful than people.
Over an hour "freedom from facism"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173#

More on climategate
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/engdahl/2010/0122.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 23, 2010, 04:21:49 AM
Has anyone noticed, that gold is sinking faster than the Titanic!  So I guess it's going to be this fall if it happens at all. :-\

The speculators are running for cover ever since Obama shook his big stick at them......(same  with oil)

Speculators are those two or three at the stool who borrowed 25000 $ to buy marginal goldminer shares
with the borrowed money and kid themselves they are not on margin
Of this kind  some will make it big : most will go broke
I read on a german forum about a guy with one million who lost 50 million
I sold Minefinders which is down more then 10 % in a few days ; I plan to buy minefinders back next week
In Euro gold hardly went down since the dollar went up nearly as much as gold went down
Internationally you have to look at the price of gold in other currencies too

In the first half of 2010 I hope to be able to go on buying "one last time"
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 23, 2010, 04:27:41 AM
With the new Supreme Court decision that corporations are more powerful than people.
Over an hour "freedom from facism"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173#

More on climategate
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/engdahl/2010/0122.html

I have been in evironment all my life
I cannot even bother anymore to look at figures
Remember the Club of Rome who around 1970 predicted we would run out of oil by 2010 like ?
Most so called scientists are out to get their name in the papers faster then the next fellow
And no they do not care their figures are flawed because they get paid (attention)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 23, 2010, 05:01:27 AM
We are going to find out soon just how stupid or blind our research has been on many fronts.  Billions of dollars have been spent looking for answers that laid right before our eyes throughout history. Those in power must think the human being is one of the dumbest animals ever created. In a sense WE are, well at least the ones that remain with a herd mentality.
I always think of the old saying, "Are you part of the problem or part of the answer?" The problem is those who rule don't want any anwers as they rely on problems to remain hidden in public view while they suck the wealth out of the planet and they are still doing it! What a pitiful, gutless creature human kind has become!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 23, 2010, 11:21:46 PM
From Sinclair

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When in the history of the United States has there been a credible movement to remove both the Chairman of the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of the US Treasury? The answer is never since the invention of the private bank, the US Federal Reserve.

I have been telling you for months that there is a war going on between the Banksters and Daddy Warbucks. This is best understood as the desire to bring the power of the Federal Reserve into the Oval office, not by trusting an appointee but by absolute control over the appointee. Failing that the plan is to emasculate the Fed.

http://jsmineset.com/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 23, 2010, 11:23:39 PM
From gold eagle

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Putting Fiscal Year 2009's $9,000,000,000,000 ($9 trillion) deficit another way, 17% of America's private wealth, accumulated over a period of 235 years, was wiped out by just one year's worth of government deficit spending insanity. 

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/dougherty012210.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 23, 2010, 11:25:35 PM
From our Flemish Times
Bo his blocking the attacks on B but he surely does not look happy

(http://static0.tijd.be/i/00/68/a8.250.jpeg?ts=1255564684000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 23, 2010, 11:28:06 PM
BO is angry with the supreme court
Why does 'nt  he sent them to Guantanamo ? Ah yes he was going to abolish Gauantanamo
Maybe he can sent them on a trip to China ?

(http://static2.tijd.be/i/00/7b/8a.170.jpeg?ts=1261174839000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 24, 2010, 02:26:51 AM
BO is angry with the supreme court
Why does 'nt  he sent them to Guantanamo ? Ah yes he was going to abolish Gauantanamo
Maybe he can sent them on a trip to China ?
Can't do that either as Hillary Clinton opened her mouth and now they are ready to even throw out 'Google'.

Google has a split tongue
They agreed to censure all searches within China and then they object against Chinese hackers , hacking them
If you agree to be a slave you have to act like a slave .
If you sold your soul for gain it is gone because you signed in blood ( Faust )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 24, 2010, 03:39:59 AM
I can never overlook the fact Hillary is a nobody who rode on Bill's coat tails in an effort to be somebody. A SANE woman with ethics and morals would have gotten a divorce years before Monica came along, over the humilation she went through but the lust for power was much greater than her old man fooling around and its been that way through their entire marriage. The good folks in Arkansas are sooooo thankful they are gone but I am sure that Bill and Billary are still making money off of their dealings in that state.  Have all of you seen THE CLINTON CHRONICILES?" A great little film which gives you some idea what the filthy rich will do to anyone who gets in their way. Lots of innocent people are still suffering for trying to blow the whistle down there. Al Gore supposedly remarked he knew better than run against Hillary as she was ruthless. Yes sir the American people sure know how to pick them or did we......???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 24, 2010, 11:52:52 AM
I wish  "Goldfinger"   Gordon Brown would offer the world some savvy metals advice. Take a look at the link. Could you ever ask for a better   counter play than Gordon Brown?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1655001.ece  

I'm thinking about hitting a coin show in a couple of weeks and buying some silver if it keeps declining. What's going to happen Oh Guru Brown?---Seething twisted agony and a sun burn too from global warming?   ::)  Oh good, I hope so....buy, buy, buy...

After they lost the "swimmers" seat in Mass. the radio station was playing The Night Chicago died and super imposing the screaming witch from the Wizard of Oz.  "I'm melting..." (The seahag from San Fransisco). It was hilarious.  The Night Chicago Died, AHHHHH  I'm melting!

Mental note: Half of Pelosi's face just fell off.  Buy  stock in Estee Lauder,  Max Factor   and putty knives for the shovel ready repaving job.

Tell me now, why would a president who was so popular just a year ago be tanking like this? Because Mr. President, you are being lied to 24/7. It's a depression not a recession. It's not recovering, it's getting worse and will continue to do so until you flush the toilet. Oh, and you can't fake it either like all the other stuff. You can't tell a man he's prosperous when his pockets are empty and his wife is throwing shit at him.  

I don't know why I keep telling BO stuff. He never says thank you.  ::)




 









 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 24, 2010, 10:04:54 PM
Geee even the other Senators didn't  know what Dirt-bag  Harry's Health care crap "represented" since he wouldn't tell them. But I think I can guess what Pelosi's crap "represents": Off loading Kalifornia's health care welfare  "entitlements" to the the U.S taxpayer.

Hey Nancy how about that fence? They ever build that or are you people still blowing exhaust out of your  piggily-wiggily  faces?

Speaking of pigs, apparently  folks in Nebraska don't like them. Ben Nelson was booed out of a restaurant a few weeks ago.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31488.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 25, 2010, 12:10:53 AM
Google has a split tongue
They agreed to censure all searches within China and then they object against Chinese hackers , hacking them
If you agree to be a slave you have to act like a slave .
If you sold your soul for gain it is gone because you signed in blood ( Faust )
from Jason Lee/Reuters:
Google's engagement with China was driven by both greed and naivety. The latter was graphically illustrated by the deal on filtering search results the company accepted. The Google folk persuaded themselves it was better to let internet users know their searches had been filtered, on the grounds that this might alert Chinese citizens to the imperfections in their political arrangements. It was unpalatable, but better than nothing. And it might lead to change.
It was all hooey, of course. The regime is irredeemably authoritarian and never had any intention of ceding freedom of information to its people. Neither has it ever bought into the idea of market triumphalism. The whole Chinese economic "miracle" is a refutation of the link between capitalism and liberalism: Hu Jintao & Co believe it is perfectly possible to build a dynamic, prosperous economy without bothering with all that democracy nonsense.

The best boss I ever had who ended is working life as vice president of tupperware once said to me
The best form of government is a benevolent dictatorship
I now believe him ; but were the heck do you find a benevolent dictator ??? who knows what he is doing
on top of that  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 25, 2010, 12:12:45 AM
January is far from finished and allready the best ever for over 3 million silver eagles
Is the world starting to understand paper is printable ?
I think so

http://www.coinnews.net/2010/01/24/us-mint-silver-eagle-sales-top-3-million-best-ever-january/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CoinNewsnet+%28CoinNews.net%27s+Numismatic+News%29
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 25, 2010, 12:14:54 AM
From the movie paint your wagon

Where I am going I ain't certain ; where I 'am going I don't know
All I know is I am on my way

(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg12/spamtramp/vacak/8af5301b.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 25, 2010, 12:19:03 AM
This is what a German thinks overwelming preparations
Hmmm I am not impressed

(http://www.goldseiten-forum.de/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=44681&h=6fe6c9031fc4bcb65ddb88165ce32b04523b0f8d)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 25, 2010, 02:33:43 AM
There's never Luddite around when you need one.  :o

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 25, 2010, 10:58:05 PM
My crystal ball is trying to clear out

I see , I see a bottom of gold this week and a mini peak half march  :D

Since I sold Minefinders and Tanzanean and liberated some overnight depositos at a whopping 1.5% yearly intrest I have now the necessary warchest to get into the next trading cycle

I allready got some Lizzy young heads of the second design
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 26, 2010, 01:40:36 AM
These are bulkcoins by definitions and near melt and it is virtually impossible to get
Lizzy young head 1 or Lizzy younghead 2 in MS 65 or better
Most of the scanned "damage" is lint and dust ; but I did not feel like using distilled water
It is too cold now
This is Lizzy 2 in like MS63

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3093&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 26, 2010, 02:47:18 AM
It is reported that the main-Danube canal, part of the waterway system running from the Black Sea to the North Sea, will close because of freezing weather. The canal, which passes through the German state of Bavaria to the Danube River, will shut at 8 p.m. local time, Josef Richter, an official from the Wasserschutzpolizei in Beilngries, said. The Wasserschutzpolizei patrols the country’s waterways. The canal carries oil products including jet fuel and gasoline, as well as coal and grain. So hang onto your hats over there, as gas prices will be headed skyward very soon.
Maybe this is what they meant when they talk about 'hell freezing over'.

They expected a dozen or so Polish to freeze to death last night
Temp was expected at 34 minus in Celsius ( -29 F ?) in Poland
We Belgians get our gas from Holland per pipeline and our electricity from nuclear mostly
For the moment it is "just" a matter of paying your bills over here in Belgium
Allthough all that global heating is surely not showing  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 26, 2010, 09:29:33 PM
In what a world do we live

Now the Greek are asking the Chinese to help them ???

Our first Belgian - Luxemburg small insurer went broke
because the taxpeople asked him 2 million tax and he only had 0.2 million
The sherif of Nottingham strikes again
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 27, 2010, 12:11:19 AM
It's a pity that Ayn Rand is gone.  This stuff today is right out of Atlas Shrugged. Keep the No-loads and kill the producers.  Oregon just voted to raise taxes on businesses only. So, they kill business people rather than get rid of their bums on welfare or the state payroll--(back door welfare.)

 BO gives his State of the Circus speech tonight. I'm not expecting to hear anything like flush the toilet and the wallstreet turds that are in it. Or any talk about going back to a country that makes things people want. Or telling dumb shit boomers to get a calculator. I do expect to hear:

"Our life, is very very subsidized life,
we're bums out in the yard,
life used to be so hard..."

Oh and I hear King Knobhead and the organ grinder's monkey that replaced him have been called before a very self righteously indignant congress.  The same hypocrites that gave King Knobhead to wink wink to open up the gates and let his  barbarians in. I'm sure "they'll get to the bottom of this."  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 27, 2010, 01:46:44 AM
Ah yes?
Is it state of the Onion time again ?
We say L'onion fait la force ( even on our coins)
In the Onion is the strenght

I bet popeye with is spinach did not know that  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 27, 2010, 02:08:48 AM
Onions being dissent? "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Thomas  Jefferson

Did you ever see the movies Underworld? It's about vampires vs. warewolves. Both with different forms but with the same aim of dominating humanity--opposames. When this mess is over in about 20 years it will be  the Libertarians who win. They will be the crows picking the bones of dead masters of the universe.

Oh, they're getting pretty active these days. Found this at Daily Reckoning, an excerpt from a You Tube video. I won't even try to down load since Bell bites a big bag can't even down load my email.

By Rocky Vega


01/26/10 Stockholm, Sweden – If you can believe it, the modern incarnations of John Maynard Keynes and Friedrich A. Hayek defend their economic perspectives in a battle rap (of sorts). Here’s a highlight from Hayek:

*****************************************************
“If you’re living high on that cheap credit hog
Don’t look for cure from the hair of the dog
Real savings come first if you want to invest
The market coordinates time with interest

“Your focus on spending is pushing on thread
In the long run, my friend, it’s your theory that’s dead
So sorry there, buddy, if that sounds like invective
Prepared to get schooled in my Austrian perspective”
****************************************************


BTW, Silver miners are some scary stuff. Hecla dropped a dollar since we talk about it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 27, 2010, 04:04:56 AM
At this moment I am still in "dollar" stock and not penny stock
I am also avoiding silver stock cause many are cult stocks and dangerous
I am very slowly decending in cheaper stock to increase leverage



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 27, 2010, 04:22:08 AM
(http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/clip_image00217.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 27, 2010, 11:32:57 PM
(http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/clip_image002_thumb.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 27, 2010, 11:52:05 PM
Dharmeye
I think the bottom in HUI is in yesterday and around 15 march  we have the minihigh of the first 106 days cycle
In between there may be a bottom in february
So I will invest into my trading portfolio in the feb bottom and get out in march
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 28, 2010, 12:56:59 AM
(http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/clip_image00217.jpg)

The slob from wallstreet is perfect. But Uncle Sam should be much smaller in sitting inside of the slob's front pocket shaking his fist at him. Oh, yeah and the slob could maybe pop him on head with his finger: "Shut up. Who told you to talk."  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 28, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
Dharmeye
I think the bottom in HUI is in yesterday and around 15 march  we have the minihigh of the first 106 days cycle
In between there may be a bottom in february
So I will invest into my trading portfolio in the feb bottom and get out in march

Hey August,

Just saw your post on the digger and based on the Jan11 peak in gold price (second one), 107 days is April 28 (full moon).
From your previous charting it appears that you do not reset this cycle on near by (close) high highs- if you do it makes it March 19 (very near your current date).
So you are resetting top to about Dec 2/2009?
Anyway the HUI today did touch support from Oct20, 2008, with other major support within 10% lower. Also very much in the oversold range but no divergences.
Will wait for divergences or as bearvest says a second dip below slow stoch. 20 level. Also see possible nasty down  in the general market over the next month.
Will post when I do do something. Thanks.

Mid March tends to be a low Seasonally.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 28, 2010, 09:43:30 PM
Dharmeye
I think the bottom in HUI is in yesterday and around 15 march  we have the minihigh of the first 106 days cycle
In between there may be a bottom in february
So I will invest into my trading portfolio in the feb bottom and get out in march

Hey August,

Just saw your post on the digger and based on the Jan11 peak in gold price (second one), 107 days is April 28 (full moon).
From your previous charting it appears that you do not reset this cycle on near by (close) high highs- if you do it makes it March 19 (very near your current date).
So you are resetting top to about Dec 2/2009?
Anyway the HUI today did touch support from Oct20, 2008, with other major support within 10% lower. Also very much in the oversold range but no divergences.
Will wait for divergences or as bearvest says a second dip below slow stoch. 20 level. Also see possible nasty down  in the general market over the next month.
Will post when I do do something. Thanks.

Mid March tends to be a low Seasonally.

For ten years I have been working with a 12 monthly candles = 11 months model
And then december 3rd 2009 surprised me by 11 candles.

So I tentatively adopted my model to 11 candles = 10 months starting dec 3rd 2009
That gives october has 2010 high
I used to subdivide in 3x107 days subcycles which I now tentatively shorten abitraraly to 100 days by lack of data
That places the first subcycle high week of 15 march ( but 107 days cycles are not really excluded since I only got 1 new datapoint )
I used to subdivide in three very irregular 35 days minicycles which I shortened arbitrarily to 33 days
( again if december was an aberation this is wrong)

After staring at my charts for two hours a day all week I have now a more logical scenario

We need a yearly low on the monthly candle chart in the new 11 candles cycle or even the old 12 candles cycle should it come into being again, february is a likely candidate for the low and with the oversold conditions the first week of february is a likely candidate ( but any three months after this are statistically possible
From there we go up into the midmarch minihigh which I reckon is centered on 96 and 107 days from december the third ( the last december cycle was 96 days )

In conclusion I hope to buy cheaply next monday and I need till the end of the first 96-107 days cycle to get a second data point

August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2010, 01:27:41 AM
I was offline three hours because that shit of Norton crashed and I do not want to go on line without all my firewalls

Darling (that is a minister in UK) said he will NOT contribute to help Greece in the Eurozone ( since the EEC has a help of last resort ready )
Well I hope when Darling is up to his nose in shit , we the Eurozone will NOT help
his sinking island . It is time for the Uk to understand the empire is over

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d3c93a00-0cae-11df-b8eb-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2010, 01:30:49 AM
One of the best concerns making 112 billion dollar in 2009 is the Italian Mafia
They had one , onetime writeoff, that is a half billion confiscated by the law
The banks were not loaning out money but they were at high intrest and collecting

What would that be sir , 10 000 euro or a three months stay in hospital plus 12 000 euro ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2010, 02:25:36 AM
Monthly chart today


(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3101&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 29, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
Would it be okay if we loot the shareholders before we leave?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2715887120100127


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WILMINGTON, Del., Jan 27 (Reuters) - Bankrupt media company Tribune Co (TRBCQ.PK) can pay about $45 million in bonuses to hundreds of managers, the largest such payment in at least 12 years, after a judge overruled union objections on Wednesday.

The owner of the Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times as well as more than 20 television stations will begin paying the bonuses next month to as many as 720 senior employees as part of its annual incentive plan.

The Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild opposed the payments, which it said rewarded declining performance at a time when the company had frozen salaries for most staff.
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Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2010, 04:04:57 AM
Would it be okay if we loot the shareholders before we leave?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2715887120100127


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WILMINGTON, Del., Jan 27 (Reuters) - Bankrupt media company Tribune Co (TRBCQ.PK) can pay about $45 million in bonuses to hundreds of managers, the largest such payment in at least 12 years, after a judge overruled union objections on Wednesday.

The owner of the Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times as well as more than 20 television stations will begin paying the bonuses next month to as many as 720 senior employees as part of its annual incentive plan.

The Washington-Baltimore Newspaper Guild opposed the payments, which it said rewarded declining performance at a time when the company had frozen salaries for most staff.
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Shareholders are there to take the risk and they were recompensated to take that risk
If not they are dumb f___s that deserve what they get
I once was a dumb f__k and the aussies gave it to me rigth up the gazzoo  >:( ??? :-[
I no longer buy any aussie shares whatsoever
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2010, 06:38:11 AM
Dharmeye
KOTCT have a photogallery were I put my uploaded pictures
as a full member I think you have access
If not ask TKO

http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 29, 2010, 02:14:21 PM
Ha, ha, now they are trying to say GDP grew at 5.3%.

********************************************************
"But the devastation remains. One in 10 Americans still cannot find work. Many businesses have shuttered. Home values have declined. Small towns and rural communities have been hit especially hard. And for those who'd already known poverty, life has become that much harder."

Excerpt from State of the Circus
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But how can that be with such a robust GDP?

I was trying to find out where I saw the 5.3% today so I put GDP 5.3 percent in google. It seems to be a really popular number for everyone. What are they doing, getting GDP reports from Cliff Notes or something.

It was a yahoo link to Bloomberg and it was 5.7% annualized 4Q. Yee-haw I'm gonna go out buy a new Hummer. The recession is over!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2010, 11:58:09 PM
It seems only the Spanish are thruthfull
They say they have 18.8% jobless

And only the Italian Mafia is making 112 billion dollars a year

They now say that minister Darling wanted Lehman to die

One thing about small eurocountry press , is that they only sell newspapers
in reporting caraccidents and scandel stories which mostly are true
when the come from the Economic Times ( Ekonomische Tijd )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on January 30, 2010, 09:58:30 AM
I find it amazing that silver is down and the U.S. Mint's prices for Eagles is up? Guess we are still buying the expensive silver they bought earlier when silver prices were up? Seems odd they have claimed the last two months that demand far exceeded the amount of silver on hand so they quit striking eagles. Does anyone else smell anything?

2010 Eagles at my dealer opened at $23.00!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on January 31, 2010, 09:23:32 AM
Thank August, yes it works!

http://ttheory.typepad.com/files/advance-d...e-t13status.pdf
http://ttheory.typepad.com/files/40ycycledepressions.pdf
http://ttheory.typepad.com          for a front view,  from Kwave on the stool.



Dharmeye
KOTCT have a photogallery were I put my uploaded pictures
as a full member I think you have access
If not ask TKO

http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 31, 2010, 11:58:19 AM
I find it amazing that silver is down and the U.S. Mint's prices for Eagles is up? Guess we are still buying the expensive silver they bought earlier when silver prices were up? Seems odd they have claimed the last two months that demand far exceeded the amount of silver on hand so they quit striking eagles. Does anyone else smell anything?

2010 Eagles at my dealer opened at $23.00!

When spot was $6  an ounce I was buying art bars on ebay for spot or maybe $7 or $8 and paying $2 shipping. When silver started climbing not only did the sell price go up, which I expected, but the shipping prices went up to anywhere from $4-$6. Well that's funny, I'm pretty sure the postal scale will still show a  1 once art bar as weighing  1 ounce no matter what the price of silver is.

Well at least the the mint/Treasury hasn't done a Gordon Brown yet.  The market timer genius  managed to sell off England's  gold in 1999--at rock bottom prices. Luckily the price of gold is likely to remain too high for too long for the  Imperial Leprechaun to screw that up too.  

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 31, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
The mint sold more silver eagles then ever before
They too are "printing" that is coining money

I found a german who held a firesale and got 40 silver 2009 eagles at melt  ;D

Yesterday I got the disappointment of my life
I went to a coming out event and a woman ( a bit drunk ) draped herself around my neck and
started kissing me ( my wife did not mind since she looked like an old seahag )
Turns out she was the most beautifull girl at 16 about 33 years ago and now she was a drunk
"courtisanne" and she remembered me as the brother of somebody she "loved"
This shattered the picture I had of her as unobtainable and georgeous
She married a rich merchand and is stinking rich ; but from what I gather she is only happy
partying

If this is a starting depression : all these courtisannes and their now rich husbands are going to suffer
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 12:50:48 AM
The proof Buffalo
failed upload
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 12:52:45 AM
The proof buffalo

(http://www.capitalstool.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=121678)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 01, 2010, 01:13:33 AM
The mint sold more silver eagles then ever before
They too are "printing" that is coining money

I found a german who held a firesale and got 40 silver 2009 eagles at melt  ;D

Yesterday I got the disappointment of my life
I went to a coming out event and a woman ( a bit drunk ) draped herself around my neck and
started kissing me ( my wife did not mind since she looked like an old seahag )
Turns out she was the most beautifull girl at 16 about 33 years ago and now she was a drunk
"courtisanne" and she remembered me as the brother of somebody she "loved"
This shattered the picture I had of her as unobtainable and georgeous
She married a rich merchand and is stinking rich ; but from what I gather she is only happy
partying

If this is a starting depression : all these courtisannes and their now rich husbands are going to suffer

Ha ha, she smelled that gold on you! Maybe she's a boozer because she lost her looks?  The trophy wives, that are still trophies, aren't waiting around for their commodities to spoil. They don't do  suffering.  They're dumping their former masters of the universe and taking whatever is left with them. Yeah! No one can get to these cockroaches because all the politicians and regulators are in their back pocket. But their gold digger wives can flank their asses in divorce court in a heartbeat. God bless them all, they are our vengence! Whipe 'em out, squeeze the grease out their cockroach bones!
(http://fantasy.mrugala.net/Luis%20Royo/Luis%20Royo%20-%20Cover%20Heavy%20Metal%201991.jpg)
Oh yes me pretty, there's gold and candle charts too over in that castle.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 02:02:29 AM
You pervert  ;D :D ;)

You want to make an old man drool  ::) :'( ::)

Where did you find that piece of art ? I read a sci fi novel where every male or female had
an accompaning animal "twin" . This looks like a illustration for that book .

Maybe Terry should put that on the front cover of his next book to boost sales  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 02:17:09 AM
(http://fantasy.mrugala.net/Bande%20dessinee%20-%20Heavy%20metal%202003/Bande%20dessinee%20-%20Heavy%20metal%202003%20-%2007.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 02:39:03 AM
Common BO what is that about a measly 1.5 trillion dollar deficit
You need to give us 3 trillion for gold to really move up : with a 6 trillion promise for next year  ;D

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10671220/1/gold-rises-on-deficit-fears.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 01, 2010, 05:07:59 AM
You pervert  ;D :D ;)

You want to make an old man drool  ::) :'( ::)

Where did you find that piece of art ? I read a sci fi novel where every male or female had
an accompaning animal "twin" . This looks like a illustration for that book .

Maybe Terry should put that on the front cover of his next book to boost sales  ;D

It said that it was Luis Royo's. A pretty famous fantasy artist who did a lot of covers for for Heavy Metal. I tried to find it at AllPosters.com but didn't see it. So I ordered his Gothic poster instead.  8)
(http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/17/1713/HCR1D00Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 06:37:39 AM
You pervert  ;D :D ;)

You want to make an old man drool  ::) :'( ::)

Where did you find that piece of art ? I read a sci fi novel where every male or female had
an accompaning animal "twin" . This looks like a illustration for that book .

Maybe Terry should put that on the front cover of his next book to boost sales  ;D

It said that it was Luis Royo's. A pretty famous fantasy artist who did a lot of covers for for Heavy Metal. I tried to find it at AllPosters.com but didn't see it. So I ordered his Gothic poster instead.  8)
(http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/17/1713/HCR1D00Z.jpg)

You know women are funny
I have girls like that hanging in my study from way when I was at university
I refused all those years to remove them
If I bought a new one however I probably would be kicked were it hurts ; but if  bought
a five ounce gold coin with the naked maya on it , she would say pretty coin  ::)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 01, 2010, 08:04:48 AM
You pervert  ;D :D ;)

You want to make an old man drool  ::) :'( ::)

Where did you find that piece of art ? I read a sci fi novel where every male or female had
an accompaning animal "twin" . This looks like a illustration for that book .

Maybe Terry should put that on the front cover of his next book to boost sales  ;D

It said that it was Luis Royo's. A pretty famous fantasy artist who did a lot of covers for for Heavy Metal. I tried to find it at AllPosters.com but didn't see it. So I ordered his Gothic poster instead.  8)
(http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/17/1713/HCR1D00Z.jpg)

You know women are funny
I have girls like that hanging in my study from way when I was at university
I refused all those years to remove them
If I bought a new one however I probably would be kicked were it hurts ; but if  bought
a five ounce gold coin with the naked maya on it , she would say pretty coin  ::)

IMO silver has a character that resembles women--unfathomable.  That's why we get slaughtered speculation in the stuff. She kind has that crazy silver look to her too doesn't she?  Like: "Feeling lucky bobbitt? C'mon speculate on me."  ;D

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 01, 2010, 08:25:04 AM
I want her soooooo bad!!! ;D I can see my next book cover is going to be somewhat different than my first!!!! ;)  PYW I got to find a fantasy artist and get a copy of that in case I don't!!! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 09:01:56 AM
I think we just made a double bottom by gold and HUI going up 5.5%
I hope we can avoid the most dangerous of all formations ; the infamous triple bottom

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3102&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 09:52:58 PM
US missile test mimicking Iran strike fails
By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON, Feb 1 (Reuters) – A U.S. attempt to shoot down a ballistic missile mimicking an attack from Iran failed after a malfunction in a radar built by Raytheon Co, the Defense Department said.

The abortive test over the Pacific Ocean coincided with a Pentagon report that Iran had expanded its ballistic missile capabilities and posed a "significant" threat to U.S. and allied forces in the Middle East region.

The Missile Defense Agency said that in Sunday’s test both the target missile, fired from Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands, and the interceptor, from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, had performed normally.

"However, the Sea-Based X-band radar did not perform as expected," the agency said on its web site. Officials will investigate the cause of the failure to intercept, it said.

The SBX radar is a major component of the ground-based midcourse defense, the sole U.S. bulwark against long-range missiles that could be tipped with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads.

More…
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0120076120100201
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 09:55:19 PM
Police selling their choppers on ebay ?

Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many
By Michael Booth
The Denver Post
Posted: 01/31/2010 01:00:00 AM MST

COLORADO SPRINGS — This tax-averse city is about to learn what it looks and feels like when budget cuts slash services most Americans consider part of the urban fabric.

More than a third of the streetlights in Colorado Springs will go dark Monday. The police helicopters are for sale on the Internet. The city is dumping firefighting jobs, a vice team, burglary investigators, beat cops — dozens of police and fire positions will go unfilled.

The parks department removed trash cans last week, replacing them with signs urging users to pack out their own litter.

Neighbors are encouraged to bring their own lawn mowers to local green spaces, because parks workers will mow them only once every two weeks. If that.

Water cutbacks mean most parks will be dead, brown turf by July; the flower and fertilizer budget is zero.

More…
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2010, 09:58:04 PM
OK Bo is forthcoming for goldbugs
3.8 Trillion shortage next year looks more like it
Do you remember last year when I posted about Trillions and nobody responded ?

Quote
Obama plans to propose a $3.8T budget today for FY 2011, with deficit projections at a record $1.6T for this year. Congressional sources say Obama’s proposal will bring the deficit down to $700B, or 4% of GDP, by 2013, though to do so Obama will have to secure some spending cuts that have been previously failed to gain support. The 2011 deficit will surpass the current fiscal year’s deficit of $1.4T, in part because of new spending for a proposed jobs package "somewhere in the $100B range."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 02, 2010, 05:30:19 AM
I remember P Y W. Also noted on another site that of the "proposed" deficit, multipy that number by 3 and that IS the deficit. Now this DOESN'T count the trillions of social security funds that congress stole.....and left I O U notes. I O U notes? Worthless!!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 02, 2010, 05:58:17 AM
I remember P Y W. Also noted on another site that of the "proposed" deficit, multipy that number by 3 and that IS the deficit. Now this DOESN'T count the trillions of social security funds that congress stole.....and left I O U notes. I O U notes? Worthless!!

What really beats me how some sites can seriously discuss deflation
Deflation would mean a New Dollar , no other way . And a New Dollar
would be inflation hidden away anyway.
Last year Jim Sinclair mentioned numbers like 400 Trillion that would needed
to be created out of thin air . That is 0.4 Quadrillion
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 02, 2010, 05:59:26 AM
double erased
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 02, 2010, 08:14:02 AM
I've heard talk that the deficits are going to hit a tipping point soon where the world's capital markets won't even have enough money available to finance it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 02, 2010, 08:36:01 AM
Fear not people of the world. The U.S. is going to creep from the edges of financial disaster doing the only thing that could possibly save us! We, from the mouth of BO, will spend millions to build a new train? :o  Can anyone see any light at the end of that tunnel? :'(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 02, 2010, 09:08:05 AM
Fear not people of the world. The U.S. is going to creep from the edges of financial disaster doing the only thing that could possibly save us! We, from the mouth of BO, will spend millions to build a new train? :o  Can anyone see any light at the end of that tunnel? :'(

The light at the end of the tunnel is another train coming at us at speed ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 02, 2010, 02:08:40 PM
What beer?  Give them enough time and "urgent" programs and  taxes  will be so high all that will be available is boot-leg likker and Jake leg. But  I suppose there will be  free medical care for the Jake leg  from all the taxes paid out for factory likker. :D

BTW, It was the fed with taxpayer money that bailed out  Penn Central. It became Amtrak. And what a wonderful shovel ready job they did with it, eh?  ;D

With regards to inflation, where's the surprise in that? Where's the Black Swan? And what would be the point of all these cockroaches screwing the country blue only to see their stealings stolen from them through hyper inflation?  Ha, ha, that would be English Privateers stealing the silver that the  Spaniards plundered from the Inca.  Coproate cockroaches already know that trick.  :o

Where's the inflation for  Japan? Their debt is  210% of GDP last I heard; something even we haven't done yet. Although BO is working pretty hard at it--we'll be number one at something at least when we can print faster than they can.  But what has it done for them?   Japan has been running the printing press 24/7 for 20 years and got nothing but deflation/depression.
http://dailyreckoning.com/economic-recovery-the-unresolved-mysteries/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 02, 2010, 09:16:23 PM
What beer?  Give them enough time and "urgent" programs and  taxes  will be so high all that will be available is boot-leg likker and Jake leg. But  I suppose there will be  free medical care for the Jake leg  from all the taxes paid out for factory likker. :D

BTW, It was the fed with taxpayer money that bailed out  Penn Central. It became Amtrak. And what a wonderful shovel ready job they did with it, eh?  ;D

With regards to inflation, where's the surprise in that? Where's the Black Swan? And what would be the point of all these cockroaches screwing the country blue only to see their stealings stolen from them through hyper inflation?  Ha, ha, that would be English Privateers stealing the silver that the  Spaniards plundered from the Inca.  Coproate cockroaches already know that trick.  :o

Where's the inflation for  Japan? Their debt is  210% of GDP last I heard; something even we haven't done yet. Although BO is working pretty hard at it--we'll be number one at something at least when we can print faster than they can.  But what has it done for them?   Japan has been running the printing press 24/7 for 20 years and got nothing but deflation/depression.
http://dailyreckoning.com/economic-recovery-the-unresolved-mysteries/

Japan distructed its wealth when all those mobsters could no longer pay the real estate they bought. But my neighbours father is still at work age 80 and they have / had
an enourmous savings rate as a nation . And their purchases are "replacement" not really new purchases . So work till they drop and save all the time and still sold good cars to the world . So I guess no inflation because little need for purchases . On the other hand I seem to understand a Kobe steak is now upwards of 100$ . Also I guess that all the money they
printed staid largely inside of Japan because of the high savings rate .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 02, 2010, 09:18:31 PM
02 February 2010
Is Blackrock Buying the US Equity Market?


One might conjecture from this enormous number of 13G filings noted below that Blackrock has taken what appears to be new 5+% stakes in over 1,800 US equities.

    "We counted over 1,800 13Gs that Blackrock dumped on Friday...For those less familiar with the 13G...it’s a requirement when ownership exceeds 5% of the outstanding shares...these filings represented new positions for Blackrock since we only counted 11 amended 13Gs, which in itself seems very surprising, given the long list of stocks."

Holy guacamole!

Perhaps this is an error, or a misreading of the data. Someone 'fat-fingered' the Edgar filing button.

We are incredulous that a private investment firm, no matter how well connected, could have taken 5+% positions in most of the NY listed equity market so quickly. Driven madly bullish, with enormously deep pockets, and an abiding faith in their ability to defy the odds? Facilitating the hostile takeover of the rest of US real economy by a cabal of bonus taking Bonapartes? Starting a new Blackrock 1800 index fund from the bottom up, build it and they will come? LOL

Certainly the SEC will inquire as to their intentions, which is the purpose of such filings, and an explanation to the investment public will be forthcoming.

We suggested the other day that Blackrock and the NY Fed might turn out to be Obama's Halliburton and KBR - private contractors fulfilling administration policy. NY Fed Conspired to Hide Details of AIG There are repeated rumours of an invisible hand in several markets, as an arm of Washington. But this is a bit much.

The Robert Rubin Rule of Financial Crisis Management was stated in the mid 1990's. It held that buying SP futures to prop the stock market was cheaper than trying to clean up the mess after a stock market panic. But this was not about actually buying the market; it was about using price to manage perception, in the manner recommended by Edward Bernays.

The problem with this doctrine, of course, is that it requires larger and more pervasive interventions to maintain the illusion, unless the underlying conditions that set the primary market trend are changed. Rather like creating a short term euphoria by treating a patient with pain killers, to the point of harmful addiction, without addressing the underlying condition.

But buying over 5 percent positions in 1,800 listed equities? That is not your father's market rigging, and certainly a step above buying the SP futures contracts. Clumsy and heavy-handed to say the least.

Skeptically waiting, we are keen to see the clarification, legitimate investment or data error. Regardless of the punter, it's a hell of a bet if that is what it is.

Postscript with tongue still in cheek: As I suspected they are rebranding their ETF's purchased from Barclay's. Impressive amount of stock behind it. Still a hell of a bet, just risk spread more widely. They are just taking the management fees, the public is putting up the capital. LOL

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-is-blackrock-broadly-buying-big.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 03, 2010, 01:59:30 AM
What beer?  Give them enough time and "urgent" programs and  taxes  will be so high all that will be available is boot-leg likker and Jake leg. But  I suppose there will be  free medical care for the Jake leg  from all the taxes paid out for factory likker. :D

BTW, It was the fed with taxpayer money that bailed out  Penn Central. It became Amtrak. And what a wonderful shovel ready job they did with it, eh?  ;D

With regards to inflation, where's the surprise in that? Where's the Black Swan? And what would be the point of all these cockroaches screwing the country blue only to see their stealings stolen from them through hyper inflation?  Ha, ha, that would be English Privateers stealing the silver that the  Spaniards plundered from the Inca.  Coproate cockroaches already know that trick.  :o

Where's the inflation for  Japan? Their debt is  210% of GDP last I heard; something even we haven't done yet. Although BO is working pretty hard at it--we'll be number one at something at least when we can print faster than they can.  But what has it done for them?   Japan has been running the printing press 24/7 for 20 years and got nothing but deflation/depression.
http://dailyreckoning.com/economic-recovery-the-unresolved-mysteries/

Japan distructed its wealth when all those mobsters could no longer pay the real estate they bought. But my neighbours father is still at work age 80 and they have / had
an enourmous savings rate as a nation . And their purchases are "replacement" not really new purchases . So work till they drop and save all the time and still sold good cars to the world . So I guess no inflation because little need for purchases . On the other hand I seem to understand a Kobe steak is now upwards of 100$ . Also I guess that all the money they
printed staid largely inside of Japan because of the high savings rate .

Do you remember when I switched back to a safty razor instead of tracll? This is what bothers me about the hyper inflation theory. I'm not saying that it can't or won't happen only that the circumstances today are different from the 70's. People today will find ways to end run price increases because they have no choice. They are out of credit, out of equity lines, out of work, and like Billy Joel said their "union people crawled away..."--Allentown.  In the 70's people or unions just bargained for more money and paid higher prices which went still higher from higher labor costs. People don't have pricing power for their labor anymore and BO is day dreaming if he thinks he can bring unions back from dead.

People are going to find ways and substitutes to end run price increases because they have no choice. They also have more time on their hands to think of ways. They're also just going to do without crap that they never needed in the first place.

Downward mobility is upcycling which is almost too funny--down really will be for certain businesses such as those who sell home beer brewing supplies  ;D or anything that will save money. 

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Post by: longnine009 on February 03, 2010, 02:10:23 AM
I'm thinking that this is an opportunity to put one of our x-presidents relatives back to work.

Maybe that train can serve this beer on it's way to Washington:

Musings of the first President Carter:

"I'm going to let the American people home brew their own beer. Let's see now, my brother Billy he drinks 6,000 gallons of beer a year but I think he might be a little excessive so let's go with 600 gallons a year."

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 03, 2010, 02:31:41 AM
If the US needed nothing from the outside world they would not be running such huge
trade deficits . If they eliminate the trade deficits half of the problem is allready solved
You can only avoid inflation if you import nothing and your farmers are willing to sell you
the food you need at the "old" price .
About 40 years ago an engineer told me a chicken egg costed like 2$ in the Belgian Congo
Of course you do not need eggs but sometimes you want them
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 03, 2010, 08:56:22 AM
This is todays goldchart
Gold is at a critical juncture shorterm pushing a downline

Can somebody tell me what happens if he clicks on the link ?
I get the chart automatically in full seize in Microsoft Suite Picture Manager
But I wonder what happens if you do not have that Picture Manager
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 03, 2010, 12:54:51 PM
Most folks only want what they can't have and after selling their souls to get it they find out much too late they didn't need it. Usually when the first months payments start arriving! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 03, 2010, 02:01:52 PM
I got a full picture with firefox. Of it took AT&T about five minutes to download it, but that's because they suck. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 03, 2010, 02:29:27 PM

You can only avoid inflation if you import nothing and your farmers are willing to sell you
the food you need at the "old" price .
 

If they don't they'll be exiled  to Dan Quayle's  special little Island. :D
 (http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinImages/Barbados/Barbados-1D-1788.obv.med.jpg)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 03, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
Thanks for trying
It seems emails to aol and comcast have problems with my png pics so
I told dharmeye I would post them here . But uploading to the gallery is
a time consuming hassle . So knowing I can put a thumbnail saves me time.
We are working towards an early march gold minipeak
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 03, 2010, 09:02:59 PM
Italy seizes assets of Banc of America and Belgian Dexia bank

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Feb. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Italy’s financial police are seizing 73.3 million euros ($102 million) of assets from Bank of America Corp. and a unit of Dexia SA as part of a probe into an alleged derivatives fraud in the region of Apulia.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWJC2mYeMKqg&pos=5
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 03, 2010, 09:42:53 PM
Gee ; they miscalculated 800 000 jobless
How come shadowstats does not miscalculate ?
But it is sad that you have to pay to know the goverment stat truths

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U.S. May Lose 824,000 Jobs as Employment Data Revised: Analysis

Feb. 3 (Bloomberg Multimedia) — The U.S. may lose 824,000 jobs when the government releases its annual revision to employment data on Feb. 5, showing the labor market was in worse shape during the recession than known at the time.

Click http://www.bloomberg.com/insight/birth-death-model.html for a Bloomberg Multimedia interactive visual analysis of the economy’s job losses.

More… 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 04, 2010, 12:38:10 AM
How can they say GDP grew 5.7 percent? What are they doing counting "fogging a mirror" as economic activity?

The real GDP is probably (5.7%) because the slobs that come up with stuff are too sorry to even use some imagination when they are lying. So they just flip the truth 180 degree and go back on break.

Why do people believe this stuff? Why are trillions invested on wallstreet base on these "reports," and invested by many who know we have been lied to consistently since the Warren Commission "report?" 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 04, 2010, 03:40:59 AM
Oh-oh, Now at 10:40am C T in the U S, gold is down $46/oz and silver down .83c/oz.....methinks I'll buy more.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 04, 2010, 06:10:44 AM
Sell everything and buy dollars  ;D :D 8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 04, 2010, 08:02:19 AM
Yeah and go out and sell your bicycle and get a cheap new $35,000 truck. When you lose your house you can live in the truck! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 04, 2010, 08:33:18 AM
Yeah and go out and sell your bicycle and get a cheap new $35,000 truck. When you lose your house you can live in the truck! ;D

That is the only solution ; cause an american friend of mine his mother has a trailer in a park and she could not give it away ; even to charity because the costs are too high . ???
After six months they finally found somebody willing to accept it . He is probably shipping
it to China if he knows what he is doing .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 04, 2010, 09:05:53 AM
I am getting ready for some good old hole in the ground living! Nothing like planning ahead!!! Need some help deciding what to do? Go to earthbagbuilding.com for ideas the whole world should have been using! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 04, 2010, 12:12:02 PM
I can give him some pointers on where to buy sandbags cheap! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 04, 2010, 02:13:14 PM
Sell everything and buy dollars  ;D :D 8)

Ha, ha, that's the ole Nathan Rothschild trick "Sell sterling buy Francs" -- after Waterloo. Then he bought up most of the London exchange with the profits.

What did BO  think would happen after propping  up the weak, dumb and lazy? That the Imperial Leprechaun was really going to  grant him three wishes and his TARpit turds  would become  stronger,  smarter and enterprising?  ::)

What's next-- Special Olympics on the white house lawn to help AIG, Citi and BOA feel good about themselves?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 04, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
Sell everything and buy dollars  ;D :D 8)

Ha, ha, that's the ole Nathan Rothschild trick "Sell sterling buy Francs" -- after Waterloo. Then he bought up most of the London exchange with the profits.

What did BO  think would happen after propping  up the weak, dumb and lazy? That the Imperial Leprechaun was really going to  grant him three wishes and his TARpit turds  would become  stronger,  smarter and enterprising?  ::)

What's next-- Special Olympics on the white house lawn to help AIG, Citi and BOA feel good about themselves?

Rotschild was on the stockmarket floor and everybody new he had the fastest boats and horses and couriers reporting on the battle of Waterloo . So he acted has if Napoleon was winning ( which he was untill the Prussians arrived ) and stampeded a market crash
When he knew Napoleon had lost he bought everything for a song and dance
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 04, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
Next in Line for a Bailout: Social Security
by Allan Sloan
Thursday, February 4, 2010

Don’t look now. But even as the bank bailout is winding down, another huge bailout is starting, this time for the Social Security system.

A report from the Congressional Budget Office shows that for the first time in 25 years, Social Security is taking in less in taxes than it is spending on benefits.

Instead of helping to finance the rest of the government, as it has done for decades, our nation’s biggest social program needs help from the Treasury to keep benefit checks from bouncing — in other words, a taxpayer bailout.

No one has officially announced that Social Security will be cash-negative this year. But you can figure it out for yourself, as I did, by comparing two numbers in the recent federal budget update that the nonpartisan CBO issued last week.

http://finance.yahoo.com/focus-retirement/article/108747/next-in-line-for-a-bailout-social-security?mod=fidelity-readytoretire
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 04, 2010, 09:35:58 PM
Whilst I write this , gold is testing 1050 $ resistance then 1025 and 1000
Somewhere this month may be a nice buying opportunity
BWTFDIK  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on February 05, 2010, 01:05:56 AM
Thanks for trying
It seems emails to aol and comcast have problems with my png pics so
I told dharmeye I would post them here . But uploading to the gallery is
a time consuming hassle . So knowing I can put a thumbnail saves me time.
We are working towards an early march gold minipeak

Worked great - good detail.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 05, 2010, 02:39:36 AM
Has anyone noticed how many horror movies are out now? Or just depressing movies like District 9? Movies are what Sun Tzu called "trifling details" that one must always pay attention to for even the dust tells a story: Dust flumes in the distant chariots are coming, wide swaths of dust in the distance--infantry is coming.    And so,  with Prechter's wave theory/socionomics a  rash of dead end horror movies signals a top in the aggregate negative mood.  

So it may be that the "good times" are just around the corner.  But I doubt that it will last long or have much depth.  Long enough maybe to napalm  the "stocks for the long haul" crowd. Hopefully long enough to toast the cockroach crowd that have been robbing the taxpayers.

But if Prechter is right this is what  Bernanke and the Imperial Leprechaun  think they are going to beat:
*********************************************************************************************************************************************
"'The world as we know it has changed'  is a correct statement, but it did not change 'now.' It changed between January 14 and March 24, 2000, a two month period during which the three major U.S. stock market indexes signaled the end of the Grand Supercycle uptrend that had been in force for 214 years. We are only now beginning to feel the lagging results of that change..."  

"...Right now, we can say with confidence, we are at the beginning of a long period of social unrest, and while it will wax and wane with the waves, overall it will intensify..."

Robert R. Prechter Jr. Pioneering Studies In Socionomics  p.184  *a marvelous book!*
***********************************************************************************************************************************************

IMO, anyone who clings to the belief that things are going to go back to normal is clinging to the belief that Bernanke and Geithner can stop a  Grand Super Cycle.  It's not likely that even smart people can do that.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 05, 2010, 03:02:43 AM
somewhere back in history, someone invented the wheel. someone else invented the internal combustion engine. they even put someone on the moon. HOW THE UK HAS FINALLY BEAT THEM ALL BY COMING UP WITH THE UNBREAKABLE PINT GLASS FOR USE IN THEIR PUBS.  They are saying how much it will save the country in broken glass each year.  Now why don't BO take a look at what the british are doing and get on the band wagon?

Gee why does Brown  even  care if the beer mugs break as long as he gets his  beer tax. Or does the new beer mug have a save the world in 50 days or we'll all die in seething horror tax on it?  Why are they promoting beer? Surely  beer production must  do something to destroy the world.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2010, 03:27:21 AM
It seems fashion colors for spring are greyish and brownish
Straight from the depression handbook

Did you also notice virtually no big newspaper worldwide gives
any bad news anymore. It is all cloaked or omitted alltogether
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2010, 03:29:07 AM
Double post
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2010, 03:35:47 AM
somewhere back in history, someone invented the wheel. someone else invented the internal combustion engine. they even put someone on the moon. HOW THE UK HAS FINALLY BEAT THEM ALL BY COMING UP WITH THE UNBREAKABLE PINT GLASS FOR USE IN THEIR PUBS.  They are saying how much it will save the country in broken glass each year.  Now why don't BO take a look at what the british are doing and get on the band wagon?

Gee why does Brown  even  care if the beer mugs break as long as he gets his  beer tax. Or does the new beer mug have a save the world in 50 days or we'll all die in seething horror tax on it?  Why are they promoting beer? Surely  beer production must  do something to destroy the world.  ;D

An Englishman without pint of beer in his hand looks as quaint out of place as a Jap without cigarette in his hand  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on February 05, 2010, 05:00:05 AM
Bailed on all my stock - mostly Canroy's (Canadian Royalty Trust)
Looking for entry in to inverse funds.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2010, 05:00:46 AM
Looks like I will be buying when gold gets to 1020 like

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2010, 05:04:00 AM
Bailed on all my stock - mostly Canroy's (Canadian Royalty Trust)
Looking for entry in to inverse funds.

I still work with the assumption that 8 or 19 march will give a tradeble peak in the
96 or 107 days cycle
So I am not selling , churning only makes money for the gobetweens
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 05, 2010, 05:44:37 AM
It seems fashion colors for spring are greyish and brownish
Straight from the depression handbook

Did you also notice virtually no big newspaper worldwide gives
any bad news anymore. It is all cloaked or omitted alltogether

Some of them even take back stories, like Reuters taking down their BO's back door taxes story.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 05, 2010, 06:40:24 AM
It seems fashion colors for spring are greyish and brownish
Straight from the depression handbook


Maybe I'm crazy but I think  we really are going to see more women  in armor-like Gothic attire-- (we should be trend setters and have it on our KOTCT medal. ;D )  Maybe these women  won't be walking down main street, at least not too many of them, but more of it in theme environments. Isn't the Gothic "counter culture" already pretty big and growing? The mini skirt could not go low enough to accommodate an extended 5th super cycle wave so they invented the thong bikini. Now we may have a  5th wave Super Cycle and Grand Super Cycle  going from manic to depressive. These waves are going to be too big and intense to be accommodated by dresses that go from the hips to the floor. Those dresses will have to go straight down to hell to reflect a reversing Grand Super Cycle. Either that or something else will have to take it's place.

 The Underworld series has already happened--women vampire knights in armor kicking ass. And it was a big hit too.  I think the  Grand Super Cycle is upon us. And it ain't gonna be pretty.

Gothic, IMO,  is the key. At least until it's replaced by something else, which it may since a Grand Super Cycle is likely to last for a couple of centuries.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2010, 08:36:55 AM
Short term I think we put in a bottom in gold stocks today
Hope so

Did you mean Buffy the Vampire Slayer ?

We have a disgusting series going on TV called Aussie Border Security
It makes me puke .
I have been humiliated by the best , The British in Britain  ???
Even a public body frisking including personnal parts  ::)
If they tried that again now 20 years later I would have my lawyer sue the limeys
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 05, 2010, 08:48:58 AM
Come on over! The only thing that is still free over here is the personal "pat down!" Of course if you bring your luggage be prepared to pay through the teeth to take it with you! ;D Everyone ought to show up at an airport buck naked to see how they like that. That would eliminate all kinds of securtiy expenses wouldn't it? Save millions! ;D Everyone would want to work at an airport then and the line forms right behind me!!! ;D

Personally, Longnine, I would suggest we all think about the most remarkable science fiction movies and brace yourself for whats coming. Most folks can't even begin to see the truth in anything as they have been snowballed so long they don't know what truth is any longer! Whatever gets them through another mundane day will suffice! :'(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2010, 09:08:56 AM
In the US when I said I worked for Monsanto I never had any custom trouble
Not event that one time I had like 12 pound boxes of Belgian Chocolates
for personal use during my 7 days stay
They even believed I had no mental illness and had not been on a farm  ::)

I love Firefly the film and the series ( Serenity )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 06, 2010, 02:03:11 AM
I finally got the first wife of Napoleon I that is Joséphine de Beauharnais
who had several men and children before but could not give a child to
Napoleon I because of a bad abortion
The fields are higher then the rim like the original High Relief Double Eagles
Therefore the effigy touches the scanner instead of the rim and gives the false
impression of slide . There is no slide
Since the stupid vendor terminated his sale on a bad hour of a bad day I
got it for 12% below melt  :D And the vendor delivered after trying to say I did not
pay and I sent him a copy of the bankassured transfer of guaranteed funds  ;D

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3104&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 06, 2010, 03:55:17 AM
Thanks Old Dan

Can anyone tell me in what countries it would be allowed to use attached bittorent
to this unusual coin catalogue ? and the other catalogs ? In Sweden it is legal

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5336832/2005_Standard_Catalog_of_Unusual_World_Coins__Krause__4th_Editio

http://thepiratebay.org/search/catalog%20coins/0/99/0


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Unusual World Coins: Companion Volume to Standard Catalog of World Coins.
Krause Publications; 4 edition (July 1, 2005)

Coin collectors who just can't locate listings for those odd or novelty coins in their collections will find them in this long-awaited fourth edition of Unusual World Coins. This book has coverage of over 400 years of micro-nation coinage, fantasy issues (such as Middle Earth - Lord of the Rings), medieval fair coinage, historical fantasy and pretender issues. There are also new listings for experimental Euro coins tested prior to conversion and medallic Euro coins from non-Euro countries.

Listings contain up-to-date pricing in up to five grades of condition, as well as detailed identification information and hundreds of illustrations, making identification fast and easy. Inside, collectors will find everything from old fantasy favorites like Sealand and Atlantis to new medallic issues from globally recognized land-based countries.
  

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 06, 2010, 08:39:07 AM
Maybe it's not a coin but a French medal? One thing about the French,  they can sure make pretty   medals.  8)

Napoleon should have stayed home with Josephine instead of going out and bothering everyone. The only one who got ahead in  his campaigns was Rothschild in the London exchange after Waterloo. Oh, he was probably financing all sides as well.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 06, 2010, 09:40:48 AM
Longnine it is good to see another who has things figured out. Throughout history and still today the same wealthy individuals are financing ALL sides. Monetarily they cannot lose as funds come back from every direction and, regardless who wins they are still in control. That is the real world we live in. ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 06, 2010, 11:43:38 PM
Maybe it's not a coin but a French medal? One thing about the French,  they can sure make pretty   medals.  8)

Napoleon should have stayed home with Josephine instead of going out and bothering everyone. The only one who got ahead in  his campaigns was Rothschild in the London exchange after Waterloo. Oh, he was probably financing all sides as well.

Of course it is a medal . I know of no coin with the first empress on it . And why else would I get an MS62 12% below melt
Joséphine was third hand used, abused and probably dangerous . Napoleon should have gotten himselt a young virgin he liked ; given bread and games to the plebs ; and played monopoly instead of warring on the Russians . However if the Prussians had not showed at Waterloo he still would be the winner .
I once read a sci fi story where a timetraveler goes
back and makes Napoleon take a right turn at crossroads which puts him behind the Prussians . The outcome was like the end of the world . People drugged into believing they were eating fine foods whilst they were eating pig grub .
Much like the reports I read about Americans eating cat food now .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2010, 12:32:17 AM
For you gold and miner fans
Gold in weekly chart is super oversold
Next week we sink or we party
I am buying

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 07, 2010, 01:04:31 AM
PYW that report has to be untrue!   We can't afford cat food!!!! :'(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2010, 02:16:46 AM
PYW that report has to be untrue!   We can't afford cat food!!!! :'(

Yes I thought as much
10 Years ago they said it was dogfood ( better quality and better price then normal cans)
I love the horsemeat my dogs get  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2010, 03:14:05 AM
I love the horsemeat my dogs get  ;)
Please don't make fun of horse meat. The best quarter horse I ever owned broke his leg in a gopher hole, and I had to put him down. Shame to waist such a fine animal, so I helped myself to a steak. As I remember, it was a little bit sweeter than beef, but other than that not much different.

We have freestanding "camper stands" that sell french fries with about anything you like
One of the things is horsemeat stewed in brown beer . I love it .
It tastes a little stronger then cowstew and his like  66% of the price of cowstew
For stew I prefer horsemeat above any cow meat . Unless we are talking veggy stew
then I prefer sheep with turnips and carrots and brussels sprouts and potatoes
Today I made froglegs . You heat toadstools and onions and red peppers and green peppers like chinese fry and when all the water is gone you had half a liter of water with tomato concentrate and salt and pepper . Bring to taste with curry ketchup and then during 5 minutes add the froglegs and serve with french fries and red beaujolais wine
Tonight I will heat the remainder and poor it over fried eggs with fresh bread . Delicious
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 07, 2010, 08:10:24 AM
When I was much younger I spent many a night searching for frogs to put on the table. We had a few ponds near here that were stocked with Georgia Bullfrogs and they were huge. Those frogs put chicken to shame and I might add frogs don't eat their own poop! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2010, 09:39:49 AM
When I was much younger I spent many a night searching for frogs to put on the table. We had a few ponds near here that were stocked with Georgia Bullfrogs and they were huge. Those frogs put chicken to shame and I might add frogs don't eat their own poop! ;D

I never searched for frogs though the french do . Also there is that variety of garden snails
you depoison by feeding them lettuce and then you stuff them in garlic butter and ovenfry them ( Escargot de Bourgogne)
Horses and chickens have grains passing thru their digestive tracts and so birds will come and pick what is eatable out of their droppings.
It is like the joke; not everybody covering you in shit is your ennemy  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2010, 09:52:17 AM
At greenwhich plus 1 witching hour is upon me
Goodnight all  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 07, 2010, 10:36:13 AM
PYW that report has to be untrue!   We can't afford cat food!!!! :'(

I eat the cat and save money.--for savings bonds   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 07, 2010, 10:48:13 AM
For you gold and miner fans
Gold in weekly chart is super oversold
Next week we sink or we party
I am buying

I think she might make a good  concierge for your party.
 (http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/35/3591/ZMM2F00Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 07, 2010, 11:00:41 AM
You'll eat the cat and save money for savings bonds? Don't you mean war bonds? Also the Secretary of Defense? Let's retrogress to 'The Secretary of War'.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 07, 2010, 02:41:01 PM
Beg your pardon Old Dan, but to me they are the same......they both finance(d) wars. Then the guv'ment claim that these bonds pay xxx interest. They don't pay what they claim because you're TAXED on the interest you earn. I had a WWII bond that an aunt bought for me and I cashed it in after 40 yrs. Boy, did the guv'ment hammer the interest.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 07, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
For you gold and miner fans
Gold in weekly chart is super oversold
Next week we sink or we party
I am buying

I think she might make a good  concierge for your party.
 (http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/35/3591/ZMM2F00Z.jpg)

She distracted me so much I forgot the main point. For all those years of people snickering and sneering at gold and "goldbugs,"  her name is "Revenge."   8) Although she probably has more in common with silver than gold. Male=sun/gold  Female=moon/silver.  But I don't think "silver bugs" will mind if she visits with the  "gold bugs."  She always comes back to us.  ;D

Unfortunately, she sometimes uses that  menacing sword on us too. -- "Where are those phallus symbol serpents at?"   :(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 07, 2010, 10:40:16 PM
You'll eat the cat and save money for savings bonds? Don't you mean war bonds? Also the Secretary of Defense? Let's retrogress to 'The Secretary of War'.

They should be called donation bonds since they are  used to financé  "cat food" for the whinny little  craptialist and socialist feral cats. I say  Keep the cat food and eat the cats-- before they eat us.

I owned a savings bond once. I bought it in 1976 and cashed it five years later in 1981. I got paid $51.50 for it instead of $50. But I believe interest being paid on CD's was something like 10 or 12% at the time. So even with the extra interest, it was still pathetic.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2010, 11:51:55 PM
I seem to remember that I got a basket of bonds at age 18 from my grandfather " Concentra" or something like that .
I sold them at age 21 for 95% of their original purchase price and bought gold double eagles which doubled and then doubled again .
I never ever had bonds again . My mistake because like around 1980 they issued bonds with a 20% coupon
which in later years gave the intrest and the increase value of the bond
I think in those days the state took 20% tax and the banks like 2% in cost etc
Nowadays overnight savingsaccounts which are taxfree up to like 1600 euro of intrest per person per year
are the only way to go if you want to go that way .
It is impossible to live of your intrests if you are not "stinking rich"
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2010, 12:41:33 AM
Why is it they allways want us to believe the future is better then the here and now  ???

Future P/E are allways looking better tomorrow then today

http://seekingalpha.com/article/187135-hedging-with-gold-miners?source=email
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 12:56:36 AM
I don't remember who but someone called bonds "guaranteed confiscation."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 01:17:27 AM
Why is it they allways want us to believe the future is better then the here and now  ???

Future P/E are allways looking better tomorrow then today

http://seekingalpha.com/article/187135-hedging-with-gold-miners?source=email

I expect to hear nothing but "well actually" crap from wallstreet. Their day has passed and soon their BMW's will too. No one needs an investment banker to buy gold or silver eagles. They should just go to work for the war lords, since they do excel at stealing.

Maybe  BO and  his sea hag can team up and make it illegal to invest in anything but Failie and Flunkie.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 02:55:16 AM
WELCOME TO FLORIDA--see it like a real estate baron.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/14229/crow18.jpg)

I always though all birds were "decomposers" but crows and buzzards seem to get special recognition for that, at least from Hollywood.  I never seen or heard a crow in S. Florida until a few years ago. Now they're all over the place. Some times flocks of them.  Let's see now what happened a few years ago in Flawduh? Oh that's right, blazing saddles on real estate barons.

Another super bowl upset last night. The last one I remember was the Giants in 2008 upsetting New England--who only lost one game for the season. Let's see now, any other note worthy upsets in 2008?  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2010, 03:17:16 AM
You know that "revenge" looks much too serene

The last week I have been watching  the first four films in a series of five
I saw when I was young ( So called historic films / Love films)
The Angélique series
The villain is Louis XIV which surprises me since he was the Sun King
The female lead is Michèle Mercier as Angélique with instant recognition as Diva
The damn thing is that the writer of the books got taken by the publishers and the woman
writer is close to poverty and that Michèle the lead cast got taken for several millions and both seem to have little left from what must have been a blockbuster 5 films in a few years time now selling again on high quality DVD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mich%C3%A8le_Mercier

(http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/8/9/89iqrpl5z3b1lpzi.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 03:23:49 AM
You know that "revenge" looks much too serene

Women and silver-- "Your like a hurricane, there's calm in your eye..." Neil Young

Oh yeah, I ordered that poster too.   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2010, 03:38:04 AM
You know that "revenge" looks much too serene

Women and silver-- "Your like a hurricane, their calm in your eye..." Neil Young

Oh yeah, I ordered that poster too.   ;D

Do you have a mile long wall or do you store the posters rolled up to be unrolled
behind shuttered windows in the dark of the night ?  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2010, 06:26:38 AM
What performance are they talking about ?

Quote
Most Independents Disapprove of Obama’s Performance, Poll Finds   

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a6580.gnX.1c&pos=8
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2010, 06:36:12 AM
HUI with Fibos
HUI is levitating on thin air , a prayer and a single fibo
Gold is steadier then the mood swings of the shares today
Another day over another day gone

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 08:06:45 AM
I didn't know they had mood index for gold bugs. I guess as long as the trough is ascending all is good? Do they have one for silver bugs?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 08:09:00 AM
You know that "revenge" looks much too serene

Women and silver-- "Your like a hurricane, their calm in your eye..." Neil Young

Oh yeah, I ordered that poster too.   ;D

Do you have a mile long wall or do you store the posters rolled up to be unrolled
behind shuttered windows in the dark of the night ?  ;)

No, I'll put one in my computer room in front of me and the other one in the bedroom to look at when I first get up.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 08:31:10 AM
Mogambo Guru is back!

http://dailyreckoning.com/inflation-ignoring-doesnt-make-it-go-away/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2010, 08:59:44 AM
I didn't know they had mood index for gold bugs. I guess as long as the trough is ascending all is good? Do they have one for silver bugs?

I cannot remember having seen one for silver. But in view of my reluctance to buy whatsoever today
( but I nearly never buy on mondays or fridays) I think the bottom for gold and goldshares is close.
So that I will curse myself again for losing an easy 10% return  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2010, 09:00:50 AM
Mogambo Guru is back!

http://dailyreckoning.com/inflation-ignoring-doesnt-make-it-go-away/

Superb
Thanks
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
I didn't know they had mood index for gold bugs. I guess as long as the trough is ascending all is good? Do they have one for silver bugs?

I cannot remember having seen one for silver. But in view of my reluctance to buy whatsoever today
( but I nearly never buy on mondays or fridays) I think the bottom for gold and goldshares is close.
So that I will curse myself again for losing an easy 10% return  ???

Everyone should have been happy.  Federal offices  in D.C were closed today, but for some reason, the world did not come to an end.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 08, 2010, 02:46:19 PM
What performance are they talking about ?

His ability to pick losers: Health care reform, Crap & Tax and the Colts, who he picked to win the super bowl after he picked the Saints last week. 

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 09, 2010, 05:02:31 AM
I do not like the way the goldminers are zigzagging together with the Dow Jones
I do not like the way the short 6.3.3 daily slow stochs on gold are shooting up
without the price doing anything much
I do not like anything except I still keep 8 or 19 march as possible "100" day high on gold

The cycle slow stoch on the daily at 25.3.3 setting is trying to rise from its deathbed

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 09, 2010, 08:05:16 AM
Longnine I sure would like to know where I can get that poster. She is Knightess enough for my woodshop! PLEASE! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 09, 2010, 08:35:42 AM
If your referring to Revenge (the last one that I hotlinked)  it's at Allposters.com  $7.99 and $4.99 shipping I tried to paste a link to the poser but it's bs link that's are five miles long and  doesn't work. But if you go to Allposters.com and put Heavy Metal Revenge in you'll get it. It was a Heavy Metal cover and the name of it was "Revenge."

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 09, 2010, 10:20:34 PM
By my math 71% can't run their own life but they want to run my life and yours and the whole planet. They must be going freaking nuts not being able to tell the the planet want to do for the last two days.

                        "Do as we say, not as we do."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 09, 2010, 11:03:44 PM
I do not like the action in HUI
Indicators going higher and higher but price is not moving
Normally this means the next cycle high of 8 or 19 march nomally is going to be
a disappointment


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 01:01:05 AM
I'm  thinking that the whole quarter might not be too great, at least for silver. Trouble is when it tanks people still don't to sell any of it. They just seem to know silver's a she's and her mood shift the other way eventually.  If only there were a method of buying  Ms. Silver at depressed prices and then getting her drunk? ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 01:52:18 AM
********************************************************
  By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger, Ap Economics Writer   – 30 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The U.S. trade deficit surged to a larger-than-expected $40.18 billion in December, the biggest imbalance in 12 months. The wider deficit reflected a rebounding economy that is pushing up demand for imports.
********************************************************

Ha, ha, right, got it.  Someday AP will report the Apocalypse as just a WHO concert that got a little bawdy.

Say, why don't you guys kick out the Piigs and take in a real pig--Kalifornia? We'll give it  to the EU for free.  :D

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 01:55:45 AM
********************************************************
  By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger, Ap Economics Writer   – 30 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The U.S. trade deficit surged to a larger-than-expected $40.18 billion in December, the biggest imbalance in 12 months. The wider deficit reflected a rebounding economy that is pushing up demand for imports.
********************************************************

Ha, ha. Someday AP will report the Apocalypse as just a WHO concert that got a little bawdy.

Say, why don't you guys kick out the Piigs and take in a real pig--Kalifornia? We'll it give to the EU for free.  :D

The masters of high finance who sold a lot of gold rockbottom 250$ an ounce the great
british say that we should not help and keep Greece in the Euro .
Maybe they  are getting worried if Germany and France give it all to a Eurocountry like Greece there will be little left for the limeys . Well they got their pound non sterling to hang onto .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 02:00:15 AM
I'm  thinking that the whole quarter might not be too great, at least for silver. Trouble is when it tanks people still don't to sell any of it. They just seem to know silver's a she's and her mood shift the other way eventually.  If only there were a method of buying  Ms. Silver at depressed prices and then getting her drunk? ;D

I am afraid the "creazy" germans even bought all sterling silver cutlery there was to have
With a18 to21 % tax depending on the country , it is pure madness to go for silver .
Whence the endless stream of 0.1 gold ounce coins on a german coinforum where people
think the goldhigh is in and they find out nobody is willing to pay the huge premium they paid for those coins you hardly see without glasses. I think the Latin Union size of 5.8 grams in a 0.900 solution is the best pricewise since they still go for 1.5% over melt
The moment you have paid the spread and the tax you have lost 33% on an ounce of silver here in Europe
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 02:05:08 AM

Quote
Think the PIGS Are in Trouble? These 7 U.S. States Could Be Heading for Something Worse

Quote
The seven states to make my list are California, Florida, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, North Carolina, and New Jersey. Each has a population above 8 million people. Each has had to borrow more than a billion dollars, so far, to pay claims out of their now bankrupt unemployment insurance fund. Also, each state currently registers broad, underemployment above 15% as indicated by the U-6 measure for the States. And finally, each state is a large net importer of either oil, natural gas, electricity, or all three of these energy sources

http://seekingalpha.com/article/187051-think-the-pigs-are-in-trouble-these-7-u-s-states-could-be-heading-for-something-worse?source=article_sb_popular
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 03:21:04 AM
If your referring to Revenge (the last one that I hotlinked)  it's at Allposters.com  $7.99 and $4.99 shipping I tried to paste a link to the poser but it's bs link that's are five miles long and  doesn't work. But if you go to Allposters.com and put Heavy Metal Revenge in you'll get it. It was a Heavy Metal cover and the name of it was "Revenge."

But if your referring to this one:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KQDPJ8OLL._SL500_AA258_.jpg)
I found a fabric poster 30x40 at Amazon. Ha ha Amazons at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Luis-Royo-Warrior-Fantasy-Fabric/dp/B000YTZ22S/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1265818431&sr=8-2-fkmr1


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 03:54:57 AM
********************************************************
  By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger, Ap Economics Writer   – 30 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The U.S. trade deficit surged to a larger-than-expected $40.18 billion in December, the biggest imbalance in 12 months. The wider deficit reflected a rebounding economy that is pushing up demand for imports.
********************************************************

Ha, ha. Someday AP will report the Apocalypse as just a WHO concert that got a little bawdy.

Say, why don't you guys kick out the Piigs and take in a real pig--Kalifornia? We'll it give to the EU for free.  :D

The masters of high finance who sold a lot of gold rockbottom 250$ an ounce the great
british say that we should not help and keep Greece in the Euro .
Maybe they  are getting worried if Germany and France give it all to a Eurocountry like Greece there will be little left for the limeys . Well they got their pound non sterling to hang onto .

Yes it was the financial genius Gordon Brown who sold off England's gold in 1999. Now he's going to save the world for us.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 04:02:53 AM

Quote
Think the PIGS Are in Trouble? These 7 U.S. States Could Be Heading for Something Worse

Quote
The seven states to make my list are California, Florida, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, North Carolina, and New Jersey. Each has a population above 8 million people. Each has had to borrow more than a billion dollars, so far, to pay claims out of their now bankrupt unemployment insurance fund. Also, each state currently registers broad, underemployment above 15% as indicated by the U-6 measure for the States. And finally, each state is a large net importer of either oil, natural gas, electricity, or all three of these energy sources

http://seekingalpha.com/article/187051-think-the-pigs-are-in-trouble-these-7-u-s-states-could-be-heading-for-something-worse?source=article_sb_popular

Yes that sounds like a pretty good list.  Flawduh is really screwed because we're mostly a tourist state.  No one really *needs* to see a palm tree to survive. Most of them are infected with all kinds of bizarre fungus diseases anyway.  :o

Before this is over with, (in ten years not ten months) I think flawduh might be master of the universe for collapsing real estate. But on the good side we won't have to work too hard at becoming a zombie state. If you guys could take california off our hands that would leave more zombie money for flawduh.

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 04:33:49 AM
I was in Floridah for 3 weeks and really liked the Bounty and Disneyworld of course and waterworld and circusworld and Ripleys believe it or not
museum
Now I know I could believe half of it ( like the shrunken by jivaros head )
I saw the recipee in a scientific magazine
However we have Gran Canaria for the rich . Like 18-25 C all year round .
With all the storms in Florida and the great earthquake of Cali coming it are both
difficult to sell real estate pieces .
An idiot friend of mine bougth 40 years ago some florida land cheap ;
when he went to visit afterwards he saw why ; it was 4 inches under everglade water  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 05:02:09 AM
I'm  thinking that the whole quarter might not be too great, at least for silver. Trouble is when it tanks people still don't to sell any of it. They just seem to know silver's a she's and her mood shift the other way eventually.  If only there were a method of buying  Ms. Silver at depressed prices and then getting her drunk? ;D

I am afraid the "creazy" germans even bought all sterling silver cutlery there was to have
With a18 to21 % tax depending on the country , it is pure madness to go for silver .
Whence the endless stream of 0.1 gold ounce coins on a german coinforum where people
think the goldhigh is in and they find out nobody is willing to pay the huge premium they paid for those coins you hardly see without glasses. I think the Latin Union size of 5.8 grams in a 0.900 solution is the best pricewise since they still go for 1.5% over melt
The moment you have paid the spread and the tax you have lost 33% on an ounce of silver here in Europe

You just said it "The crazy Germans."  Ha ha, not exactly the first time they went crazy is it? IMO, silver is very symbolic to things that are backwards, like mirrors. And things that are crazy like the moon. Things that are "High and Low"  or manic depressive.  Silver itself  is bi-polar. The ore is black and turns white after refining.  Do yo see anything at all in the world that's not ass backward?--(silver mirror).  It's a techinican's world now. Fundementals don't mean squat anymore in a  world going backwards and "reports" that's just spinny talk.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KQDPJ8OLL._SL500_AA258_.jpg)
"And there's candle charts there too my pretty."
"Oooooooh, big strapping candle charts?"      ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 05:10:49 AM
I was in Floridah for 3 weeks and really liked the Bounty and Disneyworld of course and waterworld and circusworld and Ripleys believe it or not
museum
Now I know I could believe half of it ( like the shrunken by jivaros head )
I saw the recipee in a scientific magazine
However we have Gran Canaria for the rich . Like 18-25 C all year round .
With all the storms in Florida and the great earthquake of Cali coming it are both
difficult to sell real estate pieces .
An idiot friend of mine bougth 40 years ago some florida land cheap ;
when he went to visit afterwards he saw why ; it was 4 inches under everglade water  ::)

The hurricanes in 2004 and 2005 drove a lot of people out of the Florida. And at the same time real estate was peaking. Where I'm  at they have had a net decrease in population growth for the first since they stated keeping records. And the sad part is all anyone had to do was get on a public bus and ride through the neighbor hoods and look at all the for sale for rent signs that were out. You can sure see a lot them from a bus when your not concentrating of driving. I used to see it all every freaking  morning coming home from work but people I told it to just bulked and said people have live somewhere.  Sure, but they don't have to live in Florida. We haven't even had a hurricane since 2005 but people are still leaving and not moving here.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 05:20:38 AM
Are you referring to pretty pretty Jane Fonda in Barbarella ?

Candle charts can be eh erectitating or tittyliating
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 10, 2010, 06:57:11 AM
You should check out Fonda in 'Cat Ballou' 1965 where she is trying to act......trying to act like what I'm not sure but the shot of Lee Marvin on his horse delivering one of the best lines ever is worth sitting through the plot.

I see the awaited puking of the US long bond has begun in earnest. Commodity index has also made the leap of faith.

With the snow storms in the eastern US the only thing keeping someone from living in Florida would be property taxes.

I should really learn how to sell miners in early December and hibernate until late August.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 07:11:14 AM
Are you referring to pretty pretty Jane Fonda in Barbarella ?

Candle charts can be eh erectitating or tittyliating

No I never saw Barberella.

Check this one out. That's some serious armor.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vj2e1m7Hlgw/Si8RjHl9s_I/AAAAAAAAWsc/EnR8uNDNDg8/s400/battleangel9tq.jpg)
"I have to re-charge. I had an exhausting day killing bond traders."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 10, 2010, 08:23:08 AM
I am all for getting drunk with Ms. Silver! Maybe we can do a spring camping trip? One thing is for certain she sure is moody! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 09:01:01 AM
You should check out Fonda in 'Cat Ballou' 1965 where she is trying to act......trying to act like what I'm not sure but the shot of Lee Marvin on his horse delivering one of the best lines ever is worth sitting through the plot.

I see the awaited puking of the US long bond has begun in earnest. Commodity index has also made the leap of faith.

With the snow storms in the eastern US the only thing keeping someone from living in Florida would be property taxes.

I should really learn how to sell miners in early December and hibernate until late August.

I saw Cat Ballou four times for Lee Marvin
The way he comes out of his bath and dons his black setup with silver brace around the hat and wears those ivory pistols and shoots the guy with the silver nose and then in the final scene he is a drunkard again
My avatar is Lee Marvin from the musical "Paint your wagon" and come along

I just finished my buying by getting a trading slice of yamana yri.to
If I don't believe my own forecasts of 8-19 march why do I make them ?
Hibernating with an 11 months cycle going was a moving affair : but this time around
I am going to move more trading shares ( a promise I have been making for 2 years now)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 09:04:20 AM
Are you referring to pretty pretty Jane Fonda in Barbarella ?

Candle charts can be eh erectitating or tittyliating

No I never saw Barberella.

Check this one out. That's some serious armor.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vj2e1m7Hlgw/Si8RjHl9s_I/AAAAAAAAWsc/EnR8uNDNDg8/s400/battleangel9tq.jpg)
"I have to re-charge. I had an exhausting day killing bond traders."

Barbarella is a parody on a space sci fi adventure with beautifull music
and there is one unforgettable scene were the bad guy ties her to a pleasure music organ
and he plays and he plays and she makes the music organ go up in smoke
Also the dolls with razorshape teeth are remarkable
I saw this video half a dozen times and it feels like time again to see it
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 09:05:42 AM
I am all for getting drunk with Ms. Silver! Maybe we can do a spring camping trip? One thing is for certain she sure is moody! ;)

She needs the lithium compound for moodswings  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 11:19:16 PM
(http://www.heavymetal.com/images/covers/sum07.jpg)

How's this for a leading indicator? Summer of 2007. One year before the knobheads and grasping tentacles showed up.

BTW, HM has an archive of all their covers.
http://www.heavymetal.com/index.php?id=1520
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 10, 2010, 11:23:49 PM
(http://www.heavymetal.com/shm/product_info.php?products_id=4850)

You posted an internet link in image brackets

http://www.heavymetal.com/shm/product_info.php?products_id=4850
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2010, 11:31:11 PM
(http://www.heavymetal.com/shm/product_info.php?products_id=4850)

You posted an internet link in image brackets

http://www.heavymetal.com/shm/product_info.php?products_id=4850

I fixed the other one.

(http://www.heavymetal.com/images/covers/spr04.jpg)
Looks like she found the
front door to goldman sachs



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 11, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Sentiment on goldminers getting very bearish which is good

(http://www.timingthemarket.ca/techtalk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/clip_image0055.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 12, 2010, 03:33:16 AM
The "socialist" Obama is okay now with CEO bonuses. What happened? Did he get tired of hearing "who told you to talk?"

Oh, here's an oddity. Might help explain why "the socialist"  keeps pushing for "climate change" even as washington gets buried under record breaking  snowfall. And New York too. Hey hold your next global warming summit in the UN after they get rid of the snow mountains.  ;D

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wall-street-power-surge-questions-energy-policy-finance/story?id=9789318

In a less reputable publication-- Tabloid in Publix check out-- I saw that Nostradamus predicts fire and earthquakes for America.  But not to worry, the paper is also reporting that BO has plan to save us from all that seething horror.  Hehehehe what is it? A Nostradamus tax?



  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2010, 03:45:54 AM
Who would ever have thought that over here France was the strong man out

Quote
The eurozone’s economic recovery faltered late last year as a strong performance by France failed to offset stagnation in Germany and contraction in Italy and Spain.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fc0536d2-17ac-11df-a74d-00144feab49a.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 12, 2010, 04:51:46 AM
Western movies will certainly round out your education, something about the wild west maybe because they used gold and and silver for payments and lead encased in copper for disputes.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2010, 06:25:04 AM
Western movies will certainly round out your education, something about the wild west maybe because they used gold and and silver for payments and lead encased in copper for disputes.

I just saw the Shootist again with John Wayne
What a way to commit Euthanasia  :)

Gold and HUI are playing difficult girls again . What a week a day up and a day down
rinse and repeat
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2010, 06:31:04 AM
The only position change I made this week was buying more yamana
The only pleasure was provided by Oceana and I don't know why but I will take it
anyway
Sunday the weekly charts update to a new week , so I will make a weekly chart on sunday
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 12, 2010, 06:42:26 AM
Try 'Angel and the Badman' with John Wayne it's not one of your run of the mill westerns.

$1040 area held intraday here in the US and it's been higher lows ever since.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2010, 06:50:56 AM
Try 'Angel and the Badman' with John Wayne it's not one of your run of the mill westerns.

$1040 area held intraday here in the US and it's been higher lows ever since.

Ok I will obtaine angel and the badman

In view of the chart I made around noon ( it is now nearly 9 pm ) I did not
expect any gold fireworks ( slow stochs and macd crossed a second time upwards)
But that downtrendline is holding us
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2010, 07:01:40 AM
I see everybody is getting the 2009 remake with his grandson in it
What happened to looking at originals ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 12, 2010, 07:07:44 AM
Weakness is to be expected this time of year making it even more difficult to break above the down trend line. Above $1050 area confirms a break out. Norcini has a nice chart up again today, actually the same recent fibs.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 12, 2010, 07:12:02 AM
Weakness is to be expected this time of year making it even more difficult to break above the down trend line. Above $1050 area confirms a break out. Norcini has a nice chart up again today, actually the same recent fibs.
A re-release. maybe it's cleaned up digitally pic and sound wise. It is still black and white? Look for the older colorized version but I don't think VHS plays well in your neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 12, 2010, 07:41:55 AM


"Strength becomes weakness, weakness
becomes strength."  Sun Tzu-The original
Contrarian.
 
(http://www.heavymetal.com/shm/images/sum09.jpg)
Dow down another 50 points today.
Masters of Universe might want to
get used to views such as this. Ben might
not do another  cavalry riding over the hill in
the nick of time rendition.  

Funny though, how Ben and the "free press" managed
to turn bail out money into "stimulus" money.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 12, 2010, 08:16:56 AM
We can take care of the illegals, come to the aid of the world when needed but let a working taxpayer have some bad luck and he is screwed. Welfare was set up during the Great Depression to help the working man down on his luck but it turned into a system for free loaders who in turn have taught their children to do the same. If you want a free ride DON'T ever take a job!!! We don't bail out REAL working men and women! :'(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 12, 2010, 08:17:08 AM
Sentiment on goldminers getting very bearish which is good

(http://www.timingthemarket.ca/techtalk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/clip_image0055.gif)

Is the blue line the Slow Stoch?  I thought 20 is  a buy signal?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 12, 2010, 08:21:12 AM
We can take care of the illegals, come to the aid of the world when needed but let a working taxpayer have some bad luck and he is screwed. Welfare was set up during the Great Depression to help the working man down on his luck but it turned into a system for free loaders who in turn have taught their children to do the same. If you want a free ride DON'T ever take a job!!! We don't bail out REAL working men and women! :'(

Indeed, the real working men and women are needed. They are  the host the virus feeds off of. When there are no more hosts left we'll be a cannibal nation just as it was portrayed in Atlas Shrugged. Hell we already are a cannibal nation and there's still hosts with blood left in them.

Businesses have told BO they don't want his job credit tax. They want sales. What good is it to hire people if they don't have an increase in sales or orders? BO is carter's second term. Just like carter, BO is very intelligent but his advisers are clueless.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2010, 09:00:09 AM
Weakness is to be expected this time of year making it even more difficult to break above the down trend line. Above $1050 area confirms a break out. Norcini has a nice chart up again today, actually the same recent fibs.
A re-release. maybe it's cleaned up digitally pic and sound wise. It is still black and white? Look for the older colorized version but I don't think VHS plays well in your neck of the woods.

No the 2009 version is a complete remake with other actors
John Waynes grandson is playing his role
VHS does not work because we got the 50-60 herz electricity cycle difference and we got PAL color TV which can be remastered by a computer
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2010, 09:01:35 AM
Sentiment on goldminers getting very bearish which is good

(http://www.timingthemarket.ca/techtalk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/clip_image0055.gif)

Is the blue line the Slow Stoch?  I thought 20 is  a buy signal?

No the blue line is an ordinary moving average of 15 ( days ? )
But the more bearish they get the more chance we have of the bull to continue
anyway
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 12, 2010, 01:56:22 PM
WE all remember the 90's with the Clintons don't we. Everyone making money hand over fist! Never mind all the corporations that were keeping two sets of books or the ponzie schemes which were flourishing under Democrat oversight! Of course it was all a set up for the crash of the new century as the more easy money folks made the more they poured into the cesspool we call Wall Street. Well I tried to tell most of the folks I knew that we couldn't continue to sell worthless pieces of paper for a profit as the bubble had to bust and it was PLANNED to bust. Oh but look at all the money I am making they would say! Like leading the sheep to slaughter! And now, back on the main stage, the same crooks that ran things in the Clinton administration! Is anyone surprised? Probably just BO!
Quite honestly though, when you get to that level of power, they are all the same. Washington, in my mind, is on the same level as professional wrestling. It is nothing but show when the camera's are there and then they all go out to eat and party before riding home together.
Those who are finally prosecuted for their crimes are those who dared to buck the system!!! They truly do practice, See no evil, hear no evil and tell no evil and with that corruption flourishes!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 12, 2010, 02:36:27 PM
I realize that logically everything points to inflation, even hyper inflation. And maybe it will go that way. But the stealing is so pervasive and so in your face obvious I have to ask what is the point if all the booty is going to become worthless from hyper inflation?

On the other hand why can't the same criminals go to whatever lawn gnome is posing as president and tell him to deflate the currency?

It's the government and the Synchronized Simpletons.  They're going to screw it all up no matter what they do. We're going to have depression camps in this country no matter what. And chinese millionaires are going to be living in repro McMansions in California. But gee, why should American finance criminals  have to suffer worthless currency? Haven't they suffered enough already?  A couple of them already lost their corporate jets. :D

In the mean time, the clueless in washington think the price of lead keeps going up because all the chee-drins are buying pencils and finger paint--made in china- and studying real hard so they can flip burgers in 2020.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 13, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
When you speak of lead I think of another farce going on right now thanks to BO! They (Democrats) know it would be virtually impossible to get all the legally owned guns so they did the next best thing---drove the price of ammunition through the roof! Getting to the point we cann't afford to target shoot! I am saving my ammo to feed my family down the road or any other disturbance that might crop up! ;D

I would like to stash some nickel back as it is also a pricey metal right now but we can't melt them by law. Can't melt copper cents either? Wonder what will be next? I see they are offering aluminum, copper and tin bars now. I bought a few aluminum and copper for the novelty of it but it is starting to look like ALL of it may be a serious investment by the time the government gets done! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 12:03:48 AM
The gold weekly chart for the week starting feb 14 point up and up
towards a march intermidiate high
I finished my sharebuying but still acquire pieces below melt

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 12:07:00 AM
HUI running late as allways
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 12:09:25 AM
Gold daily over 50% slow stoch

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 14, 2010, 12:48:03 AM
When it starts pushing 80 that's sell?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 14, 2010, 12:51:12 AM
When you speak of lead I think of another farce going on right now thanks to BO! They (Democrats) know it would be virtually impossible to get all the legally owned guns so they did the next best thing---drove the price of ammunition through the roof! Getting to the point we cann't afford to target shoot! I am saving my ammo to feed my family down the road or any other disturbance that might crop up! ;D

I would like to stash some nickel back as it is also a pricey metal right now but we can't melt them by law. Can't melt copper cents either? Wonder what will be next? I see they are offering aluminum, copper and tin bars now. I bought a few aluminum and copper for the novelty of it but it is starting to look like ALL of it may be a serious investment by the time the government gets done! ;D

I find lead weights for balancing tires sometimes in the road. You can find all kinds of stuff in the road but you have to do a lot of walking or bike riding. I even found a old fashion copper oil can in the road once.  I find all kinds of wrenches and sockets.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 01:23:19 AM
When it starts pushing 80 that's sell?

When around 8 or 19 march THIS slow stoch settings give red = 80% or more
and if the price is approaching a resistance line or fibo , then look for two things
one is a very high volume day ( sell ) the other is more subjective ; when the momentum
indicator 39.9 is going to recent historical highs ( sell )

Sofar I have sold for ten years within one day of the top
If only I could restrain myself to buying within one day of the bottom  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 14, 2010, 05:22:24 AM


If only I could restrain myself to buying within one day of the bottom  ???

Nathan Rothchild said the secret to his success was that he always sold too soon. In truth I think his secret was being the biggest hustler since Since Alexander Hamilton puked forth. But I guess it does make sense not to try too hard to find tops and bottoms.

Oh, tomorrow is National "Presidents" day. I'm waiting breathlessly to hear what the 44th Lawn Gnome has to say.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 05:51:34 AM


If only I could restrain myself to buying within one day of the bottom  ???

Nathan Rothchild said the secret to his success was that he always sold too soon. In truth I think his secret was being the biggest hustler since Since Alexander Hamilton puked forth. But I guess it does make sense not to try too hard to find tops and bottoms.

Oh, tomorrow is National "Presidents" day. I'm waiting breathlessly to hear what the 44th Lawn Gnome has to say.

I have no problem finding tops nor bottoms
Selling at a top has become a question of pride and is not too big a problem
On the other hand buying low is a problem since I fear to miss the real bottom and I allways buy too soon
When the real bottom comes I recognize it but 80% of my trading money is gone allready

There is only one valid credo
Buy high, sell higher
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 05:52:15 AM

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Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 14, 2010, 10:46:22 AM
Do you know a site that actually gives the slow stoch for the S&P or the Dow?

An interesting thing happened today for Valentine's day. It doesn't look like anyone showed up for it. There were road vendors all over the place waving signs all over the place. I passed a spot in a gas station where some husband wife team had about 200 teddy bears just sitting there.

 I also went grocery shopping this morning where they sell balloons in the store. No line no waiting.  You'd think with such a strong "recovery" a husband could afford five bucks for Valentine's day balloon.

Maybe divorce has become economically viable now if there's nothing left for the lawyers and spouses?  

Whatever, it sure was a strange thing to see even these days where strange is normal. Somewhere along the way I found eleven Tapcon screws in the road. These are screws that you screw into concrete without drilling any holes.  It was kind funny to find those. You know "recovery" "screwed"?   :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 11:03:40 PM
http://stockcharts.com/charts/
on the right click under other tools on market summary

In the new screen
Click on the first symbol left of the name
Go down to indicators
Select slow stochs
Press Update

However the standard settings for slow stoch are 14.3.3 and I always change them
to half cycle lenghts on my program
[/quote]
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Marketwatch does the same with more free options
go to the home page for more
They also have a free sign up program that lets you customize the chart more
( here the lower indicator three was blank and I filled in slow stochs )

They seem to use 5.5.? as settings
I use a german program and a pc bought program where I can set whatever parameter
at whatever lenght I want
Ideal is using half cycle lengths ( like a sinewave goes thru zero at half cycle )
You can play with the settings till nearly all max end in red ( 80%plus) and lows in
green (20% min) However apart from the free german program I know none that let
you do this

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/INDU/charts?countryCode=US&submitted=true&intflavor=advanced&origurl=%2Ftools%2Fquotes%2Fintchart.asp&time=8&freq=1&comp=Enter%20Symbol%28s%29%3A&compidx=aaaaa~0&compind=aaaaa~0&uf=7168&ma=1&maval=50&lf=1&lf2=4&lf3=32&type=2&size=1&optstyle=1013
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 11:40:50 PM
Here is something for you to think about and maybe refigure those gold charts...
It seem that our gal Palosi and her gang of cutthroats have came up with a means of getting this country out of its current national debt. She and a financial specialist Jeremy Siegel have suggested that BO authorize the Treasury to sell all of its gold.  Andrew Williams of the Treasury estimates there is a gold reserve of more than 8000 metric tons, with a current value of about $288 billion.  Siegal siding with the sale of the gold stated that since 1971 gold has produced a return of 8.86% a year, while the return on stock has been 9.76% (even with the disastrous yhear we just had)and the money placed in stocks for the long run.  James Barth of the Miliken Economic think-tank of Miliken Instiute cautioned that the talk of selling of the stock could cause a drop in gold's price. He goes on to say it costs the American tax payer a lot of money just to safeguard the gold stock and if sold it would alos save this expense.
Note: when ask about this talk, the entire thing was denied........(I wonder why?)

Side note: with a national debt of $12.3 trillion, this sure would make much of a dent, now would it!

Jim Sinclair's site has once done the calculation
You let gold go to 10 000 $ and start a new dollar covered by gold like
in the Bretton Woods agreement
I bet you if the US sells its gold China will take all at market price
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2010, 11:50:02 PM
Goldman may be banned from europe for helping greece hide problems

Goldman Goes Rogue - Special European Audit to Follow
By Simon Johnson

http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/14/goldman-goes-rogue-%E2%80%93-special-european-audit-to-follow/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BaselineScenario+%28The+Baseline+Scenario%29
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 15, 2010, 12:23:39 AM
http://stockcharts.com/charts/
on the right click under other tools on market summary

In the new screen
Click on the first symbol left of the name
Go down to indicators
Select slow stochs
Press Update

However the standard settings for slow stoch are 14.3.3 and I always change them
to half cycle lenghts on my program
[/quote

Thanks PYW. Works pretty good. S&P took a nose dive as soon at it hit 80 on Jan 19. Now it's at 47.6. I guess that's stumbling around dazed territory.  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 15, 2010, 12:28:14 AM
Here is something for you to think about and maybe refigure those gold charts...
It seem that our gal Palosi and her gang of cutthroats have came up with a means of getting this country out of its current national debt. She and a financial specialist Jeremy Siegel have suggested that BO authorize the Treasury to sell all of its gold.  Andrew Williams of the Treasury estimates there is a gold reserve of more than 8000 metric tons, with a current value of about $288 billion.  Siegal siding with the sale of the gold stated that since 1971 gold has produced a return of 8.86% a year, while the return on stock has been 9.76% (even with the disastrous yhear we just had)and the money placed in stocks for the long run.  James Barth of the Miliken Economic think-tank of Miliken Instiute cautioned that the talk of selling of the stock could cause a drop in gold's price. He goes on to say it costs the American tax payer a lot of money just to safeguard the gold stock and if sold it would alos save this expense.
Note: when ask about this talk, the entire thing was denied........(I wonder why?)

Side note: with a national debt of $12.3 trillion, this sure would make much of a dent, now would it!

Jim Sinclair's site has once done the calculation
You let gold go to 10 000 $ and start a new dollar covered by gold like
in the Bretton Woods agreement
I bet you if the US sells its gold China will take all at market price

That woman needs to have head felt for brain tumors. Doesn't she know the federal reserve wants that's gold. Or does she really think they went through all that trouble sprinkling fairy dust all over the world for the last 100 years  so that they could get paid back with it?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 15, 2010, 12:33:05 AM
Here is something for you to think about and maybe refigure those gold charts...
It seem that our gal Palosi and her gang of cutthroats have came up with a means of getting this country out of its current national debt. She and a financial specialist Jeremy Siegel have suggested that BO authorize the Treasury to sell all of its gold.  Andrew Williams of the Treasury estimates there is a gold reserve of more than 8000 metric tons, with a current value of about $288 billion.  Siegal siding with the sale of the gold stated that since 1971 gold has produced a return of 8.86% a year, while the return on stock has been 9.76% (even with the disastrous yhear we just had)and the money placed in stocks for the long run.  James Barth of the Miliken Economic think-tank of Miliken Instiute cautioned that the talk of selling of the stock could cause a drop in gold's price. He goes on to say it costs the American tax payer a lot of money just to safeguard the gold stock and if sold it would alos save this expense.
Note: when ask about this talk, the entire thing was denied........(I wonder why?)

Side note: with a national debt of $12.3 trillion, this sure would make much of a dent, now would it!

"Side note: with a national debt of $12.3 trillion, this sure would make much of a dent, now would it!"

"The Nation" or "the country" is Mexifornia to Pelosi. That should be enough to pay off their  debt.  If it's not  she could  always propose that we sell stealth bombers to china?

Since china and/or India would buy all of it in one rip, they would have to hire some "talented" investment banker like oh, say, the golden sach bags? How much cockroach food would an investment banker  get for deal that big? Madame Speaker do have that answer?

Ascending countries hoard gold. Declining countries sell gold.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 01:10:19 AM
All those options are really academic since the gold has not been audited by a third party in a VERY long time
So I believe that 75% of all the "official" gold is leased out never to be seen back as real gold .
The Germans stopped their gold selling program in time to realise that if you sell it in
half ounce sizes with a certificate it takes longer but you get 150% of the going price
The French are even better ; I stopped looking at Monnaie de Paris; they are now selling
0.1 ounces for like 50% over melt or more.

I have gone back to the basics . Sovereigns and Napoleons
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 01:16:29 AM
http://stockcharts.com/charts/
on the right click under other tools on market summary

In the new screen
Click on the first symbol left of the name
Go down to indicators
Select slow stochs
Press Update

However the standard settings for slow stoch are 14.3.3 and I always change them
to half cycle lenghts on my program
[/quote

Thanks PYW. Works pretty good. S&P took a nose dive as soon at it hit 80 on Jan 19. Now it's at 47.6. I guess that's stumbling around dazed territory.  :D

I just found out that in the box parameters you can type the setting you like so
I typed 25.3.3 and the chart slow stochs look dead around 25

(http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$SPX&p=D&b=5&g=0&i=t32258223776&r=5168)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 15, 2010, 03:42:13 AM
Oh good one:  the "bankruptcy estate."  Sounds like spinny speak for taxpayers.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 03:46:02 AM
Merlin has one billion dollar debt
Who would have thunk that of Merlin

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6fa4a12a-199e-11df-af3e-00144feab49a.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 15, 2010, 03:50:12 AM
25 makes more sense at S&P 1075.  It was over 1200 ten years ago.  What's the "long run" now for stocks? Eternity?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 03:58:33 AM
25 makes more sense at S&P 1075.  It was over 1200 ten years ago.  What's the "long run" now for stocks? Eternity?

Well when I was asked to make plans 5 years were longterm for Americans and 10 years
for Japanese . I have sometimes the feeling that nowadays the end of the year is longterm.

In stocks they are opportunists, long term is the distance between two years showing a profit better then inflations ; whatever that distance may be
My useless investment lettre quotes three to five years as normal patience time between a
buy and a sell
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 04:01:54 AM
In gold I handle three timeframes

Monthly candles charts where I use 5.3.3 settings ; presuming an11 or 10 months cycle
Weekly candles I use 7.3.3 since the above range is split in three cycles of around 107 days in the past at 7 days per week for gold
On the daily charts I use either 17 or 25.3.3 since the weekly cycle is sometimes devided in 2 times 50 days or three times 35 days
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 15, 2010, 12:32:39 PM
If I were going to invest in stocks right now it would be buffalo, cattle, pigs or chickens. At least when the bottom falls out of that market you can still eat your portfollio! Try cooking up some of that worthless paper!  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 15, 2010, 02:22:44 PM
The best stocks to own? Paper products for when IT hits the fan....which it will.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 08:57:01 PM
If I were going to invest in stocks right now it would be buffalo, cattle, pigs or chickens. At least when the bottom falls out of that market you can still eat your portfollio! Try cooking up some of that worthless paper!  ;)

It is illigal now in belgium to take possesion because that way the heirs may forget to pay
the state the inheritance tax. So all inheritors of bondholders and certholders and deposit holders are screwed to the full extend of the law now. ( If your wife or husband dies they
give you three months to hand over like 30 % of the estimated value ) If you live in a house that is overestimated by 50% you are really out of luck
On the other hand we need operating permits to own any of the beasties you mention except for less then 999 chickens without a rooster making noice

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
To all you gold fans
The weekly charts are breaking out upwards confirming a probable high on 8 or 19 march
To dollar holders it will be a weak ; maybe double top thing
After all it is only a 100 days high.
To me in euro yesterday was an alltime goldhigh  ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 15, 2010, 09:17:08 PM
The daily charts say the same
miserable high probably in march due to dollar strenght
The HUI is breaking out and gives the promise of a similar miserable high

I will be using this high to continue to reposition my portfolio and sell the
trading shares
I am starting to withdraw from South African mines and moving into junior producers



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 16, 2010, 03:40:17 AM
Speaking of Pigs Ireland was the number country in Europe for wealth per capita just a few years ago when they all became real estate barons. Now they're a PIIG dragging down the Euro. My, my how things can change so fast.

I wish I was a stock player. I'd bet against AT&T. That is one pig that badly needs to go into the sausage grinder.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 05:05:53 AM
The lower and higher house in holland have voted a law that they refuse to give one euro
in direct or indirect help to greece
German Merkel has a problem to explain that the greek refuse to have a pension change to age 63 and therefore the germans may have to work till 69 to subsidize the lazy greeks.
Greece has only money left for 8 weeks operations : so it gets exciting  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 06:26:13 AM
It looks like Oceana is going anticycle wise
so I sold my trading slice for 2.32 cad which I bought a few months ago for 1.58 cad
Slowstoch weekly and daily red and momentum too high

I have this private theory that momentum is like a rocket : when the fuel is gone the rocket stops and falls . The higher the momentum the more fuel that is gone
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 16, 2010, 06:34:48 AM
...Well, here in California the state runs out of money again on April 1st. Besides the obvious like "Maybe we should start cutting back on spending no matter how painful, solutions" the main drawback for states in this situation is that they can't print money like the federal government. Can't wait to see the political tradeoffs when bailouts are worked out in Congress as the States begin to fall like dominios.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 06:41:35 AM
...Well, here in California the state runs out of money again on April 1st. Besides the obvious like "Maybe we should start cutting back on spending no matter how painful, solutions" the main drawback for states in this situation is that they can't print money like the federal government. Can't wait to see the political tradeoffs when bailouts are worked out in Congress as the States begin to fall like dominios.

Well you could do like greece and ask the Chinese to help
except they declined to help Greece  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 16, 2010, 06:42:49 AM
How about Germany? Think they might help us out?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 06:47:41 AM
How about Germany? Think they might help us out?

Well they just showed the anniversary film of the bombing of Dresden killing 25 000 germans in one night
I think you better ask Darling ( that limey minister )  ;)
Can't Scwharzy make another Tarzan film ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 16, 2010, 06:55:02 AM
I went to a gymnastics meet this weekend next to Universal Studios but instead of visiting there went to Hollywood and Vine area at 10 on a Saturday night, much more entertaining. Parked and went to the Wax Museum and Ripley's Believe It or Not. Saw Marilyn Monore, Kermit the frog stars on the sidewalk among many others. Then went to Knott's Berry Farm for the rides the next day. Those over engineered rides are so smooooth.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 06:59:08 AM
I went to a gymnastics meet this weekend next to Universal Studios but instead of visiting there went to Hollywood and Vine area at 10 on a Saturday night, much more entertaining. Parked and went to the Wax Museum and Ripley's Believe It or Not. Saw Marilyn Monore, Kermit the frog stars on the sidewalk among many others. Then went to Knott's Berry Farm for the rides the next day. Those over engineered rides are so smooooth.

Sounds like fun
I was sitting in a relax chair with good french cognac when I started the afternoon... since I had that
dreadfull headcold again I cannot remember much of the rest of the day ...
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 16, 2010, 06:59:34 AM
I went to a gymnastics meet this weekend next to Universal Studios but instead of visiting there went to Hollywood and Vine area at 10 on a Saturday night, much more entertaining. Parked and went to the Wax Museum and Ripley's Believe It or Not. Saw Marilyn Monore, Kermit the frog stars on the sidewalk among many others. Then went to Knott's Berry Farm for the rides the next day. Those over engineered rides are so smooooth.

My high school history book said we were bombing legitimate war machine manufacturing plants......okay maybe on cloudy days/nights they had to dump their loads wherever.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 07:06:53 AM
I went to a gymnastics meet this weekend next to Universal Studios but instead of visiting there went to Hollywood and Vine area at 10 on a Saturday night, much more entertaining. Parked and went to the Wax Museum and Ripley's Believe It or Not. Saw Marilyn Monore, Kermit the frog stars on the sidewalk among many others. Then went to Knott's Berry Farm for the rides the next day. Those over engineered rides are so smooooth.

My high school history book said we were bombing legitimate war machine manufacturing plants......okay maybe on cloudy days/nights they had to dump their loads wherever.

I live in Mechelen which had the largest train repair facility of Belgium a very desirable trainstation and repair facility to bomb and like half a mile out of town only
They bombed my parents house to smithereens and the craters can be seen up to 7 miles out of Mechelen direction of the North Sea .
I have been told NOBODY wanted to return with a full load . So when there was
a fog they dropped them where they wanted .
In those days they did not care about collateral damage . Lucky for me because I might be german otherwise  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 16, 2010, 07:14:53 AM
My point was that they knowingly terrorized the people. Bombing factories they were just killing prisoners of war. Britain was none to happy about getting randomly bombed either.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 16, 2010, 07:32:15 AM
Gold up $20. Maybe some day the miners will react to the gold moves.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 07:38:57 AM
My point was that they knowingly terrorized the people. Bombing factories they were just killing prisoners of war. Britain was none to happy about getting randomly bombed either.

My father to be was four years a prisoner of war allocated to food production
He was allowed to eat worms and snails and beatles and all other good protein providers
He was also allowed to smoke grass ( the variety cows eat)
The most delicious meals he had were stray cats . As good as rabbit he allways claimed .
Those were the days the villains had metal helmets and guns
Now the have computers and paper and pens to sign the swaps or whatever
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 07:41:52 AM
Gold up $20. Maybe some day the miners will react to the gold moves.

It looks like my timing window of march is opening up nicely for gold
The miners will only react if gold goes in one go up to 1450 or 1650 which it may do in the
third 100 day cycle ending the yearly cycle in octobre like
I got the time
As long as I get 1000% I don't care when as long as it is the next 12 months ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 16, 2010, 07:51:46 AM
Kalifornica is doomed....cut spending? Front page of today's Minneapolis (Minn) Star-Tribune: "San Francisco plans to create a task force to determine the proper ratio of sunlight to shade in public parks."  What the .....?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 16, 2010, 08:08:13 AM
If San Fran disappeared into a fault I'd never miss it.

Jewish guy owned a business called 'Sid's Carpet Barn' where I grew up and was in there looking for new rugs for parent's house, he had numbers tattooed on his left forearm during his stay at a German prison camp. I didn't understand it then and don't understand now.

Must be looking for time compression for all these targets to be hit. Quite the range from highs to lows that must take place in a narrow time frame.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
Who would have tought the greek had the spunk

Quote
Reuters
Bomb goes off at JP Morgan offices in Athens
By Renee Maltezou
16 Feb 2010 18:17:54 GMT

ATHENS, Feb 16 (Reuters) - A bomb exploded outside the JP Morgan offices in Athens on Tuesday, causing minor damage to the building, police said.

There were no immediate reports of injuries.

"It was a time-bomb at JP Morgan's offices in central Athens," a police official said. "The explosion damaged the outside door and smashed some windows."

The official said police cordoned off the area after a local newspaper had received a warning call.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 09:26:00 PM
Soros said we are in a gold bubble right after he doubled his paper gold
He is not all that smart or he would have put physical gold in switzerland
before all the bankvaults there were filled up .

Quote
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aJVbGlK7nEms 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 09:28:15 PM
In 1920 JPMorgan was bombed too

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S3rtvuNspTI/AAAAAAAAL3g/-DBC7Hpa6Sg/s320/Wallstreetbmb.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 16, 2010, 10:59:32 PM
Another superb article by The Bonner.

http://dailyreckoning.com/us-budget-deficit-enjoying-the-ride-on-the-road-to-ruin/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 16, 2010, 11:07:06 PM
Soros said we are in a gold bubble right after he doubled his paper gold
He is not all that smart or he would have put physical gold in switzerland
before all the bankvaults there were filled up .

Quote
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aJVbGlK7nEms  

If he was smart he wouldn't be a socialist.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 16, 2010, 11:16:23 PM
Who would have tought the greek had the spunk

Quote
Reuters
Bomb goes off at JP Morgan offices in Athens
By Renee Maltezou
16 Feb 2010 18:17:54 GMT

ATHENS, Feb 16 (Reuters) - A bomb exploded outside the JP Morgan offices in Athens on Tuesday, causing minor damage to the building, police said.

There were no immediate reports of injuries.

"It was a time-bomb at JP Morgan's offices in central Athens," a police official said. "The explosion damaged the outside door and smashed some windows."

The official said police cordoned off the area after a local newspaper had received a warning call.

I suppose  JP Cucaracha will want a bail out to fix the door?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2010, 11:57:35 PM
Who would have tought the greek had the spunk

Quote
Reuters
Bomb goes off at JP Morgan offices in Athens
By Renee Maltezou
16 Feb 2010 18:17:54 GMT

ATHENS, Feb 16 (Reuters) - A bomb exploded outside the JP Morgan offices in Athens on Tuesday, causing minor damage to the building, police said.

There were no immediate reports of injuries.

"It was a time-bomb at JP Morgan's offices in central Athens," a police official said. "The explosion damaged the outside door and smashed some windows."

The official said police cordoned off the area after a local newspaper had received a warning call.

I suppose  JP Cucaracha will want a bail out to fix the door?

They must have a swap somewhere to get 10 000 times the price of the damage

I read some months ago they were gone to make dead swaps
"actuarial difference insurance" or some such
If the people died a lot earlier then average then bingo the big money
They may have been thinking of bombing and such
I hope the insurance is with a solvent company :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 02:02:48 AM
And the next decadent empire is India

Gold footwear

(http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100212&t=2&i=59946008&w=460&r=2010-02-12T135356Z_01_BTRE61701C300_RTROPTP_0_INDIA-GOLD)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 02:16:34 AM
The dream of german silver lovers
You can say what you want but those new german generation have dreams I can
understand

(http://www.milehighcomics.com/sandiego/sdcc2004/saturday/tankgirl.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 17, 2010, 05:15:48 AM
The dream of german silver lovers
You can say what you want but those new german generation have dreams I can
understand

(http://www.milehighcomics.com/sandiego/sdcc2004/saturday/tankgirl.jpg)

Oh dear, the double phallus. I have a private  theory too. That the Elliot Waves are:  All things are trying to become what they are not. And that the Grand Super Cycle switch may be the grandest and bumpiest of them all. What if the Grand Super Cycle is reversing, (*like right now*) the conscious and unconscious in people?  So that what was the unconscious is  conscious and what was  conscious becomes unconscious, and with it all the former norms and standards. Or what Jung called anima and animus possession. Isn't this happening right now? Aren't things backwards? Don't men complain that women are becoming like men and woman complain that men  are becoming like women?

And what about markets, society, governments etc built mostly by men for the last several thousand years around narcissistic male ideas  such as  democracy which is really the subjugation of one person's Liberty in order to give someone else "their liberty."  And, oh yeah,  there's also the  10,000 commandments needed so we can really be free. Let's see now if  democracy is just slavery on the lay-away plan then perhaps when the Grand Super Cycle reverses  enough, slavery will  move  towards  freedom on the lay-away plan. 

(http://www.heavymetal.com/shm/images/sum09.jpg)
I love this cover so much I ordered
a back issue from HM. Is there anything
that can burst the bubble of narcissistic
men better than women?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 06:22:04 AM
Hmm : they can reverse as much as they want
The subconscious of a banker is never gone be an honest man but more like
the master of the real universe ; mars and jupiter and the milky way included

On the other hand with Freud et all everything was penis envy or was that Jung ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 17, 2010, 07:14:30 AM

They must have a swap somewhere to get 10 000 times the price of the damage

I read some months ago they were gone to make dead swaps
"actuarial difference insurance" or some such
If the people died a lot earlier then average then bingo the big money
They may have been thinking of bombing and such
I hope the insurance is with a solvent company :D

Ah, but King Knobhead of the Sachiegoths started a taxpayers investment fund for us. It's reeking from sea to shining sea with bad swaps, so what's one more? That will just be a bigger dividend check, right?  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 17, 2010, 07:21:11 AM
Hmm : they can reverse as much as they want
The subconscious of a banker is never gone be an honest man but more like
the master of the real universe ; mars and jupiter and the milky way included

On the other hand with Freud et all everything was penis envy or was that Jung ?

I believe penis envy was Freud and "all men are great in their dreams" was Jung. Jung clearly understood politicians and masters of the universe long ago.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 07:27:47 AM
I seem to remember a german slogan but forgot which worldwar it belongs to
The citizens proudly saying I gave gold for iron ( for the canons )

Also I remember but I forgot when it was ( like 20 years ago ) that human blood was a commodity traded on the American futures market . Presumably some prez or other found that a bit too much for PR . We invest in American blood  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 17, 2010, 07:31:58 AM
UNBELIEVABLE PRESIDENT???
HERE IS HIS RESPONSE WHEN HE BACKED OFF FROM HIS DECISION TO REQUIRE THE MILITARY PAY FOR THEIR WAR INJURIES.
Bad press, including major mockery of the plan by comedian Jon
Stewart, led to President Obama abandoning his proposal to require
veterans carry private health insurance to cover the estimated $540
million annual cost to the federal government of treatment for injuries
to military personnel received during their tours on active duty
.


"Look, it's an all volunteer force," Obama complained. "Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn't compute." "I thought these were people were proud to serve and give "Obama continued "I wasn't asking for blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the
selfishness of some of my fellow Americans."

Good thing they weren't parodying  Pelosi with that.  She's such a  whack job people would have believed it. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 08:23:21 AM
(http://www.gif-paradies.de/gifs/menschen-laender/ritter/ritter_0029.gif)

Mmm seems I am more optimistic then the Aden sisters ?

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/aden021610.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 09:09:28 AM
Finally somebody dares to call Prechter a bought off quack ( I think)  and says we will die in Pisces and that the age of Aquarius is a quack too

Prechtor Elliot is the fastest way to loose the largest amount of money
We decline into catastrophy 2010 and then go 1000% into 2018


http://www.amanita.at/docs/open/newsletter-e.pdf
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 17, 2010, 09:53:42 AM
As I said, "There are a group of people (families) that are actively trying to suck the wealth out of the planet and it has gone unobstructed for the last 2,000 years. Every thing else is painted reality and they are the painters! Just about everything we have been told is a lie as they continue to hide among all the worlds governments an religions. What better place to hide? It is all orchastrated and will continue until........Its coming soon! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 17, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
"....The production of iron jewelery reached its peak between 1813 and 1815, when the Prussian royal family urged all citizens to contribute their gold and silver jewelery towards funding the uprising against Napoleon during the War of Liberation. In return the people were given iron jewelery such as brooches and finger rings, often with the inscription Gold gab ich für Eisen (I gave gold for iron), or Far das Wahl des Vaterlands (For the welfare of our country / motherland), or with a portrait of Frederick William III of Prussia on the back. Until then iron jewelery had only been worn as a symbol of mourning (because of its black color) and was worth too little to be alluring, but suddenly it became a symbol of patriotism and loyalty and with its obvious aesthetic appeal, became popular overnight...."

"....Freud was going through a bad patch. He desperately wanted to marry the fetching Martha, but her parents were rich and skeptical of this young upstart who presumed to ask for their daughter's hand. He'd started studying a variety of sea creatures in the hope of making great leaps forward in the new science of neurology and had the honor of being the first person to find the genitals of an eel (how he found the genitals while looking for the brain is a bit of a mystery). But it wasn't enough. Poking around in the nether regions of fish wasn't going to impress anybody[3], not least Martha's snooty parents.

So when the cocaine came along, he had high hopes. How could a highly addictive stimulant not impress one's presumptive in-laws? Not only did this new drug cure hunger, thirst and melancholy, it made him feel fantastic. Like totally groovy, man. He couldn't wait to announce this new wonder drug to the scientific community, publishing "On Coca" in June 1884. Considering Freud was the father of psychoanalysis and spurred an entire new realm of intellectual discourse, the article was a complete mess. Rife with misspellings and inaccuracies, he managed to even get the comparatively simple chemical formula of cocaine incorrect. Why? Let's just say he was extremely thorough in his research...."

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 17, 2010, 11:51:10 AM
(http://www.gif-paradies.de/gifs/menschen-laender/ritter/ritter_0029.gif)

Mmm seems I am more optimistic then the Aden sisters ?

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/aden021610.html


Not sure they ever had an original idea in their lifetimes but are looking for April lows also. Only Sinclair calls for extreme volatility on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 09:10:08 PM
"....The production of iron jewelery reached its peak between 1813 and 1815, when the Prussian royal family urged all citizens to contribute their gold and silver jewelery towards funding the uprising against Napoleon during the War of Liberation. In return the people were given iron jewelery such as brooches and finger rings, often with the inscription Gold gab ich für Eisen (I gave gold for iron), or Far das Wahl des Vaterlands (For the welfare of our country / motherland), or with a portrait of Frederick William III of Prussia on the back. Until then iron jewelery had only been worn as a symbol of mourning (because of its black color) and was worth too little to be alluring, but suddenly it became a symbol of patriotism and loyalty and with its obvious aesthetic appeal, became popular overnight...."

"....Freud was going through a bad patch. He desperately wanted to marry the fetching Martha, but her parents were rich and skeptical of this young upstart who presumed to ask for their daughter's hand. He'd started studying a variety of sea creatures in the hope of making great leaps forward in the new science of neurology and had the honor of being the first person to find the genitals of an eel (how he found the genitals while looking for the brain is a bit of a mystery). But it wasn't enough. Poking around in the nether regions of fish wasn't going to impress anybody[3], not least Martha's snooty parents.

So when the cocaine came along, he had high hopes. How could a highly addictive stimulant not impress one's presumptive in-laws? Not only did this new drug cure hunger, thirst and melancholy, it made him feel fantastic. Like totally groovy, man. He couldn't wait to announce this new wonder drug to the scientific community, publishing "On Coca" in June 1884. Considering Freud was the father of psychoanalysis and spurred an entire new realm of intellectual discourse, the article was a complete mess. Rife with misspellings and inaccuracies, he managed to even get the comparatively simple chemical formula of cocaine incorrect. Why? Let's just say he was extremely thorough in his research...."

Gold gab ich für Eisen
I have seen many items on ebay Germany with this heading
I thought it was fur Hitler but now seem to remember he dropped butter buying for iron buying

I am more acquainted with Skinner since in my MBA i took behavioural courses and motivational techniques like positive reinforcement etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 09:14:20 PM
The weekly goldchart I updated this morning confirms in the slow stochs a possible
high in three to four weeks (candles) this is the weeks of 8 and 19 march
However the chart pattern shows it will be a miserable high which might not even reach
double top status
I hope to be wrong and to get a nice surprise
Miners are not doing better - au contraire
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2010, 09:17:16 PM
The vertical blue lines on the HUI are the moment the gold high occured
It seems coincident or lagging

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 17, 2010, 11:49:27 PM
Finally somebody dares to call Prechter a bought off quack ( I think)  and says we will die in Pisces and that the age of Aquarius is a quack too

Prechtor Elliot is the fastest way to loose the largest amount of money
We decline into catastrophy 2010 and then go 1000% into 2018


http://www.amanita.at/docs/open/newsletter-e.pdf

The most cherished premise in  Elliot Waves  (one that believe in totality) is that mood is causitive to markets and not the other way around. If the premise is true then logically mainstream culture would be a reflection of the current mood in the country. But that reflection is not a leading indicator;  it's the here and now.
The real secret IMO, is finding a  counter-culture  out on the fringe that will become main stream, and so, a leading indicator. It would be impossible to time anything because it would be impossible to know for sure that a particular bit of counter culture would even make it mainstream. But if it was easy everyone would do it and then it wouldn't work.

Indeed, Elliott Wavers are today's  "quacks."  But it wasn't that long ago when gold traders were the "quacks."  No one's laughing anymore though are they? They won't be laughing at Prechter  either when the black swan poop hits the fan.

Hey what's wrong with Pelosi in Whadda's image. She OD on botox?  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 18, 2010, 12:58:06 AM
Our newspaper says that John Boehner of the repubs ( by the way Boehner means floorwaxer ) has said more people believe that Elvis is still alive  then people believe
there are new jobs created

Amen
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 18, 2010, 12:59:43 AM
Finally somebody dares to call Prechter a bought off quack ( I think)  and says we will die in Pisces and that the age of Aquarius is a quack too

Prechtor Elliot is the fastest way to loose the largest amount of money
We decline into catastrophy 2010 and then go 1000% into 2018


http://www.amanita.at/docs/open/newsletter-e.pdf

The most cherished premise in  Elliot Waves  (one that believe in totality) is that mood is causitive to markets and not the other way around. If the premise is true then logically mainstream culture would be a reflection of the current mood in the country. But that reflection is not a leading indicator;  it's the here and now.
The real secret IMO, is finding a  counter-culture  out on the fringe that will become main stream, and so, a leading indicator. It would be impossible to time anything because it would be impossible to know for sure that a particular bit of counter culture would even make it mainstream. But if it was easy everyone would do it and then it wouldn't work.

Indeed, Elliott Wavers are today's  "quacks."  But it wasn't that long ago when gold traders were the "quacks."  No one's laughing anymore though are they? They won't be laughing at Prechter  either when the black swan poop hits the fan.

Hey what's wrong with Pelosi in Whadda's image. She OD on botox?  

If your read the Amanita article : he says Prechter was dead right till 1980 and then
probably was bought off by the ILLUMINATI since he has not been right in 30 years
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 18, 2010, 02:07:06 AM
Finally somebody dares to call Prechter a bought off quack ( I think)  and says we will die in Pisces and that the age of Aquarius is a quack too

Prechtor Elliot is the fastest way to loose the largest amount of money
We decline into catastrophy 2010 and then go 1000% into 2018


http://www.amanita.at/docs/open/newsletter-e.pdf

The most cherished premise in  Elliot Waves  (one that believe in totality) is that mood is causitive to markets and not the other way around. If the premise is true then logically mainstream culture would be a reflection of the current mood in the country. But that reflection is not a leading indicator;  it's the here and now.
The real secret IMO, is finding a  counter-culture  out on the fringe that will become main stream, and so, a leading indicator. It would be impossible to time anything because it would be impossible to know for sure that a particular bit of counter culture would even make it mainstream. But if it was easy everyone would do it and then it wouldn't work.

Indeed, Elliott Wavers are today's  "quacks."  But it wasn't that long ago when gold traders were the "quacks."  No one's laughing anymore though are they? They won't be laughing at Prechter  either when the black swan poop hits the fan.

Hey what's wrong with Pelosi in Whadda's image. She OD on botox?  

If your read the Amanita article : he says Prechter was dead right till 1980 and then
probably was bought off by the ILLUMINATI since he has not been right in 30 years

How do I know he's not a double agent for the ILLUMINATI?  ;D

Someone called the 1987 crash 44 points before it happened using Elliott wave theory. I don't recall if it was Prechter or not but it seems someone can make it work.

I can't get anything to open in your link except a link to gold chart.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 18, 2010, 02:12:45 AM
one link has a goldchart of today

the other post and other link has HUI close of yesterday

We seem to prepare for a wave three of five into my march target dates
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 18, 2010, 02:18:09 AM
Our newspaper says that John Boehner of the repubs ( by the way Boehner means floorwaxer ) has said more people believe that Elvis is still alive  then people believe
there are new jobs created

Amen

The "recovery" is the biggest scam since the federal reserve puked  from the swamps. It's only fitting that they be the house of mirrors orchestrating it. But even that will be dwarfted by the  health care reform swindle. Oh, don't believe for one second that they have given up on that. There is a reason why 3,500 lobbyists were lobbying for it. And it's not because "it will be good for America and good for Americans."

It doesn't matter what happens anymore with the economy. It's bushes fault and it's because health care is too expensive.  

"Mister President do you have any comments on the  UFO that just crashed landed in Central Park?"

"Well you know the UFO  probably crashed because the aliens  were  mal- nourished because they spend too much money on health insurance and not enough on alien food that would keep them from passing out ..."  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 18, 2010, 02:20:53 AM
one link has a goldchart of today

the other post and other link has HUI close of yesterday

We seem to prepare for a wave three of five into my march target dates

A third wave is good one.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 18, 2010, 02:27:11 AM
Our house doctor MD just left ( yes they still make housecalls in belgium)
( We asked him to change some of those akward 100 euro bills the machines
spew out now : but he has been mugged so often he only had 300 euro
The police said he had to learn to live with the muggins )

He said city workers now by law and union have the right for up to 10 extra social
vacations days like when their wife is sick or their children are sick

He had a city employee in decembre who said he still had right to 10 days by union negotiation but since he had no wife and no children the doctor had to find the reason for his "Right" to be exercised and the doctor said if he did not find it the lazy guy would go to another doctor probably for the rest of his life ................
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 18, 2010, 02:45:16 AM
The whole reason central planning fails is because people can end it and the slobs who enforce it.  They caught a plant supervisor  in the former Soviet Union who met his yearly quota of  X- tons of nails buy making rail road spikes. Apparently he met the weight quota in a couple of weeks and everyone just laid back for the rest of the year.  In the mean time Soviets had  spit and bailing but no nails.

The CIA once estimated that the Soviets would have collapsed in the 70's if it were not for the huge black markets. Black markets are pure Capitalism. If they would just let Capitalism sink or swim on it's own merits it would be just fine. But then we wouldn't need government clowns anymore would we?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 18, 2010, 05:00:35 AM
Pelosi pic was just showing herself as she really is.....an alien as she peels back that botox facade.

With buyer beware Ebay is about as close as you can get to a free market in action. Just sellers and buyers interacting and a 3rd party in matters of disputes ready to step in. The US Congress avoids taxing transactions as a way to pacify the masses doubt that will last with new laws taking effect as credit companies report your activities to the IRS.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 18, 2010, 06:15:49 AM
ahaha
Belgium sent an airplane with like a dozen police to deport people back to Nigger
Whilst they landed a coup started and is still going on so they are stuck
It is not clear to me what clown want to be Emperor of Nigger
I do not even know where in Africa it is ; I suppose it is not Nigeria
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 18, 2010, 08:33:38 AM
The IMF is selling gold it does not have and which is probably American gold if it
exists at all

http://news.goldseek.com/GATA/1266505200.php
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on February 18, 2010, 12:34:29 PM
Deeply suspect major trend change around March 1.  Usually also associated with Oil.
In cash and bullion only.
Careful all.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on February 18, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Finally someone taking on the cons.

http://www.climategate.com/worlds-biggest-coal-company-brings-us-government-to-court-in-climate-fraud
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 12:39:56 AM
Sorry I was wrong translating Niger by Nigger
It is Niger
The bloomberg guys where orfully late in finding out about the coup
Belgium sent an army airplane with 12 policemen to deport Nigerians ? to Niger
When they landed somebody had just decided to abolish the useless constitution
I do not know whether the 12 belgians are still alive but I suspect after paying like
100 000 dollars to deport the illigals the new Nigers just shot them with a half dollar
bullet for trying to escape to belgium . What a waste of copper.
The cheap solution can be made cheaper by using cutlasses

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aABhqyrthM7Y&pos=8
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 12:42:12 AM
The quote of the day

Quote
"The last duty of a central banker is to tell the public the truth." Alan Blinder, former Vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/02/shaping-perceptions-fed-raises-discount.html

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 12:47:47 AM
Belgian newspaper says Chinese are angry at( the inconsiderate broke and penny less) BO
making friends with the exiled Dalai Lama
If you are broke you should be humble
The American ambassador to China has been called to be chastized over unfriendly
behaviour towards the banker of the US
The FED gave 0.25% extra to pacify

At least BO learned something from the Romans
If you are powerless and if you are broke
Keep the legions far away from Rome unless they come and overthrow you Caesar

Afganistan and Iraq are probably far away enough

http://www.tijd.be/nieuws/buitenland/China_boos_op_Verenigde_Staten.8299418-439.art
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 12:54:15 AM
I am 50 % in physical gold
33% in miners and
17% in cash
I feel comfi and sleep well
I believe that Prechter was bought off by the Illuminati in 1980

I thrust technical analysis and leave the mayan calendar and elliot waves and distrust
of moving shadows to the rest of the population

That does not mean you may not be right Dharmeye
It only means I make my own mistakes all by myself
and I believe in a miserable gold high in dollars in march
In the meantime today is another all time high for gold in euro
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 12:56:34 AM
Even trendlines are now manipulated by those that do not want gold to go up



http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-2438-2440_2572509
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 19, 2010, 01:18:24 AM
I like this chart, which is the Royo's Gothic I got a couple of days ago.  Something that is hard to see in the Internet image is that she has silver eyes!

(http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/17/1713/HCR1D00Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 02:09:49 AM
I like this chart, which is the Royo's Gothic I got a couple of days ago.  Something that is hard to see in the Internet image is that she has silver eyes!

(http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/17/1713/HCR1D00Z.jpg)

How long did it take to look at her eyes ?  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 19, 2010, 03:29:35 AM
I like this chart, which is the Royo's Gothic I got a couple of days ago.  Something that is hard to see in the Internet image is that she has silver eyes!

(http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/17/1713/HCR1D00Z.jpg)

How long did it take to look at her eyes ?  :P

Awhile. I started from the bottom up.  ;D She's also wearing a metal glove with an inverted pentagram and inverted cross on it. Something else that should have been obvious to me but wasn't, is that she's standing between dark and light. Guess she won't get an audience with the Pope anytime soon.  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 19, 2010, 03:39:52 AM
Even trendlines are now manipulated by those that do not want gold to go up

(http://www.fin24.com/downloads/Media/article_images/fin24/goldfeb.png)


http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-2438-2440_2572509

Manipulating  anything in markets  is meaningless. Elliott Wave Theory says it doesn't matter what others do, think or say.  Even real news is irrelevant to markets because mood, not news, is causative.  News does not cause the mood, mood causes the news. Even greenpukes "irrational exuberance" was laughed at  after the first six pack. We don't even have news today so it's even less than irrelevant. And the so called "information highway" is 2% information and 98% "opium for the masses."
Except on my computer where's it 98% highjack redirects because Norton's was about as useful  as a leaky rubber.

Can the "well actually" spinny meisters  make people who are broke and unemployed believe they are not? Can they make grasping governments become less grasping when those guberments in both Europe and the U.S  now have an opportunity to "do something" which of course will mean more "resources" or stealing  as much as they can from the "haves."  If the "haves" want to  be "keepers," they'll have to put their wealth in hard portable assets, and hope they can defend it from maundering zombies instead of grasping guberment and their urgent programs for the chee-drins.  Which makes inflation or deflation irrelevant to those holding physical  metals.

Marauding  zombies already exist in force. You can see it in the "trifling details"--Sun Tzu. What do you call the 20 something's that go into the break room at work and just help themselves to everyone else's sodas and munchies and especially energy drinks that cost $4 a shot? They really like those because they're tired and so they "need it."  So their "need" automatically entitles them to someone else's stuff. Where'd they learn that from; their woodstocker grandmas and grandpas? It going to be a long war. Metals are going to win whether Prechter  is right or wrong about deflation.

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 05:01:59 AM
That is why for 40 years now I make my own charts and my own predictions
That way the mistake is mine and mine alone
I was prepaired in 1980 but they got it back into control
The old solutions of let's get a worldwar will not work anymore because
a WWIII would last all of 5 minutes if nuclear and all of a week if biochemical
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 19, 2010, 05:55:44 AM
Yeah, China is on a well thought out timetable alright........measured in thousands of years. You'd think a progressive country would turn to low yielding nuke power like France. No, building more coal plants is their answer for power. Just mention Taiwan or Tibet and they go off the deep end.  Country is just as backwards as when the US was saving them from the Japanese not to long ago. You can thank Nixon for giving them their temporary new found wealth. It's fleeting.

That Niger (I thought PYW was overly prejudice for a second) event is so localized that I have to rely on military experienced personnel familiar with that region for an opinion. Consensus views this as a good thing for the time being. US supporting the coup. Might have this one right this time around. They blew the call on the Honduras power struggle where an aspiring dictator tried to extend his elected office stay, a young civilized Constitution there negated and smoothed out the attempt.

Spot gold needs to break $1150us area to drown out the background noise. Probably take a couple of months to do that.

(That girl has a nice ass)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 19, 2010, 07:54:34 AM

(That girl has a nice ass)

Oh, I never noticed that. I bought it strictly for artistic reasons.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 19, 2010, 08:19:07 AM

The old solutions of let's get a worldwar will not work anymore because
a WWIII would last all of 5 minutes if nuclear and all of a week if biochemical

Yeah but think of all the "amazing opportunities" in distressed real estate?
Maybe even Carlton Sheets could make a come back with his "amazing no money down shistem."  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 08:44:53 AM
I got my MBA in 1982
There was research being done as to the effectivity of addvertisements
There was this Jaguar car add really saying there were 1000 repair stations in Europe
Nobody saw that message
They used eyetracking technology and they eyes went from the babe on the carhood to the car to the babe to the car for like 5 minutes
Those still around after 5 minutes saw the text at the bottom of the add  ;D :D :P

I first look at the face , then the legs , then the upper structure but I only care
whether they are kind or cruel  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 08:54:03 AM
Yeah, China is on a well thought out timetable alright........measured in thousands of years. You'd think a progressive country would turn to low yielding nuke power like France. No, building more coal plants is their answer for power. Just mention Taiwan or Tibet and they go off the deep end.  Country is just as backwards as when the US was saving them from the Japanese not to long ago. You can thank Nixon for giving them their temporary new found wealth. It's fleeting.

That Niger (I thought PYW was overly prejudice for a second) event is so localized that I have to rely on military experienced personnel familiar with that region for an opinion. Consensus views this as a good thing for the time being. US supporting the coup. Might have this one right this time around. They blew the call on the Honduras power struggle where an aspiring dictator tried to extend his elected office stay, a young civilized Constitution there negated and smoothed out the attempt.

Spot gold needs to break $1150us area to drown out the background noise. Probably take a couple of months to do that.

(That girl has a nice ass)

I remember the strike of Israel agains Ida Ameen Dada ( superb )

This week the limiess are angry that Mossad used fake English and Irish passports to kill an Hamaz leader .Well if you only speak passable English and nothing else officially you
can hardly travel on a French passport can you ?

Anyway : I wait for a gold high in march and to hell with the Prechterites
If I am wrong then I am wrong but I will NOT submit to Prechters version of Elliot
Long live Amanita ( The austrian newslettre that said Precher might have been bought by the Illuminati in 1980 )



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 09:20:51 AM
Now this is weird
My screen is blood red except for physical gold in euro and Tanzanian TNX
I wonder what uncle Jim is up to in order to get me 5% gain on the day
when everybody else is declining
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 19, 2010, 11:50:03 AM
The last time TRE went off by itself a slap down in the sector occurred. Since uncle is in bed with the Chinese now I hope it works out but I think he is out of his league in mining maybe just a front. I had a gain with PMPIX yesterday when my other miners weren't moving.

You know the US through homeland security tracked down the big terrorist's accounts and shut them down, confiscated property and real estate (safe houses) and arrested anyone connected to funding. Probably why gold is up, cash only holy war funding.

I don't why you would announce an assassination unless you are trying to terrorize the terrorists  A drone flying overhead should be enough to make them pee their pants.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 19, 2010, 01:28:05 PM
Couldn't stand it any longer! I ordered Royo's Gothic this evening! Definitely will make my woodshop or RC airplane hanger a great place to hang out and I do love silver!!! ;) Also ordered another, should I say companion poster, so my east wall won't feel left out. Can't remember the name now but my love of art just got the best of me!!! ;D

Now as far as anything that is released by the governments or religions of the world, at this particular time, I would expect exactly the opposite! The masses tend to think the Knights Templar and Illuminati are figments of Hollywood's imagination but I personally think, regardless of what name or title is used, the threat is real and its been here since the beginning of our history. They rule with an iron fist and hide openly in plain sight! They own it all!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 11:47:01 PM
Straight out of a space opera
Holland collapses and goes to the queen to dimission over Afghanistan
Unions are agry their soldiers are no longer allowed to go and die for the amis
in Afghanistan
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DIE FIGHTING  for somebody elses war seems the
Unions motive . Of course the unions do not die nor their leaders . They only pocket
the contributions

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2ce4b0ae-1e0e-11df-ae0b-00144feab49a.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 11:48:52 PM
Crazy South Carolina has a great but unconstitutional idea

NO MORE PAPER DOLLARS

http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2010/02/17/bill-would-ban-federal-currency-in-sc/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 19, 2010, 11:50:58 PM
I would love to see the day the limeys who rejected the Euro get into
irreversible trouble and come begging to Brussels for aid

Quote
Britain at risk of worse deficit crisis than Greece
Britain is at risk of a Government deficit crisis worse than that of Greece, sparking serious fears over the economic stability of the country.
Edmund Conway and James Kirkup
Published: 10:43PM GMT 18 Feb 2010 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/7266097/Britain-at-risk-of-worse-deficit-crisis-than-Greece.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 20, 2010, 02:26:45 AM
After reading  this mornings paper, it would seem that Greece told Brussels  where they could put their Euros. :o

This must be a case of press difference because Holland voted to give nothing go greece
and germany Merkel has problem with her own party to promise anything
So in fact greece can sink before anybody is willing to help
And most of us are all too happy if they went back to their Drachme and Ouzo and Sirtaki

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/463b205e-1d93-11df-a893-00144feab49a.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 20, 2010, 02:45:50 AM
I did NOT put in the 107 days cycle
But the program came up with this cycle having the highest probability
Note whilst I go with 33 or 50 days subcycle the program goes with 28 days now
Anyway looks like a lousy high coming ( sniffing glue instead of pure white )

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 20, 2010, 02:56:54 AM
HELP

The forum says my upload folder is full and to contact an administrator
How to clean my folder ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on February 20, 2010, 05:07:08 AM
You are the third one today. I must get with TKO and see what our options are. I am afraid we may have to start deleting quite a few past postings with photos but not sure at this time. Will see!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 20, 2010, 05:12:02 AM
You are the third one today. I must get with TKO and see what our options are. I am afraid we may have to start deleting quite a few past postings with photos but not sure at this time. Will see!

Personally I see no problem with deleting 25% of my oldest posts adds or anything older then 3 months or whatever is the easyest to handle
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on February 20, 2010, 06:28:58 AM
I did NOT put in the 107 days cycle
But the program came up with this cycle having the highest probability
Note whilst I go with 33 or 50 days subcycle the program goes with 28 days now
Anyway looks like a lousy high coming ( sniffing glue instead of pure white )



Beautiful chart PYW.
Am going to check out the chart site to see what they offer and how you did it?
At first thought the dark blue line was 72 DMA but does not seem so historically - what is it?
Ran across a source saying March 10 was a major bottom. That would suggest the wave inverted? Know and seen it happen. We shall see.
Financial sense was especially chilling this week (without Prechter). Thoughts of doubling my Bullion holdings resulted.
http://www.financialsense.com/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 20, 2010, 10:53:13 AM



Long live Amanita ( The austrian newslettre that said Precher might have been bought by the Illuminati in 1980 )





Why would they bother? Prechter was just an upstart in 1980.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 20, 2010, 11:02:23 AM
I would love to see the day the limeys who rejected the Euro get into
irreversible trouble and come begging to Brussels for aid

Quote
Britain at risk of worse deficit crisis than Greece
Britain is at risk of a Government deficit crisis worse than that of Greece, sparking serious fears over the economic stability of the country.
Edmund Conway and James Kirkup
Published: 10:43PM GMT 18 Feb 2010  

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/7266097/Britain-at-risk-of-worse-deficit-crisis-than-Greece.html

They'll  go over the cliff  just about the same time we do. Their debt/GDP ratio is higher than ours. Fifteen percent was the last figure I heard. We have the Synchronized Simpletons to save us and they have the master market timer baboon Gordon Brown to save them. We are sooooo $%&($!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 20, 2010, 11:11:35 AM
Couldn't stand it any longer! I ordered Royo's Gothic this evening! Definitely will make my woodshop or RC airplane hanger a great place to hang out and I do love silver!!! ;) Also ordered another, should I say companion poster, so my east wall won't feel left out. Can't remember the name now but my love of art just got the best of me!!! ;D



Oh, your going to love  the Gothic poster! I got  Royo's Revenge poster today. Maybe that's the other one you ordered? I had to reorder the Warrior Fabric poster:
(http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/8/861/Y7GJ000Z.jpg)

Seems the other place was out of them so I got a credit and ordered one from ALLPosters.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 20, 2010, 08:00:40 PM
I used to date her.......or maybe it was her sister, whatever, she was one mean lady.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 20, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
I did NOT put in the 107 days cycle
But the program came up with this cycle having the highest probability
Note whilst I go with 33 or 50 days subcycle the program goes with 28 days now
Anyway looks like a lousy high coming ( sniffing glue instead of pure white )



Beautiful chart PYW.
Am going to check out the chart site to see what they offer and how you did it?
At first thought the dark blue line was 72 DMA but does not seem so historically - what is it?
Ran across a source saying March 10 was a major bottom. That would suggest the wave inverted? Know and seen it happen. We shall see.
Financial sense was especially chilling this week (without Prechter). Thoughts of doubling my Bullion holdings resulted.
http://www.financialsense.com/

The chart site is for computer programmers like seven of eleven
I got ten working sets but the site updated and only 3 sets still work
and I did not care enough about the others to reconstitute them
You have to register for free and the maybe in the catalogue find what you want
and type in the symbol ^hui
There is a complete catalogue of the most exotic scripts you can try them all
takes like 4 hrs time
Since I am strickly a sine wave timer I only use three every week
you must type in ^hui ( find out where the sign before hui comes from it
is the french chapeau circomflexe and on my eurokeybord it is alt and the secondlast key from the second last row on the keyboard )

Here are my refs for the link ; but I do not know the refs will take u past the portal

ChartScript - DE: Near Real-time Hurst DE
http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/editsystem?id=18210

ChartScript - DE: Hurst Dominancy Envelope Using 2x Smoothed MA's, v1.1
http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/editsystem?id=18395

ChartScript - Total Cyclic Package v3.0 (Centered SMA
http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/editsystem?id=20031

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 21, 2010, 12:01:56 AM
@dharmeye
with me the refs take me directly to the script input window
but I am a registered member
If it works for you then you can put in any goldminer share you like
They work best in an alternative fashion
One month one will work best; the other month the other will work best

There are dozens of  Hurst variations in the basic database

At the start I would get the HUI and all components but that broke down
when they updated the site and Seven of Eleven never seems to revisit anything old
but moves on all the time
He went from programmer to photoshopper to goldgrader to owner of a goldcoinbusiness
to divorced and retired . He got an eagle eye for chartsymmetry and gold coins

At present his mother is dying so I only talk once a week to him
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 21, 2010, 01:46:41 AM
Still on course for a march high whatever Prechter and the paid newslettre may say
But whatever the lousy high may be I am going to sell 15% cause I get finicky


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 21, 2010, 01:51:45 AM
Yes I like to strip Greece
It is strange I see this article only 5 days after publishing

Greece loses EU voting power in blow to sovereignty
The European Union has shown its righteous wrath by stripping Greece of its vote at a crucial meeting next month, the worst humiliation ever suffered by an EU member state
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor
Published: 7:56PM GMT 16 Feb 2010


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/7252288/Greece-loses-EU-voting-power-in-blow-to-sovereignty.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 21, 2010, 02:59:17 PM
Heavenly Father,

So far over the past year you have taken away from us my favorite dancer, Michael Jackson, my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite comedian, Soupy Sales, my favorite pitchman, Billy Mays and my favorite sidekick, Ed McMahon.

I know you sometimes work in mysterious ways but just so you know, my favorite politicians are Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Thank you,

     
    Amen
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 21, 2010, 11:18:48 PM
Heavenly Father,

So far over the past year you have taken away from us my favorite dancer, Michael Jackson, my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite comedian, Soupy Sales, my favorite pitchman, Billy Mays and my favorite sidekick, Ed McMahon.

I know you sometimes work in mysterious ways but just so you know, my favorite politicians are Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Thank you,
 Amen

To you uncaring entity in the other dimension

You have seen fit to make French Telecom visited by the highest suicide rate in the world
Why on earth and in heaven did Goldman Sachs loose the contest ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 21, 2010, 11:27:20 PM
According to these statisticks there are a lot of " working" americans that earn a lot more then the others
average is total salaries pool devided by the amount of people let us call this 100 people for the example
median is citizen nr 50 meaning 49 earn less and 50 earn more
In a true bellshaped gaussian statistics curve the average and the mean have to be the same
So we have a very skewed curve favouring the very high earners

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S4GiO1cIWII/AAAAAAAAL6Y/A_5C9WpW05U/s400/avg_median.PNG)

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/02/failure-of-bubble-nomics.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 22, 2010, 01:43:54 AM
Will the real Harmony gold stand up please


http://www.miningmx.com/opinion/x_factor/Harmony-Gold-or-is-that-Harmony-Gold-Corp.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 22, 2010, 03:22:20 AM
Heavenly Father,

So far over the past year you have taken away from us my favorite dancer, Michael Jackson, my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite comedian, Soupy Sales, my favorite pitchman, Billy Mays and my favorite sidekick, Ed McMahon.

I know you sometimes work in mysterious ways but just so you know, my favorite politicians are Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Thank you,

    
    Amen

Whadda the unwashed and unworthy,  :D
 
This is Harry here to tell you that Barack is  the Heavenly Father. And Nancy Pelosi is our Heavenly Mother and Queen of Skizzies. And goldman sachs, they are like golden angels singing in the choir.--"Now we are gathered at the TarPit, the beautiful, beautiful TarPit..."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 22, 2010, 03:27:26 AM
You know the Dow would be worth about $29.95 if they didn't have all these sneak thieves  propping it up.

  By Rachelle Younglai Rachelle Younglai   – Fri Feb 19, 6:26 pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Securities regulators will consider new short-sale restrictions on Wednesday, more than a year after the financial crisis provoked cries to rein in investors who bet on a stock's decline.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 22, 2010, 09:32:21 PM
Quote
Millions of Unemployed Face Years Without Jobs 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/business/economy/21unemployed.html?pagewanted=all
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 22, 2010, 09:33:54 PM
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Greenspan wins Dynamite Prize in Economics

Alan Greenspan has been judged the economist most responsible for causing the Global Financial Crisis. He and 2nd and 3rd place finishers Milton Friedman and Larry Summers have won the first–and hopefully last—Dynamite Prize in Economics.
 


http://rwer.wordpress.com/vote-here-for-the-dynamite-prize-in-economics/
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 23, 2010, 01:13:42 AM
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Millions of Unemployed Face Years Without Jobs 

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/business/economy/21unemployed.html?pagewanted=all
South of the bourder the storys being told is that all the Gringo's do ever day is walk around and never work. This is part of  the reason it sounds so good to the peon who attempts to cross into the country every day of the year.  When they get here now, they may be able to see that this is actually true.

Yesterday in the news they said that politicians are looking in how to increase contractual bureaucrats their pensions as fast as possible . The town would have to pay their own
There was a realist whining that it was totally impossible even at 3% per year every year
more set aside it could not be done
First and last realist I saw on TV this year I am sure

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Post by: longnine009 on February 23, 2010, 03:15:53 AM
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Millions of Unemployed Face Years Without Jobs  

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/business/economy/21unemployed.html?pagewanted=all

People had better realize "WE'RE ON OUR OWN."  The jobs aren't coming back. It's a  depression not a recession . The longer  the Synchronized Simpletons try to keep the depression from doing what it suppose to do--KILL RETARDS--the longer it will take to be over with--I suggest that Americans see Japan if they need someone to draw them a picture. That picture is already 20 years old and still in progress.  Oh, and I doubt that the gubment is going to be handing out unemployment checks and paying mortgages for the next 20 years. That won't leave any money for their fifth generation welfare bums who are grandfathered in. They are ENTITLED to that check!

By the time this is *really* over we'll be damn lucky if we're not a corporate/maoist state with  knobheads from goldman sachs sitting in the U.S Politburo.

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"
Johnny Rotten


 "Forwarrrd....hoooooooo"
Ben Bernanke riding out to Little Big Horn to give the Indians a good thrashing.

"Wait, hold up Ben.  Oh man, first that clicky thing with the mouse and now this steppie thing with the horse. So Ben, like there's a particular side that I  climb up from to get on this horse?"
   Yeah, that's Tim.


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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 23, 2010, 03:41:07 AM
The supermarket Carrefour is going to lay off like 2000-5000 people in Belgium
What is the first kneejerk reactions
GO ON STRIKE

The last working will be the ones looking at taxdeclarations with the same 37 dolemoney a day on all of the declarations . Oh wait they automated that this year . Who will be left ? Ah yes 3 kinds of goverment
Flemish  walloon and brussels
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 23, 2010, 05:24:43 AM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/6dv53q.jpg)
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Post by: TwoShadows on February 23, 2010, 08:12:34 AM
All they have ever known is SPEND, SPEND and SPEND. They could have ended the whole mess over here if they would have given all those billions to the taxpayers who would have inturn flooded the economy, the banks and investments with much needed capital. They would have paid off mortgages, built new homes, bought furniture, put kids through college, bought automobiles and on and on and on. But NO give it to the crooks who are sucking the very wealth out of the world and see what happens this time around? :'(

Almost everyone in power, and I mean REAL POWER, have never had a want for anything. They have never had a budget or knew any hardships. Born with a silver spoon in their mouths and protected by big money and a government out of control. You want a REAL budget and hope? Elect middle class taxpayers at an honest wage, make lobbying illegal, kill off thousands of useless programs and put government back to its original duties. We are tired of financing every damned aspect of life and entertainment in this country. But you MUST have all these stupid programs to hide funds, to transfer taxpayer money and too steal from the working class with absolutely no way to track such monies. Same goes for foreign aid! It is nothing more than a way to transfer taxpayer money to family and friends around the world. Its all a con!
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Post by: longnine009 on February 23, 2010, 02:32:06 PM
BO's weekly photo op is going to be the summit on health care reform. There are 3,500 lobbyists lobbying for it! You don't need 3,500 lobbyists to get  a good bill passed. You need 3,500 lobbyists to get a piece of shit  passed.
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Post by: longnine009 on February 23, 2010, 02:41:19 PM
OldDan should get a kick out this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/nursing-home-residents-fo_n_471398.html
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Post by: whadda on February 23, 2010, 03:09:43 PM
BO's weekly photo op is going to be the summit on health care reform. There are 3,500 lobbyists lobbying for it! You don't need 3,500 lobbyists to get  a good bill passed. You need 3,500 lobbyists to get a piece of shit  passed.

Lobbyists actually write a bill's language then submit it via a congress-person to have it introduced for passage hoping the contributions to election campaigns or perks are enough to do the trick. Enacted legislation is just a patchwork of submitted language with attached amendments, ryders, etc, otherwise commonly known as 'pork' that becomes law.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 23, 2010, 11:05:38 PM
Belgium wants to be remembered proudly as giving
hundreds of millions of euro to Haiti
In the old days 10% would be the handling fee of the HQ of the dogoodders ( doggodders)
then the troops would take 30% for advancing the movement
Then bank and transfers would take 10% and the government of the state receiving the aid
would take 99% of the remainder as their just right and blame the giving country for giving a
mere almond

In the meantime we had homeless people sleeping in the train station in Brussels so as not
to freeze to death . Homeless who refused the use of very large empty military barracks

I do not understand this world anymore . So I only give to KOTCT and my wife  ;D
And I fully expect to be screwed by all but one . :P
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 23, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S4RthhPAnYI/AAAAAAAAL7w/ONuU2U4dq68/s400/treasuryfictino.JPG)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 01:32:17 AM
And I fully expect to be screwed by all but one . :P
Are you bragging or complaining? ???

Eh ? Come again  ;D
Engleeese is my 3rd langweeeze  I not unnerstand
PS I am not complaining I get too much : I am adaptable
Bragging would be I said I had 7 happy moments in 24 hours like when I was 20 ;)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 01:44:56 AM
I object very much to somebody with a name like Debora Levine
saying that gold is down before Bernanke
Before this is over Bernanke will be in protectional custody

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-down-a-third-day-before-bernanke-2010-02-24?siteid=msn
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Post by: longnine009 on February 24, 2010, 03:54:46 AM
She thinks the opinions of the clueless Bernanke (or anyone else) effects the mood of markets. So that makes her the  clueless observing the clueless. Maybe  BO should make her the  Clueless Czar.  She would make the perfect substitute for Gordon Brown who would take that post but is too busy right now trying to keep Atlantis from punching a hole through Manhattan  as it rises from the depths in 2012. 
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Post by: TwoShadows on February 24, 2010, 04:14:33 AM
Just think WE are paying these people to act clueless or as we call it in Indiana----STUPID! Living like Kings and Queens off the backs of the very people they are screwing! They are nothing more than stool pigeons for those really in control and we don't even know who they are! :'(
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 06:06:55 AM
Well this beats all
I am non political because that is heartburn and a loss of time to be political
But a guy called Van Rompuy and Belgian just became president or head honcho
of the European Union ( he is a mouse and a cameleon and undescript )
The inauguration was today filmed by everybody
Is that no name limey who starts insulting like the best bouncer I ever heard making
mouth noices
He says who is that never heard of Von Rompuuy and what is he doing here
coming from a NON COUNTRY like Belgium etc etc and the honcho in charge
let him go on and on
Well I hope if the limeys ever come and ask for an euro that Brussels will tell them
to go back to their island is it Wales or England or Scotland or Farouk or Eire
I don't care . Somebody should tell them their Empire is GONE ???

and this non country has a better payment balance than the empire where the sun never set
in the very far past
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Post by: whadda on February 24, 2010, 06:23:08 AM
Belgium is a country?

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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 06:28:48 AM
That is what Napoleon claimed

On the other hand there was this "police" marechaussé general who said to the king that
Belgians do not exist
And he was right . I am Flemish  ??? I want to separate from the losers which
are Walloons and Brussels  :P

There was this Flemish activist who died at the hands of the marechausé and when he
was buried the mounted police fired into is coffin : to make sure he really was dead  ???
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 06:31:05 AM
It seems 1090 $ an ounce is a battle field

On days like this I disconnect my investment program and go slumming
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Post by: longnine009 on February 24, 2010, 07:44:48 AM
They are nothing more than stool pigeons for those really in control and we don't even know who they are! :'(

That's the whole purpose of democracy. To shield the aristocrats from the mobs. Elections are nothing but an appeasement episode. Instead of lopping off heads, people "vote the bums out." How long does this "vote the bums out" go on for before people figure  it out? Accepting the premise that candidate "A" is better because he sucks less than candidate "B" is saying that marginal is better than nothing.  As long as we continue to accept that and play their games marginal is all we are going to get.

Democracy being 51 percent of the population telling the other 49 percent what to do would be bad enough if it were true. It's more like 3,500 lobbyists telling the whole country what to do.

Dear Thom Jefferson:
Tell me again about that tree of liberty?
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 09:11:25 AM
The iluminati think there effing us
but in the end the will all have died of old age  :D
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Post by: dharmaeye on February 24, 2010, 02:42:48 PM
They are nothing more than stool pigeons for those really in control and we don't even know who they are! :'(

That's the whole purpose of democracy. To shield the aristocrats from the mobs. Elections are nothing but an appeasement episode. Instead of lopping off heads, people "vote the bums out." How long does this "vote the bums out" go on for before people figure  it out? Accepting the premise that candidate "A" is better because he sucks less than candidate "B" is saying that marginal is better than nothing.  As long as we continue to accept that and play their games marginal is all we are going to get.

Democracy being 51 percent of the population telling the other 49 percent what to do would be bad enough if it were true. It's more like 3,500 lobbyists telling the whole country what to do.

Dear Thom Jefferson:
Tell me again about that tree of liberty?

The USA was started as a Republic with the federal governments purpose to protect individual rights above all else (and thus eliminating the monarchy, dictators.... The US Constitution  as originally written supported this. I'm afraid this has ended and I thus moved back to Canada. Actually Canadian's under the Bill of Rights has no property rights.
I guess I'm afraid that things are generally going to get nasty.

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Post by: whadda on February 24, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
'The Nazis took our gold, they should at least thank us': Greek deputy PM's extraordinary attack on Germany over debt crisis (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1253416/Greece-accuses-Germany-wrecking-economy-Nazi-occupation-debt-ridden-nation-hit-strikes.html)
Quite the food fight going on over there.
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Post by: longnine009 on February 24, 2010, 09:49:30 PM
The iluminati think there effing us
but in the end the will all have died of old age  :D

Oh dear, how then will the U.S House of  Cucarachas  "earn" a living?   ;D
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 11:46:55 PM
'The Nazis took our gold, they should at least thank us': Greek deputy PM's extraordinary attack on Germany over debt crisis (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1253416/Greece-accuses-Germany-wrecking-economy-Nazi-occupation-debt-ridden-nation-hit-strikes.html)
Quite the food fight going on over there.

It is of course spilled milk but they are right
My father was guest of the germans from 1940 till 1944 eating gras and worms and scarabs
He came back a broken man . The house was bombed away by the alies . Gone
After 50 years the germans offered to pay recompensations when he was dead like for 5 years .
We all suffered at the hands of the germans to see them get rich from handouts from the americans
Then to see them screw themselves to death over taking eastgermany back .
They never recovered from that poison pill .
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
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  They have our wallets. What more can they want? 

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S4Wnnf36acI/AAAAAAAAL8Y/VH7ECLW1gzg/s400/temppulp.JPG)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 24, 2010, 11:59:25 PM
Will the gold 107 day cycle endure ?
Will Batman be able to repair his batmobiele ?
Will the Joker be revealed as Bernnankebe ?
Stay tuned to this station ; you will not hear it anywhere else first .
Your paint handyman sponsered by MGM and "paint your wagon"

More important did the cycle peak early at 65% on 22 feb ?
Only time will tell unles you got a direct line to the chinese headhonchos

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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 25, 2010, 02:05:24 AM
It is a miners bloodbath
They are trying to cash in into weakness
Oceana going down to get out with a gain ( I am out for more n a week now)
Dollar going up of course
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 25, 2010, 02:23:02 AM
one by one turning green
the dow is going but the miners seem to be winning this battle today

All that whilst I am listening to the hitparade of 1968
I am on Hush not a word to Mary (john rowles)
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Post by: longnine009 on February 25, 2010, 03:24:39 AM
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 They have our wallets. What more can they want?  

Remember what O'Brien told Winston in 1984? "It's not enough to believe in Big Brother, you have to love him."

*******************************************************
WASHINGTON – New claims for unemployment benefits jumped unexpectedly last week, mostly because state agencies processed a backlog of claims caused by snowstorms the previous week.
*******************************************************
Imagine that. I thought it rose because we are a "unexpectedly" depression, "unexpectedly" speaking.  

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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 25, 2010, 03:30:26 AM
What a day
a 2% negative headfake for most miners and now all up 2 to 7%
But dow still waiting for 911 rescue

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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 25, 2010, 03:33:28 AM
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 They have our wallets. What more can they want?  

Remember what O'Brien told Winston in 1984? "It's not enough to believe in Big Brother, you have to love him."

*******************************************************
WASHINGTON – New claims for unemployment benefits jumped unexpectedly last week, mostly because state agencies processed a backlog of claims caused by snowstorms the previous week.
*******************************************************
Imagine that. I thought it rose because we are a "unexpectedly" depression, "unexpectedly" speaking. 


I was listening to the British top 30 of 1968
Anyone remember this duo ?

Esther and Abi Ofarim
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Post by: longnine009 on February 25, 2010, 03:37:47 AM
Hey what's up with Obama's gray hair? Did he get that in just one year? I don't remember him having gray hair before. Maybe they're trying to dress him now to resemble the ever reassuring Doctor Marcus Welby MD. Gotta have a touch of gray hair for that.  Wait until the democrats are done laughing at his suggestion that they sacrifice themselves in the election by voting anyway for the good Doctor's  Health Care reform.
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Post by: whadda on February 25, 2010, 04:54:40 AM

Quote
I was listening to the British top 30 of 1968
Anyone remember this duo ?

Esther and Abi Ofarim


Remember them? You can still get concert tickets for their tours. Bee Gees gave them their start.

Added some NG this morning. The end of the month noise ending a little early with a reaction to being oversold.

Maybe Greece can ask for reparations from the Roman Empire just insult them first before asking.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 25, 2010, 05:07:44 AM


I was listening to the British top 30 of 1968
Anyone remember this duo ?

Esther and Abi Ofarim


Quote
  Remember them? You can still get concert tickets for their tours. Bee Gees gave them their start.

Added some NG this morning. The end of the month noise ending a little early with a reaction to being oversold.

Maybe Greece can ask for reparations from the Roman Empire just insult them first before asking.
[/quote]

Beware of the Greek bearing gifts  ;D
They can allways eat their sheep and olives

I did not know the ofarims were still together but I saw they have a german internet site
Anyways I was not thinking of the Rockefeller song which they had 13 weeks in the top
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/lyricso/ofarim.html

But I was listening to a "little known ?" song walz on
her hubby is sick she keeps on dancing
her hubby is dying she keeps on dancing
her hubby is dead she keeps on dancing
her hubbys will is going to be read , time to stop and go home  ;D

What I see in the goldminer market is distress buying by those that were out
Please keep this up for another three weeks mister and misses distressed with money
but no miners  ::)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 25, 2010, 05:12:04 AM
It looks like a decoupling from gold and miners from dow and company

Oh how I would wish this were true

I am fully loaded apart from emergency money in basic trading and physical ports
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 25, 2010, 06:14:39 AM
You may have noticed that China has been dumping it’s holdings of U.S. Treasuries, dumping more than $34 billion in American IOUs in one month (December}, slashing its holdings from last year a total of $45 billion.
With that in mind........
Gold Miners to look at:
#1 Agnico-Eagle Mines (AEM)
#2: Goldcorp (GG)
#3: Kinross Gold (KGC)

I had heaps of Echo Bay and as a result I still got heaps of Kinross but it is on the
underperform and reduce list I made myself
Together with Anglogold Ashanti and Harmony

On the buy list I have New Gold and Osisko and Novagold
On the accumulation list I have Oceana

On the trade list I have Yamana , Tanzanian; Great basin gold

Minefinders and Durban deep are in limbo ( no list )
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Post by: whadda on February 25, 2010, 09:03:43 AM
You may have noticed that China has been dumping it’s holdings of U.S. Treasuries, dumping more than $34 billion in American IOUs in one month (December}, slashing its holdings from last year a total of $45 billion.
With that in mind........
Gold Miners to look at:
#1 Agnico-Eagle Mines (AEM)
#2: Goldcorp (GG)
#3: Kinross Gold (KGC)


It's not quite true about Chinese dumping, their stealth Ts and bond buying continues via Hong Kong. Tied at the hip with the dollar they can't allow the dollar to fall to far to fast or the locals will make Greece look like it's having a tea party.

Prefer juniors to seniors for the most part then penny stocks (anything under $5).
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Post by: whadda on February 25, 2010, 02:15:18 PM
It's not quite true about Chinese dumping, their stealth Ts and bond buying continues via Hong Kong.
May be true, but just how Chinese IS Hong Kong?
Good question. Britain gave it back to China in 1997 but Hong Kong has its own currency and is at the very least a thriving financial center and acts as a go between, China and the outside world besides having a world class port and highly developed manufacturing center. We'll see how long it takes China to assimilate Hong Kong completely into the collective.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 26, 2010, 01:57:07 AM
AIG still having problems ?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7umvCgNDaOo&pos=2
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 26, 2010, 02:25:08 AM
I was surfing the web to find who sung Put another nickel in the nickelodeon
When I stumbled on a site which said I could get a green card if I choose the
president of the US right
So I put in the female as president  :P

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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 26, 2010, 02:34:48 AM
This is working
The more old music I play the higher gold is going ;)
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Post by: Goose on February 26, 2010, 05:10:58 AM
P Y W, "Put another nickel in, in the....." was sung by Theresa Brewer sometime around 1950. Ahhh, I remember it well as I was learning how to ice skate on a Chicago city's park ice rink with music playing. I think the title of the song was 'Music, Music, Music'.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 26, 2010, 05:59:45 AM
P Y W, "Put another nickel in, in the....." was sung by Theresa Brewer sometime around 1950. Ahhh, I remember it well as I was learning how to ice skate on a Chicago city's park ice rink with music playing. I think the title of the song was 'Music, Music, Music'.

Thanks I found it under music music music

We had real fairs in those days when I was young lasting three weeks
I would hang around the bumper cars with their jukeboxes blaring out all the songs
of the moment sometimes years later then the US releases.
I am sure the phrase stuck long before I learned english ; since english only started in 3rd humaniora which is the 9 year of schooling
I got like 1000 songs now having reconstructed most I heard and liked
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Post by: longnine009 on February 26, 2010, 07:59:42 AM
AIG still having problems ?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7umvCgNDaOo&pos=2


"Shout Shout knock yourself out..
Comeon yell yell loud and swell
You gotta Scream scream you know what I mean,
Put another trillion  in the insurance machine.."

Parody on Shout Shout.

Ha ha, 2009 4th quarter revised GDP is 5.9%  They must be adding some kind of productive value to Bernanke tickling everyone's nuts.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 26, 2010, 10:25:14 AM
Try finding.......

Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen - Smoke, Smoke, Smoke (That Cigarette)

or

Playmates - Beep Beep (The Little Nash Rambler)

or
 
Larry Verne - Mr. Custer

or

Kingston Trio - M.T.A.

or

Bing Crosby & Andrews Sisters - Swinging on a Star

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 26, 2010, 10:56:05 AM
AIG still having problems ?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7umvCgNDaOo&pos=2

The big boys wrote swaps for Greece to get into the EU and the EU is now refusing to report what they are worth.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 26, 2010, 03:07:55 PM
Try finding.......

Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen - Smoke, Smoke, Smoke (That Cigarette)

or

Playmates - Beep Beep (The Little Nash Rambler)

or
 
Larry Verne - Mr. Custer

or

Kingston Trio - M.T.A.

or

Bing Crosby & Andrews Sisters - Swinging on a Star



Commander Cody did Hot Rod Lincoln too didn't he?
What's more fitting for Geithner and Bernanke? The song Hot Smoke and Sassafras or the name of the group Bubble Puppy?

Stocks for the long run:  96 Tears.

Here's one for us. Steve Miller Band  "Your cash ain't nothing but trash." Around 1974.

Glenn Fry: "I got sick of my job, sick of my wife, sick of my future and sick my life, packed up the car and I got some gas, told everybody they could kiss my ass, I'm going to party town. " ;D

Okay, gotta go back to work now.
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Post by: whadda on February 26, 2010, 04:11:43 PM
.....Yeah and 'Lost In The Ozone Again' and 'Down To Seeds & Stems'

Eagles in a class by themselves.

From a Youtube comment....."Actually it says in my CD that they got the name from Huxley's book "Brave New World" in which a game called "Bumble Puppy" was mentioned. They were tripping on acid while reading passages from the book and just changed it to "Bubble Puppy."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 26, 2010, 11:36:39 PM
They have'nt served my wine since 1969

Let's be more optimistic
I like Albatros bird of good omen ( after listening to Joan Baez for half an hour )

Goldminers are going to go up the next week(s) in a misery rise or the real thing depending
on what the PPT let them do.

Monday will give an whole set of new charts
New month, new week, ,new day
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 27, 2010, 12:06:59 AM
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This is one of the tried-and-true ways that governments ("desperate morons in charge!") seem to think will actually work, despite the obvious stupidity of it, and that is why I was shocked when I saw that Obama is endorsing legislation to prevent health insurance companies from raising prices! Unbelievable! Gaaaaahhhhh! 

And pray Mogambu Guru (PMG) why would BO be less moronic then the french kings
that put merchants to death for raising prices  ? Why cannot HE have anything he wishes (AHW ) why cannot he be what the germans call the Afro Jesus ?

http://www.safehaven.com/article-15924.htm
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 27, 2010, 12:28:01 AM
today Hurst dominancy envelopes best reflect my feel for HUI

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 27, 2010, 04:24:04 AM
Fannie Mae want another 15 billion pocket money  ;D


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aZ7Vw70CckxU&pos=2
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 27, 2010, 09:28:32 AM
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This is one of the tried-and-true ways that governments ("desperate morons in charge!") seem to think will actually work, despite the obvious stupidity of it, and that is why I was shocked when I saw that Obama is endorsing legislation to prevent health insurance companies from raising prices! Unbelievable! Gaaaaahhhhh!  

And pray Mogambu Guru (PMG) why would BO be less moronic then the french kings
that put merchants to death for raising prices  ? Why cannot HE have anything he wishes (AHW ) why cannot he be what the germans call the Afro Jesus ?

http://www.safehaven.com/article-15924.htm


Obama could care less what's in that bill as long as his name is next to the word "reform."  Maybe his ideologists have associated "reform" with godliness. Too bad, historically  reform is the last screech of the retreating hustler.  Oh, and the  "reform" bill also does not allow people to shop out of state for coverage. What happened to the "free trade"  hypocrisy? I don't care what it looks like on the surface. I don't care about BO's sock puppet "attacks" on the insurance industry. Before it's over, if it passes, it will be nothing but a  back door bail out for these scumbag insurance companies who lost their asses in hedge funds and derivatives.

Mandatory health insurance will be as "good for Americans and good for "America as  East Germany was for the Germans living there. It was so good for them that it was imposed on them with tanks and a wall.

Dear Harry and Seahag: Can you say:  "Ich bin ein  insurance shill from cucaracha hill."  

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 27, 2010, 11:09:06 AM
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Oh, and the  "reform" bill also does not allow people to shop out of state for coverage. 

Oh at one time car insurance was like less then half price in Great Britain then in Belgium
However it was not allowed to buy it there . Other things are like virtual monopolies
Internet access and download volumes is of the highest cost in Belgium ; but it is not possible to ask for a fiber cable from France eh ? And moreover Belgacom had a record year and turned out record dividends to the state who is still large shareholder.
In theory we are free now to choose our electricity provider and electricity transporter but I cannot be bothered cause the "free" market is really artificial and the majority will allways be with the most expensive ( by strange coincidence )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 27, 2010, 11:43:32 PM
New week new weekly chart

Gold shooting up for the march high as expected for the last 8 weeks
I still believe it is going to be a relative high with few pleasure to the holders


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 27, 2010, 11:47:12 PM
HUI new week new weekly chart

HUI like most of the time is running late vis a vis gold

I still plan to rearange by selling 20% of my miners in the weekly high when it comes in march

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 28, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
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FWIW, I've argued for a decade that EMU (not EU), and hence the Euro, was doomed from the starting gate. No currency union in history has ever survived, let alone thrived, without concomitant and (more or less) equal political union. Neither concomitancy nor equality exist in the EU/EMU relationships, other than by a certain amount of lip service.

EMU (hence, again, Euro) is governed by a substantially different set of rules than is EU. The boffins can either rectify this situation or stare squarely in the eye of failure. Because the necessary machinery for EMU reform does not exist in either the Maastricht or Lisbon agreements, the boffins will have to make it up from scratch...likely without any sort of public input or vote at all. This latter situation is absolutely certain to make large portions of various nations furious with them, but, as they (EU and EMU) haven't to date cared about popular opinion, there's no particular reason to think that they will begin to do so here.

These people are, generally, statist technocrats, who believe -- oddly, rather reminiscently of the 'divine right of kings' that they rightly despise -- that they and they alone have the required wisdom and ability to address/solve various policy problems, and that the sundry electorates of the EU haven't a clue. They are in error, but they have not learnt this lesson yet; the learning will be painful.

As to predictions of the value of Euro vs. other currencies, one must examine a variety of possible outcomes.

Suppose the proposal floated by Germany's state-owned lender, KfW (up to E $25 billion in aid, via purchase of Greek debt) is enacted. Euro will get a short-term bounce upward vs. most other currencies, the emphasis being on short. This bounce will last, absent other action(s), perhaps as little as 3 days, perhaps as long as a month.

This KfW programme is just at best a band-aid, though; Greece's financial problems are far worse than anything an E $25 billion figure can cure, and the band-aid itself is thoroughly septic. As surely as the sun rises, Greece will be back at the trough for more aid within a couple-few months, and possibly sooner. As if that isn't bad enough, Portugal (who are another basket case) and Spain ('too big to fail', where have we heard that before, eh?) and Italy (who have been profligates for decades, largely due to their inimitable -- thank G-d! -- political 'system') will be lining up at the bailout trough within X months or a year.

The net of this is: open the bailout floodgates for one nation, and be drowned by the rest. How can Germany (the only nation that matters on the financial side for EMU) say 'yes' to one or some and 'no' to the rest? The screaming from the 'no' countries would never cease. Yet, how can Germany say 'yes' to all comers? They cannot. There is simply not enough slop to feed all the bailout hogs who will show up at the trough. Germany, of course, know this. Quite a dilemma.

In the case of an initial bailout, the currency mkt participants will, sooner than later, figure out, ''Oh, shjt, here we go again.'' and the Euro will tank. I'm on record as stating that Euro will lose from 6 to 12 handles (just btw, from 1.36 to 1.35 vs. USD is 1 'handle') within 90-120 days of a firm bailout action. The loss could be much greater, and will apply to Euro vs. other currencies as well. Euro Bunds will take a sizeable hit as well, but I rather think that this hit will come on/after the second bailout (matters not who the second bailout nation is, btw), which is as inevitable, given the first bailout, as death itself.

===

Now, suppose that instead of even starting down the bailout road to hell, EMU says to Greece: ''Figure it out for yourselves, gents.'' Fine, the sequel here, short-term, is equally obvious. Greece will undoubtedly see severe levels of civil unrest, considerably worse than today's, and almost surely a fall of the gov't. EU/EMU will take the attitude that, as long as said unrest isn't ''contagious'', they'll stay well away from it, mouthing platitudes all the while, for as long as they can. Why?

Because, lawfully at any rate, they have to do. There is (again) no mechanism in any of the EU/EMU founding agreements for intervention in one nation by the collective and indeed, national sovereignity is in some sense 'guaranteed'. If they should intervene, they would be acting unlawfully by definition, and their credibility on other matters would drop sharply. If you should happen to believe that credibility is not very high on the EU/EMU list of priorities, please think again: the whole of the EU/EMU rests on believing (and getting other nations to believe) that, history notwithstanding, Europe is one nice big fuzzy ball of nations yearning to get along with each other. Political intervention would put the lie to that straightaway (not that any sane person believes the proposition now, or has at any time, of course). The Eurocrats would simply hate to have their noses rubbed in their hypocrisy and silly assumptions, worldwide and publicly...and they'll avoid this outcome until they have no other choice.

The effect on Euro in this case is problematic. One can make the case that the currency mkts will simply ignore Greece in this event (most of Greek debt is held by France and UK, after all), and say that Euro will here resume trading on ordinary economic considerations. However, this strikes me as rather whistling past the graveyard. The debt problems of the PIIGS aren't going to go away by themselves, now are they? Thus, it's actually just a matter of time until the next of the PIIGS hit the wall, and EU/EMU will face the same choice again. My money on the next of these, just btw, is on Portugal, within 30-120 days' time.

Net for the Euro in this case? Steady to lower until the next national debt crisis manifests itself, ceteris paribus.

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One other option remains. Suppose EU/EMU (or just EMU) simply boot Greece from their 'union'? Again, this is absolutely unlawful according to Masstricht and Lisbon, but who's to say the idea is off the table? Yes, EU/EMU will suffer credibility problems, which they will loathe, but in this case they've quite a good defence.

That defence is to state, and correctly so, that Greece never should have been admitted in the first place. The books were fudged to show that Greece's financial state was much better than in fact it was (our old friends at Goldman Sachs had a significant role in this little charade, if you don't happen to know this already). They can say, with a great amount of truth, that ''We (EU/EMU) were defrauded upon the entry of Greece, and we consider that the tenets of Maastricht and/or Lisbon do not apply in the case of fraud.''

Now, notwithstanding that EU/EMU were perfectly well aware of at least parts of the fraud, and gross hypocrisy aside, this might be an effective argument to the currency mkts for leaving Euro more or less alone. Difficult to say just now.

EU/EMU gain another advantage if they boot Greece, though. This would be the clearest possible signal to the other PIIGS (and future would-be bailout pleaders) to 'straighten up and fly right', as the old American song used to say. Obey the budgetary principles in Maastricht, or we'll just cut you loose, verstehen zie?

Of course, if the self-induced debt crisis persists too far, this strategy shows diminishing returns rather quickly. EU/EMU can only boot out so many nations without downsising itself/themselves into irrelevancy. I suppose the ultimate case would be a reversion to the old Common Market nations, ex-Italy...but I should think that, in that case, we all of us would have much more severe problems about which to worry.

Effect on the Euro if the 'boot-out' strategy is employed? The currency mkts will cheer and Euro should rise, at least at first, as the perception will be that EU/EMU have gotten rid of a problem once for-all. If a second boot-out should occur (assuming rather dubiously that the Eurocrats would be consistent in executing this policy), Euro would start to suffer. Mkt participants would ask themselves, "Who's next?'', and this would be a very legitimate question. Currency mkts do not like serious and ongoing questions, and at some point, likely sooner than later, would start beating up Euro again.

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Hope this little essay is of some use, and good trading to you!
18 posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:16:40 AM by SAJ (Zerobama? A phony and a prick, ergo a dildo.)
Found at Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2461115/posts)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 28, 2010, 08:46:50 AM
In my MBA studies were several examples of very sucessful companies growing so fast
they died

I think all we need is the Benelux with Germany and France in a 5 country union to be stable
and prodigious . Junk all those Brussels based bureaucrats which are very expensive and giving
nothing extra
Look at the EU manager list and you will find British and Spanish and Italian mgrs not
even remotely intrested in pulling their weight .
The US however don't even have the option of shedding Tarzan and his spendors unless an
earthquake just removes them from the map >:(
I think we are all doomed and it does not help to hope the other is doomed first  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 28, 2010, 04:00:29 PM
Personally, I knew that OlDan. I pay attention to politics....have for 54 yrs now. I've heard both Bushes mention "One World Order" and just a week ago, the Pope wants "One World Order".....for 'peace'. Hoo-Boy, are we in for it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 28, 2010, 05:04:23 PM
It's important to try and stay a step ahead of events as they are unfolding if for nothing else so you won't be caught off guard or surprised.

Because they are losing control long term the big boys' outlook seems to be about week or month to try and make a killing, long term investing is definitely passe.

China announces intentions to bid gold at market, why advertise before hand?  Between political and military leaders there I don't think they have clue. If infighting came to the forefront or conflicts between back alley trading partners erupted such events would really be destabilizing.

Without consumers on a worldwide basis buying more goods or demanding more credit, markets will go sideways or down. First Europe will wallow in mud then about April the States like California will wallow in the mud when a new budget has to be worked out. You can forget about real estate since no one can keep a job long enough to buy up ten years wortn of housing supply. Then bailout after bailout will be everywhere because nobody bothers to deal with debt just kicks the can down the road. Congress is a joke. One party voting no as a block is the only sign of hope so far since voters are tending to side with the noes.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on February 28, 2010, 06:29:59 PM
China top holder in US debt, after all (http://www.terradaily.com/reports/China_top_holder_in_US_debt_after_all_999.html)
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The sharp revision came as the Treasury Department looked at Chinese holdings in US Treasuries in third markets such as Britain and Hong Kong, which were not picked up by the earlier estimates.
(Not counting 7 trillion the Federal Reserve own)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 28, 2010, 11:12:47 PM
"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest." - James Warburg (Rothschild Banking Agent 1950)
 

They're so sure that they will get their one world government they've never been shy about stating it. And it's the chinese model that fascinates them the most which is why we've been kissing their ass even before we owed them trillions of dollars.

Is it just me, or has the Korean war, *that involved fighting Chinese troops as well as North Korean* disappeared from history?  

"...The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history."

Traitor #1  David Rockefeller

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow, they will be grateful! This would especially be true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by a World Government." - Henry Kissinger, Bilderburg Conference, Evians, France 1991

Traitor #2 and possibly tied for #1 with David.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 28, 2010, 11:40:27 PM
And there they go again ; trying to bring the pound to its knees which is much
easier then the euro
Germany and Fance allready promissed to cover like two thirds of Greeces shortfall this year

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Traders build up record bets against sterling

By Peter Garnham

Published: March 1 2010 11:12 | Last updated: March 1 2010 12:17

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2ac2c184-2517-11df-a189-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 28, 2010, 11:48:25 PM
In the meantime master magician BO thinks about a new nuclear strategy to eliminate
thousands of rockets our flemish newspaper reports based on a reference to the
New York Times
One cannot understand this untill one reads the last line
Billions of dollars invested in the Weopons Labs will have to insure
the reduced weaponry is and stays effective
What a lucky guy he has time to think about reducing weapons count
Could it be those weapons do not exist or no longer are functional ?

(http://static1.tijd.be/i/00/89/cd.250.jpeg?ts=1266854594000)

http://www.tijd.be/nieuws/buitenland/Obama_denkt_aan_nieuwe_atoomwapenstrategie.8303504-439.art
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 28, 2010, 11:53:09 PM
The monthly goldcycle is progressing nicely with a slow stoch bottom forming
A lower low in april ; may is still a possibility 50/50 like I would say
We seem from all accounts still on course for a relative march 19 th high
( allthough 8 march is still not excluede completely )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 01, 2010, 12:02:39 AM
As allways HUI running late and going to kiss 20%

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 01, 2010, 12:09:25 AM
Gold still on course for a relative high 19 march

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 01, 2010, 09:17:56 AM
Patience is virtue.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 01, 2010, 11:35:30 AM
In regards to weapons of mass destruction I will say this, "No country in the history of the world has ever willingly destroyed its most feared weapons unless they had discovered something much better!" Why keep your bow and arrow when you can have a rifle?
The problem now is a host of countries are currently building that which we want to get rid of. Nukes are messy, destroy everything for miles and make a very large area virtually inhabitable for years and years. I am sure the "big" boys have discovered something less messy and just as quick but without destroying buildings, farm land and the future! I might add the fact we have been trying to get rid of these darn things for years and years? Could this be just another scam or reverse fear psycology which benefits ALL nations?

Makes you want to go out and hoard gold and silver doesn't it? ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 01, 2010, 11:34:57 PM
Patience is virtue.

After 10 years mine is wearing thin
Even some of my emergency rations like rice are getting past their due date
So after the relative gold bottom of april ; I will start to trade the 35-50 days cycle  ???
I am bored playing computer games .
Relative slow stochs today versus a month ago show we are lower in price for the same
slow stoch . Bad high coming in goldshares . In euro and British pound gold reached another
all time high yesterday
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 01, 2010, 11:36:23 PM
In regards to weapons of mass destruction I will say this, "No country in the history of the world has ever willingly destroyed its most feared weapons unless they had discovered something much better!" Why keep your bow and arrow when you can have a rifle?
The problem now is a host of countries are currently building that which we want to get rid of. Nukes are messy, destroy everything for miles and make a very large area virtually inhabitable for years and years. I am sure the "big" boys have discovered something less messy and just as quick but without destroying buildings, farm land and the future! I might add the fact we have been trying to get rid of these darn things for years and years? Could this be just another scam or reverse fear psycology which benefits ALL nations?

Makes you want to go out and hoard gold and silver doesn't it? ;D

Oh but for 40 years now they have the neutron bomb
Kills everything living and after cleaning up the dead the buildings and fields can be reused immidiately

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 01, 2010, 11:38:16 PM
New aritmatic
You make one billion in gains and pay 1.3 billion to reward the people that made this possible

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RBS paid £1.3bn bonuses on profit of just £1bn
Royal Bank of Scotland paid its investment bankers £1.3bn in bonuses for making just £1bn in profit last year, not the record £5.7bn declared last week.
By Philip Aldrick
Published: 9:41PM GMT 28 Feb 2010 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/7340087/RBS-paid-1.3bn-bonuses-on-profit-of-just-1bn.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on March 02, 2010, 01:00:18 AM
WELL IT IS TAX TIME IN THE GOOD OLE USA .........MY HOME  HAS GONE DOWN IN VALUE BECAUSE SO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THEIR PAYMENTS UP........WHEN YOU HAVE NO JOB IT IS KINDA HARD TO PAY RENT.......MY PROPERTY UP NORTH HAS DEPRECIATED BY $5000.............EVERYTHING HAS GONE DOWN EXCEPT MY TAXES......CURIOUS......................WE NEED A CRUSADE HERE IN THE U.S........TO RECLAIM THE HOLY LAND FROM THE INFIDELS CALLED GOVERNMENT..........SHARPEN THE SWORDS...POLISH THE SHIELDS.........THERE ARE SHADOWS OVER THE HILL....DYLAN WAS RIGHT "THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING"...........I AM NOT FROM THIS CENTURY AND I SURE WON'T SEE THE NEXT ONE.....I THINK WE CAN BLAME IT ON THE HULA HOOP----ALL THAT TWIRLING AROUND CAUSED US TO LOOSE DIRECTION..........OH WELL.....JUST A THOUGHT

          YOUR CONFUSED SERVANT AND FRIEND.........THE TEMPLAR(http://)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 02, 2010, 02:35:21 AM
WELL IT IS TAX TIME IN THE GOOD OLE USA .........MY HOME  HAS GONE DOWN IN VALUE BECAUSE SO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THEIR PAYMENTS UP........WHEN YOU HAVE NO JOB IT IS KINDA HARD TO PAY RENT.......MY PROPERTY UP NORTH HAS DEPRECIATED BY $5000.............EVERYTHING HAS GONE DOWN EXCEPT MY TAXES......CURIOUS......................WE NEED A CRUSADE HERE IN THE U.S........TO RECLAIM THE HOLY LAND FROM THE INFIDELS CALLED GOVERNMENT..........SHARPEN THE SWORDS...POLISH THE SHIELDS.........THERE ARE SHADOWS OVER THE HILL....DYLAN WAS RIGHT "THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING"...........I AM NOT FROM THIS CENTURY AND I SURE WON'T SEE THE NEXT ONE.....I THINK WE CAN BLAME IT ON THE HULA HOOP----ALL THAT TWIRLING AROUND CAUSED US TO LOOSE DIRECTION..........OH WELL.....JUST A THOUGHT

          YOUR CONFUSED SERVANT AND FRIEND.........THE TEMPLAR(http://)


Belgium is on a clompletely different tax cycle
I received the forms last year in may and filled in the OXO boxes last june I think .They change
the deadline every time they have a problem may-june-july-august like I think . The national taxes
take up to 52% of overall average income with 65% for the highest slice .The national taxes also collect the city taxes anywhere between zero and 12% depending in what city you choose to live
I live in a 7% city I think
On the national taxes and city taxes I got 300 euro back on february 28th last week because an employer overpaid pretaxes in 2008 ! They know this and tell you they pay you back two full months after they know it . With low intrest rates that does not matter.
The first property is no longer in direct taxes if it is paid in full ; that is if you have no loan cost
to deduct . I have been estimated at 32 000 BEF in 1980 like and this is yearly indexed and taxed totally seperately . House prices in Belgium have been climbing steadily and only came down little the last two years . Then there are the provincial taxes on water; sewers; waste; the environment; the province; etc
Then there are taxes of solidarity they take off my pension and "contributions" added seperately to social security
Like today social security informed me 50 euro was the solidarity tax to be paid before end of april.
If this is not enough we (have to) pay insurance on cars, houses, furniture, third person damage, hospitalisation ; temporary "personnel"; etc etc and taxes on all those insurances policies
Having a telephone before use costs me like 30 euro a month and 35 euro for an internet connection
and 30 euro for cablefilms. I have like 28 euro for consumers magazines so as to find the best investments lol . Now all these taxes and costs are going to be an inspiration for Socialist America  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 02, 2010, 03:37:16 AM
David Russels calls Tanzanian an obscure gold name  ::)
He does not seem to know Jim Sinclair is Tanzanian and has
the best Blog on the web

One wonders if he knows anything about the other shares he writes about
Unless you say upfront you are a Technician like me . I don't know who or what
Oceania is but I made 50% in 8 weeks in it   ;D

http://seekingalpha.com/article/191211-gold-investors-increasingly-focus-on-tanzanian-royalty-exploration?source=email
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 02, 2010, 06:17:30 AM
So PYW, you are telling me all taxes total near 60% min. for a year? Is any VAT included in that percentage?

Greece is just the beginning. Either EU doesn't know or are unwilling to give a total of debt (losses) involved. Gold is pricing in the obvious.

It's going to take some nerve to sell positions when spot nears the $1150us area.

Separating Sinclair's website from his mining venture keeps it real. From his mining website it looks like he bought property with everything except a real gold mine on it. Maybe he will get lucky.

In a bull run all miners go up, some just faster than others.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 02, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
So PYW, you are telling me all taxes total near 60% min. for a year? Is any VAT included in that percentage?

Greece is just the beginning. Either EU doesn't know or are unwilling to give a total of debt (losses) involved. Gold is pricing in the obvious.

It's going to take some nerve to sell positions when spot nears the $1150us area.

Separating Sinclair's website from his mining venture keeps it real. From his mining website it looks like he bought property with everything except a real gold mine on it. Maybe he will get lucky.

In a bull run all miners go up, some just faster than others.

For anybody earning an engineers salary with 10 years experience direct taxes are like 60% indeed. But the employer has to pay a lot more too
Boss pays 175 in salary and his share of social security ; employee gets 100 in gross salary and 48 in net salary minus city taxes etc
On the net salary you pay VAT and excises like gasoline is like 10$ a gallon ; to go to work by car is not compensated unless large distances are covered every day and belgium is too small for many to benefit. Some employers will have a bus system as an extra legal
gesture
Alcohol is like 25 euro a liter pure 24 euro tax and excises and profit margin

VAT is like 19 % on anything that is luxury silver bars included. VAT on food is 6%
Taxes on businesses are like 35 %

Unrecoverable costs on a house are like 20% therefore nearly no mobility in the
workforce that bought a house.

When my indicators give me a max (around 8 march or 19 march) I will be selling the miners I like least to buy others back in the next cycle bottom
Secondary indicators will be RSI 7 and 11 and bollinger bands and Momentum 39 days
And if applicable volume blow off and price blow off

Tanzanian is doing a lot better then Anglogold, Harmony and Drooy but that has to do with Currencies and cost of electricity
I plan to run down South African Miners and Kinross and Yamana this cycle

In the meantime gold(miner)action is picking up so that the relative high may be better then I feared . Another few days of 3% increase per day should put me in the mood .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 02, 2010, 07:16:35 PM
PYW....Any talk of raising taxes there???

I read where Sinclair is on board now with gold taking a hit then onto new highs. Scary.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2010, 12:54:02 AM
PYW....Any talk of raising taxes there???

I read where Sinclair is on board now with gold taking a hit then onto new highs. Scary.

Belgium has a 130% of gross national product deficit in the mid 80's and we had 15 years of austerity programs that never ended bringing the deficit down to 70 % before all this began .
I do not think Belgium can squeeze much more out of the lemon

Greece agreed today to stop spending and raise taxes for like 5 billion
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f3f19f0c-26ad-11df-bd0c-00144feabdc0.html

The UK announced today a gamble . They are going to issue debt in dollars  ::)
This can be a good idea or a bad idea depending on which currency falls the farthest and the fastest
the dollar or the pound . I would not bet on either outcome and I am a betting man

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2010, 12:59:50 AM
It looks more and more my 107 day cycle is going to give us a march high  ;D
And this time around I was the only one seeing that  ;D
Poor dharma lost the north not being able to see my charts
I believe squat of him talking to Sinclair and others the same month allbeit 20 years ago

On the German forum they are dead quite since they did not believe in the march
date I forwarded . If it comes they will congrat me ; but I have had it writing
without any response

I think from now on I am going to play the little cycles in silence . Too much
trouble to keep the wealthy informed .

Of course this here is my home and I stay here
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 03, 2010, 02:34:31 AM
It looks more and more my 107 day cycle is going to give us a march high  ;D
And this time around I was the only one seeing that  ;D
Poor dharma lost the north not being able to see my charts
I believe squat of him talking to Sinclair and others the same month allbeit 20 years ago

On the German forum they are dead quite since they did not believe in the march
date I forwarded . If it comes they will congrat me ; but I have had it writing
without any response

I think from now on I am going to play the little cycles in silence . Too much
trouble to keep the wealthy informed .

Of course this here is my home and I stay here

We appreciate your insight here! I can't say that I understand much of chart interpretation but some people seem to have a gift for it.  Screw the wealthy--let them eat guillotine steel.  :o

IMO, metals are going to be good as long as they insist on rewarding the weak and stupid at the expense of the strong and smart. As long as they keep on doing it that way the weak will still be in charge of screwing everything up. Nothing will change and nothing will get fixed. We'll just keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different out come. Long term, I can't think of  a  surer bet than betting against zombie  economics. It might take awhile but I believe it's going to pay off big some day when the zombies run out of taxpayers and start eating each other.  I  only wish I spent more of the last ten years on the Internet  hoarding silver.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2010, 03:50:14 AM
It looks more and more my 107 day cycle is going to give us a march high  ;D
And this time around I was the only one seeing that  ;D
Poor dharma lost the north not being able to see my charts
I believe squat of him talking to Sinclair and others the same month allbeit 20 years ago

On the German forum they are dead quite since they did not believe in the march
date I forwarded . If it comes they will congrat me ; but I have had it writing
without any response

I think from now on I am going to play the little cycles in silence . Too much
trouble to keep the wealthy informed .

Of course this here is my home and I stay here

We appreciate your insight here! I can't say that I understand much of chart interpretation but some people seem to have a gift for it.  Screw the wealthy--let them eat guillotine steel.  :o

IMO, metals are going to be good as long as they insist on rewarding the weak and stupid at the expense of the strong and smart. As long as they keep on doing it that way the weak will still be in charge of screwing everything up. Nothing will change and nothing will get fixed. We'll just keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different out come. Long term, I can't think of  a  surer bet than betting against zombie  economics. It might take awhile but I believe it's going to pay off big some day when the zombies run out of taxpayers and start eating each other.  I  only wish I spent more of the last ten years on the Internet  hoarding silver.

I do not think it is too late to buy silver if you can get it . It is even not too late to buy gold allthough I finished my general program a few months ago. Now on ebay germany it is mainly junk being sold
or generic investment coins .
 
My charts are playing the 4 sigma odds ; that means I have a 65% chance of being dead right and 35 %
chance of being wrong in varying degrees.
For some or other reason I am better at picking peaks and selling into peaks . I am a lot lousier about buying at bottoms .

I am trying cautiously to slip slide out of big miners and South Africans and to get into "unknown" little miners . I am not doing explorators yet . But producing or near producing miners .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 03, 2010, 05:47:21 AM
It looks more and more my 107 day cycle is going to give us a march high  ;D
And this time around I was the only one seeing that  ;D
Poor dharma lost the north not being able to see my charts
I believe squat of him talking to Sinclair and others the same month allbeit 20 years ago

On the German forum they are dead quite since they did not believe in the march
date I forwarded . If it comes they will congrat me ; but I have had it writing
without any response

I think from now on I am going to play the little cycles in silence . Too much
trouble to keep the wealthy informed .

Of course this here is my home and I stay here

We appreciate your insight here! I can't say that I understand much of chart interpretation but some people seem to have a gift for it.  Screw the wealthy--let them eat guillotine steel.  :o

IMO, metals are going to be good as long as they insist on rewarding the weak and stupid at the expense of the strong and smart. As long as they keep on doing it that way the weak will still be in charge of screwing everything up. Nothing will change and nothing will get fixed. We'll just keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different out come. Long term, I can't think of  a  surer bet than betting against zombie  economics. It might take awhile but I believe it's going to pay off big some day when the zombies run out of taxpayers and start eating each other.  I  only wish I spent more of the last ten years on the Internet  hoarding silver.

Moved from USA back to Canada. You can accumulate via ebay Canadian Gold and Silver at very good prices. Personally I shop for these items only in Canada. But being in the USA you can get these cheaper in USA. 1976 coins like the $100 1/4 Oz gold coin and the seven sets of four coins, individually or in sets of four and/ or 28. Each silver coin is 92.5% silver. Set of four is about 4.3 Troy oz. Its also Canadian currency.
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_PrefLoc=1&_nkw=1976%20olympic%20coins&_fln=1&_sc=1&_sop=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m283
http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-canadian-100-olympic-gold-coin-still-in-package_W0QQitemZ370343750469QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_Bullion?hash=item563a352b45
http://cgi.ebay.ca/1976-Olympic-Silver-Coin-Set-28-Coins-with-Case_W0QQitemZ180475497048QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a052d8a58
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 03, 2010, 06:52:40 AM
Thanks to you both for the tips. I think I just might start trying pick up silver at shows. I've been done with ebay ever since they pulled their paypal only crap. And I'll probably be done with the Internet once this computer takes it's last breath. I think I've had all that I can stand from  the so called "information Highway."  If it wasn't for the KOTCT room, I would have chuck this computer in the dumpster a year ago.

Maybe I'll time then to learn technical analysis?   8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2010, 07:00:33 AM
Thanks to you both for the tips. I think I just might start trying pick up silver at shows. I've been done with ebay ever since they pulled their paypal only crap. And I'll probably be done with the Internet once this computer takes it's last breath. I think I've had all that I can stand from  the so called "information Highway."  If it wasn't for the KOTCT room, I would have chuck this computer in the dumpster a year ago.

Maybe I'll time then to learn technical analysis?   8)

I would sorely miss you to talk too since you are so erudite ( did'nt check the meaning of the word in my American heritage dictionary of the English languate ; so if it rude I was wrong lol and I mean you know songtexts lol )

Learning technical analysis takes all of a day reading Edwards and Magee ( the bible)

However using statistics may take a lot longer . I participated in giving 5 days refresher courses for people that had seen it all at univ

If it were not for KOTCT  i would not be posting my charts anymore

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 03, 2010, 08:41:59 AM
Thanks to you both for the tips. I think I just might start trying pick up silver at shows. I've been done with ebay ever since they pulled their paypal only crap. And I'll probably be done with the Internet once this computer takes it's last breath. I think I've had all that I can stand from  the so called "information Highway."  If it wasn't for the KOTCT room, I would have chuck this computer in the dumpster a year ago.

Maybe I'll time then to learn technical analysis?   8)

I would sorely miss you to talk too since you are so erudite ( did'nt check the meaning of the word in my American heritage dictionary of the English languate ; so if it rude I was wrong lol and I mean you know songtexts lol )

Learning technical analysis takes all of a day reading Edwards and Magee ( the bible)

However using statistics may take a lot longer . I participated in giving 5 days refresher courses for people that had seen it all at univ

If it were not for KOTCT  i would not be posting my charts anymore


Looking for this 107 day Peak to reset my timing. Thanks PYW.
Found the ChartScript stuff very interesting - will be following how his progresses for a while checking value.
I think we all three.... are old Curmudgeon's who do not suffer fools easily. :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2010, 09:30:31 AM
I used to have 3x107 or 3x102 days alternating in a larger 12 monthly candle cycle on average
So I will be counting days to see if and how much the larger cycle as shortened
Was december an aberation ? According to seven the differences should be harmonics and
allthough 1 is an harmonic of everything it is a poor harmonic 3 or 4 or 6 would have been prime choices for harmonics of 12
So untill further prove I reverted to 12 candles and 107 days cycles

Statistically I am close enough in a march high allready to disregard any figure and to count on by 107 from the high that is coming
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2010, 09:34:31 AM
Thanks to you both for the tips. I think I just might start trying pick up silver at shows. I've been done with ebay ever since they pulled their paypal only crap. And I'll probably be done with the Internet once this computer takes it's last breath. I think I've had all that I can stand from  the so called "information Highway."  If it wasn't for the KOTCT room, I would have chuck this computer in the dumpster a year ago.

Maybe I'll time then to learn technical analysis?   8)

I would sorely miss you to talk too since you are so erudite ( did'nt check the meaning of the word in my American heritage dictionary of the English languate ; so if it rude I was wrong lol and I mean you know songtexts lol )

Learning technical analysis takes all of a day reading Edwards and Magee ( the bible)

However using statistics may take a lot longer . I participated in giving 5 days refresher courses for people that had seen it all at univ

If it were not for KOTCT  i would not be posting my charts anymore


Looking for this 107 day Peak to reset my timing. Thanks PYW.
Found the ChartScript stuff very interesting - will be following how his progresses for a while checking value.
I think we all three.... are old Curmudgeon's who do not suffer fools easily. :D


I found that one of the three scripts I posted is allways  better then the other two and it rotates  allways another script being better . That stuff is just confirmation for me .

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2010, 09:18:20 PM
The greek have started selling their 10 year bonds and thanks to the nearly 5 billion austerity program it seems
to be succeeding

They increased tax on cigarettes,allcohol and VAT
They reduced salaries of functionaries
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 04, 2010, 12:19:30 AM
The greek have started selling their 10 year bonds and thanks to the nearly 5 billion austerity program it seems
to be succeeding

They increased tax on cigarettes,allcohol and VAT
They reduced salaries of functionaries

Greece sounds like they are not far away from a revolution. Maybe a tax on alcohol will speed things up.  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 04, 2010, 01:25:56 AM
Gold on the edge of rolling over this AM.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 01:27:39 AM
The greek have started selling their 10 year bonds and thanks to the nearly 5 billion austerity program it seems
to be succeeding

They increased tax on cigarettes,allcohol and VAT
They reduced salaries of functionaries

Greece sounds like they are not far away from a revolution. Maybe a tax on alcohol will speed things up.  8)

If I remember correctly that would not be the first army colonels take over of the country . Except I think
that is not allowed by the Euro groundrules  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 01:29:01 AM
Gold on the edge of rolling over this AM.

It is just the dollar trying to convince people it is not dead ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 01:49:11 AM
One of Germanies ministery suggested a solution to the Greek problem
Sell Corfu to the German ( tourists)

Greece has 600 islands most are still uninhabited
That would raise money
An island for each German billionaire
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 02:06:24 AM
This mornings paper makes it sound as if Greece has the EU between a rock and a hard place. The PM said he will give France and Germany one more chance to assist his country and if refused, he will turn to the World Bank and take their money. That might reflect badly on the euro, I would think.

In fact most people would like all of them to go to the IMF because they are known for extracting blood in return for money
Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland , Engeland ; there are too many to be helped by Germany and
France alone.

Our newspapers say that the greece population is in shock by the promisses made
Like VAT from 19% to 21% and tobacco tax plus 60% and alcohol tax plus 20% etc
It is going to be a sober revolution at those prices .
It is also reported the communist fraction is blocking officials from going to work ( as if
they work  ::)
All in all I think Greece is good for a few months now with this 10 year loan they are placing
I wonder who is next ; England or Spain
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 02:12:17 AM
This is Bloomberg
Our national press gives a slightly different explanation

Quote
  Resisting IMF Aid

Greek and EU officials have so far resisted IMF aid, with Luxembourg’s Jean-Claude Juncker, who heads the group of euro- area finance ministers, saying there’s no grounds for Greece to turn to the Washington-based lender.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aOoBM4ynB7Ao&pos=4
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 02:13:48 AM
When communists act like socialists
STRIKE untill everybody is broke is their motto I think

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5SyK6.wdqKM&pos=8
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 04, 2010, 03:41:09 AM
The greek have started selling their 10 year bonds and thanks to the nearly 5 billion austerity program it seems
to be succeeding

They increased tax on cigarettes,allcohol and VAT
They reduced salaries of functionaries

Greece sounds like they are not far away from a revolution. Maybe a tax on alcohol will speed things up.  8)

If I remember correctly that would not be the first army colonels take over of the country . Except I think
that is not allowed by the Euro groundrules  ;D


Ha, ha. The Japanese are the Spartans now not the Greeks. I hear they even re-use their bath water to save a few yen. Do these imbecile  politicians really believe Americans and Europeans are going to accept austerity when governments are bailing out these  puking dogs just as fast as they can puke up  hairballs? Bernanke is practically stumbling out in front of AIG holding the puke pan for them.

Oh and this is really priceless.  Bureaucrats still  demand their yearly pay raises for parking in the park.  They have municipal unions now demanding  to look over the books when they are told to forget their raises. In fact they're told if they don't like it there's the door. But no they want to look at the books. Pretty soon they'll be suggesting what can be cut from city budget so they can still get their raises---let the cannibalism begin.

They invented some kind a mutant  craptialist/ socialist zombie. It ain't gonna work.  They'll be feeding off each other before long. Whatcha gonna do then zombie mommy Pelosi?

But it might work to make metal prices higher.  ;D



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 04:15:09 AM
In Holland the government fell over the question to extend participation in Afganistan beyond the agreed limit of end 2010
Both parties lost yesterday in the temp ellections and the party for freedom won the votes they lost . I think freedom translates into no (nonworking) foreigners in the fair cities

The cristendemocrats and the socialists had to scramble to call this a victory losing all those
votes.

On Sinclair's site it is suggested the greek bonds went so well that somebody saved them for the next month or so . Some central bank and not necessarily the European Central Bank
Well they virtually begged the Chinese to help . So maybe the greek island will become
vacationing places for the Comittee members of China
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 08:15:32 AM
Now we get today and tomorrow for a gold consolidation and then
the high centered anywhere around 8 or 19 march
But those dates have not enough separation to find out statistically which of the
two was the correct statistical forecast duh
Even if the high is exactly the 19 th that does not mean 8 was completely wrong
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 04, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
Even if the high is exactly the 19 th that does not mean 8 was completely wrong

You have to pick one or the other, you can't have it both ways plus either one you pick will make you wrong and the result put in your permanent record and you know thick that file is.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 04, 2010, 04:38:06 PM
How can one Greek afford a revolution when being taxed at 21% (value added??)?  If a whole group decides to revolt, the state makes money when revolters buy necessary overthrow materials. By the way are Greeks even allowed to have guns? Here I occasionally cross the border to the south and just before you enter, a big sign put up by the Mexican Tourism Council says "Guns and Ammunition are Illegal in Mexico" (gunpowder in fireworks is only okay though) So defensive/offensive weapons of choice are switch blades. Still, chances are high you get mugged, kidnapped, shot or beheaded as the drug cartels run rampant and influence every part of society there as they jockey for money and power mowing down anyone perceived as a threat or that can be used as an example or gain.

The Federal Reserve is buying Greek bonds to add to their collection of debt as it's a reserve currency's responsibility to mop up and tie up lose ends. Derivative desks issuing swaps on the bonds so when Greece defaults the US taxpayer ends up paying the tab one way or another.   
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 09:17:10 PM
Even if the high is exactly the 19 th that does not mean 8 was completely wrong

You have to pick one or the other, you can't have it both ways plus either one you pick will make you wrong and the result put in your permanent record and you know thick that file is.

I pick 19 march for gold
Even the slow stochs set at 52.3.3 is at 80% on the daily and I figure on sunday the weekly
7.3.3 will be at 80% too
So the slow stochs are no further guidance . The high is close
I switched to my back up RSI 11 and Momentum 39 d

Germanies high court has ruled yesterday that it is unconstitutional to force everybody to keep 6 months of phone records and internet records . They should know how dangerous records are to survival .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 09:24:14 PM
Nobody in Europe is allowed to have unregistered guns
Even shotguns have to be registered and you have to be member of a club
Pistols have to be registered and locked away at the club

This being said a woman journalist found a kalashnikov the real thing
by asking around in brussels for one afternoon . 500 euro
Entrapment by police is the main danger for citizens buying these things
Of course every selfrespecting bungling bankrobber has at least one
The last months nearly all bankrobberies were bungled .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2010, 09:26:39 PM
There is a powerplay going on concerning greece

Trichet does not want them to go to the IMF

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aQXE3b.GPMDU&pos=2

Merkel is seeing the greek minister today and says they do not plan to help him
moneywise ( taxpayers money would kill her next election)

So it is going to be one of those famous compromise solutions nobody understands
I guess
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 05, 2010, 03:58:39 AM
And the beat goes on ........

Quote
Fannie, Freddie Ask Banks to Eat Soured Mortgages (Update1)   


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJcAMaiuifjc&pos=4
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 05, 2010, 04:01:40 AM
UK producer  prices rise by double of what they rose on average the last 10 years
Glorious inflation coming

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/269e011a-283f-11df-9f8f-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 05, 2010, 05:44:47 AM
And the beat goes on ........

Quote
Fannie, Freddie Ask Banks to Eat Soured Mortgages (Update1)   


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJcAMaiuifjc&pos=4

They are playing hot potato with the debt now that the initial banking crisis has past. Also, deeds (or mortgage paper) were sliced and diced at least 20 or 30 times using leverage so it is almost impossible to put the paperwork back together again, a further loss for the banks or GSEs or whoever is holding the paper. This besides what might happen in a further housing price correction in the near future. Already lost 50% why not try for 66%?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 05, 2010, 05:49:01 AM
Norcini at jsmineset.com has some charts of commodities priced in dollars and euros. Bet you can't tell when they started pumping money into the system to halt deflation.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 05, 2010, 06:15:11 AM
 For all the talk of gun control in the states esp. handguns, here in California you can walk into a store to buy a shotgun (any long rifle) and walk out with  one after showing you have a permanent address. It's call the 'castle rule' which is your right to defend your castle (home) along with the right to bear arms. In states like Texas home burglars end up with bullet holes in them all the time. Maybe it makes for a news article but that's about it.

When I visit a brother in the High Sierras near Mammoth we reload shotgun shells then take the slinger and go out and shoot skeet. You talk about beautiful scenery as a backdrop.......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 05, 2010, 08:18:13 AM
They just passed a bill yesterday, here in Indiana, that prohibits confiscation of firearms during an emergency or crisis and it also includes the right to have a firearm in your locked vehicle while its parked at work. Of course the do-gooders are already claiming there will be more employees going postal. Well, the way I see it, if a fellow is going to go postal a trip to the house is just a convenient as getting the gun out of the car. If a man is going to do harm nothing is going to stop him so there is NO further use in penalizing law abiding citizens for criminal activity.
I will agree every MAN and WOMAN on the planet have the right to protect their homes, property and family. Police departments around the world would have much more respect is they were allowed to be policemen when dealing with those who flee instead of dog catchers! If you want to run then expect bullets your way!
Starbucks has announced it will SERVE customers who are wearing their weapons openly and we are already hearing from the scared little city slickers who are claiming they don't know if that man with the gun is going to protect them or kill them? My answer is simple, If you can stand outside the Starbucks ranting to a TV news camera crew it is apparant he wasn't going to kill you? People in the big cities have been scared so long they don't know real help when it finally arrives.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 05, 2010, 02:29:06 PM
You folks out there keep the wheels rolling as there are many who would join your wagon train! I think there are a great number of business establishments and public places who don't realize how much money they lose each year because a man and his family cannot be on there premises with a legally owned weapon. I have passed up many a place due to the NO FIREARMS signs posted. Law abiding citizens will do so but do they really think a criminal, bent on doing harm, will stop when he reads the sign?

I have had a handgun permit for almost 40 years and 30 of them was a personal carry concealed weapon permit. Now it is a lifetime permit here in Indiana. Never had to reach for that gun one time but I always knew it was there. A couple of years ago I read a "Letter to the Editor" in the Indianapois Star thanking those who kept the writer safe. It was not directed to law enforcement. The man was thanking the almost 300.000 Hoosiers who had the right to carry concealed weapons. This number alone, in his mind, stopped more street muggings, restaurant robberies and street crime than anything the police could ever do. It was very rewarding to read something positive about firearms and the role they play in our everyday lives.
I have hunted, target shoot, fish and trapped most of my life. I enjoy plinking with everything from a BB gun to a high powered rifle and a bow and arrow (too old for the bow now!) and I have never been a threat to anyone other than the food I might put on my table and I pay dearly if I still wish to do that. There is no such thing as a free meals unless you are on welfare. The outdoorsman has paid for the bulk of the conservation efforts in this country and continues to do so.My time outdoors has been a huge never ending educational experience and I can guarantee you in the event of a natural disaster I will not be waiting in a local gymnasium or church for the government to save me and my family!!! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 05, 2010, 03:11:04 PM

   
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
Robert A. Heinlein
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 06, 2010, 12:00:46 AM
They accept to change pounds into zimbabwe dollars now  :D

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/columnists/article7046086.ece
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 06, 2010, 09:08:03 AM
So if I weigh 164 pounds what would I be worth? ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 06, 2010, 09:49:21 AM
So if I weigh 164 pounds what would I be worth? ;D

Depends
An official pound is like 0.45 kilogram if I remember correctly
But since the first worldwar we in Belgium use a pound that is 0.5 kilogram
So half a pound is 0.250 kilogram in Belgium
We will buy meat for the sandwiches in half a pound quantities ( 250 grams )

Anyway the right answer is you are priceless  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on March 06, 2010, 09:52:39 AM
TWO SHADOWS.......LIKE A CAR-----YOU WOULD BE WORTH MORE IN PARTS THAN AS A WHOLE............LOL

       YOUR FRIEND--TEMPLAR(http://)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 06, 2010, 02:53:04 PM
Just my luck! I got to fall apart to be worth anything! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 06, 2010, 11:33:42 PM
I looked at the weekly gold stats which start on sunday and it looks
more and more that golds rendez vous with a relative high is for 19 march
( or thereabouts like the vendor of Oliver is chanting )

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 07, 2010, 02:27:54 AM
Quote
"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
–Napoleon Bonaparte, 1815
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 07, 2010, 02:29:30 AM
France says we must help greece or loose the euro
I vote for loosing the euro and go back to good old francs

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aePSFgrlaMiY&pos=1
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 07, 2010, 02:38:01 AM
The greek population is really smart
85% thinks the rich are going to get richer and the poor are going to get poorer
according to a poll
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 07, 2010, 02:42:00 AM
Between 2005 and 2007 austrian internet banks laundered 2 billion mafia money

and I poor individual get declared by my bank if I transfer 10 000 euro from one account
to 10 000 euro of another account with another bank  ???
How the hell can you email a billion a year without being caugth the first month ?
Because everybody getting a commission on that size looks the other way ?

http://www.tijd.be/nieuws/ondernemingen_financien/Oostenrijkse_banken_wassen_miljarden_van_maffia_wit.8889185-433.art
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 07, 2010, 02:58:27 AM
The key to everything is the mere fact all governments and those in power know the average man and woman have very little time to voice their displeasure on whats going on around them. The masses will be upset for a few days and go back to attempting to make a living and make ends meet. Those who DO NOT back off are branded as dissidents, political activists or home grown terrorists and fed to the media as the bad guys. When you have ALL the power and money you can do anything you want especially in a greed driven, corrupt world we all live in. Yes the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and its NOT over yet! They intend to bring the masses to their knees as it will be much easier to institute their one world one government when everyone has nothing left. ;)  
   And they know they can confiscate anything they so desire at a moments notice. If you have guns, ammo, gold, silver, cigarettes, beer or even food, ect...it would be a good time to find a safe place to hide it! Time is growing short! One thing is for certain a bank is NOT a safe place!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 07, 2010, 05:20:41 AM
Coin of the month
500 pieces
Stripdesigner Hergé centenary
Monnaie de Paris 1 oz

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3122&g2_serialNumber=1)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 07, 2010, 06:01:49 AM
So if the mintage is only 500 pieces the price must be astronomical?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 07, 2010, 09:13:21 AM
So if the mintage is only 500 pieces the price must be astronomical?

Monnaie de Paris churns them out at a rate of like 65 coindesigns a year
I got it for 31% over melt
That will be melt in a little over a year  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 07, 2010, 09:55:48 AM
The greek population is really smart
85% thinks the rich are going to get richer and the poor are going to get poorer
according to a poll

Sounds like their "sudden" discovery is a reason to "soak the rich." As if the rich haven't figured that out yet.  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 07, 2010, 10:25:42 AM
They accept to change pounds into zimbabwe dollars now  :D

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/columnists/article7046086.ece

England is repeating it's history. Their Naval doctrine at one time specified that the Royal  Navy be  twice the size of the next two biggest Navies (France and Spain) added together. Now they have the same doctrine with Gordon Brown--twice the half wit of the next two biggest half wits (Tim and Ben) added together.  

Hey the money genius sold England's gold at it's lowest price. Maybe if he starts buying it back, it will signal a  top?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 07, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
Iceland
Once the fifth richest nation ; rejects to pay Engeland and Holland

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a79L24mIpisI&pos=7
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 08, 2010, 01:11:25 AM
8 march ( my first potential gold high)

I sold my trading part in Harmony for 2% whopping gain  ???
This will probably be the last time I trade HMY
I sold because the descending trendline at 7.40 is not far from todays 7.25 euro I got

I have still a full investment part which I want to bring down by 19 march if I can
at 7.40 euro
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 08, 2010, 06:35:46 AM
Ya think a guy would get a little warning with some topping action first like double checking the $1040 area. Hopefully today the 8th is just an alert.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 08, 2010, 08:57:51 AM
Ya think a guy would get a little warning with some topping action first like double checking the $1040 area. Hopefully today the 8th is just an alert.

Yes I hope too it is just a retreat to go up into 19 march
Otherwise is was once again one of those dispicable tops you only see under a
magnifying glass
For this week and the next week I will be using trendlines and fibbos and momentum
and 2sigma channels if we should go farther up .
Otherwise I am stuck going down 20 to 53 days into the next cycle without hardly any cash
apart from emergency reserves
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 08, 2010, 09:24:27 PM
Way I see it

scenario 1 : the high is done 20% chance
scenario 2 ; the high is around 19 march 60% chance
scenario 3 ; the high is one week late giving three sub sub cycles of 39 days ( done)
38 days (done) and 37 forecasted gives a 114 day cycle

There is NO volume in goldminers today in Europe meaning the specialists
are waiting to see how it swings
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 09, 2010, 02:06:57 AM
It would appear that Pt is the only metal not headed south.

It's likely to be a long, cold winter afterall.

Yes ; looks like people think more cars with catalysators are going to be sold
I wonder whether they install that component for chinese cars in china

The winter is allready too long and too cold here
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 09, 2010, 02:33:55 AM
And the academical question is ? Can gold get above 1119.307 Fibonaci and turn the Bollinger Bands and break the downtrend the next half hour
15 minute bar chart attached  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 09, 2010, 03:50:27 AM
The day is saved
We had a breakout  by way of a small head and shoulder formation

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 09, 2010, 07:16:58 AM
Sold some NG for profit.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 09, 2010, 08:56:19 AM
Sold some NG for profit.

I think that was a good move
Yes I saw the blue for NG on my puter screen ( it is blue and red )
The only blue I own is Oceana and I am keeping that one

Tomorrow is anudder day
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 09, 2010, 09:17:16 PM
And the beat goes on ...........

Italians say problem of Greece is over and nobody will follow next

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aOkYIczFiqp4&pos=2
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 09, 2010, 09:19:39 PM
Notwithstanding a large loss
bonusses for outperforming are paid  ::) ??? ::)

Quote
The outperformance will lead to a £15m bonus payment to staff, a figure that includes £1.5m in respect of the supertax on bank bonuses.

They only lost 139 million
Hurah more bonusses next year  and the year after etc

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fe1e390e-2c16-11df-9187-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 09, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
Ha ha the NY Times (all the news that's fit to shill) says the economy looks "surprisingly normal."

Must be because there's no "surprisingly surprising"  cartoon out yet of  Dan Rather selling watermelons  in uptown  instead of apples or pencils.  ;D

*******************************************************
"The New York Times is right; it is an economy that looks surprisingly normal…
Zombies can look surprisingly normal too. If you clean them up."
Bill Bonner
********************************************************
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 12:19:01 AM
Ha ha the NY Times (all the news that's fit to shill) says the economy looks "surprisingly normal."

Must be because there's no "surprisingly surprising"  cartoon out yet of  Dan Rather selling watermelons  in uptown  instead of apples or pencils.  ;D

*******************************************************
"The New York Times is right; it is an economy that looks surprisingly normal…
Zombies can look surprisingly normal too. If you clean them up."
Bill Bonner
********************************************************


The most surprisingly normal people are serial killer psychopath of the organised kind
with IQ's of 160 plus
They have also very pleasant personalities when not on the job :)

There is so little news that it looks like somebody is cleaning up the shop before printing time
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 10, 2010, 01:48:08 AM
Ha ha the NY Times (all the news that's fit to shill) says the economy looks "surprisingly normal."

Must be because there's no "surprisingly surprising"  cartoon out yet of  Dan Rather selling watermelons  in uptown  instead of apples or pencils.  ;D

*******************************************************
"The New York Times is right; it is an economy that looks surprisingly normal…
Zombies can look surprisingly normal too. If you clean them up."
Bill Bonner
********************************************************


The most surprisingly normal people are serial killer psychopath of the organised kind
with IQ's of 160 plus
They have also very pleasant personalities when not on the job :)

There is so little news that it looks like somebody is cleaning up the shop before printing time

Oh, they were cleaning that up while Rather was still talking. He got as far as "He couldn't sell watermelons if a state trooper---" and then Chris Matthews interrupted him.  Unfortunately for the "fair and balanced"  network,  Limbaugh has the audio and is happy to play it and play it and play it

Does anyone remember the group Renaissance? A Trip to the Fair sounds like a good song for Pelosi.

I took a trip down to look at the fair
When I arrived I found nobody there
It seemed I was all alone
Must be that they've all gone home

[Chorus:]
A trip to the fair but nobody was there
A trip to the fair but nobody was there

Voices of yesterday make not a sound
Even the roundabout stopped going round
I wonder just what it means
Is everything how it seems?

[Chorus]

A creak as the dodgems came onto the scene
Wheels began turning I started to scream
A carousel swung around
My head spun and hit the ground

[Chorus]

I close my eyes to disguise the fear from inside
Trembling within my own mind I find no place to hide
Stars of tomorrow shine through the grey mist that has gone
I wish that this trip to the fair had never begun

Suddenly thousands of faces I see
Everyone seemed to be staring at me
Clowns laughed in the penny arcade
What was this game my mind played?

I took a trip down to look at the fair
When I arrived I found nobody there
It seemed I was all alone
Must be that they've all gone home

A trip to the fair but nobody was there, but nobody was there
A trip to the fair but nobody was there, but nobody was there

Renaissance-A Trip to the Fair
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 04:03:49 AM
Stormwarning

The big boys are currently running all the stops on gold and collecting all the
smaltimers money again
Can they push it below 1110 ?   
Whatever ; anybody on margin is going to be in deep shit
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 10, 2010, 04:46:25 AM
Stormwarning

The big boys are currently running all the stops on gold and collecting all the
smaltimers money again
Can they push it below 1110 ?  
Whatever ; anybody on margin is going to be in deep shit

How do you know it's not  a secret bear trap being laid by the investment Ninja  Gordon Brown?  ;D

Over on this side of the pond,  I think Pelosi took  a retard  enhancement pill yesterday when she said we need to pass Obama care so we can find out what's in the bill.

Silver is down 24cents. I suspect (wild guess actually) that it's time for Miss Silver to go into her missy pissy depressive mood for awhile. I'm hoping to buy silver next month at some coin shows.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 10, 2010, 05:12:31 AM
 *****************************************************
 By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER, AP Economics Writer Christopher S. Rugaber, Ap Economics Writer   – 12 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Unemployment rose in 30 states in January, the Labor Department said Wednesday, evidence that jobs remain scarce in most regions of the country.

The data is somewhat better than December, when 43 states reported higher unemployment rates, but worse than November, when rates fell in most states.
********************************************************
Ho Boy! How SURPRISINGLY AMAZING  we have 5.9% GDP
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 09:29:22 AM
Stormwarning

The big boys are currently running all the stops on gold and collecting all the
smaltimers money again
Can they push it below 1110 ?  
Whatever ; anybody on margin is going to be in deep shit

How do you know it's not  a secret bear trap being laid by the investment Ninja  Gordon Brown?  ;D

Over on this side of the pond,  I think Pelosi took  a retard  enhancement pill yesterday when she said we need to pass Obama care so we can find out what's in the bill.

Silver is down 24cents. I suspect (wild guess actually) that it's time for Miss Silver to go into her missy pissy depressive mood for awhile. I'm hoping to buy silver next month at some coin shows.  

I think the gold low for the year will be 20 to 50 calender days from today
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 09:31:57 AM
*****************************************************
 By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER, AP Economics Writer Christopher S. Rugaber, Ap Economics Writer   – 12 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Unemployment rose in 30 states in January, the Labor Department said Wednesday, evidence that jobs remain scarce in most regions of the country.

The data is somewhat better than December, when 43 states reported higher unemployment rates, but worse than November, when rates fell in most states.
********************************************************
Ho Boy! How SURPRISINGLY AMAZING  we have 5.9% GDP

That GDP if true is because you got more then 6% inflation

They just announced on TV that Belgian food inflation is the largest of the union
Well at this time of the year we import alot of veggies from the south and we
like to get good food
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 10, 2010, 12:39:24 PM
Who would ever think the TRUTH could bring some much laughter! ;D

Only the government could come up with a fine of $1,000 for going to a doctor or emergency room if you don't have insurance? If you can't afford insurance who is going to pay the $1,000 fine? Guess it will fall on the welfare system and taxpayers? ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 08:42:32 PM
Who would ever think the TRUTH could bring some much laughter! ;D

Only the government could come up with a fine of $1,000 for going to a doctor or emergency room if you don't have insurance? If you can't afford insurance who is going to pay the $1,000 fine? Guess it will fall on the welfare system and taxpayers? ;)

Is that 1000$ per visit ? If you have an accident that requires going back
six times that starts to add up
I allways had to smile when Monsanto provided me with an official lettre
I had to have in my wallet at all times in america ; saying that they would
pay for any medical attention I required and no questions asked
Lucky me ; I never needed attention of a doctor in america .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 08:51:34 PM
A yull brynner film
The ugly american

Quote
The Ugly American is a novel that was published in 1958, and was later made into a movie starring Marlon Brando. It tells the story how America was losing the hearts and minds of the people in Asia after its heroic performance in the Second World War by the predatory business practices and exploitation of US multinationals. The book was a bit of a scandal, coming on the heels of Nixon's visit to South America where he was spat upon by angry mobs.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S5cj-YTHMtI/AAAAAAAAMFA/az4oQaD57uE/s400/uglylloyd.JPG)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
Quote
Record monthly deficit for U.S.: $221 billion
By Annalyn Censky, staff reporterMarch 10, 2010: 4:19 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — The United States dropped a record $220.9 billion further into the red in February, the Treasury Department reported Wednesday.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/10/news/economy/federal_deficit/index.htm?hpt=T2
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 10, 2010, 10:18:10 PM
Who would ever think the TRUTH could bring some much laughter! ;D

Only the government could come up with a fine of $1,000 for going to a doctor or emergency room if you don't have insurance? If you can't afford insurance who is going to pay the $1,000 fine? Guess it will fall on the welfare system and taxpayers? ;)

Is that 1000$ per visit ? If you have an accident that requires going back
six times that starts to add up
I allways had to smile when Monsanto provided me with an official lettre
I had to have in my wallet at all times in america ; saying that they would
pay for any medical attention I required and no questions asked
Lucky me ; I never needed attention of a doctor in america .

I hear there are American doctors talking about setting up clinics in Costa Rica if Obama care passes. May I suggest that the first clinic be christened the John Galt clinic?  ;D

IMO, TARpit and Obama care, either one or both are the Fourth Turning catalyst. It just gets worse from here until the crisis stage which may be ten years off. The United States has had three Fourth Turnings which end in a crisis that eventually structurally changes society. The three crisis' were: American Revolutionary war, the U.S Civil War and the Great Depression/WWll.  Fourth Turnings are not "bumps" in the shovel ready road.

Nothing has been fixed. The exact opposite has happened. Had they let these AIG and Citi scumbags collapse the weak would be gone and the strong banks and insurance companies  would have been made stronger by buying up their assets at market prices. But if they had done it right it would not only be the first thing they did right, it would have prevented the history of the Fourth Turning from happening. You see politicians do serve a purpose; they can even screw it all up at the right time.  

The consumption economy is ending.  Boomers are  broke, out of credit, out of luck, and too old to rumble with cops in their hippy fantasies of "come the revolution."   And if they are still in stocks "for the long haul" they better go do some more jogging and pollute my air with bo because they gonna have some heaving hauling to do with the grand super cycle flipping.   If they start paying down credit and start saving there is no consumption economy. There is no economy anyway without massive credit expansion and debt slaves because there has been no *real gain* in aggregate wages since 1975. Note to Ben and Tim *real gain*=nominal gain minus the *real* inflation rate. Not your crayola core index.
 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 10, 2010, 11:44:02 PM
I remember reading a book ; like 20 years ago about one of those
economic visionaries . At the time he seemed feable brained .
He said the next step in the economy will be a barter economy again
because that is not taxeble ; I will give you six pounds of porc if
you come and help my wife with springcleaning etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 11, 2010, 03:04:34 AM
He said the next step in the economy will be a barter economy again
because that is not taxeble ; I will give you six pounds of porc if
you come and help my wife with springcleaning etc
This is actually happening right now throughout this part of the country, and has been one of the better parts of living in these rural areas of this country. Around here we have bartered for almost everything since I can remember doing business. Yes, the women here still sew on their mashines to make clothing, and most of the building materials are locally manufactured with small saw-mills etc. Need some beef for dinner? Well, build that fence I been wanting and I'll drop off a hind quarter this afternoon.  Oh yah! It' all grass fed, without any of the chemicals you find in most produce.  And the town, county, state or federal government didn't make a dime off of this transaction........now that is the way it is done here abouts.                 And people say we are backwards! Ha!

It is like Paris Fashion
If you keep your clothes for 25 years they are the latest vogue again

We have probably 20% of our "economy" that is done outside working hours
without any tax or vat but still paid in money because most modern people do not
know with what to barter for the handyman
My handyman wants 200 euro a day and he hardly comes for less then a days work ???

These guys are greedy too . All one way street . He had worked a week at my place
and he saw me using an airgun to make a painting . I got a 2.5 bar buffered and dewatered compressor and three airguns . He asked me I could paint a pic on a car with those instruments . Now the crudest I have is a 0.7 mm needle and would paint on a car .
He asked me if I could/would paint a pic on his car ( like out of gratitude he accepted my
money for the work he did ) I told him I did not feel like painting a car for the first time in my life and that there are people that do just that for 750 euro and "bake" the car afterwards . Of course he never got the pic on his car . Cheap multimillionaire dipshit that he is . One day his daughter is going to inherit a lot of houses .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 11, 2010, 05:41:25 AM
The problem is debt. So much debt that taxes and fees will not be able to cover it all. The debt comes from compounding interest on a factional reserve basis, interest earned on an ever increasing money supply can run to infinity.The accumulating debt just to payoff the future interest can run to infinity.  Business models are based on this banking system, leverage to infinity which is unsustainable. A Ponzi scheme. All in the name of growth. 1% - 2% growth where you work then go home to the wife and kids everyday is not considered progress. It should be instead of forget everything and make as much as you can.

A new currency system where the government issues interest free currency and loans is in order but the current bankers won't allow it as it would end their rein of terror and reduce them to being glorified accountants, the way it should be.

Local news here highlighted a guy working out of his garage painting designs, pictures, whatever you wanted on shoes like basketball shoes for a mural. Took him anywhere from a day to a week to to complete a project. His work is unique and in demand as the word spreads or walks to the rich and famous or the not so rich and famous. Needless to say, quite the artist. (Government will eventually squash him like a bug)

Took some profits on NG to early it looks like.......good thing I hold core positions.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 11, 2010, 08:47:02 AM
I made this noon this chart
Given that my window of oppurtunity for a temp high closes after end of next week
we still have a chance of making it to 1160 like in this cycle
( unless the high is in )
The chart looks hopefull ( and I only sold my trading position of HMY sofar ; so I got too
much sorting out still to do )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 11, 2010, 03:47:07 PM
I made this noon this chart
Given that my window of oppurtunity for a temp high closes after end of next week
we still have a chance of making it to 1160 like in this cycle
( unless the high is in )
The chart looks hopefull ( and I only sold my trading position of HMY sofar ; so I got too
much sorting out still to do )

That slow stoc. was predicatively correct as spot is up this evening.

I took some profit money and bought this really cool item I had my eye on for awhile now.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 11, 2010, 04:12:11 PM
I'm still looking at $1150 as a ceiling near term. An over shoot maybe. Hope it doesn't run up and away because now I have some cash for lows.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 11, 2010, 05:52:59 PM
PYW What do you think about this coin?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1910-2-1-2-Gold-Indian-Extra-FIne-L-K-at-Our-Gold_W0QQitemZ370348258127QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item563a79f34f
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 11, 2010, 11:41:34 PM
I remember reading a book ; like 20 years ago about one of those
economic visionaries . At the time he seemed feable brained .
He said the next step in the economy will be a barter economy again
because that is not taxeble ; I will give you six pounds of porc if
you come and help my wife with springcleaning etc

Doug Casey had a chapter in Strategic Investing on the "Alternative Economy."    Seems like every time we had a recession the  stories came out  about how people coped  with it through barter.   But there's a  "trifling detail"  they never mention: Time becomes increasingly irrelevant when people are unemployed and collecting unemployment insurance.   What's the big hurry now when you don't have a 100k  job to rush to? What's the hurry to go flip burgers and come off of the unemployment roles?  Unemployment=more time on your hands=marginal decline in utility of time= lower opportunity cost of wheeling and dealing in barter. The Nanny state taking care of everyone who's unemployed= People deploying their time like capital, "in their best interests."  

Since this is a depression not a recession, since most of these jobs are not coming back, since the Nanny State wants to do more nannying than ever, since the  Austrian School rules, the Nanny State may be sowing the seeds of their own demise with all their Nannying.  

Does this excerpt below have familiar ring to it:
"We believe  that as the modern nation-state decomposes, latter-day barbarians will increasingly come to exercise power behind the scenes.  Groups like the Russian mafiya, which picks the bones of the former Soviet Union, other ethnic criminal gangs, nomenklaturas, drug lords , and renegade covert agencies will be laws unto themselves.They already are." -- The Sovereign Individual  James Dale Davidson & Lord William Rees-Mogg  1997
And that's only page 18. There's still 358 more pages.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 12:24:25 AM
PYW What do you think about this coin?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1910-2-1-2-Gold-Indian-Extra-FIne-L-K-at-Our-Gold_W0QQitemZ370348258127QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item563a79f34f

The grade he uses does not exist but implies EF or XF ( Extremely Fine)
In fact I think it is a VF ( very fine) that is a whole category lower then he implies
It would be worth 156 dollars today in Brussels if I am right in VF
But I prefer MS over circulated coins that make up 90% of the coins
still in existence. They overplay the historical nature to make sentimental people pay
much to much
As an investor coin it is "worthless" and you would be better of with a modern day
eagle or krugerrand equivalent as investment

August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 12:49:22 AM
I remember reading a book ; like 20 years ago about one of those
economic visionaries . At the time he seemed feable brained .
He said the next step in the economy will be a barter economy again
because that is not taxeble ; I will give you six pounds of porc if
you come and help my wife with springcleaning etc

Doug Casey had a chapter in Strategic Investing on the "Alternative Economy."    Seems like every time we had a recession the  stories came out  about how people coped  with it through barter.   But there's a  "trifling detail"  they never mention: Time becomes increasingly irrelevant when people are unemployed and collecting unemployment insurance.   What's the big hurry now when you don't have a 100k  job to rush to? What's the hurry to go flip burgers and come off of the unemployment roles?  Unemployment=more time on your hands=marginal decline in utility of time= lower opportunity cost of wheeling and dealing in barter. The Nanny state taking care of everyone who's unemployed= People deploying their time like capital, "in their best interests."  

Since this is a depression not a recession, since most of these jobs are not coming back, since the Nanny State wants to do more nannying than ever, since the  Austrian School rules, the Nanny State may be sowing the seeds of their own demise with all their Nannying.  

Does this excerpt below have familiar ring to it:
"We believe  that as the modern nation-state decomposes, latter-day barbarians will increasingly come to exercise power behind the scenes.  Groups like the Russian mafiya, which picks the bones of the former Soviet Union, other ethnic criminal gangs, nomenklaturas, drug lords , and renegade covert agencies will be laws unto themselves.They already are." -- The Sovereign Individual  James Dale Davidson & Lord William Rees-Mogg  1997
And that's only page 18. There's still 358 more pages.  

Yes I was jobless for 7 years collecting 37 euro per day for infinity since I worked more then 25 years paying all social maximum taxes all my life . Which would never ever result in a fair pension . I paid like twice as much as needed to get the maximum pension .
And I paid like 36 000 $ taxes the first time I was fired (from Monsanto bless their soul
because with the balance I closed out the mortgage on my house )

So I got a second job and after 4 years when I was sick I was fired at Christmas and went to court to have that employer condemned for unfairly sacking me . He paid like 50 000 euro plus his lawyer and court costs .

So I got inscribed in a temp office and worked at 220 euro per day netto plus meals plus travelling cost plus all expenses whenever anyone was willing to pay that tarif . My wife cut back expenditures 50% but in return I was home most of the time . I had no insentive whatsoever to go and work for taxes and be sick of exhaustion 15% of the time and at my age work for 70% of my last salary . So I stayed a temp till retirement

I think between going broke in a private enterprise (tax deductable)  and being jobless for 7 years I recuperated some of the excessive taxes I paid
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 12:55:06 AM
Surprise Surprise
The FED caught in illigal practices

NY Fed Under Geithner Implicated in Lehman Accounting Fraud

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S5nRuxZqBCI/AAAAAAAAMHo/QyeUIRMh0lc/s320/saint-obama%5B1%5D.bmp)

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/03/ny-fed-under-geithner-implicated-in-lehman-accounting-fraud.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 01:01:54 AM
The goat is creazy
He thinks we care whatever he says
Why doesn't he go and preach to the Chinamen ?

Quote
Geithner warns EU on hedge fund regulation plan

LONDON (AFP) – – US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has warned the European Commission its plans to regulate hedge funds and private equity groups could spark a transatlantic row, a paper reported Thursday.

Anyway ; every time I see his face I have to resist puking

(http://d.yimg.com/hb/xp/afp/20100311/15/1204414765-geithner-warns-eu-on-hedge-fund-regulation-plan.jpg?x=213&y=174&sig=dUt1K5NSwfAlh.xhLlWt.w--)

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100311/tts-us-eu-finance-economy-regulate-972e412.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 12, 2010, 01:44:08 AM
The goat is creazy
He thinks we care whatever he says
Why doesn't he go and preach to the Chinamen ?

Quote
Geithner warns EU on hedge fund regulation plan

LONDON (AFP) – – US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has warned the European Commission its plans to regulate hedge funds and private equity groups could spark a transatlantic row, a paper reported Thursday.

Anyway ; every time I see his face I have to resist puking

(http://d.yimg.com/hb/xp/afp/20100311/15/1204414765-geithner-warns-eu-on-hedge-fund-regulation-plan.jpg?x=213&y=174&sig=dUt1K5NSwfAlh.xhLlWt.w--)

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100311/tts-us-eu-finance-economy-regulate-972e412.html

Yeah, here we go MOMMY STATE TO THE RESCUE.

"Proposed new rules might damage US hedge funds, private equity groups and banks by curbing their ability to do business with Europe, Geithner argued in the one-page letter sent on March 1."

Like it's the EU's problem that they won't be able to dump their land fill in Europe?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 01:53:59 AM
He is just being prodded because they want us to be a second iceland
But guess ; the rumour is that the limeys are going to go belly up now that
Greece is reprieved
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 12, 2010, 02:09:12 AM
I heard that there is  500 trillion in derivatives, hedge funds and other forms of crapulas "products" spread all over the world. There is no place to dump anything. If they mark their junk to market they can unload it in Ethiopia for a barrel of donkey--doo. Unless the  Ethiopians don't like it. Maybe their  donkey-doo chips might smell better burning in the fire place.  The Imperial Leprechaun should just go back to baking Twinkies.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 02:18:31 AM
I heard that there is  500 trillion in derivatives, hedge funds and other forms of crapulas "products" spread all over the world. There is no place to dump anything. If they mark their junk to market they can unload it in Ethiopia for a barrel of donkey--doo.  The Ethiopians might not even go for that either. The donkey-doo chips might smell better burning in the fire place than the crap from Tim's goold ole boys. The Imperial Leprechaun should just go back to baking Twinkies. 

The scary part is that they are still producing new derivatives to justify their bonusses
I fear those that say it will be 2020 before it gets any better may be right
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 12, 2010, 02:21:24 AM
He is just being prodded because they want us to be a second iceland
But guess ; the rumour is that the limeys are going to go belly up now that
Greece is reprieved

Maybe the Chinese will set up their own version of Hong Kong in Scotland. Wouldn't that be an interesting twist on history?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 12, 2010, 02:33:28 AM
He is just being prodded because they want us to be a second iceland
But guess ; the rumour is that the limeys are going to go belly up now that
Greece is reprieved

Who does he think he's going to fool with this stuff? He can't even fool freshman college students in China. I suppose he could fool Gorden Brown if he pretended to be Mr. Ed the talking horse, but I don't think England is in the EU?  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 03:02:30 AM
He is just being prodded because they want us to be a second iceland
But guess ; the rumour is that the limeys are going to go belly up now that
Greece is reprieved

Who does he think he's going to fool with this stuff? He can't even fool freshman college students in China. I suppose he could fool Gorden Brown if he pretended to be Mr. Ed the talking horse, but I don't think England is in the EU?  

They are in the European Union ( the old EEC; no customs, no excise, no fronteer,
no entry formalities )  but not in the monetary Euro union because I think the british people voted against it . Anyways the pound non sterling
has been dropping like a brick versus the euro and I am glad their splendid island mentality kept them out
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 03:28:06 AM
I think between going broke in a private enterprise (tax deductable)  and being jobless for 7 years I recuperated some of the excessive taxes I paid
Taxes maybe, but what about that seven years of your life? How do you ever recover that time, and what is it worth?

Well , after being fired the first time I spend a summer in the garden with a bottle next to me and found work after 6 months that paid netto more the the one I was fired from and they paid 27 months salary to leave immidiately ( so I gained 21 month which was taxed at 52% ) . It hurt to be discarded after 23 years like an old rag and not replaced
but I was independant moneywise for the first time in 15 years with the house paid for.

The second time I was fired hurt even more because I was 53 and sick with stomach ulcers and I was illigaly fired because I was sick at chrismas time to take the write off in the fiscal year. But I got 9 months salary and then unemployment and I had the pleasure
of seeing my ex company loose in court after a three year legal procedure : which also made them pay 35 000 $ in extra legal pension .

Again 6 months of winter drinking this time and when I went jobhunting I found out that either I dropped 35% of my last salary or worked 60 hours a week ( which I no longer could because of my health )

So surprisingly ; once I swallowed my pride of two university degrees in 8 years of univ and several other accreditations and when my wife killed all extra costs ; I really liked the life to work only for my survival and take the rest as pre pension.As a temp working for a
temp office I could discretionary refuse what I did not like . For instance I refused to go to Gabon Africa to inspect an electricity plant and I refused to tour France for 3 weeks to inspect electricity works . And I refused to go to a one week training in New York on CO2
problems (as if we are too stupid to get that learning in Europe and it would be very tiring knowing companies ideas about training being a 16 hour a day to justify the cost of the training : and I would not be paid a salary but only expenses )

In other words on average I worked two days a week for 7 years without losing money
and getting the best lunches money can buy as a quality/environmental auditor.
On balance forgetting my pride those seven years where better then all the others were I worked got sick took a vacation of 15 days etc

The only time I really consider lost is when at 26 after getting out of Univ I had to do
12 months of army duty at half a dollar a day being abused by stupid low IQ lifers
with more stripes then I or stars . The army asked me three times and they could not understand I refused to be an officer ( 15 months ) and that I choose to be a first seargent ( 12 months)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 12, 2010, 08:08:15 AM
One thing nice about being older is the mere fact one can look back and really know where he/she was lucky or unlucky and it seems many of the good times weren't quite as good as we thought at the time. The truly good things in life don't always come with big money or fancy jobs. Takes a while but sooner or later we all see things in a different light! Of course there are still times when I feel someone stole my bulb!!! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 12, 2010, 08:48:14 AM
The Dutch have an interesting take on healthcare.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62A5A120100311
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 09:16:28 AM
The Dutch have an interesting take on healthcare.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62A5A120100311

You have to be Dutch to expect it to be included in the base price paid by the government
social security. This is clearly a case were supplemental insurance is needed for supplemental services . I wonder if BO thought of that in his plan .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 12, 2010, 03:37:55 PM
The Dutch have an interesting take on healthcare.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62A5A120100311

You have to be Dutch to expect it to be included in the base price paid by the government
social security. This is clearly a case were supplemental insurance is needed for supplemental services . I wonder if BO thought of that in his plan .

Yes, both the senate, congress and all senior civil servants will have excellent health care for no cost compared to basicly nothing for everyone else- unless you are very rich.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 12, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
That coin went for over $210.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 11:30:18 PM
That coin went for over $210.

That is because NOBODY knows how to grade incuse coins . The coin is way overgraded and most "idiots" believe the grade given by an ebayer without complaints or high volume
Most of us here left a coinforum where I once was the only one correct in grading an incuse coin . The coin had been PCGS or Anacs or whatever graded and I graded exactly the same as the coffin makers.
Seven of Eleven is a coindealer and on top of that he was a Photoshopper earning money by
improving photos . It toke me 4 years but now I am fairly sure about anything from EF up
and that coin was NOT EF not even close .
The price I quoted is the honest price a buyer who can grade will pay

In fact they paid the exact price of AU almost uncirculated according to todays vendors rates in Belgium

http://www.munters.be/servlet/javaparser?pgm=lst_or_new&lg=nl
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 11:37:07 PM
The Dutch have an interesting take on healthcare.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62A5A120100311

You have to be Dutch to expect it to be included in the base price paid by the government
social security. This is clearly a case were supplemental insurance is needed for supplemental services . I wonder if BO thought of that in his plan .

Yes, both the senate, congress and all senior civil servants will have excellent health care for no cost compared to basicly nothing for everyone else- unless you are very rich.

Ah but in our social paradise my wife gets a real doctor to come and give her paininjections at home at 11.45 am ever day
This service paid by the state pays for 25% of the second house he bought
Since both her buttocks are stonehard because of injections it is now in the inner thigh
where most nurces do not dare to inject . It is very painfull for a few hours of painrelief
My wife got fibromyalgie which is not a recognised desease otherwise she would get
infirmaty assistance and payment
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 12, 2010, 11:39:08 PM
An overview of the economy borrowed from the stool

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2010/0310.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2010, 12:27:44 AM
Silever and gold eagles

http://www.zealllc.com/2010/mintcoin2.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2010, 12:41:41 AM
It seems that statistically the cycle keeps lengthening
So there is still hope for a relative HUI high next week

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2010, 02:57:42 AM
It seems that statistically the cycle keeps lengthening
So there is still hope for a relative HUI high next week
It's just  that it's taking longer for the big boys to suck all the blood out of  the small fry, and that 1,100 barrior sure looked shakey this week end when it just cleard  the hurdle to close.  I'm just waiting for the bottom to drop out of the market and then Katie bar the door!
Gold will go down into april and that should be the gold low for the year
Miners is another proposition since everybody expects the Russel or S&P or whatever to drop
But last week miners were doing better then gold relatively so maybe after 10 years miracals will happen and miners will not go down for long with the other shares
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 13, 2010, 07:18:39 AM
You could say that coin was overvalued but that was the current market going rate. To pay over melt or metal content either it's collectible or scarce as in not very many gold coins available.

I know someone with your wife's condition who has had all her finger joints replaced, is in constant/chronic pain, takes a multitude of pills to have maybe 2 hours a day lucid activity, trying to survive all the side effects of the medicines and the State and Federal governments pay most of the her bills (taxpayers). This has been going on for at least twenty years. Hopefully your wife finds escape and distraction in some form during her day.



 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2010, 08:54:41 AM
You could say that coin was overvalued but that was the current market going rate. To pay over melt or metal content either it's collectible or scarce as in not very many gold coins available.

I know someone with your wife's condition who has had all her finger joints replaced, is in constant/chronic pain, takes a multitude of pills to have maybe 2 hours a day lucid activity, trying to survive all the side effects of the medicines and the State and Federal governments pay most of the her bills (taxpayers). This has been going on for at least twenty years. Hopefully your wife finds escape and distraction in some form during her day.
 

I think there is like two million americans that got the disease
Up to 5 years ago they said it was all in the brain and then finally the
psychiatrests threw in the towel and the analysts won
It is a vicious enzyme cycle problem and nobody knows how to break the cycle

As a past taxpayer who was milked of like 40 000 $ a year in direct taxes I could not
care less what the present taxpayers have to pay . I was leached dry and now unfortunately my wife is costing them like 900 $ a month plus medicine pills etc

They will have to resort to Logans run ( where they have everybody die at age 30) or
like Soylent Green where they make cookies out of them  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2010, 09:17:14 AM
Quote
You could say that coin was overvalued but that was the current market going rate. To pay over melt or metal content either it's collectible or scarce as in not very many gold coins available.
 

That is not stricktly true that was a VF coin and overpriced in that condition of wear
Also you cannot talk about the current market because two ebay bidders bid too
high a price on one coin.
Coins of that kind are extremely dependent on the quality or grade of the coin. On ebay that means the reputation of the vendor and 99% overgrade severely . The price is also depending on the day and hour the auction ends .In other words most ebay buyers don't
know how to grade a coin that is not in a PCGS or any other graders box. And bidders
wars are contagious . I know ; cause I had to refrain several times to show them I could
pay more and I did not

I have  a few 5 dollar coins of the late 1800's early 1900's and I paid 50% over melt about
6 years ago . 50% over melt was a nice price for an MS coin at the time

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 13, 2010, 02:05:39 PM
An overview of the economy borrowed from the stool

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2010/0310.html

"Last week, USFed Chairman Bernanke cast aside Mark-to-Market once again, so that heavy commercial loan losses could be ignored."

I guess the worlds "free market"  are subject to the enquiring mind of Ben (pick a shell, any shell) Bernanke.

Have you heard the song Never Forget You? It's a pretty catchy tune by a group called the Noisettes. It's catchy because it has a 60's style to it--at least the way I remember the songs from 60's.  But it's really popular here in Florida.  Seems like it's on a continuous loop in the Publix I go to. Peoples' fascination with nostalgia has cropped up before, particularly in the crack head hallucinations of 5th waves.   Between  Bernanke, Geithner and Gorden Brown we might see Buddy Holly spring back from dead pretty soon. Or better yet a remake of White Rabbit.  :o

Hey check this out!

"...I’ve borrowed your silver boots
Now if you just let me
give them back to you.."

Never Forget You---Noisettes

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 13, 2010, 02:37:53 PM
Silever and gold eagles

http://www.zealllc.com/2010/mintcoin2.htm

Back in the mid 80's I was giving my nephew ASE's for Christmas and his birthdays until I heard he was trading them for baseball cards.  Ha, ha, what are those baseball cards worth now?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2010, 11:42:13 PM
Silever and gold eagles

http://www.zealllc.com/2010/mintcoin2.htm

Back in the mid 80's I was giving my nephew ASE's for Christmas and his birthdays until I heard he was trading them for baseball cards.  Ha, ha, what are those baseball cards worth now?

Don't keep me guessing ; tell me  :)
Anywhere from zero to 100$ I would guess
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2010, 11:50:45 PM
Oh my oh my Ernst and Young guilty
No way ;  incompetent yes ;  guilty no unless negligence is guilty

I once did a due dilligence audit with someone of Ernst and Young in Paris
I was the inside shadow witness to bear testimony to the reality of any findings
The guy kept jabbering about his child that was born like the week before
He did not see anything or find anything
He kept me waiting for hours and insisted on seperate taxis
Afterwards they had the nerve to demand my internal counter report
( because theirs was probably underfunded with hardly any facts )
My lawyer had a good laugh and said company privaliged info and in the safe until
a judge opened the safe which was never opened .
I am sure the client got a fancifull and expensive report  ;D

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2e412d50-2d6e-11df-a262-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 14, 2010, 12:02:32 AM
Silever and gold eagles

http://www.zealllc.com/2010/mintcoin2.htm

Back in the mid 80's I was giving my nephew ASE's for Christmas and his birthdays until I heard he was trading them for baseball cards.  Ha, ha, what are those baseball cards worth now?

Don't keep me guessing ; tell me  :)
Anywhere from zero to 100$ I would guess

I don't know. I think he traded the baseball cards for 1 1/2 inch  medieval soldiers.  Maybe he should be selling derivatives or default swaps for the Sachbags?   :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 12:05:46 AM
You could say that coin was overvalued but that was the current market going rate. To pay over melt or metal content either it's collectible or scarce as in not very many gold coins available.
 

This coin is several grades better at EF and went only 178.5$ poor vendor
getting 30 $ less for a far superior coin

http://cgi.ebay.com/1925-D-2-1-2-Indian-Head-Quarter-Eagle-US-GOLD-COIN_W0QQitemZ360241812638QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item53e015d49e

The complete list of closed items shows that 85% of the buyers overpaid their coin
since they were unable to grade the coin themselves

http://cgi.ebay.com/1925-D-2-1-2-Indian-Head-Quarter-Eagle-US-GOLD-COIN_W0QQitemZ360241812638QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item53e015d49e
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 12:10:07 AM
Silever and gold eagles

http://www.zealllc.com/2010/mintcoin2.htm

Back in the mid 80's I was giving my nephew ASE's for Christmas and his birthdays until I heard he was trading them for baseball cards.  Ha, ha, what are those baseball cards worth now?

Don't keep me guessing ; tell me  :)
Anywhere from zero to 100$ I would guess

I don't know. I think he traded the baseball cards for 1 1/2 inch  medieval soldiers.  Maybe he should be selling derivatives or default swaps for the Sachbags?   :o

The child of which I am godfather was 12 years old in 2008
I wanted to give him a gold coin and my wife said I was crazy
so I gave in 500 euro of which he blew major part on a Wii game immidiately
the rest his father put at 2% on a savings account whilst inflation is 3-4%
Ah well I still have the coin  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 14, 2010, 06:27:23 AM
Those Indian heads are so cool. How would you like to carry around a pocket full of those as loose change?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 06:42:46 AM
Those Indian heads are so cool. How would you like to carry around a pocket full of those as loose change?

They are cool ; but I consider the nicest Indian I have the 1910 ten dollar piece I paid deerly
at 130% over melt in 2003
Probably MS63-64
( PS I actually have a 200 year old french king with a bite mark on it)

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3126&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 14, 2010, 06:44:03 AM
Free shipping.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 14, 2010, 06:46:54 AM
Quote
( PS I actually have a 200 year old french king with a bite mark on it)
The king bit his own coin to check it???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 06:49:47 AM
Free shipping.

It says circulated
It says uncertified
The picture could be of a worhtless jewellry piece
Anybody can say MS63  ???

He should have asked 200 $ insured shipping to keep in character  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 06:53:24 AM
Quote
( PS I actually have a 200 year old french king with a bite mark on it)
The king bit his own coin to check it???

Somebody with still intact upper and lower molars bit it . I never ever have
seen something like this before or afterwards because from the Napoleon I on
the coins were too thick to dent
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 07:01:34 AM
It is a1787 coin and it is hard to see on a scan
but the dent is between 2 and 3 o'clock on the reverse
I would say the coin is low XF

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3128&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 14, 2010, 07:33:09 AM
Interesting but I think you should send that Indian head back to the US mint in protest. It's a cruel joke to put 'Liberty' across the headband. I think you'll get $45us for the return.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 10:02:45 AM
Interesting but I think you should send that Indian head back to the US mint in protest. It's a cruel joke to put 'Liberty' across the headband. I think you'll get $45us for the return.

Why ? It is only a 10 dollar coin .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 14, 2010, 10:10:26 AM
Interesting but I think you should send that Indian head back to the US mint in protest. It's a cruel joke to put 'Liberty' across the headband. I think you'll get $45us for the return.

Why ? It is only a 10 dollar coin .

Return on investment?? Actually $42.22 (US Mint book value of an ounce of gold) divided by 2 since it's an 1/2 gold piece.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 10:37:24 AM
Ah it has started

The german central bank refuses to give the gold it probably does not have any more ;
to the politicians for a European Central Bank

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE62D0YF20100314
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 14, 2010, 11:14:10 AM
You can't value gold stores unless you know the amount of all outstanding debt. I don't anyone can count that high is why they don't peg gold to fiat, willingly.

PYW? Can I get your opinion on this essay esp. the China part. Hypertiger (http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/2009/10/not-since-1930s.html)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 14, 2010, 11:17:32 AM
Quote
....The first gold shipments were made from January to July 1937. The majority of the United States' gold reserves were gradually shipped to the site, including old bullion and more newly made bars made from melted gold coins. Some intact coins were stored, as well. The transfer needed 500 rail cars and was sent by registered mail, protected by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.

During World War II, the repository held the original U.S. Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution. It also held the reserves of several European countries and several key documents from Western history; for example, it held the Crown of St. Stephen, part of the Hungarian crown jewels, given to American soldiers to prevent them from falling into Soviet hands. The repository also held one of four known copies (exemplifications) of Magna Carta, which had been sent for display at the 1939 New York World Fair, and which, when war broke out, was kept in America for the duration.

During World War II and on into the Cold War, until the invention of synthetic painkillers, a substantial supply of processed morphine and opium was kept in the Depository as a hedge against the United States being cut off from the sources of supply of raw opium.
History (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bullion_Depository)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2010, 10:16:04 PM
You can't value gold stores unless you know the amount of all outstanding debt. I don't anyone can count that high is why they don't peg gold to fiat, willingly.

PYW? Can I get your opinion on this essay esp. the China part. Hypertiger (http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/2009/10/not-since-1930s.html)


First this is not our Hypertiger from the stool . He was a male Canadian

Most of the things she writes are at least half the truth and plausible.

But I ask myself ; why are we in the west all poor ? Because we spend and we spend
money we did not own on things that we did not need and which are now broken and not
paid for .We are like somebody who bought a car on installements and drove it against a tree and still has to pay 3 years for nothing left.
In other words we are going to suffer for another ten years before we have caught up
with the money we spent on needless things .

China was producing silk and chinese ink and calygraphy long before us . All they need is raw materials which they can pay for with the mountain of dollars they have in reserve.
We will be providing them with the techonology they need . Chinese are a saving nation and at the same time they need all "basic" things we have ; like cars . A car is probably the last thing a bankrupt person looses because it is his freedom and he allways has had one . So I think the Chinese will be doing very well ; in fact not worse then we did after
the industrial revolution : better and more things for every chinaman . Also they are getting
a lot out of Africa and if they are clever can sell a lot back there ; later on .

We are doomed for at least 10 more years of pain and writing about China or anybody else
being in dire straits is not going to help us. Basically it is like Jim Sinclair says
Pay off all your debts and stop buying on credit and hunker down for the storm which is coming. Nobody is going to save us because we all are to busy saving ourselves .

I am not saying Hypertigers rantings are wrong ; I am only saying that if we go down alone or with China does not change anything to the fact we are in trouble

Just my humble opinion
August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 15, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
The next war ?

Quote
Hundreds of powerful US “bunker-buster” bombs are being shipped from California to the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean in preparation for a possible attack on Iran.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/world-news/final-destination-iran-1.1013151
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 16, 2010, 04:37:34 AM
Well construction was down 5.9% in February. Is it me or are they stuck on 5.9 percent when handing out figures?  Anyway, construction was down not because the "recovery" is a transvestite butt gerbil but because of that unexpectedly surprising snow and cold up north. You know,  who could have seen that cold and snow  coming in February?

Dear America: Maybe we shouldn't blast Mexicans so much.  At least they accept the the truth that they live in a country that is bankrupt and corrupt to the core.

The fallen Giant.
(http://media.smithsonianmag.com/images/indelible_feb07_388.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 16, 2010, 04:53:21 AM
They seem to have had a breeding ground for teachers in Cali
Schwarzy got 15 000 out last year and a new round is coming for maybe 22 000

Quote
Pink slips sent to thousands of Calif. teachers
By ROBIN HINDERY, Associated Press Writer
Monday, March 15, 2010

California’s budget crisis could cost nearly 22,000 teachers their jobs this year.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2010/03/15/state/n131126D27.DTL
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 16, 2010, 05:21:22 AM
Public "education" in America was the brain child of Rockefeller, Carnegie and Henry Ford. It was never intended to teach kids anything accept regimentation to an assembly line. Guess people were just as gullible back then too. "Shazammm, Andrew wants my chill 'un to become book learnt. What a good fella he is."  Ha, ha, they fell for that one so easily they bought in the federal reserve system next.

They should take all the money that would go to public schools and build public libraries. You can actually learn something  there. Or use the "information highway"  for something useful like ordering books on ABE and Amazon.  ;D

All they need in Kalifornia is Mao's Little Red Book. How long can it take to read that?

PYW I just remembered something about Socionomics. About five years one of Karl Marx's rags, I think Das Kapital, went to #1 on the New York Times list. Hows that for a leading indicator?  

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 16, 2010, 06:02:36 AM


PYW I just remembered something about Socionomics. About five years one of Karl Marx's rags, I think Das Kapital, went to #1 on the New York Times list. Hows that for a leading indicator?  

 

Or maybe not.  :o I was trying to find the exact year in their archives and I didn't find anything. But I do remember one his books going to  #1 on someone's list  and it was when bush was in office.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 16, 2010, 07:28:01 AM


PYW I just remembered something about Socionomics. About five years one of Karl Marx's rags, I think Das Kapital, went to #1 on the New York Times list. Hows that for a leading indicator?  

 

Or maybe not.  :o I was trying to find the exact year in their archives and I didn't find anything. But I do remember one his books going to  #1 on someone's list  and it was when bush was in office.

I do not know much about Karl Marx or his writings
Seemed such a waste of time to read him

I was curious enough to read Mein Kampf by  Fuehrer Hitler  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 16, 2010, 08:06:18 AM
It really doesn't matter what you read. The (governments governed by a select few filthy rich hiding in the wings) have orchastrated it all and they won't quite until they have every one, all over the world, on their knees begging to be saved. It has been the plan all along and now we are seeing the early stages. The ones to suffer the least will be the poor as they are already used to no work and no money. They already count on the government to bail them out!! We are next!

I get a kick out of the new advertisements claiming there is now a movement to do away with free TV. Wonder who is behind that? DISH TV and CABLE TV? With the help of government they will get it done. Who in the right mind would NOT want FREE anything? My grandfather always told me to take anything free that was offered to me. He said, "You may not know it but you have or will pay for it anyway so take it!"
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 16, 2010, 10:01:58 AM
It really doesn't matter what you read. The (governments governed by a select few filthy rich hiding in the wings) have orchastrated it all and they won't quite until they have every one, all over the world, on their knees begging to be saved. It has been the plan all along and now we are seeing the early stages. The ones to suffer the least will be the poor as they are already used to no work and no money. They already count on the government to bail them out!! We are next!

I get a kick out of the new advertisements claiming there is now a movement to do away with free TV. Wonder who is behind that? DISH TV and CABLE TV? With the help of government they will get it done. Who in the right mind would NOT want FREE anything? My grandfather always told me to take anything free that was offered to me. He said, "You may not know it but you have or will pay for it anyway so take it!"

We used to pay for having a TV tax  and then it was made free for a few years and now we pay not for having a TV but for the cable bringing the TV to our home . And guess what ? We pay like double for the cable then we did for the TV . The government looses the income and we pay double nice deal ?

My city which has a mayor and majority I never ever voted for have given the parking rights to a french company . They were too stupid to empty the parking meters themselves . This company now has 8 people walking around the city all day and writing "tickets" of 15 euro for everybodies parking meter showing a red flag or for anybody not having a parking "disc" on his car dash ( 1.5 hrs free parking witht the disc ) However they also own the three parking garages and the one on the marketsquare got so expensive that tourists complained . Solution of the city ? Every car parked there now gets a 0.10 euro
bonus to the french company so they do not have to raise the price ( for how long ? )

Parking in front of my house now requires a special card issued by those french . This will be free for two years . How much after that ? I don't know but I fear the worst
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on March 16, 2010, 04:25:55 PM
I'm wondering if the other I O U's are stashed there also...Amtrac, the Post Office, FDIC, Medicare, Medicaid, etc, etc. If the wharehouse isn't big enough, they'd better enlarge it for obamacare. (He doesn't deserve capitalization!)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 16, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
It is quite hypocritical to call them IOU's

At least we have a system were the working pay directly for the retired
No pretence we ever paid for our own retirement
Those that are presently working pay for my retirment ; everything I paid
went to one retired person one sick person and one not wanting to work person
So I supported three persons because paying is % of salary
Getting pension is now max like 1600 euro net unless you are an ex government
"worker" you get 20% more pension
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 16, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
Bo has very wise aids

Quote
Obama Aides See ‘Extended Period’ of Unemployment (Update1) 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601010&sid=afaCdb656DNg

PS ; very intresting typo I made ; must be subconsional
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 16, 2010, 09:55:37 PM
6 weeks ago I said the relative gold high would be 8 or 19 march
8 was formulated on the basis of the surprise december high ( should have been jan)
19 was formulated on the basis of 9 years past history

Looks like the statistics are back to normal and 19 march is a serious contender again
( or with luck a few days later and 20 $ higher )

I am amazed at the way the forecast I originally made in december is about to be close enough for my liking ( and like I said I do not mind gold to go on trucking past 19 march)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 17, 2010, 02:05:38 AM
Bo has very wise aids

Quote
Obama Aides See ‘Extended Period’ of Unemployment (Update1)  

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601010&sid=afaCdb656DNg

PS ; very intresting typo I made ; must be subconsional

I believe it was his brilliant aides who explained American economics to him-- 50% of the country is zombified and either living on welfare or parked in the park with the A/C running and reading a newspaper. The second 50% of the country is supporting the zombified 50%. So if you want to pay off the national debt you have to get the third  50% of the country to do that.  They're hoping to locate that third 50% through the census. That way the census bureau will have something to do for the next nine years.  

If that doesn't work they could always  sell out the country to china. Anyone find a Mao toll booth in their driveway yet?

Hey what happened to those "great investments" that Knobhead made for us through TARP? Are those in the warehouse or have they been "misplaced."

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 02:15:49 AM
You are lucky that 50% is working for the other 50%
Here it is 25% working for the other 75% ( and I am now in the 75%  ;D )

One of our ministers must have at least one braincell left because he proposed to let
those above 65 work voluntarily for as much money as they can get ( just paying taxes
and not losing their pensions )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 17, 2010, 02:45:36 AM
Well it's  not case everywhere. Governor Tarzan can't seem to figure out that he has no producers in Kalifornia. Just gubment and social parasites who are still  under the hallucination that the Queen Bitch in San Franciso is really a Queen.

Most  producers moved to Idaho.  The one's who remain, I'll bet, are smart speculators waiting for  the dung heap collapse.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 02:51:19 AM
Well it's  not case everywhere. Governor Tarzan can't seem to figure out that he has no producers in Kalifornia. Just gubment and social parasites who are still are under the hallucination that the Queen Bitch in San Franciso is really a Queen.

The producers moved to Idaho.

Who is the queen bitch ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 17, 2010, 03:05:17 AM
(http://blog.mlive.com/elections_source/2008/03/large_080325_nancy_pelosi_quell_infighting.JPG)

I see she's still shopping Inter-dimensional alien billiard rooms for her pearls.
Maybe they can fix her up with some higher quality botox. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 03:10:26 AM
(http://blog.mlive.com/elections_source/2008/03/large_080325_nancy_pelosi_quell_infighting.JPG)

I see she's still shopping Inter-dimensional alien billiard rooms for her pearls.
Maybe they can fix her up with some higher quality botox. 

She does not need a face lift but a face downstretch and may be other things ?
A queen bitch in flemish is a lesbian dike
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 17, 2010, 05:47:21 AM
(http://blog.mlive.com/elections_source/2008/03/large_080325_nancy_pelosi_quell_infighting.JPG)

I see she's still shopping Inter-dimensional alien billiard rooms for her pearls.
Maybe they can fix her up with some higher quality botox.  

She does not need a face lift but a face downstretch and may be other things ?
A queen bitch in flemish is a lesbian dike

I believe it was a reference that Sigourney Weaver made about the monster in one of the Alien movies. Maybe pelosi can try a Spackle knife and Bondo?

The gang of four has, IMO, ushered in the Fourth Turning with their health care reform. They are betting everything on  it's  passing. They even have what they call a nuclear option which is just a code word for treason using procedural gobbily gook.  But it's an interesting phrase since Forth Turnings are "scotched earth" "to the death"  "take no prisoners." I don't think they going to get it. But it will finally expose washington politicians for the traitors that they are and always have been. Not that the republicans are any better. They just pork everyone one stroke at a time. These clowns are trying to take too much too fast. They did us all a favor by letting us see abruptly how they really are.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 06:07:31 AM
August: Cycle chart looks in sync so far. I unloaded a lot of stock for profits on spikes like NG BAA and lightened up on a few others waiting for CGC HL bids to hit. If it's not a top I'll just hunt for some laggers. If it is a top I'll just wait for lows. Prepared to wait a month and a half from here.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 06:12:10 AM
August: Cycle chart looks in sync so far. I unloaded a lot of stock for profits on spikes like NG BAA and lightened up on a few others waiting for CGC HL bids to hit. If it's not a top I'll just hunt for some laggers. If it is a top I'll just wait for lows. Prepared to wait a month and a half from here.

I am still looking to unload South Africans and my trading positions in Kinross and Minefinders
If it is a relative top that ends the first 107 day cycle . The new cycle probably then starts
with a 35 days so 17 calendar days for gold . Miners synchronous or one week later
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 06:17:06 AM
In the end they all go up even the SA mines it just a trick/gamble picking the future stellar stocks.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 17, 2010, 06:19:18 AM
Maybe pelosi can try a Spackle knife and Bondo?
No sooner said than done! A little pull here and a little tug there and she is as good as new!
(http://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/nancy-pelosi-facelift.jpg)

At least they're pulling in the right direction. Kerry went the other way and now he looks like a horse.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 06:21:34 AM
In the end they all go up even the SA mines it just a trick/gamble picking the future stellar stocks.

I want good performance for acceptable risk and the South Africans are not giving the performance any more .
If I only had known that my "chartpick" of Oceana was going to give 50% in a few weeks
I would have bought more then a full basic position  ???

I read this morning that Tanzanian is in the top 10 takeover candidates ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 06:31:36 AM
It's hard to value Sinclair's company when he takes no salary and contributes millions to his own cause creates a smoke filled room for the accountants. All miners are on the 'acquire' list if the price is right. I'm sure he wants the Chinese to take it off his hands. You get a nice spike in share price during acquisition phase but lose out in the long run as reserves are depleted if you hold shares.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 06:37:46 AM
This banking system is worthless when consumers stop requesting money to rent. The Ponzi scheme can't feed itself and debt can't be serviced and continues to pile/add up. In April California has to make a new budget and refund itself all over again from scratch along with the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 06:40:18 AM
It's hard to value Sinclair's company when he takes no salary and contributes millions to his own cause creates a smoke filled room for the accountants. All miners are on the 'acquire' list if the price is right. I'm sure he wants the Chinese to take it off his hands. You get a nice spike in share price during acquisition phase but lose out in the long run as reserves are depleted if you hold shares.

In the past I was in shares being taken over several times
If I had taken the 10-15% bonus and ran I would have been better of
Of course the smaller companies will be offered a larger bonus these days
but still ; now I will take the bonus and run
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 06:51:22 AM
As you know I like NG in the long run, it has one mine on mothballs in Alaska so they actually produce nothing but continue to drill holes everywhere as possible and probable reserves continue to grow and grow each minute with buy out price increasing to levels only countries could afford. Wouldn't be surprised for its chart to look like Google's and price be just as high someday.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 07:00:32 AM
As you know I like NG in the long run, it has one mine on mothballs in Alaska so they actually produce nothing but continue to drill holes everywhere as possible and probable reserves continue to grow and grow each minute with buy out price increasing to levels only countries could afford. Wouldn't be surprised for its chart to look like Google's and price be just as high someday.

I have looked at Novagold a dozen times but the monthly and weekly chart stop me each time
For the moment I am eyeing New Gold Inc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 08:38:52 AM
New Gold is producing and making money. NG is not so any chart resistance is strong, a couple more Soros and Paulson buy-ins and it will breakout big time. Buy a hundred shares on a pullback and see how it feels. I own both.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 08:46:41 AM
See if you can get hands on some Promedia 2.1 Klipsch speakers ($100us) model  Promedia 4.1 are even better. European plug-in current versions also made. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 10:46:15 AM
See if you can get hands on some Promedia 2.1 Klipsch speakers ($100us) model  Promedia 4.1 are even better. European plug-in current versions also made. 

Sorry I do not understand at whom this message is directed and whether it is
advise or a question
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 17, 2010, 10:49:03 AM
PS Continental Europe is still on winter time ; that is why I am not in bed  ;D
I don 't know about the UK since they don't sync
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 17, 2010, 04:44:33 PM
I was just suggesting some speakers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 18, 2010, 01:35:57 AM
I was just suggesting some speakers.

Tx
I used to be an Hi Fi fanatic and I got KEF 107 reference loudspeakers
Reference loudspeakers are used by recording studios to judge their recordings
I know somebody in Germany who got a recording studio

My amp is an american phase linear of twice 1500 watt peak . you can fry eggs on it
if you use it in a discotheque without coolers
750 watt twice RMS ( root mean square which means it can output that all day long )

I once tried to open it to 250 watt in my living and my ears achked for a week and the windows were actually , visibly vibrating .

My neighbour is Japanese and her brother works for Matsushita ; the american pre amp
has lousy copper vacuum relays in them because the Japanese did not export the good stuff ( too expensive to make a profit I guess ) So I got a dozen gold plated relays from her

My record player is a Lynn Sondek 12 with moving coil pick up and pre pre amp

When I put the system togehter I assumed a 0.5 % of the power making it to the amps as sound . Which for labyrinth loudspeakers and left and right cut off amplifier curves was normal . However the phase linear does not use cut off to get a straigth amplification curve but uses brute force to get a straight amplification curve . On top of that the loudspeakers are computer designed to give optimum rendement which is 2%
In other words I overdesigned by a factor 10 ( story of my life , I allways try to be perfect were 80% of perfection is optimal for cost and effort reasons )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 18, 2010, 01:38:47 AM
Today I made the daily chart with slow stochs set at 52.3.3 for a 107 days cycle
Story unfolds and high is near
(ps chart label says 17 but it is 18 march)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 18, 2010, 01:50:58 AM
This 2.5 dollar is an XF or better but the guy wants 25 euro shipping outside europe
I bought dozens of coins from him

http://cgi.ebay.fr/USA-INDIAN-HEAD-2-5-DOLLARS-GOLD-OR-ORO-1913_W0QQitemZ250598410515QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFR_GW_Pi%C3%A8cesMonde?hash=item3a58d44913



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 18, 2010, 06:01:18 AM
I see August is going to be hard to impress fidelity wise. Those Klipsch 2.1 would make good computer or spare room speakers then. Haven't listen to anything with vacuum tubes for years but miss the warmth. I have decent computer sound cards to keep me entertained with downloaded music, movies, DVDs and whatnot.

I was looking at Ebay Indian head $10 coins but good condition headbands bring high prices and  I only see a few Krugerrands for bid.

Close enough on the highs prediction. NG spiked again for a double top except RGLD so far is up today which is usually a leader (backdoor buying?), go figure maybe some miners won't track spot lower. Still traveling in a large range $1050 - $1150 for a month on this side of the pond wouldn't be a surprise to me.

Maybe I should try Monroe collectibles while I'm waiting.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 18, 2010, 06:38:21 AM
I see August is going to be hard to impress fidelity wise. Those Klipsch 2.1 would make good computer or spare room speakers then. Haven't listen to anything with vacuum tubes for years but miss the warmth. I have decent computer sound cards to keep me entertained with downloaded music, movies, DVDs and whatnot.

Maybe I should try Monroe collectibles while I'm waiting.

I bought an Emtec n200 (probably sold under mother company's name in several countries)
This 98 Euro little multimedia player upgrades 700 kbytes films in nearly all formats
avi, dvix, wmv,H260 etc to the full 4.7 gigabytes quality of a high definitions dvd
on the fly .
http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=STMOB&gamme=DISQUES%20DURS&ss_gamme=N200
For most listening to music or musical films from computer source or TV I use a closed earcup heavy weigth Sennheiser wireless headset ( the RS140)

I still got a 60 year old valve radio-amplifier that works . Most people cannot remember
what a valvesound is . It is like white lightbulbs versus daylight bulbs if you do not know the second you do not miss it

I have been collecting Swarovski chrystal in the meantime . I don't have
enough free wall space for Marilyn  >:(

August

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 18, 2010, 07:41:35 AM
Next up is 3D TV monitors. New models selling out already.

I read ear canal phones are really nice but expensive. I rather feel the high and lows from good speakers besides audibly.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 18, 2010, 09:44:09 AM
Next up is 3D TV monitors. New models selling out already.

I read ear canal phones are really nice but expensive. I rather feel the high and lows from good speakers besides audibly.

The Panasonic 3D sold out in one week in Merika for more then 3000 $ apiece
The Mericans are alive and kicking credit

My Sennheiser costs 100 euro = 137 $

You only "feel" the lows on organ music around 20 HZ
Half of the wave has to fit in your living room and in the music instrument ( in this
case the organ of the church ) I can turn mine up so you got difficulty to breath from the soundpressure

What I really like is that with rightly positioned reference loudspeakers ; when you close your eyes ; the singer is 5 feet high in between the loudspeakers without "moving"
My favourite demo record for this is Whiskey in the Jarro from the Dubliners

My favourite windows rattling demo is Child in Time from deep purple ( Labyrinth loudspeakers really give up on that crescendo )

I am waiting for the white of their eyes ; I did not sell any shares today

August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 18, 2010, 03:59:10 PM
http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=9318550

Interview with Arch Crawford - He is actually highly ranked as a Market timer. HEADS UP

- Utterly cataclysmic event predicted for this year. I've never heard him talk like this. Later this year holds possibly the most ominous astrological planetary alignment in 10,000 years. This planetary alignment will occur in "the last week in July to the middle of August".

- Markets to crash "lower than any year in the last 200." Markets may crash after August 1. He has stated in a prior newsletter, "We will do everything but guarantee you that stocks will crash worldwide within three months of August first (that is between May 1 and November 1)."

- Gold to "take off like a rocket" the first week in April.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 18, 2010, 04:06:23 PM
Next up is 3D TV monitors. New models selling out already.

I read ear canal phones are really nice but expensive. I rather feel the high and lows from good speakers besides audibly.

The Panasonic 3D sold out in one week in Merika for more then 3000 $ apiece
The Mericans are alive and kicking credit

My Sennheiser costs 100 euro = 137 $

You only "feel" the lows on organ music around 20 HZ
Half of the wave has to fit in your living room and in the music instrument ( in this
case the organ of the church ) I can turn mine up so you got difficulty to breath from the soundpressure

What I really like is that with rightly positioned reference loudspeakers ; when you close your eyes ; the singer is 5 feet high in between the loudspeakers without "moving"
My favourite demo record for this is Whiskey in the Jarro from the Dubliners

My favourite windows rattling demo is Child in Time from deep purple ( Labyrinth loudspeakers really give up on that crescendo )

I am waiting for the white of their eyes ; I did not sell any shares today

August

Would love to hear Pink Floyd on your system. Really like Whisky in the Jar especially by Thin Lizzy.
Handels Messiah, Judy Collins....
When driving long distances would listen to deep purple only cause is had an irritating quality that kept me awake ;D This is true.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 12:26:14 AM
Next up is 3D TV monitors. New models selling out already.

I read ear canal phones are really nice but expensive. I rather feel the high and lows from good speakers besides audibly.

The Panasonic 3D sold out in one week in Merika for more then 3000 $ apiece
The Mericans are alive and kicking credit

My Sennheiser costs 100 euro = 137 $

You only "feel" the lows on organ music around 20 HZ
Half of the wave has to fit in your living room and in the music instrument ( in this
case the organ of the church ) I can turn mine up so you got difficulty to breath from the soundpressure

What I really like is that with rightly positioned reference loudspeakers ; when you close your eyes ; the singer is 5 feet high in between the loudspeakers without "moving"
My favourite demo record for this is Whiskey in the Jarro from the Dubliners

My favourite windows rattling demo is Child in Time from deep purple ( Labyrinth loudspeakers really give up on that crescendo )

I am waiting for the white of their eyes ; I did not sell any shares today

August

Would love to hear Pink Floyd on your system. Really like Whisky in the Jar especially by Thin Lizzy.
Handels Messiah, Judy Collins....
When driving long distances would listen to deep purple only cause is had an irritating quality that kept me awake ;D This is true.

When I still worked at Monsanto I had two instrument players one cello the other violin
come to listen to my system and I put on Beethoven violin concerto opus 61 .
They said when they closed their eyes they heard a live orchestra

I had one american come over liking Parson Projects so I put on La Sagrada Familia
He bought the KEF loudspeakers 107 and toke them with him to america

I like The Wall on my system and Meatloaf  I would do anything for love but I won't do that.

There is an engineering law in optimizing that says you have to start at the back and work your way up front and optimize again at each intermidiate step
So I think the loudspeakers if they can be driven by the power of your system are the
first step in optimization . But I kid you not when I say a pair of Sennheiser headspeakers
can be sensational ( also in the bass region )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 12:33:39 AM
A pity Arch Crawford is not in the guru list

http://www.cxoadvisory.com/gurus/

Most paid forecasters are a joke

The efficient market theory also says that a monkey throwing darts at a newspaper section with shares is going to outperform most of the forecasters  ;D

Currencies and countries and banksters are going to crash ; but anybody producing anything that is wanted should survive ; foodproducers ; energy; ?  ?  ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 01:05:27 AM
I like the latest Midas report

http://agoracom.com/ir/ECU/forums/discussion/topics/409053-options-data-from-tonight-s-midas-report/messages/1348734#message
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 01:06:43 AM
Quote
Why is Wall Street like the Planet of the Apes? Because the gorillas have all the weapons, nets, and horses, and ride around all day shooting the human beings.
 

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/03/rumours-of-unexpected-fed-discount-rate.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 01:51:53 AM
PYW......looks like you were right on the money with your last prediction.  After missing the one in Dec. I  think I'll cash in this morning and then see what happens next.

Did anyone happen to catch the news related to old Fess Parker?  Seems that he cashed in and took the trip to the happy hunting ground. He will be missed.

Yes statistics are just that even if you are 99.8 % right there is 0.2% disaster possible if you play it all on the one card . I was 95% shure and lost in decembre 2009 . But it looks
like we are back to the "old" statistics and that the "new" statistic do not hold .
However this time around I am going to be carefull with a november high and octobre and decembre will be equal opportunities forecasts ( keeping januari in memory )

In statistics there is the concept of a pre fact prediction and a post fact adaption
If you predict 90% certainty of a baby being born in may and when it is not born in may
de post facto prediction drops to zero for may and the june prediction shoots up from 10% to 99 % ( if the baby is still alive )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 02:29:18 AM
I just sold 20% of my basic position in Anglogold for the high of the day I guess
That brings my basic position of Anglogold to 80% and still to be reduced
I have had it with Anglogold and Harmony and Droopy  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 02:43:43 AM
I just had an email from an american ebay vendor
He listed his coin three times in a row for buy immidiately and only I was
intrested but since he asked 35$ insured shipping I told him to eff off

Now he is asking for a decent offer
I told him free shipping will do it  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 03:09:03 AM
I like this very much
Gold coin sales fall 80%
Good that people prefer paper

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601012&sid=alkB2RgF2eCI
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 19, 2010, 03:26:11 AM
PYW......looks like you were right on the money with your last prediction.  After missing the one in Dec. I  think I'll cash in this morning and then see what happens next.

Did anyone happen to catch the news related to old Fess Parker?  Seems that he cashed in and took the trip to the happy hunting ground. He will be missed.

A  wild black "bar" finally got him?  ;D I used to love watching the Daniel Boone show.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 04:03:14 AM
She loves me or she loves me not

( gold I mean )( but with quadrupple witching hour next week and all the margin positions
between 1100 and 1150  anything can happen ) ( and she will only be free the week after)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 04:07:55 AM
(http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/img2010/Midas/Midas0318D.gif)

http://agoracom.com/ir/ECU/forums/discussion/topics/409053-options-data-from-tonight-s-midas-report/messages/1348734#message
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 04:48:33 AM
Quote
Only a few people are smart enough to understand *the truth* of the matter, which is that ultimately bankers are smarter and better than everyone else, always have been always will be. Not that it’s fun to have this knowledge! Quite frankly, it is a terrible burden, because no matter how much you say it and how true it is, no one wants to believe you. 

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/03/lehman_executives_nonchalant_a.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 19, 2010, 06:06:13 AM
NG gets relisted on the TSX.

I certainly didn't dump everything even though I had the chance, I do have some spending money to re-weight my favorite miners when the time comes.

Have, rarely use, Sennheiser HD 280 pro headphones I'd rather feel the highs through my cheek bones and the lows rumble through the air. Klipsch makes some ear canal phones for $300us that everyone swears by but I hardly ever use the one I have.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 06:40:37 AM
NG gets relisted on the TSX.

I certainly didn't dump everything even though I had the chance, I do have some spending money to re-weight my favorite miners when the time comes.

Have, rarely use, Sennheiser HD 280 pro headphones I'd rather feel the highs through my cheek bones and the lows rumble through the air. Klipsch makes some ear canal phones for $300us that everyone swears by but I hardly ever use the one I have.

Belgian law prohibits noise after 10 pm
I have a neighbouring renter who complained several times when I played The rocky horror picture show soundtrack after 10 pm
So I got used to the sound between the ears

I still only got 4 % cash apart from the emergency back up cash
I hope that quad witching is stopping an intermidiate high and I can sell
more HMY and AU and sell some Drooy and Kinross

But que sera sera

PS you are a star hitter ; 8 people looked at your girl before I even logged on again
Kudus

August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 19, 2010, 06:51:15 AM
I always thought about making a sound proof room but I'd probably end up going deaf.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 07:03:25 AM
I always thought about making a sound proof room but I'd probably end up going deaf.

That german guy I know with his recording studio has a sound proof room .
It is weird to hear the music over reference loudspeakers in a soundproof room.

All you need for good listening is a room twice as long as it is wide and like 12 meter long or longer
( I guess that is 40 feet ) with a mixture of reflective surfaces and absorbant surfaces
and then you put your seat at half distence of the separation of the two loudspeakers
at 6 meter wide that would be 3 meters away from the midpoint
( the other 9 meters are necessary for the 20 Hz waves to be felt where you sit )

I studied sound for 5 years and try to forget  :)
I am a maniac at everything I do  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 19, 2010, 09:51:45 AM
I have told my girl friend REPEATEDLY to quit posing for you folks in Europe. Seems I can't keep nothing to myself! ;) I might add I was approached last week to do the photo shoot, over a period of weeks in my spare time, for a very seductive 12 month calendar. I had to give it at least 15 seconds of hard thought before agreeing to offering my services. If I do end up with this opportunity I will most likely post photos here for your professional opinions. For what it is worth the model is 30 years old (I have not met her) and very willing to be photographed in such a way to make sure the calendars are successful? I wonder what that means?

I will keep you posted as negotiations continue of this Close Encounter of the Third Kind?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 10:25:20 AM
I have told my girl friend REPEATEDLY to quit posing for you folks in Europe. Seems I can't keep nothing to myself! ;) I might add I was approached last week to do the photo shoot, over a period of weeks in my spare time, for a very seductive 12 month calendar. I had to give it at least 15 seconds of hard thought before agreeing to offering my services. If I do end up with this opportunity I will most likely post photos here for your professional opinions. For what it is worth the model is 30 years old (I have not met her) and very willing to be photographed in such a way to make sure the calendars are successful? I wonder what that means?

I will keep you posted as negotiations continue of this Close Encounter of the Third Kind?

The third kind means you are willing to speak to her . Why would you do that  :P
The fourth kind must be better  :D Whatever comes after the talking  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 19, 2010, 01:46:37 PM
If anyone cares those Klipsch ear canal phones are model Image X10. If you buy a pair I want a complete report.
Specifications.....Klipsch Image X10 (http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-specifications/) (Never pay retail, play beat the price and shop around)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2010, 10:08:27 PM
If anyone cares those Klipsch ear canal phones are model Image X10. If you buy a pair I want a complete report.
Specifications.....Klipsch Image X10 (http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-specifications/) (Never pay retail, play beat the price and shop around)

I have the Sennheiser RS140 . Heavy , full earpads, as advised by my soundcounselor
I see the price went up 60% in two years

http://www.4launch.nl/shop/product/031843/sennheiser-koptelefoon-rs140-draadloos--gesloten/kelkoo

(http://www.4launch.com/images/producten/icecat/031843s.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2010, 12:49:49 AM
This week was a gain for gold in euro again and a loss for miners in euro
attenuated by the strong candollar
I am disgusted since in miners only the candollar keeps me afloat

The wealthlab formulas say we migrated to a 121 day cycle and 436-440 Hui possible
The best P&F chart in the world is undecided as I am
My german service only releases the new weekly chart of gold on sunday

(http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/gold-pf.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2010, 12:53:03 AM
Bunch of shitty miners
Gold lovable gold ; from the film Paint Your Wagon

http://www.technicalwatch.com/metals.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2010, 01:06:30 AM
What did I do right to have Oceana
and why do I have only one Oceana ?
and why the hell did I buy Droopy ?

http://stockcharts.com/charts/performance/perf.html?HMY,AUY,KGC,AU,MFN,DROOY,TRE,OGC.TO,GBG
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2010, 01:15:58 AM
Hitler Jugend is sorry his people buggered children in Ireland
Is it possible he raped jews and he is sorry because that is no longer polically correct ?
Twoshadows ; your cardinal is a pussy compaired to reality  :P

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2fa58662-338d-11df-9223-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 20, 2010, 01:26:14 AM
Oh but you don't really know the Cardinal yet!  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2010, 01:27:22 AM
Deus te absolva
and if you do it again at least have the decency NOT to get caught stupid pricks

(http://static3.tijd.be/i/00/1e/c3.250.jpeg?ts=1269087663000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2010, 01:28:57 AM
Oh but you don't really know the Cardinal yet!  ;)

I am looking forward to really see his good side  ;D
I mean trousers stripped down and sitting on the top floor of Dan's outhouse  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 20, 2010, 09:49:57 AM
We are at a crossroads were it between inflation and deflation, deflation would win and all things everywhere including gold would fall in price as a serious world wide depression set in. Enter hyper-inflation where the only thing that falls is confidence in fiat. This is what you are betting on to happen.

I sold what I felt needed to be sold and hope the remaining cores are at basis costs far lower than any short term correction can take them to. The next 30 days should be buying opportunities until it is determined to be obvious that the only temporary fix for the banking system's debt is hyper-inflation.

Even the extremely weak miners will recover but not yet.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2010, 10:35:14 AM
We are at a crossroads were it between inflation and deflation, deflation would win and all things everywhere including gold would fall in price as a serious world wide depression set in. Enter hyper-inflation where the only thing that falls is confidence in fiat. This is what you are betting on to happen.

I sold what I felt needed to be sold and hope the remaining cores are at basis costs far lower than any short term correction can take them to. The next 30 days should be buying opportunities until it is determined to be obvious that the only temporary fix for the banking system's debt is hyper-inflation.

Even the extremely weak miners will recover but not yet.

I don't care about short term corrections ( six month ). I rode Echo Bay down 90% and ended with a gain of 10% net when Kinross toke it over . I believe in whatever scenario gold will be gold ; inflation or deflation.
I am to stupid to scare ; so nobody is going to get my shares cheap

I am going to bet that the "november" high is going to be the starting mother of all highs
In the meantime should mines drop 25% I will use my emergency reserves  .
I still battle with myself to determine the relative high is in or not . But the nex 30 days
should be ( a last ? ) buying op



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 20, 2010, 01:13:40 PM
Quote
Only a few people are smart enough to understand *the truth* of the matter, which is that ultimately bankers are smarter and better than everyone else, always have been always will be. Not that it’s fun to have this knowledge! Quite frankly, it is a terrible burden, because no matter how much you say it and how true it is, no one wants to believe you.  

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/03/lehman_executives_nonchalant_a.html

He confusing intelligence with the cleverness of  prostitutes. No offense intended to prostitutes.  At least they offer something besides  begging bowls or claims of "doing God's work" like  Blankfein  did awhile back.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 21, 2010, 12:16:18 AM
A very good article expressing that more debt is sinking everyone since it is no
longer serviceable

http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2010/03/most-important-chart-of-century.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 21, 2010, 02:20:26 AM
With perfect hindsight the best stock was ORA (aura minerals) and LSG ( lake shore gold )
remark that novagold ended in 7 th place

http://rghost.net/1186816?r=3833
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 21, 2010, 06:30:38 AM
With perfect hindsight the best stock was ORA (aura minerals) and LSG ( lake shore gold )
remark that novagold ended in 7 th place
Isn't this always the case?  But I will restrict my hindsight to this:


I am more for hindsight involving coins  ;)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 21, 2010, 08:43:43 AM
That's why some people trade and dump shares at any sign of a loss or close out all of their positions daily so they don't have to sit and wait and hope a bull market will save them. I'm doing better playing NG NGD movements than buying and holding albeit I only trade 20% of the shares.

I had ORA and LSG but moved on to move obscure bets like SGSVF STVZF OKOFF (pinksheets) because I'm just a wild an crazy guy. If NG doesn't start tanking in its usual 5% moves anymore I'll really start over-weighting it.

Debt is not so bad and neither is deflation it's liquidation that's the killer.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 21, 2010, 10:30:29 AM
That's why some people trade and dump shares at any sign of a loss or close out all of their positions daily so they don't have to sit and wait and hope a bull market will save them. I'm doing better playing NG NGD movements than buying and holding albeit I only trade 20% of the shares.

I had ORA and LSG but moved on to move obscure bets like SGSVF STVZF OKOFF (pinksheets) because I'm just a wild an crazy guy. If NG doesn't start tanking in its usual 5% moves anymore I'll really start over-weighting it.

Debt is not so bad and neither is deflation it's liquidation that's the killer.


On Toronto and US markets I pay minimum 35$ comission and then 0.9% plus another
0.9% money exchange . So on a 3500$ order I pay like 1.9% one way. No pink sheets
for me . The banks are allready killing me with a thousand cuts the way it is . Taking
european registration of the shares and let the bank holding them is costing another 250$ a year . Delivery is forbidden by law since most people inheriting bonds and shares forget
to declare them . So no more physical delivery of bonds and shares only Belgian registration .

I was wild and crazy in call and put options twice . And I trippled my money twice and then lost all when I ran out of ideas . So now I use statistics in everything  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 21, 2010, 08:17:25 PM
Well, thanks for the preview August. Always wanted to know where the US will gravitate towards next. Between Euroland and Canada I can see my future clearly now. Couple more Congressional votes like on Sunday night and I'll be at yours and Bearvest's doorsteps in no time with my Klipsch speakers and a few Ebay knockoff Marilyn Monroe pics in tow.

Have some RGLD certs in holding with comutershares.com just to lazy to tell them to send them to me. RGLD normally a leader in overall mining performance has been building off a base, probably corrects first before breaking out above all time highs soon. Deflation appears to be winning until hyper-inflation kicks in, not so much an illusion as it is reality.

NG has good support around $6.85 a floor near $6 doubt Soros and Paulson allow it to go that low, could add back here and be perfectly satisfied but I'll wait a little longer.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 21, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
That wasn't the Pope was it, a few posts back? Reminds me of this guy......
(http://poietes.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/silence-of-the-lambs.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 21, 2010, 09:28:33 PM
The bad latin and text were mine

But it was the pope ( current pic ? ) in our Flemish Times newspaper
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 21, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
Is'n'it cynical that now the whole world is going broke 95% of americans will have
medical coverage by 2016 ?

Quote
The bill, which Mr Obama is expected to sign into law early this week, will extend coverage to 32m Americans now uninsured, meaning that 95 per cent of Americans will be covered by 2016. Declaring that this “isn’t radical reform, but it is major reform”, Mr Obama said the bill’s passage vindicated his decision to ignore the pundits and stick to the task.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1abaa5a6-350f-11df-9cfb-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 21, 2010, 11:27:39 PM
Let us give thanks to our savior and blessed holy wharf-hag for delivering us from the evils of Capitalism.

"Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter."

 Francisco d'Anconia--Atlas Shrugged


Have you ever noticed that obama nation sounds pretty close to abomination?

Every Forth Turning needs  an abomination to get it started.  

And so it begins.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 22, 2010, 12:31:40 AM
Let us give thanks to our savior and blessed holy wharf-hag for delivering us from the evils of Capitalism.

"Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter."

 Francisco d'Anconia--Atlas Shrugged


Have you ever noticed that obama nation sounds pretty close to abomination?

Every Forth Turning needs  an abomination to get it started.  

And so it begins.

And yet I say Money is evil only gold will set you free
Sayeth AGK aka Paint your wagon and come along  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 22, 2010, 12:35:37 AM
OK time again to look at the bleeding FDIC

Quote
Over the past two Fridays, 3/12 – 3/19/10, the FDIC announced the closings of 10 more banks, bringing this year’s total to 37. Collectively, the 10 banks had reported assets of about $4.4 billion and deposits of about $4.1 billion. 

Solidarnosk is now call loss sharing  :D Solidarity in flemish tax speak
It was first used I think in Gdansk with Lech Valessa
I was asked to sign a petition and I refused
I don't want to be on any gov stinking blacklist

http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/lossshare/index.html

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 22, 2010, 02:26:34 AM
Let us give thanks to our savior and blessed holy wharf-hag for delivering us from the evils of Capitalism.

"Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter."

 Francisco d'Anconia--Atlas Shrugged


Have you ever noticed that obama nation sounds pretty close to abomination?

Every Forth Turning needs  an abomination to get it started.  

And so it begins.

And yet I say Money is evil only gold will set you free
Sayeth AGK aka Paint your wagon and come along  ;)

Ah, but gold is money. It's real money and the  original  "One World" currency. Ben's "money" is just paper  puke backed by more paper puke. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 22, 2010, 02:52:46 AM
If you have time to read
Following is a nice article

http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2010/03/synthesis.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 22, 2010, 03:04:00 AM
See if you can get hands on some Promedia 2.1 Klipsch speakers ($100us) model  Promedia 4.1 are even better. European plug-in current versions also made. 

I looked up their site and ist says 120 volt only
I live on 220-240 volt  :D

http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/promedia-2-1-overview/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 22, 2010, 06:12:16 AM
If you have time to read
Following is a nice article

http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2010/03/synthesis.html

Thanks. I got a small start on it. It's a lot of reading but looks like it will be worth it so I'll try to finish it tomorrow.


"Paper [money] is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist,
backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce
it."--Francisco d' Anconia
Atlas Shrugged--Ayn Rand
 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 22, 2010, 06:36:22 AM
Those pesky greeks
Why can't they leave me alone ?
Now I have gone and done it ; told them no help for those that can help themselves

(http://static0.tijd.be/i/00/8f/a4.250.jpeg?ts=1269253645000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 22, 2010, 07:16:34 AM
Yeah, you might try Euro Ebay because Klipsch had an older version of Promedia 2.1 with a 230v plug, all models had a known defect at the male 6 pin DIN plug that is cured by replacing the DIN plug if you are good at soldering might help you to pickup the speakers cheap. Or maybe a converter.  4.1 good. 5.1 known for running hot in the sub panel and burning up a daughter card that can be repaired and a fan added internally.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 22, 2010, 07:33:04 AM
Yeah, you might try Euro Ebay because Klipsch had an older version of Promedia 2.1 with a 230v plug, all models had a known defect at the male 6 pin DIN plug that is cured by replacing the DIN plug if you are good at soldering might help you to pickup the speakers cheap. Or maybe a converter.  4.1 good. 5.1 known for running hot in the sub panel and burning up a daughter card that can be repaired and a fan added internally.

Soldering a din plug is no fun . I got an electronic fine point soldering cum vacuum sucking set but that does not output enough heat to ellegantly solder a din plug . It did do however 8 feet of gold relays twelve times
on a mother printboard  :) of the preamp of my phase linear
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 22, 2010, 11:54:37 AM
You're tell'in its no fun soldering DIN plugs. I threw the first three repair plugs away ($1.49 each) until I got it right (even put shrink tubes on the six connections) and only burnt myself once. I can do it now that I have the correct iron and cheap $5 alligator clip holder rig complete with magnifying glass to assist me. Made replacing a resistor recently, child's play.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 23, 2010, 02:01:19 AM
@longnine

I was loosing half a giga space in windows installer per week
Last night I could no sleep and saw windows spend half an hour at failing to
update Microsoft Suite 2003
It must have done that weekly for a year and never cleaned up

So I found a real cleaner
windows installer clean up
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301
 
With the G added at the end you only clean Orpan files
(push start and execute so that the little window pops up and copy paste the command)
 
"C:\Program Files\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" G!

And lo and behold I got 9 giga space back in 10 seconds

I had been looking for a solution on the web for three months now with a webcrawler and only found how dangerous it is to clean msi and msp files . Untill today's cleanup

This program gives the possibility to clean everything but I am not brave enough to try that one
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 23, 2010, 02:20:07 AM
You're tell'in its no fun soldering DIN plugs. I threw the first three repair plugs away ($1.49 each) until I got it right (even put shrink tubes on the six connections) and only burnt myself once. I can do it now that I have the correct iron and cheap $5 alligator clip holder rig complete with magnifying glass to assist me. Made replacing a resistor recently, child's play.


yes having the right equipment is 90% of the war won
somebody borrowed my "heavy" iron and it was returned dead
I have bought the maintenance diagrams of all my equipment so at least I know
what voltage and resistance to expect on my multi meter . Of course I cannot measure
impedance but I was able to deduct that my threeway filter on my loudspeaker had a defect capacitor and KEF send me one for free together with instructions and a special wrench
to open up the compartment
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 23, 2010, 02:21:20 AM
The battle for 1100$ gold is fierce

For the moment the 1100 plussers are winning  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 23, 2010, 03:54:07 AM
Those pesky greeks
Why can't they leave me alone ?
Now I have gone and done it ; told them no help for those that can help themselves

(http://static0.tijd.be/i/00/8f/a4.250.jpeg?ts=1269253645000)

She wondering how many other EU countries  are  greeks hiding in the waves.  "Vee need to audit everyvone of these skinny-dipping bastards"  :o

As best as I can remember it (ten years ago) this is a story Victor Niederhoffer recites in his book:

There once was a Rabbi whose parishioners paid tribute to him every year by pouring a bottle of wine into a well. One year in which the economy was very bad a parishioner did not have the money to buy  wine. He did not want the others to know that he was broke so he thought he would just take an empty wine bottle fill it with water and pour it in the well along with the others. After all with hundreds of other parishioners pouring in real wine who would know the difference? So on the day that parishioners poured their tribute  into the well, he poured in a bottle of water.

That night the Rabbi went out to the well to draw some wine for himself but when  the bucket came up all it had in it was pure water.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 23, 2010, 04:39:48 AM
Those pesky greeks
Why can't they leave me alone ?
Now I have gone and done it ; told them no help for those that can help themselves

(http://static0.tijd.be/i/00/8f/a4.250.jpeg?ts=1269253645000)

She wondering how many other EU countries  are  greeks hiding in the waves.  "Vee need to audit everyvone of these skinny-dipping bastards"  :o

As best as I can remember it (ten years ago) this is a story Victor Niederhoffer recites in his book:

There once was a Rabbi whose parishioners paid tribute to him every year by pouring a bottle of wine into a well. One year in which the economy was very bad a parishioner did not have the money to buy  wine. He did not want the others to know that he was broke so he thought he would just take an empty wine bottle fill it with water and pour it in the well along with the others. After all with hundreds of other parishioners pouring in real wine who would know the difference? So on the day that parishioners poured their tribute  into the well, he poured in a bottle of water.

That night the Rabbi went out to the well to draw some wine for himself but when  the bucket came up all it had in it was pure water.

I read Spain at least is doing like the Brits
Issuing bonds in dollars  :D
If they are lucky they got a low renting rate and can pay back with devalued dollars  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 23, 2010, 05:11:04 AM
I am not a paid writer of investment advice so I can change my mind
as much as I want
Two scenarios possible
1) the 107 days high is in
2) the cycle is extending and the high will be in circa 14 calendar days based on a
35 days subsubcycle and the chart made with 17.3.3
subcycles are often 50 or 35 days centered

Conclusion I am waiting to see whether the triangle resolves to the upside and what
slow stochs 17.3.3 does
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 23, 2010, 10:09:25 AM
The endgame is nearer then I thought

Quote
March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The 10-year U.S. swap spread turned negative for the first time on record amid rising demand for higher-yielding assets such as corporate and emerging market securities. 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aAeUwm_3hz4Y&pos=2
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 01:33:50 AM
Today we could see a resolution of the 1100 $ level ( downwards or not )

France and Germany agreed that Greece can go begging from the IMF  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 24, 2010, 02:48:34 AM

http://www.ydsusa.org/   :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 24, 2010, 02:55:41 AM
IMO, Fear will drive up metals more than anything else in the U.S. I think The 4th Turning has begun:  socialist-krapitalist  half breed zombies vs the Individual.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 03:51:39 AM
IMO, Fear will drive up metals more than anything else in the U.S. I think The 4th Turning has begun:  socialist-krapitalist  half breed zombies vs the Individual.

Belgian TV reported a remarkable court case
Somebody living in the poor part of Wallonia in an ex steel town Charleroi
Was ordered before court since he refused to pay back 10 000 euro subsidies
for having insulated his house and not lived in it for the full 7 contractual years
but only 4 years
His defense was that he had been carjacked and home jacked several times
and that he and his family had enough of the part of the country .
The judge pronounced the defense null and void and said that anybody
having and driving a jaguar in that part of the country was crying out to be
carjacked or homejacked and that flounting his riches was seeking for trouble

Specialists say that supermarkets with multi thousand euro TV's and apparel better
watch out because they are provoking the not haves in "liberating" all that equipment

The capitalist in the meantime goes to higher court because he refuses to pay back
the 10 000 euro  :D

In a sloppier part of Brussels called Anderlecht a highschool moved out because they were fed up with being molested by legal or illigal aliens and since the jails are full
the victimizers were released the next day .A zero tolerance has cleared up the neighborhood but the schoolkids rightly refuse to return . A temp controled garbage heap
stays a garbage heap

SOOOO many people come and ask asylum in Belgium and the procedure is sooo long
that all camps and army sites are allready refugee camps filled to overflowing
The Belgian government is trying to refuse renting thousands of hotelrooms to put the people that request "sanctuary"

In unrelated news a drug courier from Columbia was found dead in a banana boat
in the Antwerp harbour
because the stupid jerk did not know they transport under nitrogene ;D
Instant justice when the captain said ; boys the boat is closed turn on the nitrogene

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 24, 2010, 06:12:52 AM
April lows looking to be on time. Would feel better if $1060 gets re-checked, doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility. A break down is unwanted. Sold some CGC on the open for a few dollars more than I paid for it to have more cash at the ready.

So far miners are not being beat up on as a whole group which is a good thing. I've waited years, a few more months won't hurt as long as confidence in all things paper continues to tank. Mussolini....er, I mean our current fearless leader is out campaigning to highlight his health care victory to show how much government can interfere with your life and charge you for it in the process.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 10:05:27 AM
Hahaha
The Brits want to know why Gordon Brown sold their gold at the bottom
Do they really expect him to say the truth ? His best defense is just to say
he was stupid I think

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/7511589/Explain-why-you-sold-Britains-gold-Gordon-Brown-told.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 10:07:34 AM
April lows looking to be on time. Would feel better if $1060 gets re-checked, doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility. A break down is unwanted. Sold some CGC on the open for a few dollars more than I paid for it to have more cash at the ready.

So far miners are not being beat up on as a whole group which is a good thing. I've waited years, a few more months won't hurt as long as confidence in all things paper continues to tank. Mussolini....er, I mean our current fearless leader is out campaigning to highlight his health care victory to show how much government can interfere with your life and charge you for it in the process.

Yes it looks more and more the 107 days cycle was in early and we are heading straight for the bottom of the second 107 days cycle
I sold some more AU this morning and believe it or not the only share on which I did NOT loose money today  is Drooy  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 24, 2010, 11:57:40 AM
Looks like the whole sector takes a beating for 2 or 3 weeks now. It just pretending and reporting inflation and deflation causes and effects. Hyper-inflation possibilities are being ignored except by a few. If deflation was allowed to take its course chaos would ensue worldwide. Governments don't have the stomach for that and hyper-inflation is the only answer.

US government employees exempted themselves from the new health care laws. They are free to continue opting for a myriad of medical plans leaving the little people to foot the bill.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 24, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Looking at possible buy for more physical in the next two weeks.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 10:27:41 PM
I herewith concede the subcycle top was 3.3.10 and the subcycle was 90 days were I expected
95 days based on the december surprise and 107 days based on the 8 previous years

If I stick with 95 days we are now allready in day 23 of 95 for a sunday 6 th subhigh ( matematically since my chart tradeson sunday as well ) So the gold low is close and perhaps a bit later for miners

That means that with perfect hindsight the slow stoch setting had to be 45.3.3
Which gives a nice chart as attached
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 10:30:34 PM
This is the accompaning HUI chart
( South African mines are dancing to a different beat because the caddollar went up 15% against the euro)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 10:37:00 PM
The Greeks will have to beg money from the IMF
She did it
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPMF9TV_BRzw&pos=3

(http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iCi2XsdJmFsU)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2010, 11:17:54 PM
Just sold a slice of HMY
Getting me a warchest for the coming lows in Canadians
South Africans are peaking together with the dollars
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 25, 2010, 01:19:28 AM
Don't you have politicians who can make your investments for you? Here's one our success stories. I'm sure TARpit and AbominationCare will yield the same sterling results.

"Amtrak was sold to the public in ’71 as an investment opportunity. With a monopoly on rail traffic between America’s most populous cities…throughout the biggest economic boom in history…you’d think Amtrak couldn’t help but make money. It was supposed to turn a profit in 1974. It didn’t. Nor did it make a profit in 1975…or 1976…or 1977…1978…1979…1980…etc… All the way up to today. It never made a profit. It just lowered service levels and kept chugging along. And now the feds are still pumping more than $2 billion per year into the zombie railroad.

All Aboard!"--Bill Bonner
http://dailyreckoning.com/economic-zombies-shuffle-toward-bankruptcy/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 01:49:07 AM
Don't you have politicians who can make your investments for you? Here's one our success stories. I'm sure TARpit and AbominationCare will yield the same sterling results.

"Amtrak was sold to the public in ’71 as an investment opportunity. With a monopoly on rail traffic between America’s most populous cities…throughout the biggest economic boom in history…you’d think Amtrak couldn’t help but make money. It was supposed to turn a profit in 1974. It didn’t. Nor did it make a profit in 1975…or 1976…or 1977…1978…1979…1980…etc… All the way up to today. It never made a profit. It just lowered service levels and kept chugging along. And now the feds are still pumping more than $2 billion per year into the zombie railroad.

All Aboard!"--Bill Bonner
http://dailyreckoning.com/economic-zombies-shuffle-toward-bankruptcy/

I am allready full of apprehension and shivering with hate
Our government is going to sell the Postal Service to private enterprise
It is allready an expensive disaster
No saturday service since so long I cannot remember ; no twice a day service same timespan
Registered mail miraculously only (95% of the time) comes on tuesdays and they asked me like 35$ to ship a crucifix to the US and I had to make my own harboard box since
otherwise I would be over the limit for the length and paying like 55$ for a 15$ crucifix
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 05:23:16 AM
Our six pm flash news showed american websites calling for throwing stones through the windows of everyone who voted for the Bo care bill
Lucky for the FBI guantanamo should be nearly empty by now so they can lodge
people calling for public insurgence and disobeyance

Greece is squeeling like the roasted porkers they like because they have to pay double
the intrest rate of Germany on their loans .Like 6.5%
There used to be a time I had to pay 21% personally and nobody heard me squeeling
because they thought that was a fair intrest rate at the time

Portugal is next since one of those bloody useless rating companies gave them a downgrade to AA-
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 25, 2010, 05:24:50 AM
I herewith concede the subcycle top was 3.3.10 and the subcycle was 90 days were I expected
95 days based on the december surprise and 107 days based on the 8 previous years

If I stick with 95 days we are now allready in day 23 of 95 for a sunday 6 th subhigh ( matematically since my chart tradeson sunday as well ) So the gold low is close and perhaps a bit later for miners

That means that with perfect hindsight the slow stoch setting had to be 45.3.3
Which gives a nice chart as attached

This chart is based on trading/price 7 days a week?

Yeah, spot and miners not tracking together as a whole and miners no longer overreacting to downward movements in spot, at least not lately.

TNX (interest on ten year note) gapping up. Higher interest rates will kill what's left of the economy, add in higher taxes and fees then.....
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 25, 2010, 05:28:22 AM
The rating agencies don't downgrade until after the derivatives desk reads the memo and places bets.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 05:32:26 AM
I herewith concede the subcycle top was 3.3.10 and the subcycle was 90 days were I expected
95 days based on the december surprise and 107 days based on the 8 previous years

If I stick with 95 days we are now allready in day 23 of 95 for a sunday 6 th subhigh ( matematically since my chart tradeson sunday as well ) So the gold low is close and perhaps a bit later for miners

That means that with perfect hindsight the slow stoch setting had to be 45.3.3
Which gives a nice chart as attached

This chart is based on trading/price 7 days a week?

Yeah, spot and miners not tracking together as a whole and miners no longer overreacting to downward movements in spot, at least not lately.

TNX (interest on ten year note) gapping up. Higher interest rates will kill what's left of the economy, add in higher taxes and fees then.....

The gold chart comes from a german server and has 7 days a week trading
The Hui chart of course only 5 days trading
My 95 days nominal cycle is based on 7 days a week for HUI take 22 days a month
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 25, 2010, 05:37:34 AM
Quote
The post office lost $3.8 billion last year and is facing projected losses of as much as $7 billion this year. Other proposals for cutting losses include changes in the financing of retiree health care and closing some mail handling centers and post offices.
Postal Service Moves Toward Five-Day Delivery  (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141932505872768.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond)
The chief postal guy just got like a half million dollar bonus for a stupendous job he did last year I'm sure he'll get a million this year for offering less services for higher costs.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 05:44:44 AM
Quote
The post office lost $3.8 billion last year and is facing projected losses of as much as $7 billion this year. Other proposals for cutting losses include changes in the financing of retiree health care and closing some mail handling centers and post offices.
Postal Service Moves Toward Five-Day Delivery  (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312504575141932505872768.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond)
The chief postal guy just got like a half million dollar bonus for a stupendous job he did last year I'm sure he'll get a million this year for offering less services for higher costs.

We had like 95% next day delivery in the old days
Then the government paid for a puntuality pact and we dropped to 65% delivery next day
It can take a full week nowadays to get a lettre from Antwerp 20 kilometers away to Mechelen
Last year they closed all secondary postoffices only keeping a main postoffice and the trainstation post office . They sought and found a few newspaper stores that will accept lettres and sell postage stamps .
Nowadays I have to pay 1.60 euro to park my car and take a number and wait 15 minutes to get a blank registered lettre form and custom declaration form
And I live in a 250 000 people comunity  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 25, 2010, 05:45:33 AM
Founding fathers needed to include a clause in the Constitution whereas it was deemed that shooting politicians and bankers would result in only being charged as a misdemeanor.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 05:48:26 AM
Founding fathers needed to include a clause in the Constitution whereas it was deemed that shooting politicians and bankers would result in only being charged as a misdemeanor.

Nope the clause should be If you shoot one you are obliged to shoot another of the other party
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 05:49:09 AM
Founding fathers needed to include a clause in the Constitution whereas it was deemed that shooting politicians and bankers would result in only being charged as a misdemeanor.

Double post

Ah I am downloading at 500 kb/sec and then I get double posts from every forum
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 09:01:11 PM
On a german forum they posted the Perth mint is going to make a mini coin
One thousand kilogram with a tolerance of 25 kilogram plus or minus  ::) :o :-X
Have they gone completely of their rockers ?
How are you going to store such a coin ? or is it a stunt ?

These should be the specifications of the new coin
I can see one advantage ; you can put the side you like best upwards
and AU58 would be if not too may people walked over the coin looking
at it  ;D

http://www.goldseiten-forum.de/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=47025&h=49075284f8d0b47e920b75f135f662dfd2dc37c7
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 25, 2010, 09:03:28 PM
Ah politicians ; first he lost the local elections in a big way and then he had to bow for Merkel and still Sarkozy is forced to smile  8)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aDt.m4619dzU&pos=9

(http://static0.tijd.be/i/00/43/98.250.jpeg?ts=1227530623000)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 26, 2010, 12:24:27 AM
I cannot be bothered with 12 million $
If anybody is willing to do the paperwork I will take 10% finders fee  :D

Quote
I am contacting you concerning a deceased customer Mr. Irshad Ahmad, a Pakistani arms dealer in
Afghanistan who placed huge investment under our banks management.

He invested 27.4 million United States dollars in an investment banking portfolio of my bank
(Shanghai Pudong Development Bank) in March 2003. By the end of March, 2008, the fund was worth
31,500,000 million United States dollars at 0.35% fixed interest rate and profit from investment portfolios
based on professional advice for low market risk investments. Since this time, the bank has sent several
notices to Mr. Irshad Ahmad as customer follow up and possible investment update since he is a high profile
customer with no response. It was after thorough investigation that I got information that Irshad Ahmad and
his family had been killed during one of NATO onslaughts in Afghanistan.

Due to the sensitive nature of Ahmad business, he never wanted to live any traces to his private account and
did not nominate any next of kin to his investments and funds and also left his WILL in our care.
Mr. Irshad Ahmad died with no known relative to claim his funds and investments. This means that his fund will
be claimed by the bank and subsequently by the Chinese government if no one come to claim it.
Now, there is a total sum of 31,500,000 million United States dollars unclaimed fund in my bank that I want you
to stand as the next of kin for; and have planned out a water tight safe system for you to claim and provide you
with all necessary information for easy transfer of the fund to you without any hitch. On completion of this project,
your share will be 40% of the 31,500,000 million United States dollars. I count on your maturity and confidence
not to betray me because I am a family man and have a reputable career to protect.
I await your response.

Regards,
 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 26, 2010, 02:32:22 AM
Maybe the gubment can do that.   GulagCare is going to need funding much sooner than expected since the zombies are already stumbling into clinics.


                          
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 26, 2010, 05:22:24 AM
Germany has clearly shown we have a ECB ( european central bank) and that is the german bundesbank :D

Ok problem contained , up to Portugal now  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 26, 2010, 05:26:27 AM
In view of the HUI chart I bought one third of a position in NGD for 4.30 CAD

I guess option closing is over since they let gold go above 1100 $ again  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 26, 2010, 08:17:21 AM
I have turned down millions just in the last couple of weeks. I am just like Old Dan as all the legalities would wear me down to nothing. And seeing how I have managed to be someone's long lost heir, about ever 7 days or so and seem to be on the world's most "honest and trusted" list that everyone with money to give away or sneak out of a foreign nation knows they can count on me. I am just overwhelmed with honor but I was brought up to believe one must work for their wealth and that is how I managed to get on the world's "most honest and trusted" list in the first place!  Doing something on the shady side might make me look like a criminal, or even worse, a POLITICIAN so I have to pass the offers up! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 26, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
I did some light buying to today added back to NG NGD Trying a little MGH. Still have to get through the end of this month and the first couple of weeks in April, I think, so still have some cash on hand.

Had the grocery store clerk (single mother of two young girls) ask about a check sent to her to cash and keep a portion and wire the balance back. Wanted to know what to do. I said throw it away and never consider such an offer again, the check will bounce. She wanted to know how some one could cheat another person like that. I said, " Because they want your money?" I guess in grocery-store-land the sun always shines.

"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often attributed to P.T. Barnum.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 27, 2010, 12:35:07 AM
I did some light buying to today added back to NG NGD Trying a little MGH. Still have to get through the end of this month and the first couple of weeks in April, I think, so still have some cash on hand.

I still got South Africans to sell and emergency cash so I should be allright .

Charts ; I can only make a finished week chart on sunday because the charting service does 7 days a week on gold ; but we look very close to a bottom but like Bearvest allways says
it can be a double bottom .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 27, 2010, 12:35:53 AM
"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often attributed to P.T. Barnum.
After the newspapers reported Barnum's version of the Cardiff giant story, David Hannum was quoted by the same newspaper as saying, "There's a sucker born every minute" in reference to spectators paying to see Barnum's fake giant.
Over time, the quotation has been misattributed to P.T. Barnum himself.

The germans have a proverb
Every morning an idiot wakes up
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 27, 2010, 03:16:32 AM

The germans have a proverb
Every morning an idiot wakes up
The German's also have one that says......"A country can be judged by the quality of its proverbs".
:D ::) :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 27, 2010, 03:19:48 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S60l8HATYTI/AAAAAAAAMRQ/v7zJgwqg1WM/s1600/greenspanbuffa2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 27, 2010, 03:51:18 AM
Quote
 The strange, and stranger, world of gold digging

Unleashing the Panzers, Shermans and Dabbābas: how gold miners deploy six tactics to raise cash, excluding the mining of gold.
Author: Barry Sergeant  



http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page67?oid=101521&sn=Detail&pid=1
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 27, 2010, 04:13:29 AM
All right PYW, you don't have all the clowns. Here is one of ours:
(http://radioactiveliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/Harry-Reid-is-Ass-Clown-Political-Humor.jpg)

I love that inverse double bottom eroneously called a double top  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 27, 2010, 11:38:20 PM
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office."..............Aesop among many others.

Do you really think you appoint anybody?
I have voted all my life for people that still do not stand a chance even if they have like
22% of the votes . The others just make a coalition around them and call it a sanatery barrier
because god forbid those saying Flanders for the flemish should gain power .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on March 28, 2010, 04:44:56 AM
Appointments are nothing more than you scratch my back and I will scratch yours! On the election level I think local government or city government "might" be on the up and up but NO ONE will ever convince me they know within a matter of hours who wins the national elections and, even if they are correct in their count, we still did NOT get to elect those people. We got the rich folks that were thrown in the ring by those in power and told to pick one. Elections are a figment of our imagination and to appease folks who really do think they are free? We are all going to find out how free just as soon as Obamacare kicks in. The Feds are a smart bunch as they are going to MAKE the states raise all their taxes, as its been dumped off on them! Now instead of hating the feds we can hate our state governments? Guess we can NEVER forget who actually owns the keys to the kingdom can we?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 28, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
Again yesterday I had a thought and today Godmode prints it
We used to laugh Seven and I because we reached the same conclusion
right or wrong a day or two before godmode  :D
http://www.godmode-trader.de/nachricht/GOLD-Bist-du-auch-bullisch-Gold,a2119873.html

(http://img.godmode-trader.de/charts/3/2005/wica200.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 29, 2010, 02:54:24 AM
Did anyone ever hear the (probably now banned) story in High School about a  science teacher somewhere who while lecturing on the importance of observation in the lab was  assaulted  by a banana wielding freak who stabs him to death with the banana?

And then when they interview the students as to what they saw, the science teacher was stabbed to death by anything ranging from samurai sword to a thumb tack. But never a banana. Because that doesn't make sense. I believe the shrinks call it cognitive dissonance. And/or  a science teacher with theater envy.  ;D

This is exactly what we have with BO. All of his life has been about socialism and social justice so it won't  make any sense when I claim that there is not  a pinch of  shit worth of difference between him and George Bush. But that's my claim and I'm sticking to it.

We're still in Iraq, and Afghanistan. Every week he goes out and does some kind of sock puppet attack on banks or insurance companies but they still get their bail outs and their absurd bonuses. Oh and I believe he and his wife did rather well trading in real estate didn't they? Socialists trading in real estate? That really is "progressive!"  

Obama care? Reining in obscene profits of the insurance industry, doctors and drug makers. Don't hold your breath. Obama care is a back door bail out for the insurance cockroaches, and a new profit center for doctors and drug makers. Oh, but it will be a total gulag for "The People." That part of the socialism they got right.

Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.  

                             Appeasement you can believe in.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 29, 2010, 03:06:40 AM
I think he and Sarkozy are not going to be re elected in two years
So they can commiserate together
What did we do wrong ? not to be loved ?

Some investigative journalist found out our King also belongs to the club
of Billionaires allthough they claimed forever he had only one or two
dozen millions .

Up to today 42 banks died ; but quietly . Nobody reports the figures anymore

Oh and yesterday the contract between Ford and the Chinese Geely was signed
so the Chinese now own a 5000 men Volvo factory in Ghent Belgium
with our without the real estate it sits on ; I don't know because in Antwerp harbor
they are mostly 99 year leases from the city .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 29, 2010, 04:45:35 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.
(http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/0661391/pollyanna-pictures.html)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 29, 2010, 05:42:42 AM
I think (hope) the dollar has had it
Dollar down ; gold up in dollars
Weekly closing chart with weekly RSI14 added

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 29, 2010, 11:42:16 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S7Gia-ruFVI/AAAAAAAAMSA/nJPvftujKDg/s400/chart_states_fiscal.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 30, 2010, 02:39:24 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.
(http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/0661391/pollyanna-pictures.html)


I played it all my life. "I'm glad" I won't  believe  a single utterence about the wonders of the stock market, or the wonders of "market"  grading  or political Holy Fathers and  their  "brave new worlds."  :D

Or that ducking under a wooden desk in the first grade was going to save me from an atom bomb.  A gubment strategy so amazing only the Dept of Homeboy's Job Security could thunk of  recycling it as putting duct tape on your windows in the event that terrorists  attack.



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 30, 2010, 03:19:16 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.
(http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/0661391/pollyanna-pictures.html)


I played it all my life. "I'm glad" I won't  believe  a single utterence about the wonders of stock market, "market"  grading  and political their  "brave new worlds."  :D

Or that ducking under a wooden desk in the first grade was going to save me from a atom bomb. A strategy so amazing only the Dept of Homeboy's Job Security would recycle it as duct tape your windows in the event that terrorists launch a nerve gas attack.  

Very annoying Firefox 6.302 tries to spell check what I write in Flemish and does reactivate each time after I turned it off . So I had to install Americana(whatever that may be since it refused americanese
Ducking and covering your eyes was even taught to us in the army . And I was given two concentrick cardboard circle wheels to determine how many more minutes my soldiers
could coherently fight given the rad level
But hé installing that americanese made me learn I can get all the languages in the world installed and blow up my hard disk doing so
   
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 30, 2010, 03:23:43 AM
Today government sources in belgium conceded that inflations jumped 0.4% in one month
to 1.7% wow ; I would have estimated it at 10% since I am paying 20% more on heating gas and electricity and water and I guess like 10% more on food etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 30, 2010, 03:56:00 AM
Did this Pollyanna freaking  country really think billionaires weren't   going see the call for "soak the rich" coming and make provisions for it? The only ones who are going to get soaked are taxpayers. Billionaires have also  excluded themselves from that.
You need to play the "Glad Game" more often.
(http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/0661391/pollyanna-pictures.html)


I played it all my life. "I'm glad" I won't  believe  a single utterence about the wonders of stock market, "market"  grading  and political their  "brave new worlds."  :D

Or that ducking under a wooden desk in the first grade was going to save me from a atom bomb. A strategy so amazing only the Dept of Homeboy's Job Security would recycle it as duct tape your windows in the event that terrorists launch a nerve gas attack.  

Very annoying Firefox 6.302 tries to spell check what I write in Flemish and does reactivate each time after I turned it off . So I had to install Americana(whatever that may be since it refused americanese
Ducking and covering your eyes was even taught to us in the army . And I was given two concentrick cardboard circle wheels to determine how many more minutes my soldiers
could coherently fight given the rad level
But hé installing that americanese made me learn I can get all the languages in the world installed and blow up my hard disk doing so
  

I found it very exciting in the North Atlantic. Can you tell by the photo?  :D Sorry, can't get it to hotlink for some reason.
(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3132&g2_serialNumber=1)

A "sea story" I once heard was  that in the 60's the Navy  sent a Fast Frigate out to launch a ASROC (Anti Submarine Rocket) with a nuclear dept charge on it.  They wanted to see if it  would survive the shock wave.  Supposedly it did but it had so many cracks in the hull they just scraped it. I don't know how true it is, most sea stories are just that.   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 30, 2010, 04:35:48 AM
Right click on the photo and you get a pop up window with info etc select info then in the next window you got location etc
Put your cursor before the first h of http at location and keep the mouse button down moving the cursor right all the way out of the window till the very end of the link because the link is soooo long . Now everything should be highlighted = selected
copy and paste between img brackets


(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3132&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 30, 2010, 06:06:54 AM
I couldn't get the img link to work either when I was trying to post a Pollyanna pic link.

When your word check red lines just right click and tell it to add it to your dictionary.

US dollar traveling in the upper part of the channel means it should remain strong for the time being or at least until California begins another budget-gap-fix in April and sends the shortfall invoice to Washington D C.

  My Dad started out as a radio man aboard ship (could pick Morse code out of the air even some encoded and type over hundred words a minute on a manual typewriter) then retired as a naval aviator.
  He told me once where he was test piloting the forerunner to auto-pilots, of course in its crude form, where he would flip a switch on and a solenoid/servo motor would allow hydraulic control of flaps, rudder, etc. for a so many degree bank turn or whatever switch off the plane arrives back to straight and level except one time a solenoid stayed open while the rest functioned properly sending him into a flat spin. He said by the time he recovered (I remember him going through the motions of trying to fight centrifugal force with two hands on the stick to get the plane to dive out of the spin) he could count the blades of grass on the ground.
  So happens he had a photographer in the backseat at the time but couldn't raise a response from him because he had passed out with the G forces. Photographer back on the ground swore he would never fly again.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 30, 2010, 06:19:22 AM
Mozilla Firefox installed in Flemish and I have to add all libraries like French and German etc . I do not seem to be able to turn it off completely
It just red lined because I typed French with a small f and it refused redlined
in one word  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 30, 2010, 07:17:23 AM
Right click on the photo and you get a pop up window with info etc select info then in the next window you got location etc
Put your cursor before the first h of http at location and keep the mouse button down moving the cursor right all the way out of the window till the very end of the link because the link is soooo long . Now everything should be highlighted = selected
copy and paste between img brackets


(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3132&g2_serialNumber=1)

Yes your right again. I hadn't hot linked something for at least a week and have to re-train.  :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on March 30, 2010, 07:38:37 AM
I just get bigger hard drives since I store a lot. Last one was Western Digital  650gig 'green' which means it sleeps most of the time (doesn't spin) until you make a request of something off it and it wakes up a little slow until it is up and running like any normal drive actually quite quick with large on board cache. Should have bought the 2 terabyte drive since the gig-to-price ratio is well worth it. Have 1.5 terabyte as it is with 3 drives in use.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 30, 2010, 08:58:26 AM
I just get bigger hard drives since I store a lot. Last one was Western Digital  650gig 'green' which means it sleeps most of the time (doesn't spin) until you make a request of something off it and it wakes up a little slow until it is up and running like any normal drive actually quite quick with large on board cache. Should have bought the 2 terabyte drive since the gig-to-price ratio is well worth it. Have 1.5 terabyte as it is with 3 drives in use.

I got a 70 giga download limit per month so I got now 2 one tera byte drives from Toshiba
500 giga from omega and 250 giga from Philips and 150 giga internal on my portable desktop replacing computer .
My previous system had 40 giga all together  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 08:18:40 PM
Status in three time frames

Monthly gold candles
candle 5 of 11 ( or 10 ) started
Picture consistent with a turn at midpoint without left or right shift indicated sofar
Neutral
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 08:41:10 PM
Monthly HUI
Oversold

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 08:44:27 PM
Gold weekly
Neutral in the 90-105 day cycle
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 08:48:10 PM
Hui weekly neutral in the 90-107 day cycle
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 08:51:07 PM
Gold daily based on 90 days

Double stoch bottom
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 08:56:56 PM
HUI daily based on 90 days
Bottom in or close

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 09:01:37 PM
Gold daily 30 days
The 90-105 day cycle is divided in three subcycles that are often 35 or 50 days nominal  alternating
This chart based on a first cycle of circa 30 days shows we are shooting up in this timeframe
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
HUI daily 30 days

A tradable hight should be coming
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 01, 2010, 02:19:42 AM
Sold another slice of AU at 28.45 euro and will keep the half position which is now at
11.33 euro pro share  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 01, 2010, 03:00:05 AM
Sold another slice of Harmony 7.10 euro
Keep half position at 6.26 euro
This makes a nice cash position to be used for trading
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 01, 2010, 05:23:18 PM
I guess my one o'clock post got lost in hyper-space. Said RGLD started leading since yesterday and NG NGD and a few others closed nearer their highs so might run for a few days on this move except a lot of them gaped on open which usually means a revisit of those gaps.  Manipulators must plan it that way.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 01, 2010, 08:57:44 PM
I guess my one o'clock post got lost in hyper-space. Said RGLD started leading since yesterday and NG NGD and a few others closed nearer their highs so might run for a few days on this move except a lot of them gaped on open which usually means a revisit of those gaps.  Manipulators must plan it that way.

Do you have an idea why Minefinders has stopped moving allover the place and stopped moving mainly up ?

I have moving to a different tune and not moving much
Anglogold, Harmony, Drooy, Tanzanian
I have bottombuilders
Kinross , Yamana and chartwise they look identical so I guess one of the two has to go
I am only happy with
Great basin gold , Oceana,New gold

This tells me I need to get more dynamical since the last three were all three added the last few months . Any suggestions what to look at next ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 02, 2010, 12:26:02 AM
Road Rage is becoming quite a sport here in the U.S.
http://www.foxnewsradio.com/2010/03/26/man-enraged-by-obama-bumper-sticker-rams-his-suv-into-car/

Yesterday BO gave his zombies the  "well actually" April Fool's joke, saying   without Health Care reform the United States would go bankrupt. Maybe his zombies could waddle up to the window and  look outside.   We already are bankrupted.

But the same federal government that took over Penn Central in 1970 and renamed it Amtrak and told everyone that it would be a "good investment" is going to do even better with an eleven trillion dollar industry? Excuse me if I'm skeptical but we're still waiting, 40 years, later for Amtrak to make money.
Government and "good investment?"  That's the oxymoron of the eon.

Helpful hint Mr. President: As even a 10 year old operating a lemon aid stand knows, you must produce something to make money.  Shoveling dirt back and forth in a field and propping up  retards does the opposite.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 01:22:52 AM
I lost the link but the merican guberment took over a whorehouse and could not make money
That says it all doesn'it ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 02, 2010, 02:12:17 AM
AIG?

I think I remember something about the state of Nevada taking over a brothel once and losing money. But why not? A state is just a mini-me of the fed as kalifornia constantly demonstrates.

I ask people to name something that the fed can do right. Anything big or small. And the only they can come up with is fielding an army. I agree that they can do that well or at least better than other countries but it's still the economy that supports the military.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 03:08:58 AM
AIG?

I think I remember something about the state of Nevada taking over a brothel once and losing money. But why not? A state is just a mini-me of the fed as kalifornia constantly demonstrates.

I ask people to name something that the fed can do right. Anything big or small. And the only they can come up with is fielding an army. I agree that they can do that well or at least better than other countries but it's still the economy that supports the military.

And they have been pestering europe for more men for longer
Germany and France are still obliging . The Dutch puked and the government fell
The Belgians typically said ok because they are fighting again over mayors that refuse
to respect the flemish laws in a flemish town themselves being french speaking
( 3 of them and they make the news day after day )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 03:14:53 AM
I love those German goldbugs that MUST sell gold because their girlfriend or woman NEEDS something asap . I bought a mex onza at melt  ;D
Not on ebay but on the forum Danke Schoen

Under a magnifying glass the left breast is completely articulated  :D
Fine work of engraving allthough the position seems somewhat precarious
I hope she does not fall  ::)

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3136&g2_serialNumber=1)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 02, 2010, 06:01:05 AM
Don't worry, if she falls she has wings. Nice find.

This government is pretty good at warring esp. with this volunteer army. Our current commander in chief will reverse that also.

Whoever said government was about running a business and  making money? It's all about power and control with some money thrown in. Examples are endless.

Miners are like any other stock. You need good management and resources with expenses not to exceed profits near or long term. If you are just treading water lately then you are doing okay since the sector is constantly manipulated as if gold is useless. Again, only the producers or on the verge of producing show any signs of strength like NGD. You would be better off just to hold through for a few more months for a conformation of trend into autumn if confirmation fails then you can begin worrying. RGLD sits on piles of gold and silver, they don't even own a shovel. NG doesn't produce but keeps adding reserves because they keep drilling exploratory holes and finding more fruitful earth albeit some finds 50% shared. Most miners own lots of shovels and keep drilling but come up dry or are in the process of depleting reserves.

I re-weight positions by selling off under-performers, wait for some lows then load up on producers like NGD. NG I still consider a long shot but playing it's 5% moves all time keeps me adding its shares slowly but surely. I've lightened up on Capital Gold and Great Basin lately moving into NGD or sitting on the cash. Watching FRG NXG trying out GSS have some TGB,  IAG looking ripe, small position in HL. Lots of take over targets that run up until assimilated, nice if you catch the right train.

Look at Thursday's biggest gainers by percentage and you'll get a good idea of which miners are attracting interest but don't be surprised that they get beat up on again soon (another buying opportunity). Any large upward movements I'm inclined to take profits during this trading range just to get back in on some lows. Even my piece of shit PMPIX was up over 6% that one I can't wait to unload but hold for long term tax advantage when I do sell.

I keep saying TRE doesn't have the gold reserves it needs to make the big time as a royalty company. Things could change. Probably run up anyway as the Chinese tease it but I seem to be doing better elsewhere than playing that drama.

1% chance hyper-inflation doesn't take hold and a total melt down in everything everywhere occurs including gold.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 09:24:57 AM
Quote
If you are just treading water lately then you are doing okay since the sector is constantly manipulated as if gold is useless. Again, only the producers or on the verge of producing show any signs of strength like NGD. You would be better off just to hold through for a few more months for a conformation of trend into autumn if confirmation fails then you can begin worrying.   

I was in the run up 40 years ago to 850 $ So I know what should get me worried
Seven and I agree that 2012 is the earliest for a blow off ; probably much later 2016 or so.
Basically  I follow the 12 candle cycle which is still up and up . Everything in between is
show .
I am into mines and gold since 1999 and in the first 5 years the South Africans paid more
dividend then my bank deposits and the mines kept going up . The dividends are over and the potential seems over too ; apart from Drooy which is a lottery ticket . If the price of gold goes up 50% in one year Drooy may perform miracles.
 
Belgium has no capital gains taxes ; so I can reposition as I like ; when I like . I already got out 40% of the South Africans the last few weeks and into New Gold
I think from now on we got to start going up because the 12 candle cycle is in the 6 th candle and the bottom should be in or close at midpoint on the montlies
I am making some money because most of my miners are in Canadian dollars and those are up 15% against the euro abetting the pain of miners gone down 10-20 % since its peak
Also gold in euro is near its all time high and for the past 10 years my return on gold is better then my return on shares ( I am a good gold timer and a passable share picker but I should close out and rotate sooner )

I want to move into better performing miners without going to the pink sheets like the german forum is doing . My best pick this year was Oceana with 50% in two months.
But it is maxed out in all time frames now ( although this can keep going on with slow stochs)

I will look at the stocks you mentioned but on chartbasis I rejected NG allready several times . I am tracking Osisko and Aura .

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on April 02, 2010, 01:11:37 PM
After reading through the most recent posts I have decided that all states should legalize prostitution and tax the devil out of their profits. It would be just like all the legalized gambling we now cope with! And quite honestly it would be exactly the same thing. The state makes a fortune in taxes and the little guy always gets screwed!!! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 02, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
After I took some time to look at MFN facts and figures from their web site they just don't have the reserves (couple million ounces known) necessary to hit the big time right now. They claim no hedging but pay RGLD 3% or recently $30 for every ounce along with other conventional financing costs, they just can't bear their own costs without help. They predicted some targets last year and missed which is being reflected in the share price now. They are doing everything right like making nice with the locals but mining output is going to be limited, They need to be at least self sufficient.

Oceanagold has near 6 mil oz of gold in the ground with maybe 3 mil more laying around somewhere with good monthly production. They are admittedly hedged so they might reach a plateau and get stuck there until they payoff that book entry.

GOLD RESOURCE CORP (with an assist by HOCHSCHILD MINING) began production on near surface gold claiming $100 an ounce costs and own 5 properties 100%. Guys seem to prefer this one over MFN, I don't know, I can only find 1mil in stated resources and $27mil lost last year but hey, following herd mentality couldn't hurt much until that cliff comes into view, at least according to corresponding share prices.

Back to NG with 18 mil ounces known with a total of 36 mil ounces untapped between them with ABX as a half partner, NG's part is to cover costs in exploring and drilling with ABX covering the eventual mining costs when production finally begins. 50/50 split of net proceeds.
You can see where 36 trumps a couple million or even 6 or 8 million ounces.

IAG still looks good for the long haul.

As spot rises every miner does better except the hedged ones but the mines already free and clear now will be the real winners.

If you can't decide on a miner, buy some more gold coins.
 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 11:13:50 PM
After reading through the most recent posts I have decided that all states should legalize prostitution and tax the devil out of their profits. It would be just like all the legalized gambling we now cope with! And quite honestly it would be exactly the same thing. The state makes a fortune in taxes and the little guy always gets screwed!!! ;D

Euh are you sure they gets screwed ?
A lot of cheap houses here only do handjobs   ::)
Taxes don't bother me ; I was raised with them ; they are like lice if you never knew better
you just scratch  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 11:41:26 PM
After I took some time to look at MFN facts and figures from their web site they just don't have the reserves (couple million ounces known) necessary to hit the big time right now. They claim no hedging but pay RGLD 3% or recently $30 for every ounce along with other conventional financing costs, they just can't bear their own costs without help. They predicted some targets last year and missed which is being reflected in the share price now. They are doing everything right like making nice with the locals but mining output is going to be limited, They need to be at least self sufficient.

Oceanagold has near 6 mil oz of gold in the ground with maybe 3 mil more laying around somewhere with good monthly production. They are admittedly hedged so they might reach a plateau and get stuck there until they payoff that book entry.

GOLD RESOURCE CORP (with an assist by HOCHSCHILD MINING) began production on near surface gold claiming $100 an ounce costs and own 5 properties 100%. Guys seem to prefer this one over MFN, I don't know, I can only find 1mil in stated resources and $27mil lost last year but hey, following herd mentality couldn't hurt much until that cliff comes into view, at least according to corresponding share prices.

Back to NG with 18 mil ounces known with a total of 36 mil ounces untapped between them with ABX as a half partner, NG's part is to cover costs in exploring and drilling with ABX covering the eventual mining costs when production finally begins. 50/50 split of net proceeds.
You can see where 36 trumps a couple million or even 6 or 8 million ounces.

IAG still looks good for the long haul.

As spot rises every miner does better except the hedged ones but the mines already free and clear now will be the real winners.

If you can't decide on a miner, buy some more gold coins. 

Thanks for the info
Though I got an MBA from Northwestern Univ 1981 I swore never to look at fundamental funnies because they are so easy to manipulate but to look at charts first and second and third and then maybe read the homepage to make sure I am not buying a watch manufacturer such as Omega gold  :P

MFN I bought 6 months before their first goldpouring at some mine and traded a dozen times my cost is 3.63 cad at present so I don't worry allthough the chart now looks indifferent as a newslettre writer I would rate it a hold

Oceana as reported by Kitco closed out all their hedgies and that is probably why they went up 50% when only insiders knew and chartreaders like me ; I am at 1.30 cad average and happy ; a strong hold for today

NG got rated 3.5 by Kitco ( sell) and way overbought in all time frames by me
My rating wait and see

I never seriously looked at I am gold  :)

I have been trucking to the money exchangers that sell gold at spot with a spread of 3% for for 4 years starting at 300 euro per ounce and it is now 850 per ounce
Then I started buying at melt on the bay
Now I am buying from german forum members

I am starting to think of starting to sell at 1200 euro those unsightly Krugers and Eagles and Maples and the Nuggets with slide and fingerprints ( that is the Roos)
My wife stated that I probably will die with most unique goldcoins still unsold  ???

I hope when Seven's mother finally  died he can help her sell the coins when I am dead
since I would hate some scrounger to get them 40% below value because the widow has to pay 30% tax on everything  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 11:53:24 PM
Quote
Looting Main Street
How the nation’s biggest banks are ripping off American cities with the same predatory deals that brought down Greece
MATT TAIBBIPosted Mar 31, 2010 8:15 AM 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/32906678/looting_main_street/1
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 11:54:39 PM
Quote
  California’s last auto plant shuts its doors
Apr 1 02:26 PM US/Eastern

FREMONT, Calif. (AP) – The last car has rolled off the production lines at California’s sole auto plant.

Workers are trickling out of the New United Motor Manufacturing plant in Fremont as they complete their tasks and the plant readies to shut down. 

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9EQEAHG0&show_article=1
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 11:55:29 PM
You want the truth?

- March Unemployment Rose to 9.8% Net of Census Hiring
- Official Reporting: BLS U-3 Held at 9.7%, U-6 Rose to 16.9%,
SGS Rose to 21.7%
-  March Employment Gain of 162,000 Was 114,000 Net of Temporary Census Hiring
- Economic-Deterioration Signal Intensifies

"No. 289: March Employment and Unemployment, Liquidity Crisis"
http://www.shadowstats.com/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2010, 11:58:55 PM
Bonny and Clyde new style

He gets 40 virgins from allah  ;D
I wonder what she gets ?  :P
Probably never to be sold again or cut up and sewn up or bartered for two camels ?
( yoh pistol buffs ; can anybody tell me what funny pistol he is holding ?)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/40b2b7e8-3e84-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.html

(http://media.ft.com/cms/7be453c8-3eaf-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.jpg)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2010, 12:13:59 AM
There is a statistical theory that says that everything tend to go to the average
Very good companies fall asleep and pocket the bonusses and go to down whilst very bad companies hire better mgt and try harder and go up

I tried to apply this to goldmines and failed miserably because only Tanzanian obliged
It was 50 weeks plus nr 1 and fell to last position and now is moving back up to the average

Another good idea gone to hell

http://www2.barchart.com/sectors.asp?sec=mining~-~gold.sec&level=2&title=Mining+-+Gold
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 03, 2010, 06:06:10 AM
Hedging or not depends on the definition usually hedges less than a year out are not considered hedging just creative financing. Trouble any way you look at it on a large upward movement in gold price.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2010, 06:16:34 AM
Hedging or not depends on the definition usually hedges less than a year out are not considered hedging just creative financing. Trouble any way you look at it on a large upward movement in gold price.

The banksters have clouded the most simple things

Any option call or put , any future long or short , any forward contract at a fixed price is some kind of betting or edging .

But I believe Sinclair when he says new players have no choice , play the bankster game or don't play at all  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2010, 06:48:25 AM
Looks like I will have to look at Linear again
Buy advice and turnaround from loss to gain if true

http://www.kitco.com/ind/matlack/mar302010_juniors.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 03, 2010, 12:20:02 PM
There is a statistical theory that says that everything tend to go to the average
Very good companies fall asleep and pocket the bonusses and go to down whilst very bad companies hire better mgt and try harder and go up

I tried to apply this to goldmines and failed miserably because only Tanzanian obliged
It was 50 weeks plus nr 1 and fell to last position and now is moving back up to the average

Another good idea gone to hell

http://www2.barchart.com/sectors.asp?sec=mining~-~gold.sec&level=2&title=Mining+-+Gold

Yes, I think the exact phrase for today is that "everything reverts to the mean."--unless  a sugar daddy in dc  forces taxpayers or would be short sellers to prop up the rot.  

But all the same stuff that Sun Tzu said 5,000 years ago.   8)
"Strength becomes weakingss,
weakness becomes strength."



I never did get that martyr and 77 virgins stuff. What is a ghost   suppose to do with 77 virgins, wish real hard?   :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on April 03, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
I am still wondering what the 77 virgins did to deserve such a fate? ;D And I sure would like to know how old they are as that sure is a lot of untouched women isn't it? I wonder what kind of resources a guy will need in the afterlife to take care of so many?
Basically this is typical of what government and religion can do with generations of unchecked propaganda and brain washing. Remove educational opportunities for the masses and you have total mind control.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 03, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
Bonny and Clyde new style

He gets 40 virgins from allah  ;D
I wonder what she gets ?  :P
Probably never to be sold again or cut up and sewn up or bartered for two camels ?
( yoh pistol buffs ; can anybody tell me what funny pistol he is holding ?)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/40b2b7e8-3e84-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.html

(http://media.ft.com/cms/7be453c8-3eaf-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.jpg)

I had no clue but I asked a board with knowledgeable and varied backgrounds here is the reply.....

Quote
pimp has full-auto capable Stechkin 1948 APS, whore - a Makarov 1951 PM


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2010, 11:39:18 PM
After 500 pocketbooks the Makarov rings a bell as a classic
The other I have never seen nor heard off
Anyway if you want to go fully auto you need the burp gun like All Capone's men were using and Omar Shariff . But I prefer the gangster virsion with the slide on the side and
not on the top .
I have book with the best guns of Europe ( I am not allowed to buy)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2010, 11:40:56 PM
I am still wondering what the 77 virgins did to deserve such a fate? ;D And I sure would like to know how old they are as that sure is a lot of untouched women isn't it? I wonder what kind of resources a guy will need in the afterlife to take care of so many?
Basically this is typical of what government and religion can do with generations of unchecked propaganda and brain washing. Remove educational opportunities for the masses and you have total mind control.

In my days the definition of a virgin was a 12 year old that could run faster then her 13 year old brother . I wonder what it is now . ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2010, 11:44:21 PM
A 21 and 15 year old killed Terrablanche
They RISK to be accused of murder
Zuma is calling for calm  >:(
I sold half of my South Africans the last two weeks ; it is time to sell more eg all except the lottery ticket Drooy

(http://static3.tijd.be/i/00/92/f3.250.jpeg?ts=1270372136000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2010, 11:51:56 PM
Did you see Schippi
NG on nr 2

http://www.selectsectors.com/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 04, 2010, 12:16:25 AM
Bonny and Clyde new style

He gets 40 virgins from allah  ;D
I wonder what she gets ?  :P
Probably never to be sold again or cut up and sewn up or bartered for two camels ?
( yoh pistol buffs ; can anybody tell me what funny pistol he is holding ?)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/40b2b7e8-3e84-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.html

(http://media.ft.com/cms/7be453c8-3eaf-11df-a706-00144feabdc0.jpg)



Looks like a toy to me.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on April 04, 2010, 12:39:08 AM
Kind of look like a toy to me. They could do much better by buying airsofts from China and painting the orange end black. My little guy has an AR-15 that looks exactly like the real thing other than the orange marked muzzle. A little black paint could get a guy killed. If I remember correctly we have had two paintballers killed here in the states when someone called the cops about a man with a gun. The paintballer is looking for other paintballers with a paint ball gun and a cop is looking for a man with a gun. Both of them will see just that in low light but one is using real bullets. Guess thats why I wouldn't play paintball outside in a city.
I don't know if we are supposed to be impressed by the photo? They just as well have a fake gun as they won't be using it. The so called leaders will strap a bomb onto the chest of their patsy for maximum results. You never have to worry about your bomber giving up any information when he/she uses such a weapon so the masterminds (leaders) don't fear too many reprisals. Its called tying up loose ends?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 04, 2010, 12:55:00 AM
Kind of look like a toy to me. They could do much better by buying airsofts from China and painting the orange end black. My little guy has an AR-15 that looks exactly like the real thing other than the orange marked muzzle. A little black paint could get a guy killed. If I remember correctly we have had two paintballers killed here in the states when someone called the cops about a man with a gun. The paintballer is looking for other paintballers with a paint ball gun and a cop is looking for a man with a gun. Both of them will see just that in low light but one is using real bullets. Guess thats why I wouldn't play paintball outside in a city.
I don't know if we are supposed to be impressed by the photo? They just as well have a fake gun as they won't be using it. The so called leaders will strap a bomb onto the chest of their patsy for maximum results. You never have to worry about your bomber giving up any information when he/she uses such a weapon so the masterminds (leaders) don't fear too many reprisals. Its called tying up loose ends?

No it is called Russian type brainwashing
I am very interested in hypnosis and read several one thousand pages research reports on the subject . The Russians had the most advanced experiments like in everything since they do not hesitate to experiment with the real people . So they know the lethal 50/50 levels at which half of the people die of exposure to dangerous chemicals

An hypnotized Russian still refused to shoot and kill a Russian officer. Only when the idea was implanted that the Russian officer was not a real Russian officer but a hoodlum with a costume did the hypnotized Russian shoot and kill his officer .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 04, 2010, 01:04:10 AM
Subject ;miners
Subject buy hold sell signals
Everybody knows that in monthly, weekly, daily the signals can be contradictory
I just finished a 5.5.3 monthly and a 7.3.3 weekly slow stoch analysis

Ang : Buy ; Sell
HMY: Buy ; Sell
Drooy Sell ; Buy

K ; Buy , Buy ( I am surprised )
Yri ; Hold ; Buy
MFL hold ; hold
Tnx topping ; hold
GBG sell; sell ( I am surprised )
OCG Topping : hold
NGD Buy; hold

Osisko Topping; hold
NGX Buy; sell
Linear Buy, hold
Aura Hold ; sell

Conclusion continue buying NGD : look for exit on TNX and GBG and OCG
add Linear to next buy list

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 04, 2010, 05:46:27 AM
That site monitoring NG shows why I rely on NG to swing in price so I can execute sell high and buy low. Besides gold in the ground NG/ABX properties in Alaska have the second largest known copper reserves in the world.

Also interesting is the 10yr USAGX comparison chart to SPX which might as well be a  PMPIX chart comparison. USAGX is a (military related) members only true buy and hold mutual fund I've owned at times over the years which they get upset if you trade it and can kick you out of the fund if buying in and out to often unlike the made for trading PMPIX Pro Fund (up to $80 a trade charge). I called the USAGX fund manager once but got an underling and asked why the fund didn't hold more RGLD and gave the fundamental reasons why it should along with a few others miners, I swear they re-weighted their holdings after the subordinate said he'd pass on the information to the fund manager.

SA reserves are depleting, only a lotto ticket bet when hoping for higher spot prices.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 04, 2010, 05:52:20 AM
I don't know if I'd do a complete exit on those stocks but maybe just lighten up, you just never know when a buyout is in the works. I wonder sometimes if it's not more of a popularity contest rating when charting.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 04, 2010, 06:32:48 AM
I don't know if I'd do a complete exit on those stocks but maybe just lighten up, you just never know when a buyout is in the works. I wonder sometimes if it's not more of a popularity contest rating when charting.

Insider buying and lettres recommendations and press articles ; there are guys buying and selling on those ; not me .
I expressed myself badly
Up to now I have a base of 50% of all shares beyond which I did not sell down . The rest between 50% and 120% is my trading range. Allthough I am mighty tempted to liquidate AU and HMY
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 04, 2010, 05:47:02 PM
Quote
....There is evidence that previous earthquakes have shoved the island upward in the past, said Rietbrock.

          I'm not surprised that Santa Maria Island may have moved upward.
          In fact, I expect ever more and ever stronger earthquakes as our
          magnetic field strength decreases. Here's what I said about that in
         "Not by Fire but by Ice" (p. 195)

           Earthquakes and rising land; two tectonic processes in phase with
          equinoctial precession (and ice ages).

          For proof, look at Barbados, the easternmost island in the Lesser
          Antilles in the Caribbean. Barbados is terraced. From the air, the
          terraces look like a huge flight of stairs.

          Two theories exist as to what formed the terraces. Each theory
          begins with the same premise, that the island periodically rose from
          the sea during a major earthquake. Each time it rose, the first theory
          goes, one reef died and a new one grew at a lower point on the island.
          The second theory holds that each terrace was carved from a  single
          large fossil reef. Each time the island rose, wave action sculpted a
          new terrace.    

          In 1965, Professor Robley K. Matthews of Brown University had the
          terraces dated. The lowest one dated at 82,000 years old, the second
          one dated at 103,000, and the top one dated at 122,000. The steps
          had been sculpted in sync with precession of the equinoxes. (Broecker
          et al., 1968)

          Other parts of the world also rose in sync with precession. Each terrace
          on New Guinea's Huon Peninsula, for example, formed when it abruptly
          rose above sea level during a major earthquake in sync with precession
          (Bloom, Broecker, Chappell, Matthews, and Mesolella). The Florida Keys
          also rose in sync with precession (Broecker and Thurber). So did the
          Bahamas and the Ryukyu Islands. Other rapidly rising reefs have been
          dated at 66,000 ± 4,000 years, others at 48,000 years—all in sync with
          equinoctial precession. Even the exposed beds in southern Scandinavia
          south of Göteburg, which uplifted about 10,000 years ago, rose in sync
          with precession.

          And the pace is picking up. "The rates of modern movements are
          significantly greater than the average rates over the past 130 my,"
          said Officer and Drake. "These movements may be episodic," said
          Officer, "with a cycle as short as 10,000 years." (Tectonics, 1985)

          What would make huge chunks of land halfway around the world
          from each other rise in phase with equinoctial precession?

          Electromagnetic forces—unleashed by magnetic reversals.


See entire article:
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/chilean-quake-shifted-earths-axis-nasa-scientist -20100302-peqe.html

I was rockn'&rollin' here San Diego for at least 40 seconds then other smaller quakes and aftershocks followed up triggered the main 7.2 quake.
Recent quakes in southern California. (http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/116-33.htm)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 04, 2010, 05:49:25 PM
China Steel Group Urges Iron-Ore Boycott (http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/10717690/1/china-steel-group-urges-iron-ore-boycott.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA)
Quote
....Some observers have already called the bluff. "Given the Chinese reliance on the seaborne market, we calculate that the country will need to import approximately 70% of the material that it consumes in 2010," wrote Anthony Rizzuto, mining and metals analyst at Dahlman Rose. "We believe that it is unlikely that Chinese mills will be able to adhere to this request."

Last week, BHP Billiton and Vale both struck supply deals with steelmakers in Japan and Korea, increasing the price of iron ore by 90% (to $105 a ton) from the 2009 level. Moreover, the miners were able to convince their customers to move to a quarterly pricing system, ending the industry's 40-year reliance on an annual contract that locked in prices for a year.

The moves have pit iron-ore suppliers against their steelmaking customers. A European steel group, Eurofer, has also protested the pricing moves by lodging complaints with the European Union anti-competition regulators.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 04, 2010, 06:38:58 PM
Looks like they have been making our garbage money out of real garbage.
(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3137&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 04, 2010, 07:25:14 PM
Mogambo is on a silver kick again and it's anti-bacteria properties. Too bad it doesn't kill corporate and social parasites, then we'd really be on to something   ;D
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-silver-boom-is-coming/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Nighthawk on April 04, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
Ha-ha!   :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 12:31:05 AM
Stockmarkets here are closed for Eastermonday
and yet gold and dollar are up to make for a close all time high in goldeuro
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 12:33:32 AM
Quote
....There is evidence that previous earthquakes have shoved the island upward in the past, said Rietbrock.

          I'm not surprised that Santa Maria Island may have moved upward.
          In fact, I expect ever more and ever stronger earthquakes as our
          magnetic field strength decreases. Here's what I said about that in
         "Not by Fire but by Ice" (p. 195)

           Earthquakes and rising land; two tectonic processes in phase with
          equinoctial precession (and ice ages).

          For proof, look at Barbados, the easternmost island in the Lesser
          Antilles in the Caribbean. Barbados is terraced. From the air, the
          terraces look like a huge flight of stairs.

          Two theories exist as to what formed the terraces. Each theory
          begins with the same premise, that the island periodically rose from
          the sea during a major earthquake. Each time it rose, the first theory
          goes, one reef died and a new one grew at a lower point on the island.
          The second theory holds that each terrace was carved from a  single
          large fossil reef. Each time the island rose, wave action sculpted a
          new terrace.   

          In 1965, Professor Robley K. Matthews of Brown University had the
          terraces dated. The lowest one dated at 82,000 years old, the second
          one dated at 103,000, and the top one dated at 122,000. The steps
          had been sculpted in sync with precession of the equinoxes. (Broecker
          et al., 1968)

          Other parts of the world also rose in sync with precession. Each terrace
          on New Guinea's Huon Peninsula, for example, formed when it abruptly
          rose above sea level during a major earthquake in sync with precession
          (Bloom, Broecker, Chappell, Matthews, and Mesolella). The Florida Keys
          also rose in sync with precession (Broecker and Thurber). So did the
          Bahamas and the Ryukyu Islands. Other rapidly rising reefs have been
          dated at 66,000 ± 4,000 years, others at 48,000 years—all in sync with
          equinoctial precession. Even the exposed beds in southern Scandinavia
          south of Göteburg, which uplifted about 10,000 years ago, rose in sync
          with precession.

          And the pace is picking up. "The rates of modern movements are
          significantly greater than the average rates over the past 130 my,"
          said Officer and Drake. "These movements may be episodic," said
          Officer, "with a cycle as short as 10,000 years." (Tectonics, 1985)

          What would make huge chunks of land halfway around the world
          from each other rise in phase with equinoctial precession?

          Electromagnetic forces—unleashed by magnetic reversals.


See entire article:
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/chilean-quake-shifted-earths-axis-nasa-scientist -20100302-peqe.html

I was rockn'&rollin' here San Diego for at least 40 seconds then other smaller quakes and aftershocks followed up triggered the main 7.2 quake.
Recent quakes in southern California. (http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/116-33.htm)


I am just reading fingerprints of the gods which is all about equinoctial precession.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 03:35:20 AM
Houston we have lift off
( and if you do not believe that I will tell another story)
But I like the commods rising ; please goat make the gap between your hands larger
( and smile )

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRhXhw11qVPw&pos=1
(http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iWZBuSxZEP4U)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 04:43:42 AM
Now this is more like it

(http://static0.tijd.be/i/00/93/08.250.jpeg?ts=1270455956000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 05, 2010, 06:08:33 AM
Quote
I am just reading fingerprints of the gods which is all about equinoctial precession.

I was watching a special, I think it was on PBS, on the poles flipping and they found evidence that it may take only 3 weeks to complete a reversal. I forget where but some lava oozing out during a flip showed the signature of magnetic realignment in that short of time period.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 06:25:03 AM
Quote
I am just reading fingerprints of the gods which is all about equinoctial precession.

I was watching a special, I think it was on PBS, on the poles flipping and they found evidence that it may take only 3 weeks to complete a reversal. I forget where but some lava oozing out during a flip showed the signature of magnetic realignment in that short of time period.

Scary
Even the FED needs longer
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 05, 2010, 06:34:08 AM
CBOE Interest Rate 10-Year T-No (Chicago Options: ^TNX) up like 55% today not a good sign for fiat.

I've been using Ebay for just about all my needs except groceries. Anything from a carburetor rebuild kit for my weed whacker and the support wheels for my gas dyer to some cheap Klipsch S2 canal phones ($17us).
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 05, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
I've been having good luck with Avira virus protection. (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php) In the background it's been scanning the secondary hard drives and finding stuff in the recyclers (saved roll back information) and doesn't allow me to enter web sites on its list that are considered a hazard, give me a big fat warning.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 06:52:20 AM
CBOE Interest Rate 10-Year T-No (Chicago Options: ^TNX) up like 55% today not a good sign for fiat.

I've been using Ebay for just about all my needs except groceries. Anything from a carburetor rebuild kit for my weed whacker and the support wheels for my gas dyer to some cheap Klipsch S2 canal phones ($17us).

I just bought a new vacuum cleaner in Luxembourg ebay for 165 euro delivered on my doorstep in two days
The shop down the road was asking close to 300 euro and 7 days delivery
I found somebody on Kapaza ( a would be local ebay emulator ) willing to deliver plants for the garden at 0.80 cents were the going
price is 2.75 and for 5 euro extra he delivered on my doorstep 50 plants

Apart from food and shoes indeed it is all cheaper and easier by computer
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 06:54:35 AM
I've been having good luck with Avira virus protection. (http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php) In the background it's been scanning the secondary hard drives and finding stuff in the recyclers (saved roll back information) and doesn't allow me to enter web sites on its list that are considered a hazard, give me a big fat warning.

I have Norton Internet Security 2010
It is voted best product by the belgian consumer organisation
I just have to keep writing exceptions because its heuristics see trojans and viruses in a lot of places
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 05, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
Yeah, even if the web price versus local price is close having it delivered to your doorstep wins out every time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on April 05, 2010, 09:32:29 AM
If the poles reverse, I'll have to get a new compass. I know, I'll start manufacturing compasses where the needle points south.....I'll be rich in no time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 05, 2010, 02:08:01 PM
If the poles reverse will all the people with steel plates in their heads be drawn to flawduh?  :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 05, 2010, 02:15:38 PM
Houston we have lift off
( and if you do not believe that I will tell another story)
But I like the commods rising ; please goat make the gap between your hands larger
( and smile )

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRhXhw11qVPw&pos=1
(http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iWZBuSxZEP4U)



Remember the Reagan  chart without numbers? This one is even better it doesn't even have a chart:
  
Okay, so thingy "A"  go this way and thingy "B" goes this way and when their parallel paths  intersect we have a balanced budget.

From the House of Hecklers balcony:
"Oh that's good Tim, can do a butterfly?" 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 05, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
I bet he is talking about the next bonus INCREASE for the banksters and himself  ;D

Not small not large just a medium 20% increase ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 06, 2010, 06:29:28 AM
I see they have delayed the Social Security report and put it off for another 3 months to wave their magic wand over the numbers. Must be a huge magic wand they are trying to wave.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 06, 2010, 07:19:40 AM
with my end of may till 15 June target in mind I doubled up on NGD and bought a few more
coins fitting in my collection

Dharma has totally lost all timing since he cannot see my charts anymore
I was absolutely sure his "stuff" was rubbish
Now he is talking to hisself on the stool  :P

I received an email from uncle Jim not to let my shares go  ;D :D :o
as if I would  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 06, 2010, 03:09:47 PM
Well now PYW, I see that gold is creeping back up towards that magic number 1150 again. Should this happen, what is the time frame in which it might occur?


We are in a sub sub cycle at day 35  of the  90 or 107 days total sub cycle
These sub sub cycles tend to run 35 or 50 days average . So it is over this week or goes another 15 calendar days from today . But the high of the bigger sub cycle is much more interesting
The highest probability for an intermediate high is 30 may till 14 june for this sub cycle
and I would not be surprised that it will be an all time high with the dollar moving down

To answer your question 1150 probably this week or soon in view of the momentum upwards
But my system is strictly  based on time with price whatever it is to be defined by "conventional " means . For the 1150 I use a crystal ball . I got a new one made by Swarovski  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 07, 2010, 02:20:50 AM
Gold 1143 right now
Sold a fourth slice of Anglogold
The South Africans are at resistance ; so I am selling into strenght
My remaining ANG have now a purchasing bookvalue of 16% of todays price
There is still capital there but no risk left accounting wise
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 07, 2010, 04:03:36 AM
Gold just made 1150  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 07, 2010, 04:22:46 AM
Costume rehearsal
Quote
Protests force state of emergency in Bangkok
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c8898bfe-420f-11df-9ac4-00144feabdc0.html

(http://media.ft.com/cms/e496d10c-421a-11df-9ac4-00144feabdc0.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 07, 2010, 10:31:36 AM
I added to NG and NGD this morning both at market (set the buys last night). NGD gaped a bit on open but made a nice gain today. NG started going down on the open but buyers came in to drive it up today also. Kool
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on April 07, 2010, 12:31:59 PM
I can single handly drive anything and everything DOWN! All I have to do is buy into it! It will then drop like a rock! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Nighthawk on April 07, 2010, 12:51:07 PM
I invested in a mining company once. Placer Dome. Ever hear of it? It's on the NYSE as PlacerD I think. Made a little bit of money off that investment. Only time I ever played with the stock market!  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 07, 2010, 11:17:59 PM
An head and shoulder pattern was broken upwards
So we should go down to retest and then is 1240 $ the minimum upside target

If we go down I will use up my still available cash in NGD or LRR
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 08, 2010, 02:28:45 AM
I now got the full set of 5 coins of my belgian strip hero Kuifje

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 08, 2010, 02:52:41 AM
They left unexpectedly out of the title  :D

Jobless Claims in U.S. Increased Heading Into Easter (Update3)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aocnL3uH2OkQ&pos=4
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 08, 2010, 05:21:56 AM
Manipulators doing a good job of beating up on the miners with spot being up. Less than a week of a shallow correction should end this ranging while waiting for spot to confirm with a couple of closes in a row about $1150. Maybe one more buying opportunity at the end of April. I've been buying on the way up little by little. Besides my regular favorites, bought small amounts of MGH ($1.12) and MMG.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 08, 2010, 09:20:38 AM
Manipulators doing a good job of beating up on the miners with spot being up. Less than a week of a shallow correction should end this ranging while waiting for spot to confirm with a couple of closes in a row about $1150. Maybe one more buying opportunity at the end of April. I've been buying on the way up little by little. Besides my regular favorites, bought small amounts of MGH ($1.12) and MMG.

Everything on the daily slow stochs is overbought ; gold and South Africans in the first place ; so we need a sidewards down correction to work it off. A week or so will do and then off to the races till end of may .1240 to 1360 I see in my Christal ball
Of course slow stochs being an oscillator it can stay above 80% for a long time
Of course I regret not buying more NGD but it is allways like that .
The ones that go up are the ones you don't have or underweighted  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 08, 2010, 09:39:37 AM
"Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance."

Is Geithner ready for Sun Tzu?

from Uncle Jim
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 08, 2010, 04:46:19 PM
NG on the long term chart has a big gap just above $14 and in 6 months should triple to an all time high. This autumn in retrospect miners are priced today as gifts even though I've been trading in and out of NG since $1.60 or so. Gawd knows what would happen if they actually started mining.

Guess I should play it safe and convert all my remaining RGLD shares to certs and have them sent to me, it would be the last stock I would sell in the long term anyway, have to think about selling them first to realized profits then buy them back right away before I convert to certificates.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 08, 2010, 09:10:31 PM
Tanzanian is looking better by the day and minefinders worse

I had great hopes for GBG but the breakout of the triangle petered out and I consider
taking some gains . Does anybody have a take on GBG ?

Also it seems the dollar strength is about over .

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 08, 2010, 09:14:46 PM
Ten year of dollar vs euro on a weekly chart closing prices
RSI is coming down

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 09, 2010, 05:31:55 AM
You can't expect all miners to act like NGD. GBG needed to secure financing to continue on to production at a couple of their mines later this year. Even if you expect it to rise back to $14 you have to be patient. I suspect it is being beat up on for a takeover play.

You can always lighten up on it, I have but see no reason to dump it unless I wanted to take a chance and put all my money into one or two stocks. You can always buy more coins but you know where the gold comes from to make those coins don't you?

We are close to a buy and hold for a few months. Take your positions and hang on.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 09, 2010, 08:55:16 AM
I think we will be 1450-1650 $ like on gold in november or better
This is the second 107 day wave to crest in may-june ; third and last wave in november
Goldminers really are momo stocks. I don't want to be stuck in another lemon
I got Drooy  ::)
Thanks for the info on GBG
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 09, 2010, 11:37:12 PM
Bulgaria is no longer interested in joining the EU because....................
they cannot get their deficit under control   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 10, 2010, 01:47:49 AM
Most wanted gold stocks

I only have Oceana and New gold  ???
Oh but I see Tanzanian too  :)

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page33?oid=102520&sn=Detail&pid=102055
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 10, 2010, 02:08:28 AM
http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/editsystem?id=20031

Total cyclic has a 111 day cycle
Curious the max price level is when it goes thru the zero line which seems anywhere second half of may
Me and that computer agree pretty close again

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 10, 2010, 02:35:43 AM
NG seems to have a typical valuation
on the other hand GBG seems hugely undervalued
(link from the german eldorado forum)

http://www.goldminerpulse.com/blogs/great-basin-gold-valuation.php
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 10, 2010, 09:16:25 AM
In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed - they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, fire hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce…? The cuckoo clock.
Orson Welles

Orson was wrong
They produced banks and banksters and legalised all the stolen gold and paintings the nazis kept or sold in Switzerland. Certain years of Vrenilli gold coins are made from jewish teeth

Anyway ; the english invented the longbow , does not help them very much today , nor does Shakespeare  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 10, 2010, 12:14:46 PM
In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, bloodshed - they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, fire hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce…? The cuckoo clock.
Orson Welles


Anyway ; the english invented the longbow , does not help them very much today , nor does Shakespeare  >:(

They produced Aleister Crowley:

"I slept with Faith and found a  corpse in my arms on awaking; I danced with Doubt and found her a virgin in the morning."  :o

It was one of his many jabs at religion but the metaphor  could easily apply to  fiat toilet paper vs gold.  Not bad for the "wicked man in the world" and coke/opium head. ;D

Wonder if there are any virgins in Ft. Knox or just a lot of pigeon's blood?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 10, 2010, 05:03:51 PM
It's all a crap shoot but GBG is not a bad short term bet (even though they can't fund themselves yet) that they begin production in June from their African mine. Hopefully their stock price begins reflecting positive pre-production reports in the weeks ahead. DROOPY stock price is just a bet on rising spot prices since their output keeps declining. Both DROOPY and GBG are in the same boat when it comes to governmental policies but that could be true anywhere in the world as a growing crisis in debt will force drastic measures everywhere.

Using PYW's MieWeb link (http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page33?oid=102520&sn=Detail&pid=102055) and throwing a dart at the top 25 would probably give you some good 6 month gains if you could hold on that long. NG gets a honorable mention not for production but based on reserves alone.

I'm almost inclined to hold quantity over quality in other words, more shares the better all the way around rather than picking the big names which usually cost more to begin with. The big guys' fate are known already in production output and any declines won't bode well.

The adage 'Sell in May and go away' will be tested this year as the shorts of miners are not being piled on lately. Means for a steady rise in stock prices if manipulators go long. And I wouldn't count the dollar out just yet, it is still the only game in town.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 10, 2010, 07:56:21 PM
Did I ever tell you about the time my Dad refused to fly? Maybe he wasn't the greatest story teller but his memory was superb up until the day he passed. Eighty plus years later he could still see the calendar dates and clock hands hanging on the walls and put names with faces without a doubt. His recalls were at the very least factual with no need of exaggerations....

....Again, still he finds himself continuing test flying those crude and basic autopilot contraptions. Well, the military is progressive by nature and funded by taxpayers through Congressional approval so this project is in need of review by a Washington committee to see if it merits further funding and is headed in a right and forward direction. The base readies for a show and tell of detailed successes with auto-pilot mock-ups and cost analysts charts even painting the test plane two tone (modified Hellfighter I believe) belly one color topside another color.

Days before the congregation arrives, with his test plane freshly painted for any dignitaries who might opt for in flight observations, my Dad gets in and takes off for a final flight check of functions. Gets up to speed and pulls back on the stick like a hundred time before and the plane barely leaves the ground like in inches from. This is totally unexpected.  Full power now and full muscle on the stick and the plane just clears an 8 foot high perimeter chain link fence at the end of the runway doesn't bother or have time to call the tower bringing the plane around directly as in a 'U' turn to land the opposite direction he left from on the same runway. Claims he never got more than fifty feet in air.

Standard procedure invokes the flight crew and mechanics to go over the plane. The report back is that it is airworthy. At a hastily called meeting the reports are read and events rehashed leading to the conclusion by the commanding officers on the ground of pilot error. My Dad admits the plane powers up and taxis down the runway just fine, it's takeoff that's the problem and without a plausible explanation as to why, he's not about to try again to cheat death. Meeting adjourned leaving unnerved commanders with visions of funding beginning to sprout wings. Follows most military thinking. ya know.

Next day, next meeting a larger head count proves this is no laughing matter. Designers, engineers, head mechanics, private industry interests and developers, all there. Case review by persons closer to the top of the ladder re-certifies the plane airworthy with the same logical conclusion: Pilot Error. With that verdict he is now ordered to take to the air. His response is, "Okay, I'll go up but one of you gentleman in this room has to go up with me."     No volunteers....only deafening silence. Before any definitive reactions by those seeking to maintain power and prestige along with those money interests there comes out of a corner in the room a pimpled face kid about 23 years of age fresh out of MIT, today, one of the representatives of the on-board hardware and parts manufacture speaking up asking for permission to inspect the plane. It's agreed it couldn't hurt and why not as the meeting breaks for lunch.

On the tarmac the kid requests some rolling stairs, precedes with and completes his inspection. Converses with maintenance, reports to a commander and finally discussed his findings with my Dad who's nodding his head in agreement and willing to try liftoff once again, of course after the fix.

Alone back in the pilot's seat rolling down the runaway to the plane's liftoff speed he pulls back on the stick and said the plane jumped into the air.

The MIT graduate had told my Dad about project assignments at MIT using a newly installed wind tunnel where testing could be done in real time feedback on site in a controlled environment at close observation.  One of his first joint reports dealt with different bird wing shapes affecting air flow at various wind speeds which are clearly seen using smoke streams. The new two tone paint job on the plane was masked off directly along the leading edge of the plane's wings not only once but twice for the second color leaving a rough join creating air turbulence that interfere with airfoil effect. The kid had asked that the leading edge of the wings be buffed smooth.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 10, 2010, 08:54:25 PM
That is a nice story whadda with an happy ending . One should never tinker with something one does not understand
Kepner Tregoe techniques could have solved that problem by telephone .
What did change ? What is the difference between is and is not . What is the timeline etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 10, 2010, 08:59:37 PM
I spend two hours looking at weekly and daily charts ( sunday being a new week in the seven days charting)

I only know the weekly is overbought and supposed to stay there till end of may start of june
The daily is overbought and supposed to drop once to 20 % and shoot back up ( 40% would do too )
The monthly is turning nicely as befitting candle 5 out of 12 upwards

So my presumption is intermidiate gold top end of may and I am flying blind till then

With a short term swing from overbought to oversold the next week or two I will try
to rearrange my shares a bit more ; I am now seriously looking at the dog Linear
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on April 11, 2010, 02:56:52 AM
I find it a very interesting observation that the English only invented the longbow yet the value of their money has always exceeded that of the free world? For a small group of islands that create and export very little it is amazing they continue to be a leader? Could their be other reasons the world is not aware of?
   The power of Great Britain and the Vatican is beyond government and religion and the masses don't have a clue!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 11, 2010, 04:59:32 AM
The English used to have an armada as big as the second and third armadas together
I have seen their "average" factories . Makes me cry
I have had one of their cars a sunbeam ( made me cry)
I had one of their girls chase me ( made me run away as fast as I can because I like
my veggies cooked and not "washed" in hot water )
They make superb loudspeakers and turntables ( cost a fortune )
They have the highest rate of chocaholics ( people hooked on black chocolates which generate serotonine and make one happy without prozac )
I loved their cheap abundant musicals , their gin and lime, their cheap japanese and chinese restaurants . I cannot think of anything else  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on April 11, 2010, 05:44:47 AM
The important thing here is the fact I made you think? You are much closer to the reality of Great Britain so it is great to hear facts instead of the propaganda on TV news. Thanks for the reality check. (You actually ran from a woman?) ;D (What made you think she wanted to cook? ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 11, 2010, 08:05:47 AM
The important thing here is the fact I made you think? You are much closer to the reality of Great Britain so it is great to hear facts instead of the propaganda on TV news. Thanks for the reality check. (You actually ran from a woman?) ;D (What made you think she wanted to cook? ;D

She worked for Cadbury chocolates . I got large boxes full of chocolate
She made the mistake of cooking for me . Yorkshire pudding yuck. Halfcooked
Brussels sprouts double yuck.
Miniskirts and blue eyeshadow only have an appeal in the daytime ; bad food ruins the
nighttime  :P

I married my wife when she graduated from cooking school . No unpleasant surprises on my plate  ;D I left the univ graduates for my fellow (stupid) engineers graduates  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on April 11, 2010, 12:55:32 PM
Sounds like to me your wife set you up? Of course all women know the key to a man's heart is through his stomach! ;D There are a few other things a man might look for but one needs a full stomach to continue the search? ;)
When I see a woman with 16 pounds of makeup on I can't help but wonder what she looks like when she gets up. I can guarantee you its a whole new picture!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 11, 2010, 01:24:33 PM
I spend two hours looking at weekly and daily charts ( sunday being a new week in the seven days charting)

I only know the weekly is overbought and supposed to stay there till end of may start of june
The daily is overbought and supposed to drop once to 20 % and shoot back up ( 40% would do too )
The monthly is turning nicely as befitting candle 5 out of 12 upwards

So my presumption is intermidiate gold top end of may and I am flying blind till then

With a short term swing from overbought to oversold the next week or two I will try
to rearrange my shares a bit more ; I am now seriously looking at the dog Linear

Actually am thinking very similar. Expect a down move in gold and SPX soon in month with a blast up till around May 20, Then a collapse for a month with another blast up till end of August (no pun intended :D) followed by down till Xmas. Another phenomena relates to world event in August + or - with consequences into next year at least. This is potentially so nasty that you must assume nothing to help you. I'm talking food, water....
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 11, 2010, 02:16:51 PM
I find it a very interesting observation that the English only invented the longbow yet the value of their money has always exceeded that of the free world? For a small group of islands that create and export very little it is amazing they continue to be a leader? Could their be other reasons the world is not aware of?
   The power of Great Britain and the Vatican is beyond government and religion and the masses don't have a clue!

Don't forget the Nazi. They never died,  they became Bilderbergs.

In addition to England's  Empire Navy, (twice the size of the next two biggest Navies added together) and their agents sowing distrust between  European neighbors (just as we do today) , England  gained investments from all over Europe  *by default* --just as we used to back when property rights existed in the United States.
  
The heretic  laws in Europe were nothing but a method to confiscate property. At one point they dug up corpses of people that died before they could  charge them. So they charged  the corpse with heresy and confiscated property from the heirs. England however was the most "progressive."  For the most part Englands  witch hunts were  more political episodes  than  a  make believe "war on someting"  in order to extract "resources"  through confiscation.  Really, how   serious could they have been about the "War on Heresay"  when  they used  the New Forrest witches against the Spanish Armada?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 11, 2010, 08:46:54 PM
I spend two hours looking at weekly and daily charts ( sunday being a new week in the seven days charting)

I only know the weekly is overbought and supposed to stay there till end of may start of june
The daily is overbought and supposed to drop once to 20 % and shoot back up ( 40% would do too )
The monthly is turning nicely as befitting candle 5 out of 12 upwards

So my presumption is intermidiate gold top end of may and I am flying blind till then

With a short term swing from overbought to oversold the next week or two I will try
to rearrange my shares a bit more ; I am now seriously looking at the dog Linear

Actually am thinking very similar. Expect a down move in gold and SPX soon in month with a blast up till around May 20, Then a collapse for a month with another blast up till end of August (no pun intended :D) followed by down till Xmas. Another phenomena relates to world event in August + or - with consequences into next year at least. This is potentially so nasty that you must assume nothing to help you. I'm talking food, water....

Actually my godfather was called Augustinus after the saint; they thought they did me a favour by shortening it to August .
All americans I worked for shortened it to GUS
In French it is better because Auguste means devine  ;D and his a first name too
In Flemish they shorten it to Gust but that is the generic name of a clown in Holland
So I am stuck with August  :o

Oh by the by I have an all time year high for November so we better calibrate our crystal balls  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 12, 2010, 05:06:04 AM
This weekend research suggest silver may be a far better than gold.
Gold Corp. has a lot of silver potential - didn't know that.

My name is Stuart not Stewart. :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 12, 2010, 06:20:34 AM
This weekend research suggest silver may be a far better than gold.
Gold Corp. has a lot of silver potential - didn't know that.

My name is Stuart not Stewart. :D

Reminds me of the musical and song
My name is Lisa with a Z  :)

On the other hand my last name has been murdered by most non Flemish
But I am not going to post that on the open Internet  ::)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 12, 2010, 06:22:21 AM
Looks like the gold and miners correction just arrived
I hate those prices going down  >:( Cause I could have sold and never did  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 12, 2010, 05:17:31 PM
I've been buying on the way up and expect only a shallow correction here and have a few bucks left for buying. We'll see what happens.

Talking about airfoils causing high/low pressure or a partial vacuum no better example is the winning trimaran bringing the America's Cup back to the USA.  Albeit powered by a sail being a vertical wing the technology is being perfected to point where the trimaran can sail more than twice the ambient wind speed as an example: Wind blows 10 knots the craft speeds along at 20+ knots. I think finely tuned in a sweet spot it sailed 3X true wind speed at one point.

BMW Oracle (http://www.cupinfo.com/en/bmwo-multihull-san-diego-visit-001.php)










Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 12, 2010, 09:30:27 PM
There are curious symptoms on ebay germany and france

Volume only about 80% of peak with gold at and all time high on sunday
Rare pre 1800 french coins in larger then ever volumes ( high priced collector coins)
Restrikes of Marianne Rooster coins post 1907 and Elisabeth II sovereigns circa 1960
both at 15% over melt ( used to be investor coins at melt )

This seems to show that  both collectors and occasional investors are dishording
15 % over melt for "generic" gold coins tries to tell us something. New buyers are
surely coming in ; driving up prices

This morning in Europe the miner correction started with the classical zero share turnover
on Euronext ( buyers and sellers too far apart ) 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 13, 2010, 06:36:52 AM
I'd be more than happy to add some NG but it is up right now. Need a 5% swing to make it worth my wild may not get it this time around. Watching NGD and others to add to. Only RGLD getting a good beating today. MGN might be a better play than MFN.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 13, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
I'd be more than happy to add some NG but it is up right now. Need a 5% swing to make it worth my wild may not get it this time around. Watching NGD and others to add to. Only RGLD getting a good beating today. MGN might be a better play than MFN.

Those with the best buying op chartwise I got fully loaded on like months ago
K.to : yri.to : tnx.to
Those I want to buy are too high in dayly slow stochs NGD and LRR
I have not decided yet wheter GBG is a lemon or not
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 14, 2010, 12:37:07 AM
Government control of the internet is getting out of China ( with the best of intentions to start with )

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6981ea66-4728-11df-b253-00144feab49a.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 14, 2010, 07:09:03 AM
I'm guess'in here but looks like the Chinese told Sinclair to go fly a kite after he spent all that time kiss'in their ass. He does have some base minerals to collect royalties from and other interested parties still surveying his properties for possible mining but other than that so far it's a dry hole. Even Lakeshore shows more promise.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 14, 2010, 11:39:56 AM
I'm guess'in here but looks like the Chinese told Sinclair to go fly a kite after he spent all that time kiss'in their ass. He does have some base minerals to collect royalties from and other interested parties still surveying his properties for possible mining but other than that so far it's a dry hole. Even Lakeshore shows more promise.

I don't know but the chart pic is amongst the better ones again
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 14, 2010, 01:00:04 PM
I don't see it. TRE 1yr looks erratic and confused to me. 1yr trend lines is okay but so is the majority of mining trend lines. NGD 1yr is a good looking chart so is NG. Surprisingly, they all look a bit top heavy right now. Either they break out or consolidate short term.

By the way PYW thanks for inviting in here. Especially nice is the absents of nazi moderators.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 14, 2010, 08:21:18 PM
I don't see it. TRE 1yr looks erratic and confused to me. 1yr trend lines is okay but so is the majority of mining trend lines. NGD 1yr is a good looking chart so is NG. Surprisingly, they all look a bit top heavy right now. Either they break out or consolidate short term.

By the way PYW thanks for inviting in here. Especially nice is the absents of nazi moderators.

I left 22 forums without saying good bye . Because they either deleted posts of mine or had an idiot heckling me and the mods agreed that stupid belgian was fair game

I walked on eggs they say in flemish to be allowed to stay on capital stool because that escapee from the nazis is worse then the gestapo
In the days the forum was still alive he banned them by the dozen . Do you remember maximizer ? He was banned for insisting share volume is important .

I was banned twice in two posts with two different internet adresses on goldeagle : first time for giving the link to a free flashblocker and second time for asking what happened to our chartmaking friend mark who went broke .

I stopped posting on a german forum because a younger member said my  avatar made him puke
( the one of gavroche I use on every forum except this one ) I still read because I buy gold coins from their members section . Yesterday somebody was given a last warning because
he recommended a gold fund the owner does not like  ???

We are knights here and welcome .  :)
I don't know how they can run this forum on a shoestring whilst doc is always complaining he needs more money more money more money : makes me think of
scrooge in the christmas story
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 14, 2010, 08:27:46 PM
Ok right or wrong my analysis on TNX.TO

Monthly chart slow stoch up and MACD rising

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 14, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Weekly Slow stoch up and MACD rising
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 14, 2010, 08:30:39 PM
Daily stochs descending towards the buying zone
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 15, 2010, 06:02:11 AM
Most all the mining trends are up. I'm not saying your wrong about TRE I'm just saying be careful that it doesn't rise as fast as some other miners. I don't think Sinclair is visiting the sand people because the Chinese were obliging.

I don't expect Doc to be the model overseer or anyone else for that matter everyone has their own quirks. I just want to be left alone if I'm not hurting anything but some nut case's fragile feelings and there is an oversupply of them.

For the lurkers at Stool I try to convince them that it is not a fair fight in the mining sector, never was and plan/prepare accordingly.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 15, 2010, 06:55:02 AM
double
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 15, 2010, 06:56:23 AM
Another double , makes it a triple  ???
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 15, 2010, 06:57:19 AM
We are knights here and welcome .  :)
doc is always complaining he needs more money more money more money : makes me think of
scrooge in the christmas story
Could it be that he is loosing more on his stocks than he's making? ;)

gavroche.....I like that! How is it pronounced In french?( I think that is where it comes from, isn't it?)


Victor Hugo wrote a book Les Misérables ( the miserable people ? )
It is the story of Jean Valjean a convict who steels the church silver and is given it by the priest . From then on he tries to be honest but in that period of france it is very hard
The story goes on into a Paris revolution were Gavroche is a street urchin picking up expended lead bullets to be reused . He dies this way .
I forgot how to write phonetically but like the word
Gallant the GA is the first sound of Gavroche the vro is straightforward like in Vronski
the che  is a problem it is like in the spanish buona noche ( tja )

The coin is issued by Monnaie de Paris

I have just started yesterday on the year 2000 film version in 4 ninety minutes episodes of Les Misérables .

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 15, 2010, 07:04:05 AM
Most all the mining trends are up. I'm not saying your wrong about TRE I'm just saying be careful that it doesn't rise as fast as some other miners. I don't think Sinclair is visiting the sand people because the Chinese were obliging.

I don't expect Doc to be the model overseer or anyone else for that matter everyone has their own quirks. I just want to be left alone if I'm not hurting anything but some nut case's fragile feelings and there is an oversupply of them.

For the lurkers at Stool I try to convince them that it is not a fair fight in the mining sector, never was and plan/prepare accordingly.

I think we are working off the overbought by a sideways movement
I do not care about opportunity loss. In fact I could have tripled my money
by buying banksters last year duh >:( or lost a lot by having natural gas  ???

I got 9 horses now but no cows nor sheep
with 9 miners I am virtually 90 % a HUI tracker according to statistic theory
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Post by: TwoShadows on April 15, 2010, 09:30:57 AM
I need a LOT more money but not for the upkeep on this castle!  ;) And, as you can see, we don't have NO stinkin advertisers other than what the Knights and Knightesses wish to peddle at any given time. This place is NOT about money or profit, its about coins and friends who have become family. I can get all that other crap just about anywhere I go so I am content to enjoy the freedom and equallity we have built here. Don't get no better than that!

If and when WE ever have a debt WE take care of it and go on. It is OUR home and I don't hear any one complaining and thats the way we like it! We have quests, which the world says we cannot do, and then we succeed? Why? Because we want too! We have done $9,000.00 in quests with NO advertisers, NO membership fees and NO arm twisting. You are either in or out, it is your choice, and you are still very very welcome here! Oh, and one other little factor thats worth mentioning---WE NEVER STAY ON TOPIC and no one cares!!! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on April 15, 2010, 02:33:20 PM
What's the topic, I forgot.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 15, 2010, 08:19:46 PM
What's the topic, I forgot.

The topic is that the rain in spain stays mainly in the plain Mz Doolittle 

( I think she's got it ) Prof Higgins
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 15, 2010, 08:31:35 PM
In unrelated news our known goldmine investment community of those that  are undercapitalised and boosting of enormous profits has been reduced by another unit . Agent Smith sold all his gold miner interests at what is arguably the last period of weakness for the next months

Options are deadly . If you make a bundle you take it and run run run . Otherwise you loose it all back and some more . The only way to stay in the option game is to write options not to buy them . The option premium is percentage wise 5% every 6 weeks or more .
Of course if you only have a 1000 bucks that is meaningless money to live on .

Like the song of Oliver Twist ; I am reviewing the situation ...... but am 94% in miners
with 6 % normal cash in my paper portfolio . When the last marginal investor has been plucked clean we can go up and up
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 16, 2010, 04:09:54 AM
Oh my god
They are suing golden sack and gold drops  :o

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aqiQG4zkORgs&pos=1
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 16, 2010, 05:40:48 AM
Charts did look a little toppy. Debating whether to add here.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 16, 2010, 05:48:41 AM
Charts did look a little toppy. Debating whether to add here.

Right or wrong I am waiting till monday at least
Slow stoch and momentum 39 not where they should be
Miners above their ema 65 could kiss that ema 65
In essence I am waiting for another 5% ( even intraday will do me )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 16, 2010, 05:51:34 AM
You may not realise this but most of europe is in a shamble over the Iceland Volcano
Dust at about 5 miles high has shut down airports in Enland, Belgium; Central France; Holland and some pars of Germany . No outgoing planes and no incoming planes allowed
What the mex flu could not do a bit of dust does .
Staticians say they would not be amazed the vulcano stayed active for 2 years
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 16, 2010, 06:30:51 AM
You may not realise this but most of europe is in a shamble over the Iceland Volcano
Dust at about 5 miles high has shut down airports in Enland, Belgium; Central France; Holland and some pars of Germany . No outgoing planes and no incoming planes allowed
What the mex flu could not do a bit of dust does .
Staticians say they would not be amazed the vulcano stayed active for 2 years
Yeah I see trains are very popular now. I guess you can take back those bags of fertilizer that you won't be needing this season.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 16, 2010, 06:43:25 AM
You may not realise this but most of europe is in a shamble over the Iceland Volcano
Dust at about 5 miles high has shut down airports in Enland, Belgium; Central France; Holland and some pars of Germany . No outgoing planes and no incoming planes allowed
What the mex flu could not do a bit of dust does .
Staticians say they would not be amazed the vulcano stayed active for 2 years
Yeah I see trains are very popular now. I guess you can take back those bags of fertilizer that you won't be needing this season.

Apart from all that sulferdioxide that is going to end up in acid rain somewhere ; the volcano also is producing relatively high levels of fluor gas which is a killer in high concentrations . Also historically when this volcano goes his big brother goes too and that would produce 10 more times of ash
Maybe they can take our attention away from the economy after all
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Post by: whadda on April 16, 2010, 11:52:29 AM
Looks like I should have bought the 5% drop on NG. I see NGD closed on up on the day so did some BAA I'm holding.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 16, 2010, 11:38:29 PM
NG made another top 100
I got Oceana on the list

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page67?oid=102827&sn=Detail&pid=102055
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 16, 2010, 11:39:41 PM
The highest I get on this list is Tanzanian

http://www2.barchart.com/sectors.asp?sec=mining~-~gold.sec&level=2&title=Mining+-+Gold
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 16, 2010, 11:40:58 PM
And COT is trying to kill gold again
I will celebrate the day they loose the battle and the war

http://snalaska.net/cot/current/charts/GC.png

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 17, 2010, 09:17:11 PM
Banks are dying quietly

According to the flemish newspaper bank number 50 died this year
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 18, 2010, 04:07:44 AM
I finally got her with cert and etui etc
Of course from France ebay
1000 Francs Chad or Tjad or Tschad

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3139&g2_serialNumber=1)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 18, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
Bwahaha
The golden sack warns Germany
I think it should read Germany warns Sack reign is ending

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/04/jamie-dimon-warns-germany-on-banking.html
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 18, 2010, 10:58:21 PM
France and Germany had empty passenger planes flying thru the dustcloud and now
wants to end this nonsense of no flying
Planes were not damaged and flying is possible

I guess the passengers may have to sign a waiver that their life is of no consequence to protecting earnings of the airflight companies  ???

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJSjMSOvjZZs&pos=8
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Post by: OldDan on April 19, 2010, 01:15:33 AM
It just may be possible that Goldman Sachs owns these airlines, or at least controling interest......naaaaaa they wouldn't do such things, now would they?

CNN Money -- Oil prices tumbled for the third straight trading day Monday as investors reacted to the fraud charges against Goldman Sachs and the strength of the dollar.

What prices are doing: The contract for June crude oil delivery - the most actively traded Monday - fell $2.02 to $82.65 a barrel. The May contract, which expires Tuesday, fell $2.23, or nearly 3%, to $81.01 a barrel.
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Post by: whadda on April 19, 2010, 08:10:47 AM
Added some NG and NGD.

As hyper-inflation has not taken hold yet deflation will continue to affect prices including oil. Gold still in the early stages of gauging a growing lack of confidence in all fiat.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 19, 2010, 08:14:39 PM
Ha now Longnine is going to miss a new Human Right

Quote
The European Union has declared travelling a human right, and is launching a scheme to subsidize vacations with taxpayers' dollars for those too poor to afford their own trips.

Antonio Tajani, the European Union commissioner for enterprise and industry, proposed a strategy that could cost European taxpayers hundreds of millions of euros a year, The Times of London reports. 
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 19, 2010, 08:17:03 PM
Added some NG and NGD.

As hyper-inflation has not taken hold yet deflation will continue to affect prices including oil. Gold still in the early stages of gauging a growing lack of confidence in all fiat.

I think we are very close to a buyable bottom ; might have been yesterday allready
i am working on the presumption we are halfway in a 50 cyclet and then top of in a 30 days cyclet
with an 107 days top in mid june .
Sell in june and go away  ;)
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Post by: Templar on April 19, 2010, 08:44:13 PM
MAYBE LONGNINE FOUND A WAY TO SUBSIDIZE HIS VACATION AND THATS WHY HE LEFT SO SOON....BEFORE THEY CLOSE THE LOOP HOLE ??? ??? ???

 YOUR SERVANT AND FRIEND..........THE TEMPLAR

 P.S. HAS THE AIR CLEARED UP MUCH SINCE THE VOLCANO STARTED OR IS IT WORSE???
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Post by: Goose on April 20, 2010, 04:37:13 AM
The air in Washington, D C or Europe? Wahington D C - NO, getting worse....Europe - yes.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 20, 2010, 06:25:36 AM
MAYBE LONGNINE FOUND A WAY TO SUBSIDIZE HIS VACATION AND THATS WHY HE LEFT SO SOON....BEFORE THEY CLOSE THE LOOP HOLE ??? ??? ???

 YOUR SERVANT AND FRIEND..........THE TEMPLAR

 P.S. HAS THE AIR CLEARED UP MUCH SINCE THE VOLCANO STARTED OR IS IT WORSE???


Everybody is flying for the moment at least letting incoming flights land. More ash is expected but the wind turned so it is not coming over europe for the moment . The ash should reach Canada today.
I think longnine took a sabbatical because he needs a year to have a look at some of his coins  ;D
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 20, 2010, 09:50:13 PM
Whadda

Something is wrong with this recovery
I should feel anxious and depressed or optimistic and euphoric
I feel nothing whatsoever except an headache because of my recurring cold
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Post by: whadda on April 21, 2010, 08:09:10 AM
Whadda

Something is wrong with this recovery
I should feel anxious and depressed or optimistic and euphoric
I feel nothing whatsoever except an headache because of my recurring cold

These are not happy times PYW. The more spot moves up the worse things are getting. In my future at the very least, is more and higher taxes in many forms. That's the best case scenario.

Your health equates to 'eat like a pig, die like a pig' your digestive system in the strictest sense was meant for a fruit diet. Consume otherwise and you pay the price not because you are being punished per se but because your body will go to extremes to heal itself by casting off the stored and unwanted unneeded intake and excesses. You can't stop a natural process and shouldn't try just rest. The fact that you are even sick confirms your body is functioning normally as it deals with what it considers foreign intake by casting it off using every pore in your body. The system is trying to cleanse itself, don't interfere. Pent up unnecessary and toxic elements are being released and reenter the blood stream to be filtered out by the kidneys (drink lots of distilled water to help flush). This temporary poisoning or over taxation of the bloodstream can cause headaches. In drug addicts it's called withdrawal.

Hey PYW, remember the time dhrama copied one of your charts and posted it on some other board without acknowledgment then had the gall to come back to you and ask for clarification on some part of the cycles? I thought that took a lot of nerve and was funny. Wasn't it?......okay....maybe not.....to you...never-mind.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 21, 2010, 08:57:21 PM
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Your health equates to 'eat like a pig, die like a pig' your digestive system in the strictest sense was meant for a fruit diet. Consume otherwise and you pay the price not because you are being punished per se but because your body will go to extremes to heal itself by casting off the stored and unwanted unneeded intake and excesses. You can't stop a natural process and shouldn't try just rest. The fact that you are even sick confirms your body is functioning normally as it deals with what it considers foreign intake by casting it off using every pore in your body. The system is trying to cleanse itself, don't interfere. Pent up unnecessary and toxic elements are being released and reenter the blood stream to be filtered out by the kidneys (drink lots of distilled water to help flush). This temporary poisoning or over taxation of the bloodstream can cause headaches. In drug addicts it's called withdrawal.
 

It is a little different for me. At the age of 4 ; I got an illness which was treated by a childspecialist by too small doses of Sulfamides -we did not have peneciline in 1951 .
As a result the bacteries hibernated and then infected the liver ( years and years of no chocolate and no cheese etc for a 4 year old ; only jam; bread ; potatoes and liver yucks) the bacteries also gave an undiagnosed ear  infection which mutated in a Petromastoditis . This is a kind of infection that will grow up to the interphase of the ear with the brain . At the time there were 5 cases in Mechelen operated by 2 doctors . Three died and two were deaf . The operation consisted in taking the bones out of the ear and scrape them of with a scalpel and putting the bones back in .
I was diagnosed when my body kept trembling uncontrollable because the brain started to get infected at the ear interface .I only had reduced earing since my mother choose the right surgeon .

Cutting a long story short I had reduced recuperation and in short sequence I had
measles, TBC, diabetes, albumine in the blood and severe undefined allergies which produced lip swelling etc .

I beat everything except the allergy which is activated by nervous energy and lack of serotonine. So I have lots and lots of full spectrum lights in the house in winter .
I try to avoid everything that makes me nervous but my wifes sister died last sunday
and there is little possible avoidance of the fact my wife is unhappy .
Anyway my doctor advised a different diet 5 years ago and for a full year I only ate salads and fibers and fruites etc did not help shit .
So I am back to cognac and pseudoephidrine nasal sprays .

The super advantage is that since I have been sick since age 4 I am not complaining of getting worse like all my age class are complaining of fatigue etc
In fact since I am retired I am getting better . ( No more duties )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 21, 2010, 09:13:37 PM
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Hey PYW, remember the time dhrama copied one of your charts and posted it on some other board without acknowledgment then had the gall to come back to you and ask for clarification on some part of the cycles? I thought that took a lot of nerve and was funny. Wasn't it?......okay....maybe not.....to you...never-mind.

Dharma copied my charts continuously and on the forums with bad interfaces he described the cycles . When there were questions he asked them to me .
I once challenged him to show his stuff like he always calls it ; he never did
Well I said on that forum that I would not post charts anymore and doc sent me a private email I could copyright the charts and explained how  :D

But I was really fed up that Dharma came to the exact same days for gold tops based on astro readings ( after he copied the charts )
Also I was receiving emails from astro people that had found out the charts were mine
with lots of questions ; but I only know the moon  ::) so I got fed up explaining statistical cycle systems to astro people . What is really funny is that Dharma has met nearly all famous people during his travels ; did you notice that ?

Now I only post here and on a German forum . There I got the highest praise possible
They called me an old fox and agreed on it . ( General Rommel was called the desert fox)

Well it looks like NG gets about buyable . I am still sitting on my 6% cash reserve since I allways buy too early and I am determined to buy too late this swing around  :P
I like the 15% extra return the candollar is giving me
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 22, 2010, 12:24:24 AM
Ah beautifull news
The Belgian government tendered her resignation to the King 50 minutes ago
The French speaking parties demands were incompatible with Flemish speaking same parties ; which are too afraid of the total Flemish party getting more then 25 % of the votes .
So the Christian-Liberal-Socialist coalition had no other answer as to resign again
Flemish against Walloon .
In the meantime since 1830 flemish money is still transferred too walloons unabatedly
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Post by: whadda on April 22, 2010, 06:39:51 AM
My parents lived long lives esp. my Dad to 84 years old. He outlived most all his acquaintances but after age 70 spent a lot of time traveling to funerals and talking with surviving family members.

Yeah, poor genetic traits and irreversible physical damage can only be treated with comfort and understanding.

I know what you mean about the vegetables, pretty much useless except as roughage (bulk) although the colorful ones hold some valuable nutrients. Fruit, only a couple weeks out of the year do you get any decent picking while in season even then the soil has been so depleted that compared to fruit grown in fertile ground it's like night and day. Still these plant lifes produce carbon based nutrients essential to a carbon based being (photosynthesis attaches carbon changing inorganic to organic).

Without activity when you are older there is really no need to eat much. The body recycles and reproduces most of the proteins it needs by reassembling amino acids and I think the only thing it can't produce is B-12 and vitamin E even then bacteria in the stomach creates B-12 and sunlight reacting on the skin creates E. That's if you function normally and are not in an overly polluted state.

I am down to one main meal a day usually late afternoon. Haven't ate breakfast in years except for liquids. When the stomach is empty the body goes about its repairs as in during sleep or during a fast.  I still have vices but if your ego lives in your tastes bud then I'm getting them under control. A lifetime struggle.

Nothing better than a sun warmed ripe blackberry picked wild. Just melts in your mouth.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 22, 2010, 07:10:50 AM
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I am down to one main meal a day usually late afternoon. Haven't ate breakfast in years except for liquids. 

I sleep 9-10 hours a night . No breakfast but three cups of weak herb tea to cleanse
the body . A self cooked lunch with white or read wine and three more cups of  tea " earl gray" this time . An apple for evening meal or some such and then on to whiskey to sustain
the character  ;D however diluted by 80% by sugar free coke . I am trying to cut down on my current vice . Internet and games .
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Post by: TwoShadows on April 22, 2010, 08:23:45 AM
I am eagerly awaiting my first BLACKBERRIES and STRAWBERRIES this summer. Been quite a while since I tackled either plant but I think I have winners now. Of course MY garden consists of potatos, potatos and more potatos. My wife does quite a few different veggies but I prefer her tomatoes. Lots of tomatoes!
I also wait each spring for the Purple Martins to return and have noticed my numbers are down this year? Where are my birds?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 22, 2010, 09:54:14 AM
Looks like the spring and summer seasons might arrive a bit late or maybe the swallows have had their navigation affected by magnetic anomalies throwing them off by 10 degrees of declination. I planted a fig tree but it looks like it for the birds because the second they are ripe it's feasting time and I can never beat them to one. Then I read later on I should have planted a green or yellow fig tree because the birds don't recognize when they are ripe. I have a mission fig and they turn dark purple when ripe and are sweeter than candy.....when I can have one.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 23, 2010, 03:46:42 AM
Made NGD into a full position by buying another slice at 5.36 cad  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 23, 2010, 04:32:16 AM
I'm overweight NGD money wise from a couple weeks ago next would be NG. Both have been performing nicely. I see RGLD starting to lead again.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 23, 2010, 05:30:01 AM
I'm overweight NGD money wise from a couple weeks ago next would be NG. Both have been performing nicely. I see RGLD starting to lead again.

NGD is the highest riser on my screen . I am now in a bid on coins and wait on shares position . If my end of may mid june scenario comes true ( and I am leaning again to the 107 day cycle which is ending mid june ) then I will rebalance my portfolio farther . That is out of South Africans and out of Kinross
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 23, 2010, 07:30:52 AM
I'm overweight NGD money wise from a couple weeks ago next would be NG. Both have been performing nicely. I see RGLD starting to lead again.

NGD is the highest riser on my screen . I am now in a bid on coins and wait on shares position . If my end of may mid june scenario comes true ( and I am leaning again to the 107 day cycle which is ending mid june ) then I will rebalance my portfolio farther . That is out of South Africans and out of Kinross

Where's your sense of adventure PYW? I watch NG and NGD drag race all the time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 23, 2010, 11:33:34 PM
I'm overweight NGD money wise from a couple weeks ago next would be NG. Both have been performing nicely. I see RGLD starting to lead again.

NGD is the highest riser on my screen . I am now in a bid on coins and wait on shares position . If my end of may mid june scenario comes true ( and I am leaning again to the 107 day cycle which is ending mid june ) then I will rebalance my portfolio farther . That is out of South Africans and out of Kinross

Where's your sense of adventure PYW? I watch NG and NGD drag race all the time.

First Oceana and even Tanzanian are given me a run for my money right now along with NGD
Second according to that useless consumer magazine I buy it is still ALLOWED to buy gold and very daring investors are ALLOWED to buy goldfunds , mind you not individual miners because in their basic ( basic economic training for idiots) they deem that much and much too dangerous going to individual miners . Why do I buy these clowns ? Because the day they say buy and buy is the day I start selling . ::)

Their biggest customers are all banks . Every bank outlet mgr has a copy . It was useful
when I went discussing 14 days interest rates three years ago . I am fully out of the 14 day interest rate game now .

Today is half way thru my 107 day sub cycle . However this cycle divides in 3 subsubcycles and we are in the up phase of the 2 nd . So I expect to sell at the top of this 2nd and buy very quickly other shares at the bottom of the 3Rd to ride 100% invested into 16 june
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 24, 2010, 12:44:31 AM
Wealth Lab computer also again on a 107 day cycle albeit defased from mine with a 74%
correlation factor

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 24, 2010, 12:46:32 AM
All three wealth lab scripts I trace are at HUI 480-482-478
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 25, 2010, 04:01:42 PM
PYW, I don't know if you had a chance to read this Armstrong note but you should check it against your cycles. It doesn't include any charting but names times along with some fundamental comments and observations and you know his opinions are worth !0,000% more than anyone else. Should be Armstrong 4.7.10 (http://armstrongeconomics.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/armstrongeconomics-from-the-hole-9-a-quick-overview-of-key-markets-4-7-10.pdf)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 26, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
PYW, I don't know if you had a chance to read this Armstrong note but you should check it against your cycles. It doesn't include any charting but names times along with some fundamental comments and observations and you know his opinions are worth !0,000% more than anyone else. Should be Armstrong 4.7.10 (http://armstrongeconomics.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/armstrongeconomics-from-the-hole-9-a-quick-overview-of-key-markets-4-7-10.pdf)

In general my timing and that of Armstrong seems to be shifted by only two months
Why it stays shifted I do not know
2012 the end of the world everybody has in is agenda
2016 I have too as well as a back up of 2020 by which time the people that inherited might have to worry
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on April 26, 2010, 02:17:20 AM
The foreign minester of Greece was over visiting Obama and told him that there was little doubt that the euro countries would loan them all the money they needed to come out of their problems. He also said the world bank was standing by with addditional funds should they be needed. He acted as if there were absolutely no problems obtaining credit.  He should have been a CEO with Goldman-Sacks or some of those outfits.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 26, 2010, 02:23:30 AM
The foreign minester of Greece was over visiting Obama and told him that there was little doubt that the euro countries would loan them all the money they needed to come out of their problems. He also said the world bank was standing by with addditional funds should they be needed. He acted as if there were absolutely no problems obtaining credit.  He should have been a CEO with Goldman-Sacks or some of those outfits.

He has no problem getting money but the free market is asking 10% interest on 10 year bonds there were germany can get money at about 3.5% on 10 years
So greece are going to get like 40 billion ; some from the IMF at like 3.5% and the rest from the EU at 5% .
That should last them for this year till they demonstrate they cut the deficit from 14% down to 6% or they failed to do so. If they did the cutting they will get more "cheap" money if not NOT
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 26, 2010, 05:25:21 AM
How you pay 3.5% and 5% interest off when your growth rate is only 2% is beyond me let alone principle. Raise VAT? The situation wouldn't be so dire if everybody and their mother hadn't bet against the EU. The billions in loans will be used to payoff the old bets as new bets are being placed. Here in the States, no word from California who has to make a new budget after just completing one 3 months ago because they/we are already in the red again. Same old story. Revenues down, spending up. Armstrong pretty much addressed all this in the link from my last post.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 26, 2010, 05:39:02 AM
How you pay 3.5% and 5% interest off when your growth rate is only 2% is beyond me let alone principle. Raise VAT? The situation wouldn't be so dire if everybody and their mother hadn't bet against the EU. The billions in loans will be used to payoff the old bets as new bets are being placed. Here in the States, no word from California who has to make a new budget after just completing one 3 months ago because they/we are already in the red again. Same old story. Revenues down, spending up. Armstrong pretty much addressed all this in the link from my last post.

According to basic economic theory ( goldmajestics likes so much ) sovereing debt is supposed never to be paid back because it is supposed to grow at the rate of the economy
The interest is supposed to be paid back by projects earning their keep . And that is the problem . Paying the retirement money of civil servants did not and will not earn anybody a dime . They were virtually useless when they worked and are totally useless now
Soilent Green is the answer  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 26, 2010, 06:16:58 AM
Gee, I didn't realize debt was a good thing. The more debt the better. The whole world should be approaching Nirvana at this point in time maybe just a bit more debt would get us there.

GM always had a problem with reading comprehension. He's at a loss to why the US$ is up and finds it no longer an important indicator (marginalizing).
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 26, 2010, 08:50:14 PM
Gee, I didn't realize debt was a good thing. The more debt the better. The whole world should be approaching Nirvana at this point in time maybe just a bit more debt would get us there.

GM always had a problem with reading comprehension. He's at a loss to why the US$ is up and finds it no longer an important indicator (marginalizing).

In the land of the blind ; one eye is king .
Now that GM has insulted everybody that does not agree he is a great man ;now he is keeping quiet ; that is typical of bullies .

I count the goldrun started in 1999 and the dollar started down in 2001
On my ten year weekly chart the dollar is running into the downsloping resistance
The RSI is giving a secondary neg divergence ( dollar flat and RSI 14 weeks down )

I don't really care since gold has made another all time high in euro yesterday

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 26, 2010, 10:39:30 PM
The king finally accepted the demission of his government.
French television TV1 reported in 28 seconds the belgian problems
The idiots don't even know where Flanders is ( they changed it with wallonia on the chart they used ) Even our dumb dutch neighbours NOS tv used a wrong chart for Belgium

(http://static1.tijd.be/i/00/99/7d.170.jpeg?ts=1272361715000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 27, 2010, 03:43:23 AM
Just sold my "trading" position in Kinross for 5.5% net gain in 10 months yuck uck ck k
I am still stuck in two " trading pos Yamana " double yuck

We seem to be cresting in a micro cycle today ; so all and any repositioning not entailing a loss seems alright to me .

Positioning for a 16 june mini high
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 27, 2010, 05:00:05 AM
It is the end of month where fund managers try to show a gain for their customers by selling for any profits. Manipulation accents the moves.

Gold in Euroland is sensing an electronic printing press event for the Greece bailout. Only a good dose of hyper-inflation will block liquidation caused by debt due, the alternative is bloodshed in the streets.

Not hard to understand NGD pulling back but NG is green so far. Could mark a turning point if they can't beat all the miners down into the red at the end of the day. Anything green at close will attract attention.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 27, 2010, 06:25:47 AM
My daily trading HUI is at 80% slow stoch
So it should not be difficult to slam the miners down
Please do , I got money to buy  ;D

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 27, 2010, 08:37:31 AM
Small window of buying opportunity is closing fast. Get ready to hold onto your hats. NG certainly not shy today.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 27, 2010, 09:09:39 AM
Small window of buying opportunity is closing fast. Get ready to hold onto your hats. NG certainly not shy today.

I am 95 % invested in shares
So I am allright both ways
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on April 27, 2010, 12:47:57 PM
Now just look at those gold prices and their climb...wow!
Maybe this is the reason, along with Wall Street declairing Greece's bonds as 'junk bonds'.
According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), about two thirds of the debt of Greece is held by foreign creditors – an above average value. European Banks are particularly involved. According to data from the Bank for International Settlements, Swiss institutions, at around 68 billion francs, rank as one of the largest donors. Only the French banks, with 80 billion francs [of exposure] have stashed a bit more money in Greece.

But in relation to GDP, the risk to Switzerland, according to FTD, is the highest by far: According to Morgan Stanley economists [Swiss] commitment in Greece comes to almost twelve percent of Swiss GDP. France follows as the largest country in the eurozone at 2.5 percent.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 27, 2010, 01:31:13 PM
I had figured 1350$ for gold to be the year's target , but I think this Greek affair may heat things up a bit.
They have to repay like 7 billion on may 19 th ( citing from memory)
and they are close to paying 19% interest on two year's loans already with junk status
So there will be an early may EU top of politici

Germany is asking a legit question . Why should Germany pay for exhorbitant retirement pensions in Greece ? This retoric has to be seen against local elections going on .
Belgium may have surprise federal elections by 6 june but for the normal flemish-walloon   language fight . 62% of the flemish polled believe belgium will cease to exist within 2 years time .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 27, 2010, 09:21:28 PM
The dollar is breaking out upwards out of a 10 year downchannel
If the dollar can close this hight it will be going up together with gold
What can a euro european ask more  ;D Goldgains and dollargains  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on April 28, 2010, 01:53:13 AM
What can a euro european ask more  ;D Goldgains and dollargains  ;D
The biggest problem that I can see is that the dollargains also have some very odd/restrictive strings attached.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 28, 2010, 02:17:25 AM
What can a euro european ask more  ;D Goldgains and dollargains  ;D
The biggest problem that I can see is that the dollargains also have some very odd/restrictive strings attached.

Only that the euro is falling faster then the dollar  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 28, 2010, 05:34:04 AM
About the only real producer in Euroland is Germany and all their profits are going to go towards debt producers.

As soon as those CDS were booked the manipulation began starting with downgrades everywhere. Whatta racket.

Where's China and India in all this? I though their economies were going to save the day.

What's the difference between TRE and NG.....about 15 million ozs of gold.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 28, 2010, 07:05:54 AM
Small window of buying opportunity is closing fast. Get ready to hold onto your hats. NG certainly not shy today.

I am 95 % invested in shares
So I am allright both ways

One of my old targets suggest today + or -, could be top of 107 day.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 28, 2010, 09:06:26 AM
Small window of buying opportunity is closing fast. Get ready to hold onto your hats. NG certainly not shy today.

I am 95 % invested in shares
So I am allright both ways

One of my old targets suggest today + or -, could be top of 107 day.

I think NO way because the 107 is always subdivided in three cycles and we are still in the second . The third will be end of may or mid june .
And I am still looking to sell some in the second and buy in the third  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 28, 2010, 11:26:08 AM
Miners not in sync. Need them all up or all down for a top or bottom.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 28, 2010, 09:47:18 PM
Miners not in sync. Need them all up or all down for a top or bottom.

I do not think the miners will get in sync before gold is over 1650 $ an ounce and rising
One of the reasons for desync is the money in which they pay their costs and the exchange rate with the US$ at which they sell their gold
The South Africans seem permanently out of sync although the gold price chart looks much like the US chart . In euro gold is making daily all time highs
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 29, 2010, 01:07:44 AM
The Aden sisters expect a 2012 peak too  :D

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/aden042710.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 29, 2010, 05:21:59 AM
At least the sisters recognized an uptrend when they see it.

Miners with depleting reserves will only track the spot price which isn't a bad thing esp. if spot doubles.

Charting miners doesn't indicate reserves except on a lagging basis.

Was reading Euroland  was feared to breakup. Doesn't matter, breakup, stay together, enlarge.......the debt will still be due in part or as a whole. And with the banking system interconnecting worldwide the results will be coming soon to a theater near you.

Waiting for a temporary fix to occur in Euroland but none is available. Choices seem to be meltdown or hyper-inflate, kinda the same thing but with different concluding time lines.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 29, 2010, 06:45:49 AM
At least the sisters recognized an uptrend when they see it.

Miners with depleting reserves will only track the spot price which isn't a bad thing esp. if spot doubles.

Charting miners doesn't indicate reserves except on a lagging basis.

Was reading Euroland  was feared to breakup. Doesn't matter, breakup, stay together, enlarge.......the debt will still be due in part or as a whole. And with the banking system interconnecting worldwide the results will be coming soon to a theater near you.

Waiting for a temporary fix to occur in Euroland but none is available. Choices seem to be meltdown or hyper-inflate, kinda the same thing but with different concluding time lines.

In 1980 every share with the word gold in it doubled or tripled even if they were selling Jona Gold Apples because the last category of investors does not read balance sheets or charts or fact sheets : only the price colon of the local pulp paper

Chart reading is an art which requires experience ; everything known and unknown to the public is included in the price . Reserves are unimportant past 2020 because paper will not buy  gold any more .

Germany actually  created jobs last month and actually  brought unemployment down
Not slow the downturn but stopped and reversed it .
The greek government employees are actually being paid a 13 th and 14 th month which they will loose under the IMF rules . That means Greece will ground to a stop and sink further in the mediterean sea.

I see two solutions : competitive currency devaluations were germany and benelux and france pay for greece, italy,spain,portugal in solidarity
Or a retrenchement of the Eurocountries to those that stuck to the promiss of low budget deficit and the southern states being cast to the debtors who will receive 30 cent on the dollar if they are lucky

Meanwhile the Crimex survived another expiration without imploding  ???

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 29, 2010, 08:40:16 PM
If this article is true then we know why frau merkel of germany is being difficult
Not only does she NOT want to pay the pensions of gov retirees that had a 13 th and 14 th
months all their lives but also she does NOT want to save JPMorgan without bleeding them
first

Quote
JPMorgan’s exposure to the five so-called PIIGS countries is $36.3 billion, equating to 28 percent of the firm’s Tier-1 capital, a measure of financial strength, Wells Fargo analysts including Matthew Burnell wrote today. Morgan Stanley holds $32.4 billion of debt in the region, which equates to 69 percent of its Tier 1 capital, Burnell wrote 


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?sid=a7h1lGnar8Gg&pid=20601087
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 30, 2010, 05:00:14 AM
The crimex got hit for 1700 kilo gold and JPMorgan has to deliver most of it  ;D

Quote
Its delivery time for the May Gold contract on the Comex, and the statistics yesterday showed some interesting buying.

Bank of Nova Scotia 'stopped' 699 big contracts, and issued 100 contracts, for a net takedown of roughly 1.7 tons of gold, the bulk of which was supplied by J.P. Morgan.

As you may recall, the Canadian bullion bank Scotia Mocatta is a subsidiary of Bank of Nova Scotia. Socita Mocatta was recently involved in a bit of a scandal when some investors went to visit 'the vault where their gold was stored' and found it to be surprisingly, perhaps shockingly, undersupplied.

Is BNS acting to back up their paper, or are large investors asking for their bullion in advance? Either way, its an act of good faith on the part of BNS to take the delivery, and probably very smart to do it now 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 30, 2010, 05:03:06 AM
I am following my cycles rigorously now
I forecast last sunday 478 HUI and I sold at 472 just now
 
I sold a quarter of NGD for 22% gain in 5 weeks
I am not greedy  :D
In two or three weeks I will buy something since I am now back to 6% cash
I hope the 16 june high is a whopper and that I find something worth buying  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 30, 2010, 08:14:19 AM
I set sells on NG last night, one ridiculous high price in case of a blow off top and a lower priced sell for normal intra-day action. The low sell hit to the penny but I only dumped 150 shares then forgot to chart a low for today so bought back at market net gain was 20 shares. I'm not ready for the sidelines yet rather be in than out. I'm expecting more movement up even before a minor correction takes place.

Norcini comments that no gaping has occurred in spot just steady buying so this run should continue. Miners aren't gaping either. If there are going to be new highs I doubt it will happen all at once. Need a couple hundred dollar move in spot just to stay on target for the $2000 dollar area that is bound to occur within a year.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 30, 2010, 08:39:52 AM
When slow stoch go over 80 and stay over 80 my secondary sell signal is
39 days momentum high and ema 65 plus 25% piercing the bollinger bands
NGD hit a high and TNX is close to an high

I hope next week to exit a quarter of TNX and a quarter of YRI.TO
That will only leave me with Droopy which should decide up or down

I am 94% in for shares and 100% for physical and ready to continue switching out of
clunkers into movers
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on April 30, 2010, 01:08:05 PM
I don't see it yet. This mini rally might be extended but stair stepping is just strength I don't see any panic to dump or buy. More than enough buyers to cover the profit takers on the way up so far.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 30, 2010, 11:40:25 PM
I did my weekly take
Yamana and GBG were my best performing stocks
I am afraid everything points to a micro peak done or next week for the rally into 16 june
( I would shiver at thinking the parabolic started )
Once again stocks outperformed euro gold by a slim margin

Conclusion
I will try to lighten up some more next week to buy a week or two later other stocks
on NGD I had 22% gains in 5 weeks and that is unsustainable
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 01, 2010, 12:08:46 AM
J. P. Morgan and Charles Schwab have just announced a program to make municipal bonds more available to small investors.




Let's see, record low interest rates and looming risk of default from undisclosed obligations, or perhaps a brisk uptake in inflation. Sounds like a plan (for the big dogs to unload).
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 01, 2010, 12:27:36 AM
The short term peak is nigh ( do not repent)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 01, 2010, 02:47:10 AM
In 1302 the count of flanders fought the mighthy french army
The battle field was well choosen , muddy lowland
The french footsoldiers were winning the battle and the large horse band of french noblemen could not stand footsoldiers winning without the knights being involved
So they overran their own footsoldiers to sunder in the bog of the lowlands
This is the battle of the gold spurs 1302 because it is said 500 goldspurs were recovered on the battlefields
Interesting is also that just before the Bruggse metten had hapened . The flemish asked to say schild en vriend ( shield and friend ) and those that pronounced it as skild and frind were killed because they were french

I happened on this commem of 700 years goldspurs 100 .000 in FDC under blister in kind of pocket book you can read with a sleeve
Looks like the normal 2002 euro series with the knight medal in the middle added
Got it for 14.5 euro which is way below normal asking price
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 01, 2010, 02:49:53 AM
reverse
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 01, 2010, 11:43:58 PM
Quote
An Email Purported to be Making the Rounds of Wall Street

"We are Wall Street. It's our job to make money. Whether it's a commodity, stock, bond, or some hypothetical piece of fake paper, it doesn't matter. We would trade baseball cards if it were profitable. I didn't hear America complaining when the market was roaring to 14,000 and everyone's 401k doubled every 3 years. Just like gambling, its not a problem until you lose. I've never heard of anyone going to Gamblers Anonymous because they won too much in Vegas.

Well now the market crapped out, & even though it has come back somewhat, the government and the average Joes are still looking for a scapegoat. God knows there has to be one for everything. Well, here we are.

Go ahead and continue to take us down, but you're only going to hurt yourselves. What's going to happen when we can't find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We're going to take yours. We get up at 5am & work till 10pm or later. We're used to not getting up to pee when we have a position. We don't take an hour or more for a lunch break. We don't demand a union. We don't retire at 50 with a pension. We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is on your dinner plates, we'll eat that. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 02, 2010, 12:50:16 AM
Quote
An Email Purported to be Making the Rounds of Wall Street
"We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is our dinner plates, we'll eat that.  
You got to hand it those old boys, they are either very tough or else very hungry!  Maybe both!!!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 02, 2010, 02:07:59 AM
Quote
An Email Purported to be Making the Rounds of Wall Street
"We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is our dinner plates, we'll eat that.  
You got to hand it those old boys, they are either very tough or else very hungry!  Maybe both!!!

They say they will be eating your dinner ( or you ) They are just very greedy

Quote
We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is on your dinner plates, we'll eat that.   
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 02, 2010, 02:41:13 AM
Monthly slow stochs for april
Gold gave buy signal with high end of year
HUI gave buy signal with high end of year  :)
Happy times are here again ( for gold bugs)

PS I gave up on the last blue arrow
This charting service keeps shifting it to a month earlier whatever I do either the monthly or weekly are wrong ; so I prefer the monthly to be wrong with the arrow

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 02, 2010, 02:41:32 AM
HUI
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 02, 2010, 07:04:43 AM
To much green for ya huh? It is a bull sector.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 02, 2010, 07:09:51 AM
If don't like green then stay away from NG in the future.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 02, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
I have 100 % in physical gold and still adding ; not trading

I have currently 94% in goldminers and allocated trading up to  15 %  -20 % of that total
but never made it past 12 %

I have been criticized for my trading this weekend on the last two forums were I post
my present thoughts because people cannot keep up with me and after
the facts grudgingly agree I was right again .
They hate corrections and do not want to hear about corrections .
So like Bearvest I will stop posting anything not long term so that you all can feel better
and sleep better . I sent a pm to the moderators of the german forum and still got no answer .

NG and NGD are overbought in all timeframes ; since it is my money I decided to take
some of the table at 20% gain in 5 weeks since I do NOT believe slow stochs are ready to stay above 80% for the next two years . If they do it is my mistake and my bad

Soyo Sonando
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 02, 2010, 01:33:22 PM
It will be interesting to see if a correction takes place or just consolidation showing itself in sideways movement at these levels because it can go up as fast as it came down and most miners are just now back near breakout areas, years later.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 04, 2010, 10:57:32 PM
It will be interesting to see if a correction takes place or just consolidation showing itself in sideways movement at these levels because it can go up as fast as it came down and most miners are just now back near breakout areas, years later.

Next is a 30 or 50 day cycle to complete the 107 cycle
I will be buying by the end of this week or next week
Hasta la Vista

Buy cheeesepeeek says GM only cheeesepeek so he can get rich ::) ;D ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 05, 2010, 01:33:59 AM
Have you seen what Nickel has been doing? Out preforming both gold and silver by quite a bit lately.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 05, 2010, 02:17:43 AM
Have you seen what Nickel has been doing? Out preforming both gold and silver by quite a bit lately.

Yes the chinese need stainless steel
Even machines to make chips for computers did 2 times better then gold
Being a gold bug is up to now a painfull existence  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on May 05, 2010, 09:25:47 AM
If I owned the equipment, and I don't, I would be melting every nickel I could get my hands on. Make nice neat little bars, sit back and wait! And I would be looking at every country that has offered nickel coinage in the past. No laws against melting those over here! I sure need a smelter! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on May 05, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
Terry, Save the U S nickels now....they are 75% copper (3.75 g) and 25% nickel (1.25 g) The 95% copper cent (3.1 g), due to today's copper price, is worth a hair over 2 cents each now for their copper content. I started to collect these 'coppers' 4 yrs ago and have in excess of 10K of them. In 100 yrs from now, people might see an advertisement in a coin publication: "Just Found!! A small hoard of copper pennies! These were used in the previously known country called 'The United States'. Get yours now, as these are some very rare coinage from a now bygone country. ONLY 8 kwats each or 15 kwats for two."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 05, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
I was upgrading a computer for someone I used to work with, $50 for 500gig HD $85 for 4gigs of memory (and that was a good price normally around $100). Couldn't get a CPU I want for $30 bids on Ebay, all went near $40. Can't have everything when you are on a budget not to exceed.

NG never spiked to my sell price so have to sit through this. Did sell some BAA today and added to NGD along with more NG. NGD didn't swing much but NG sure is. NGD is now my largest holding but takes turns with NG.

If deflation continues even base metals and oil will suffer until hyper-inflation takes hold then prices won't rise because of demand just hyper assisted pricing. With so much debt involved I don't see how anyone can afford to create sustained demand anywhere. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 05, 2010, 08:20:10 PM
If I owned the equipment, and I don't, I would be melting every nickel I could get my hands on. Make nice neat little bars, sit back and wait! And I would be looking at every country that has offered nickel coinage in the past. No laws against melting those over here! I sure need a smelter! ;)

When the euro was introduced the old currency became redundant
The chinese bought virtually every nickel bearing coin from France
I don't know about the other countries

If you ever try to melt nickel be carefull , some people can get activated and
get orfully sick even touching nickel after that .
Once you are activated it is for life
It is a recognised professional disease in Europe .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 05, 2010, 08:24:34 PM
I was upgrading a computer for someone I used to work with, $50 for 500gig HD $85 for 4gigs of memory (and that was a good price normally around $100). Couldn't get a CPU I want for $30 bids on Ebay, all went near $40. Can't have everything when you are on a budget not to exceed.

NG never spiked to my sell price so have to sit through this. Did sell some BAA today and added to NGD along with more NG. NGD didn't swing much but NG sure is. NGD is now my largest holding but takes turns with NG.

If deflation continues even base metals and oil will suffer until hyper-inflation takes hold then prices won't rise because of demand just hyper assisted pricing. With so much debt involved I don't see how anyone can afford to create sustained demand anywhere.  

At one moment during the day there was a 8% up in NGD and a 8% down in NG
They ended the day like 5% up in NG and 5% down in NGD
For once in my life I was on the right side with NG only and no NGD
I am gambling we are doing a smal abc down with NGD going to its 65 ema
I will buy there . This correction may be over tomorrow friday if the Dow Jones does
not crash
I am in day 65 of what should be a 90 to 107 days nominal cycle
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: scottishmoney on May 05, 2010, 10:17:58 PM
Boy, the PIGS are sure sinking the Euro eh?  And people seem to be fleeing to gold as of this morn.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 05, 2010, 11:11:28 PM
Boy, the PIGS are sure sinking the Euro eh?  And people seem to be fleeing to gold as of this morn.
I got an estimated 5% extra on my physical gold in two weeks because of the PIIGS
(Portugal,Italy,Ireland,Greece,Spain)
Dollar and gold up is double up in euro  :D

Yesterday I asked a reputable Paris dealer for 6 restrikes of the 20 FF Marianne Rooster
He does 'nt have them ::)

I think the games are about to begin
Only question is whether the Dow Jones will tank or whether there is enough money sloshing around
If the Dow Jones tanks the mining shares initially will tank too to pay for the losses in the other shares

Freddie Mac is asking for another 10 billion please  ::)


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 06, 2010, 05:18:14 AM
I expected the US$ to make .85. Once it's there I'll need to see what formation it makes on the charts. Norcini thinks .89 or so is possible. Depending on how long the other world currencies take to puke will affect on how long the dollar is bought. Could go on for years or panic sets in at anytime. Governments print to band aid over problems. $100 billion will flow from the US to IMF to Greece just for the current bailout as the giant sucking sound is debt acting like a black hole.

Spot gold wide awake, miners still slumber on.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 06, 2010, 05:35:52 AM
Estimates are that 2 Trillion is needed to kickstart the Euro
I think the way things are going this year is going to see who is the winner to zero value
for the fiat money
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 06, 2010, 06:39:27 AM
Minefinders was just on sale for 7% discount
So I took a trading position at 8.87 US$
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 06, 2010, 07:44:32 AM
PMPIX might close up today as major miners will attract buyers with their dividends. Had MFN for a year or two, did okay but there is no excuse for what the chart looks like the past year.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 06, 2010, 08:05:12 AM
Hey PYW, did you know your pal Dharma is now the resident genius at gold Stool. Calling for an uptrend in a bull sector takes real foresight, it's no wonder guys like Obama get elected.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on May 06, 2010, 08:32:16 AM
Gold up $32/oz today to $1207/oz....Oh Goodie!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 06, 2010, 11:25:44 PM
Hey PYW, did you know your pal Dharma is now the resident genius at gold Stool. Calling for an uptrend in a bull sector takes real foresight, it's no wonder guys like Obama get elected.

Well he and GM can have the forum
I just needled them saying my charts told me to buy Minefinders and I made 3.75% in a few minutes.
He still has access to my charts somehow since he changed his never proven song and dance to a june high . Does not say why because he cannot tell he parrots and steals and duplicates whatever comes his way
I do not care anymore to explain myself . Like seven of eleven I am going to fade away
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 06, 2010, 11:28:22 PM
PMPIX might close up today as major miners will attract buyers with their dividends. Had MFN for a year or two, did okay but there is no excuse for what the chart looks like the past year.
MFN and YRI.TO have been my fav trading vehicles for two years now
My current core is at less then half their current price due to trading
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 06, 2010, 11:30:49 PM
The end has started
They now openly agree to manipulate anything they do not like
And they do not like gold but short of forbidding it to americans again they are out of options

Quote
Nasdaq to Cancel All Trades of Stocks Moving More Than 60%
By Michael P. Regan

May 6 (Bloomberg) — Nasdaq OMX Group Inc. said it will cancel all trades of stocks at prices that were 60 percent above or below the last price at 2:40 p.m. or immediately prior.

The exchange operator said in a statement it will cancel all trades "greater than or less than 60 percent away from the consolidated last print in that security at 14:40:00 or immediately prior."

Nasdaq said it coordinated the decision with all other exchanges. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 06, 2010, 11:35:49 PM
Quote
    “Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate."
    Dante Alighieri, The Inferno, Canto III, 9


US equities were gripped by panic selling as the Dow plunged almost 1,000 points driven by a cascade of 100 share high frequency program trading, estimated to have been about 80% of volume. Gold rocketed higher to $1,210.

The stock exchange circuit breakers do not effectively apply after 2:30 PM NY time unless the market declines over 20% and they close the exchange for the day.
 

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

For those not versed in Italian and or Dante it says " Leave all hope behind , those of you that enter this hell " ( free translation)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on May 06, 2010, 11:39:31 PM
HOW WILL ENGLANDS POLITICAL PROBLEMS THAT I JUST HEARD ON THE RADIO EFFECT GOLD AND SILVER?........WILL THIS CREATE SOME PROBLEMS ??? ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 12:01:03 AM
England is non Euro and I do not think anybody cares  ::)
in the euro zone .
We got problems of our own you know  :D

Gold is going to move if they can attack Spain or Italy .
Yesterday they tried to attack Belgium but that did not work
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on May 07, 2010, 12:14:12 AM
WE ARE JUST BEGINNING TO FEEL THE PROBLEMS CREATED BY THE OIL DERRICK ACCIDENT IN THE GULF---GASOLINE IS RIGHT AROUND $3 OR JUST OVER...I KNOW SOME IN THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD KILL FOR $3 BUT WE ARE VERY CAR DEPENDENT AND SPOILED----PLUS ALL THE INDUSTRIES ALONG THE GULF---THE FISHERIES ETC---WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS COLOSSAL ERROR EVEN THOUGH OUR FEARLESS LEADER CLAIMS THAT THE COMPANY WILL BE PAYING FOR IT-----I SHOULD LIVE SO LONG.....
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 12:23:48 AM
WE ARE JUST BEGINNING TO FEEL THE PROBLEMS CREATED BY THE OIL DERRICK ACCIDENT IN THE GULF---GASOLINE IS RIGHT AROUND $3 OR JUST OVER...I KNOW SOME IN THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD KILL FOR $3 BUT WE ARE VERY CAR DEPENDENT AND SPOILED----PLUS ALL THE INDUSTRIES ALONG THE GULF---THE FISHERIES ETC---WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS COLOSSAL ERROR EVEN THOUGH OUR FEARLESS LEADER CLAIMS THAT THE COMPANY WILL BE PAYING FOR IT-----I SHOULD LIVE SO LONG.....

I already read somewhere there is a legal limit as to the liability of BP
You would not want to scare their shareholders would you ?
What I do not understand is why the mericans could not drill the oil in their backyard themselves but then again you never ever had an energy plan or a president interested in one
Like the English count ? said
"If you cannot avoid rape , lie back and enjoy it "
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 07, 2010, 01:58:58 AM
Well now PYW, gold made it all the way up to $1,210.70 before fallig off to $1,199.25 this morning. Does this mark the high spot for this time around or is there still a slight recovery to even higher prices to come in the near future?  The last couple of days you would have heard me say 'I should have waited' more than once.....oh well, such is life!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 02:18:42 AM
Well now PYW, gold made it all the way up to $1,210.70 before fallig off to $1,199.25 this morning. Does this mark the high spot for this time around or is there still a slight recovery to even higher prices to come in the near future?  The last couple of days you would have heard me say 'I should have waited' more than once.....oh well, such is life!

30th of may or 16th of june are two centers for a new high that may hold till the year high in november or possibly in october.
I have now 3% of cash because next week may be a lower price for the goldminers and a last trading op to buy in may for a sell in june

I have been able repeatedly to sell within the exact high apart of a few cents but yesterday may be the first time I bought near the exact low , when they were running all stops also on minefinders

I do not plan to sell physical gold before we are at 2250$ baring contradictory evidence
but this may be 2012 or thereafter
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 03:12:46 AM
NG down 5% again today but both fibbers and fan say no dice yet  :(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 05:15:54 AM
bwahaha
The evening news speaks about a stockmarket panic because the belgian banks went down 4% today ; them having greaseball paper  :D
There will be emergency meetings and germany and france are going to see to it that this does not happen again to the euro  :o
They do not understand this is the beginning of the end for all fiat
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 07, 2010, 05:42:23 AM
bwahaha
The evening news speaks about a stockmarket panic because the belgian banks went down 4% today ; them having greaseball paper  :D
There will be emergency meetings and germany and france are going to see to it that this does not happen again to the euro  :o
They do not understand this is the beginning of the end for all fiat

Bankers know it's the end of fiat but will eat their own jockeying for position to be first in line for the next new replacement fiat issue. Governments are just upset there is no room to tax anymore or can they? Sure if they want more riots in the streets. They never stop spending. Always spending more than they take in.

Gold will set new highs until September with all the usual drama on the way up now til then. Miners still on sale.

I remember buying NG when it was crashing in a panic, bought in the $1.50 area not to long ago. Been trading it's recovery the whole way back up.

Only a few see your charts around here PYW. Go back to stealth mode and see what happens.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 05:58:50 AM
German is a strange language just like Flemish ( Germanic language strain )
On the German forum somebody said he could not follow me since I was going too fast
and so I felt offended the way it was phrased
A moderator said I am an oak and if somebody wants to piss against me to take no notice
I better behave like an elephant though ; not minding the porcelain in the shop

I will think of dharma as a tick on a sheepdog and just go on

I am watching NG on a one minute chart . If they run the stops I will buy
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 06:01:56 AM
Our flemish television was able to film a gsm with Sharon Stone glued to it
She is in antwerp for Largo Whinch II film
The main male actor was passing his time with a teleguided minicar
She literally camped in a huge camper  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 06:31:36 AM
@ whadda

you gone and done it - made my head spin-

I took a testposition of 500 NG at slow stoch 30%
Now it is going to go into freefall  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 06:33:59 AM
The evidence

Exhibit A
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 07, 2010, 07:47:13 AM
I don't think NG is under attack. It had a nice little run and profit taking occurring.  I see it hit $7.56us already today. Red line should be good support. Fibs don't lie.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 07, 2010, 08:52:51 AM
I don't think NG is under attack. It had a nice little run and profit taking occurring.  I see it hit $7.56us already today. Red line should be good support. Fibs don't lie.

There is a lot of shifting around going on
Tanzanian broke upwards GBG broke upwards to fall back ; South Africans are going up etc
Gold in euro today at an all time high again (closing price) and slow stoch stays at 100%
I have rarely seen a slow stoch stay dead at 100% although at a closing price only this is a lot easier then
at full range prices
Next week should see a bottom in goldminers
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 07, 2010, 04:06:44 PM
I don't think NG is under attack. It had a nice little run and profit taking occurring.  I see it hit $7.56us already today. Red line should be good support. Fibs don't lie.

There is a lot of shifting around going on
Tanzanian broke upwards GBG broke upwards to fall back ; South Africans are going up etc
Gold in euro today at an all time high again (closing price) and slow stoch stays at 100%
I have rarely seen a slow stoch stay dead at 100% although at a closing price only this is a lot easier then
at full range prices
Next week should see a bottom in goldminers.
Stoch is pegged because Euroland is in the midst of a meltdown. If they don't come up with a better plan like in cutting spending the future looks bleak with all the debt involved.

With spot up I just didn't take the chance of selling more NG, oh well. Have some bucks left to keep adding when I feel like it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 08, 2010, 12:26:41 AM
Apart from emergency deposits overnight at three banks I am now fully invested
I think the miner bottom is close if the Dow Jones does not drop a few thousand points and the miners follow

Since I am heavily in gold and miners ; the worse greece and the EU get the more money I make . So the dollar up and gold up is twice money in the bank
I am getting nervous though. Like I said on the stool a few times . I get nervous when I make lots of money three weeks in a row . >:( Really  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 08, 2010, 01:33:17 AM
And yes I know how beautifull life can be ........( Longnine would know from which song these lines are that keep repeating in my head )

Hurst promisses HUI 509

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Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: scottishmoney on May 08, 2010, 01:37:07 AM
I lament the high price of petrol, but take comfort that whence it is nigh, the gold goes high and stabilizes matters.  Meanwhile the vaunted Euro takes a dip in the abyss that the dollar did awhile back.  


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 08, 2010, 05:40:49 AM
I lament the high price of petrol, but take comfort that whence it is nigh, the gold goes high and stabilizes matters.  Meanwhile the vaunted Euro takes a dip in the abyss that the dollar did awhile back.  

We pay more then 10 $ a gallon for high octane gazoline for cars
After crisis meeting X it was decided the EU will defend the euro at all costs
There is another crisis meeting tomorrow
Because of competitions fights my supermarket bill is coming down . Because of all the antics my gold is going up . Let the games continue Nero said before he burned Rome

68 US banks down the drain
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRVsqkRolq1c&pos=4
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 09, 2010, 09:04:48 PM
The Euro has a cool TRILLION dollars in stand by to kill all undercapitalised invaders
Even the chinese and other eastern were impressed ; their stockmarkets shooting up 2.5%

Yesterday Merkel lost the provincial elections and as a result the majority in the german senate with her 2 party coalition. The germans punished her for helping save the greeks

The english DARLING said he does not care to help the euro ; well I am sure when the time comes we won't care to help the non sterling paper pound

Half of the airports are closed again for volcanic ash

The worst is that gold is 4.5% down in euro in a single night. Their goes my
birthday present and dinner down the drain in a single night  :D
Lucky I bougth my present last night  ;D

It seems the US has too many dollars since they are "shipping" them to us

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2510176/posts
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on May 10, 2010, 12:16:33 AM
On the general market looks like should bail/ sell at a double top or around May 20. Last week was THE warning. End of June look at getting back in for a couple of months.
Gold has changed, as shown by last week.
Hoping for a fast hard fall this week for adding to physical. Silver is a major consideration.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 10, 2010, 12:24:08 AM
On the general market looks like should bail/ sell at a double top or around May 20. Last week was THE warning. End of June look at getting back in for a couple of months.
Gold has changed, as shown by last week.
Hoping for a fast hard fall this week for adding to physical. Silver is a major consideration.

Whether physical gold falls further then the 4.5% it did in euro will have to be demonstrated at the US market opening
Fact is that the dealers in Belgium have a 4% spread between buy and sell which means
that in theory they are selling with a 0.5% loss today .
I was promissed quotes to buy on friday and not surprisingly I am not getting any quotes
The people that bid up small coins on ebay are now stuck at 7-9% over spot with their bids that end tonight  ;D
I bought 8 ounces of silver in one giant washington mint piece for 16% below spot of friday . On all the gold coins I was second or umptheenth bidder

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 10, 2010, 05:15:30 AM
Happy Birthday PYW. Everyone deserves a present for living/surviving through another year of this crap.

This is all I could afford to give for a gift, straight cash.......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 10, 2010, 06:30:18 AM
Happy Birthday PYW. Everyone deserves a present for living/surviving through another year of this crap.

This is all I could afford to give for a gift, straight cash.......

Only 50 Million ? Common you can do better then that  ;D :D ;)

What hurts me most is that the physical I bought and enjoyed for 10 years now appreciates faster then any miner shares I try to select and trade and time  >:(
I could have been playing computer games and watch films for 10 years instead of analyzing the goldmarket  :(
I started on Battlestar Gallactica the series and sofar I got to the middle of season 2  :)
I am getting Friday the 13th for future torture . I allready got the 12 films and now
am working on getting season 1 of the series
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 10, 2010, 08:41:34 AM
We've had to live through the manipulation for 10 years and things are about to change as manipulators flip and go along for the ride with miners. You should have learned to pick out the strong well run miners as they take the lead into the future. Even EW will work now as it tracks mob mentality, it never was for fundamentalists was it? One stock share will begin to leverage more ounces of gold than one unit of any paper currency.

Old season Star Trek is always a favorite. I have the first five seasons of House MD to pass the time.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 10, 2010, 08:51:50 AM
We've had to live through the manipulation for 10 years and things are about to change as manipulators flip and go along for the ride with miners. You should have learned to pick out the strong well run miners as they take the lead into the future. Even EW will work now as it tracks mob mentality, it never was for fundamentalists was it? One stock share will begin to leverage more ounces of gold than one unit of any paper currency.

Old season Star Trek is always a favorite. I have the first five seasons of House MD to pass the time.

I think I only got three miners that disappoint me
Droopy for ever
Harmony on and off
and I am getting sick of Kinross ; I allready unloaded a quarter at the ema65 line and going to do it again in the coming cycle top

I just lost a bid on a Louis XV gold coin in MS 63
Can you believe I upped by 110 euro and was second bidder ? The third bidder was 115 euro behind so the vendor is going to be content
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 10, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
You can start selling soon instead of being a buyer then get it back during those wild 'everything is fine now' swings.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 10, 2010, 09:08:08 AM
You can start selling soon instead of being a buyer then get it back during those wild 'everything is fine now' swings.

I think the time of the mood swings is nearly over . We had a depression and a slight let up of the
downward pressure . From now on it will be moneyprinting for everybody
We will have very large weekly fluctuations but unpredictable due to computertrading
Volatility demands very nimble thinking .
I may start selling at 1200 euro an ounce ( let ' s call it 1600$ )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 11, 2010, 01:46:35 AM
And here we go
The horses are out the starting gate
Miners up 3-4% on the open
Silver going vertical

All other shares bleeding
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on May 11, 2010, 07:53:59 AM
The dollar is up but so is gold! Whats that tell you. The ladder is in place and the climb has started! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 11, 2010, 09:07:58 AM
The dollar is up but so is gold! Whats that tell you. The ladder is in place and the climb has started! ;)

For the first time an ounce of gold is being bought by exchange agents at 1000 Euro and sold at 1050 euro today .
Banksters are betting against the euro again today ; that is why the dollar is up .
They know the dollar can be printed freely as the reserve currency
They will first try to take out the euro
Banksters can easily generate 10 trillion euro short in CDO's and we only have one trillion monopoly money to counter them .
But on paper balances we got more gold then the US if we have any left or if the US has any left
In the end the dollar will probably be lower then the euro today if the two manage to survive the slaughterhouse that is coming
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 11, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
This is unbelievable

Quote
Bloomberg reports that GM Considers Buying back GMAC

Or starting a new unit.

Having its own financing unit will 'increase its profitabiltiy.'

    "As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool doth repeat his folly." Proverbs 26:11


Unless of course you get to keep the gains, and a greater fool, the public, assumes your losses.

It's good to be the King, but cheaper to lease one.
 

I know my dogs will eat their vomit immidiately after , but then again they are real animals
not bread like GM who is a would be animal . Use the spray can to kill only with open windows  ;D for your own protection use gloves and don't inhale the fumes  ???

Is there time for a round two of saving those to big to fail ? I don't think so >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 11, 2010, 09:24:07 AM
Quote
(Reuters) – Nearly 40 million Americans received food stamps — the latest in an ever-higher string of record enrollment that dates from December 2008 and the U.S. recession, according to a government update.

My best american boss who was pensioned off as vice president of Tuperware told me how it pissed him off that he bought normal steak and people with foodstamps would buy sirloin or better quality
But then again his wife and daughters were big spenders . He was frugal  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 11, 2010, 08:15:15 PM
I read some quote about hedge funds could manufacture shorts faster than Euroland could print money.

Germany leaving the EU might work as it would let the remaining satellite countries devalue the euro against German fiat which I think they already use in the black markets there cause it was stronger than euro all along. Mean while, California is back to making a new budget due to tax revenue short falls, like that is any surprise but now it's happening.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 11, 2010, 09:20:28 PM
Today is a decisive day for the South African miners
Droopy allready has ten times the normal volume before noon but only managed a one cent breakout sofar .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 12, 2010, 06:07:49 AM
To whom it may concern

Sold a third of my core position in NGD for 6.60 cad and 36% gain
Slow stochs in month, week, day time frame all above 80%
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 12, 2010, 06:28:24 AM
Always good to realize profits but NGD just ceased being a penny stock and funds will notice. It's holdings are now stronger than when it was a $10 stock.

Long term Droopy chart just looks sick and I don't mean in a good way. That area of the world has governments making more and more demands on miners and declining production doesn't help only spot being up helps.

I'm holding tight here for the time being. Only some sort of ingenious plan to save the Euro could upset this run now.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 12, 2010, 09:03:47 PM
Only NGD is overbougth in all timespans and all indicators

Oceana is next going way overbougth

Droopy had a technical breakout with a 7% target  ??? >:( ???
All I want to do is get out without too much pain ( loss 33% at the moment)

I see dharma has now 20 june has high ( he is counting my charts wrongly somewhere )
Based on momentum I think the high will be in three weeks but I am ready for
an early high before 30 may if it should happen

I will further realign my portfolio to smaller canadian miners

This should be of intrest ; one of the well known internet shops of gold and silver
in germany closed yesterday since it is sold out . Belgian exchange agents are now
buying gold at 4% over spot
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 13, 2010, 05:44:05 AM
I just meant to say miners like NGD don't swing much. If exiting the position to move on to something else that's great but if you are waiting to buy back in lower then it may not be worth the trouble, at least not this time around. Even NG is just consolidating.

Too bad about Droopy. The rule is usually to exit a losing position early. You can wait for a retrace but I think other miners will be outperforming during the same time period like by double. When I get stuck like that I go for more shares by selling a position and use the funds to buy double or more shares in a lesser valued but rising stock. At least makes me feel better. GSS comes to mind but there are a lot to choose from. Sell half and you can be half right and half wrong. Producing miners under $5 are still a steal.

Dhama just throwing numbers around never shows his work. BV still being a bear, EW must be a chronic condition or genetic, this is the second major chart move he missed in row.

4% over spot, kool. Remember I asked about selling back 100oz JM silver bars, they offered like 5% over spot that was about a year ago.

I'm not worried about overbought but the corrections. Will miners consolidate at high price levels or swing wildly? Today they seem to be consolidating. That's why I'm holding on this time around.

Oceana is a good looking chart. long term, short term.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on May 13, 2010, 08:22:03 AM
Only NGD is overbougth in all timespans and all indicators

Oceana is next going way overbougth

Droopy had a technical breakout with a 7% target  ??? >:( ???
All I want to do is get out without too much pain ( loss 33% at the moment)

I see dharma has now 20 june has high ( he is counting my charts wrongly somewhere )
Based on momentum I think the high will be in three weeks but I am ready for
an early high before 30 may if it should happen

I will further realign my portfolio to smaller canadian miners

This should be of intrest ; one of the well known internet shops of gold and silver
in germany closed yesterday since it is sold out . Belgian exchange agents are now
buying gold at 4% over spot

I see a bottom of some sort Mid June then a two month blast. How does that fit with your thinking?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 13, 2010, 09:15:10 AM
I looked at charts all morning
First gold and miners seem to sync as to the top in time - find the top in gold and you have the top in miners
Second gold is on a 90 or a 107 nominal cycle which formally ends 30 may or 16 june
( 107 for 9 years but since the early december 2009 high looks shorter ; first cycle 2010 was 90 days )
I am looking at all secondary oscilators to see which is which . Now since individual shares will be sooner or later then HUI  i sold part of NGD
( whadda I am looking allready at another batch of possibles to swing into )

Today I sold Anglogold 1/3 . This leaves me with 900 euro gain and the other 2/3 marked to zero bookvalue  :D on top of the gain

I am still looking at selling part of Oceana when the momentum hits an historical high.
No share can stay forever more then 25% above ema65 ; so relatively better sell

Dharmaeye the bottom should be 30 to 50 days after the minitop which is not in yet I think so I figure bottom at the start of july to mid july or later
I am reading tealeafs daily now untill I figure the top is in for this cycle
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 13, 2010, 11:37:16 AM
Gee PYW, you might try buying a few Deutsche Marks for pocket change. Temporarily should be a strong fiat. A gamble would be buying shares in the Frankfurt Stock Exchange but only for a short period of time.

Domino England is the next falling major currency, eventually leading to the US$ collapse but for now the dollar is still the world's reserve currency, the last to go down. Oil at $100 bucks a barrel with no demand will confirm inflation is upon us. Today's Norcini chart and comments sums things up nicely along with the channel lines. Short term a close below the channel and a correction occurs, a close above the channel and it's time to take profits or sell outright. Mid term support will be the middle channel line for any return trips once it is cleared.

Maybe there isn't that many well run producers below $5 since are all moving up so pickings might be few.

A few miners left that weren't beaten up today like TGB Oceana FMN CRK and some pink sheets listing. If they don't get beat up tomorrow with rest of the miners then the run continues in earnest. Careful, it's getting ugly out.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 13, 2010, 01:30:58 PM
For those of you that are interested. Meltup (Video Documentary) (http://inflation.us/videos.html)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 13, 2010, 01:53:39 PM
Wake up! PYW! This is no time to be sleeping. Can you verify this rumor?
Breaking News, Germany to Leave the Euro This Weekend? (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2513108/posts)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 13, 2010, 09:57:57 PM
Wake up! PYW! This is no time to be sleeping. Can you verify this rumor?
Breaking News, Germany to Leave the Euro This Weekend? (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2513108/posts)

I do not believe the rumour
Details were that supermarkets and all have been ordered to leave the euro sign off prices
One would be able to change 1000 euro against 1000 Dmark and the rest of the money would be put in limbo ( kind of frozen on the accounts)

Merkel has lost her majority so they are now coalition decisions ( she cannot govern germany alone anymore . Moreover they would have to notify the EU or they might find themselves out of the no customs no borders union as well.

Fact is that ebay gold prices are now 15 % over melt on ebay germany . So some belief.
Summery : Anything is possible but I doubt it
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 13, 2010, 10:05:44 PM
Monday 17 th may
Breaking news
Due to the cold weather the Dmark has been delayed

(http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/3436202/img/3436202.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 13, 2010, 10:43:24 PM
ahaha
The german forum says France is going to leave

http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/france-germany-euro.4p7
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 14, 2010, 01:11:59 AM
In the end, only Greece will have all the uros, and borrowing from them... ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 14, 2010, 03:27:22 AM
In the end, only Greece will have all the uros, and borrowing from them... ;)

They only took 20 billion pocket money this week  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 15, 2010, 12:58:36 AM
I am sure a miner reaction is coming and it might be severe since I am up 8% in two weeks on my portfolio
I think next week or in three weeks is the intermidiate top and the down 20 to 30 % as usual
So I am in distribution mode untill I decide the top is in
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 15, 2010, 05:03:33 AM
If the local soothsayers are seeing $1650 - $2000 in our near future spot price then it has to run at least about $400. 30% gains in a miner will be considered under-performing.l
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 15, 2010, 05:40:58 AM
If the local soothsayers are seeing $1650 - $2000 in our near future spot price then it has to run at least about $400. 30% gains in a miner will be considered under-performing.l

I agree BUT

My year high is for nov most likely or oct or sept to cover my ass
Miners have been underperforming for 10 years now
We have the dolldrums of july and august before us

Summing up : for the person that is right and nimble an extra 20% gain are possible together with a repositioning of the portfolio to juniors or start up situations or turnaround situations. In the final years of the goldbull the miners should do 3 to 5 times better percent wise then gold . Obviously this time has not come yet.
I have to reposition since half my portfolio are dinosaurs or stricktly trading shares
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 15, 2010, 05:52:05 AM
If whiskey burns your throat try this alternate method.
'Drinking' neat vodka through your EYE for a quick buzz?  (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2514170/posts)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 15, 2010, 05:53:52 AM
Is the ECU like "Hotel California?"
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 15, 2010, 06:09:11 AM
Stay diversified. major and minor currently producing, soon to be producing and then the wannabe long shots. Weight according to reserves.

NG and a partner want to build a 300 mile natural gas pipeline (12"?) to power a future mining operation in Alaska. They actually had windmills farms and huge diesel storage tanks for generator/equipment fuel on the drawing board but just scrapped that in favor of nat. gas. Smart move.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 15, 2010, 06:20:28 AM
If whiskey burns your throat try this alternate method.
'Drinking' neat vodka through your EYE for a quick buzz?  (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2514170/posts)

TV just reported that our new craze is drinking till you drop
They get dozens at first aid every weekend ( that went over the line )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 15, 2010, 06:21:55 AM
Is the ECU like "Hotel California?"

Seven of eleven would say " question does not compute " please input further data
( in other words I am lost as to the first and second part of the question )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 15, 2010, 06:13:12 PM
Is the ECU like "Hotel California?"

Seven of eleven would say " question does not compute " please input further data
( in other words I am lost as to the first and second part of the question )

Per the lyrics in the song,

 "...And she said we are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the master's chambers,
They gathered for the feast
The stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can't kill the beast..."

"You can check out anytime you like but you can never leave!"

i.e. Germany and France
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2010, 01:32:04 AM
ah yes

I tend to swing on the music and not listen to the lyrics because when I was younger then 15 I had no english training and when I was older I found they slurr the lyrics so much I cannot understand them

One of my family's best friends was Frank Pugh an English soldier who married a flemish girl in 1945 and staid on forever till he died
One saturday we spend all afternoon trying to figure out the text of A whiter shade of pale
Can you believe an English born listening 20 times to a record and still not understanding all the words ?

Nowedays of course you put lyrics and whiter shade of pale in a metacrawler and up will come the text ( I never use google )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2010, 05:17:18 AM
And finally I got my Sacagawea
8 oz heavy by the Washington Mint
0.999 pure silver with a gold coat

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3146&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2010, 05:22:15 AM
I got the medal with box and cert for 15% below melt because everybody thought it was
a fake and the vendor was too stupid to copy the certificate and pay for the ebay upload of an extra photo  ;D

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3149&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 16, 2010, 08:26:49 PM
That was a nice buy. What is the actual size of the coin and is that layering soft like regular gold? ('One half pound' stamped right on it, that's kinda funny)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
That was a nice buy. What is the actual size of the coin and is that layering soft like regular gold? ('One half pound' stamped right on it, that's kinda funny)

There is a certificate from the Washington Mint ( I am more acquainted with the Franklin Mint ) it is 3.5 inches in diameter at 0.999 silver
It is a proof with 24 carat layering (gold equivalent to the canadian 0.99999 so called five nines )
Even looking at it would scratch it
Actually the gold layering makes sense since the silver does not start to oxidize and in this way gold has a usefull function since the price is in the silver and the gold is only an antioxydant protector.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2010, 11:37:39 PM
That was a nice buy. What is the actual size of the coin and is that layering soft like regular gold? ('One half pound' stamped right on it, that's kinda funny)

The one half pound is even creazier since it is avoirdupois and not troy
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2010, 11:42:12 PM
Yesterday very late ; after 10 days of inquiry; I got an answer from the biggest coin house in Paris ( France )
They are willing to sell me restrikes;  uncirculated; marianne roosters for 3.5% above melt
Since our exchange agents are asking 4.05% above melt for XF or better I told them
I was buying .
I think my buying days are ending
Sad  :-\
One ounce coins are 8.02% over melt this morning.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2010, 11:45:12 PM
Yesterday very late ; after 10 days of inquiry; I got an answer from the biggest coin house in Paris ( France )
They are willing to sell me restrikes;  uncirculated; marianne roosters for 3.5% above melt
Since our exchange agents are asking 4.05% above melt for XF or better I told them
I was buying .
I think my buying days are ending
Sad  :-\
One ounce coins are 8.02% over melt this morning.

Two ounces are 150 $ more then the maximum non government pension now
at 2000 euro pension limit for non government employees
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
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Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Nevol on May 17, 2010, 08:33:40 AM
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Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 17, 2010, 07:20:55 PM
PYW? Check out Rainy River Resources Ltd. (TSX VENTURE: RR), reserves up to 5 million ounces of gold and growing, not ready for production yet though. (How's that half pound paperweight doing?)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 18, 2010, 12:02:47 AM
PYW? Check out Rainy River Resources Ltd. (TSX VENTURE: RR), reserves up to 5 million ounces of gold and growing, not ready for production yet though. (How's that half pound paperweight doing?)

Attention all riverboat gamblers
We had a gold micro high on 13 may
This is a confirmed 30-35 day cycle high in gold and miners
It is unclear whether this is also the nominal 107 day high ( unlikely but possible )
This gives thursday or friday as possible buying opportunity for another 30 day cycle
ending in the 107 day cycle on june 16th

I am low on NG and NGD which in this reaction may come close to their 65 ema

My wife get's too many visitors to have paperweights lying around ; they would oeh and aaah over the goldlike appearance and want one like it ; which since it was only once on ebay since I started watching in 2003 would make it difficult to comply .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on May 18, 2010, 02:43:21 AM
Found this guys charts valuable. Also tends to be consistent with other thoughts. That is, Mid June buy till August.
http://astrocycle.net/Gold.php?DIV=CRB
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 18, 2010, 03:33:05 AM
Found this guys charts valuable. Also tends to be consistent with other thoughts. That is, Mid June buy till August.
http://astrocycle.net/Gold.php?DIV=CRB

Thanks for the charts ; this is the first time I see anybody else using 11 months
The 11 and 22 months cycles are the ones seven of eleven and later I have been tracking for 10 years now
The 11 month cycle subdivides in 3 times 107 days alternating with 3 times 111 days subcycles
It looks as if this time around day 107 is on 16 june and is a peak so buying op would be starting around mid july . The way the 11 months are drawn is that the peaks are allright but the lows allways are early or late . So buying in june should be wrong I think .
Selling in june is more like it in order to buy back 30 days or so later ( 1/3rd into the last 107 nominal cycle )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 18, 2010, 06:12:14 AM
Wow they ramped up all one oz coins to 5% over melt buy and 10% over melt sell  :)
in cointrafficking belgium
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 18, 2010, 09:01:38 PM
If this was only a 35 days cycle top I think today or tomorrow should see the bottom allready
Osisko is down 16% in 4 days

I will be looking this afternoon at Osisko and Novagold which seem to have the better looking charts in Monthly, weekly, dayly slow stochs ( not as overbought anymore then NGD eg )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 18, 2010, 09:10:36 PM
Ignoring protest of the UK germany's Merkel has declared naked shorts and CDO's betting agains the currency illigal
Golden Sack is furious
This opens default as a possibility just like China did a while ago with swaps that turned billions against the factory owners
She says it is a war of state against banks and she intends to win by driving the car and not sit in the back of the car like BO who is only offering platitudes but no action . Way to go ; score one on Merkel .

Shakespeare should have said that a banker at the bottom of the sea is a good start
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: scottishmoney on May 19, 2010, 12:35:23 AM
CNN Money has a story predicting gold will be $800 by the end of the year.  Other stories shoot it up to $1500, $1700 in the same period.  Oh the oracles of Wall St. - should I believe the effers who couldn't prognosticate the banking failures?  Uh huh(http://www.scottishmoney.net/avatars/pissie.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 19, 2010, 02:47:04 AM
I have my first goldpeak in 2012 scheduled
I will sent the market an open lettre to let it know my expectations  8)

Just bought a full position of novagold because it was the first to have slow stochs of 20%
amongst the miners I track
I still speculate that after this brief drop we go higher into 16 june
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 19, 2010, 02:04:19 PM
Unless these countries wise up and issue a new currency interest fee and let all others devalue against it then the bankers win because there is to much debt to do anything else except pay it off for generations to come with worldwide 1% or 2% growth until it's paid off because governments only now how to spend more and tax more which just adds more to the debt total.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 19, 2010, 11:37:13 PM
I put my money where my mouth is
All in gold and miners now with only emergency reserves left
I should have bought Osisko instead of NG
I would have been up 5% allready
I go for a 16 june high
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 20, 2010, 01:36:53 AM
Unless these countries wise up and issue a new currency interest fee and let all others devalue against it then the bankers win because there is to much debt to do anything else except pay it off for generations to come with worldwide 1% or 2% growth until it's paid off.
What good is issuing NEW anything, it's all printed by the same people....the bankers are the government and have always been.  Who did you think runs these countries if not the banks???  What is going on now is what's called 'sucking the blood out of the turnip'.
You might want to read (if you haven't all ready done so) the book "The Great Money Myth" by Bob Livingston.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: scottishmoney on May 20, 2010, 03:34:04 AM
There are rampant rumours rife in Europe now that Greece will either leave the Euro band or be forced out - and that it is printing drachma currency as a contingency.  I wouldn't worry so much about what Greece does or doesn't do, rather it is Italy, Spain and Portugal that can cause the real problems.  Right now Italy's debt vs. GDP is 115% and is actually higher than Greece's.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on May 20, 2010, 05:35:48 AM
Those rumors seem to be more factual than false as the stock markets are acting accordingly today. DOWN! Will be anxious to see what this day does to the gold and silver prices!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 20, 2010, 05:44:05 AM
The rumors are near an impossibility
To force a member out all the other members have to be unanimous in their voting
and that won't happen
For Greece to leave is to hang itself and that would be kind of crazy

The real issue is if Germany would decide to leave ; then the last man standing can switch
off the light

Tuesday is option expiration : until then anything can and will happen

In the meantime the new diversion technique on Television was an american cyclist
accusing everybody and Lance Armstrong of taking drugs and flushing the evidence
out after the race by a bloodtransfusion

Like emperor Nero said ; give them bread and games ( and then burn down Rome if it
does not work anymore )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 20, 2010, 05:52:11 AM
I'm familiar with the banking system, that's why, let's say, the US Treasury were to issue a new interest free currency and Congress proclaims the IRS will only accept the new currency for payments, that would take the Federal Reserve out of the picture. I understand the banks are intertwined in everyday life but I don't think that is a secret as you can see banks fighting tooth and nail against any bank reforms before Congress today (stripping banks of dealing in derivatives).  Government and banks are not joined at the hip, it's just a mutual understanding until things begin going south. Any better ideas and I'd like to hear/read them.

I said NG swings a lot and if you mis-time it......

All miners getting whacked today with a few exceptions. I have a few oddballs like MYNG.ob and Sabina G&S but I expect them to succumb to this sell off too. Only my SRS rises on these sell offs. Have some low ball bids in on a few options but they haven't hit yet but are getting close.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 20, 2010, 06:00:42 AM
Wonder what Lance did to win the other 6 TDF races?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 20, 2010, 06:27:31 AM
I'm familiar with the banking system, that's why, let's say, the US Treasury were to issue a new interest free currency and Congress proclaims the IRS will only accept the new currency for payments, that would take the Federal Reserve out of the picture. I understand the banks are intertwined in everyday life but I don't think that is a secret as you can see banks fighting tooth and nail against any bank reforms before Congress today (stripping banks of dealing in derivatives).  Government and banks are not joined at the hip, it's just a mutual understanding until things begin going south. Any better ideas and I'd like to hear/read them.

I said NG swings a lot and if you mis-time it......

All miners getting whacked today with a few exceptions. I have a few oddballs like MYNG.ob and Sabina G&S but I expect them to succumb to this sell off too. Only my SRS rises on these sell offs. Have some low ball bids in on a few options but they haven't hit yet but are getting close.

The gold option writers NEED gold below 1200 on tuesday
NG is only 5% of my shares but being trained by the american masters of management by results MBR I do not like to lose
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 20, 2010, 06:29:20 AM
Wonder what Lance did to win the other 6 TDF races?

I am a fan of Lance
and I believe all of those cyclists take something
the matter is never to get caught
Landis writing a book and going on TV is despicable
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: scottishmoney on May 20, 2010, 06:59:47 AM
Most Olympic athletes are now taking some performance enhancing drugs of some sort or another.  They do not get caught because the drugs are usually newly developed and not screened yet.  Landis admits to spending $90K a year just for drugs.  Of course they all shoot up testosterone etc, but Landis was even taking some hormones of some sort or another.  Guess he wanted to grow booblets.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 20, 2010, 07:17:22 AM
I don't like losing positions either but I'm not giving up any shares at this time. With the little bit of money I have left for trading, I'm buying if they are selling.

Landis believed in 'better cycling through drugs' with that you would think he'd have won more races but always felt guilt about racing on drugs to actually win. Needs the money hence the book.

US$ chart dropping today which is interesting with the dash for cash going on. This might just be paper trading where cash is not available to settle positions. More like a computer versus computer thing since trading is 90% computer generated anyway.Yeah, that makes no cents but neither does the markets.

I expect gold wants to be back at least into the lower channel it just fell out of, June sounds good.


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on May 20, 2010, 07:17:50 AM
Those boobs will kill his aerodynamics! ;D When we look at the world picture it is quite evident the masses let government and banking grow out of control until almost everything was untraceable. For the most part, in my mind, we have not yet begun to touch the real corruption at all levels.
When you mention diversions I can't help but think of the movie "Wag The Dog" which literally disappeared very quickly over here. It is hard to imagine having a very well paying job creating diversions for government but they are there! Great movie and a great eye opener! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 20, 2010, 07:56:36 AM
'Wag the Dog' is almost to silly to be taken seriously by the masses. The manipulators rely on that type of mentality to maintain control.

The flight attendant I know wanted me to pick her 401k investments so I had her in US paper fund for a couple of years. Now, a self directed account is available so I got her to sign up for trading and took her current fund to cash and just today bought a bunch of miners (needless to say, all the bids hit) and put the bulk in USAGX a mutual gold miners fund and left 5% cash. I might take it back to all cash in June but for the summer I can't believe miners would be worth much less than they already are but anything is possible.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 20, 2010, 08:54:26 AM
I think gold will be contained below 1200 till tuesdays gold option expiriation
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on May 20, 2010, 10:21:53 AM
Yes Wag the Dog is ALMOST too silly to believe but.....the masses have grown complacent which we all must agree? It is common knowledge most folks can remain upset for a few days but after that it is business and surviving as usual? This plays well for those in power in any organization, government or religion. I think we all would be shocked if we really knew what was going on! ;)

In my mind the perfect situation would be to finance BOTH sides of every issue. This way you can't lose so you remain top dog, so to speak?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 20, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
........ that would take the Federal Reserve out of the picture.
Strange as it may seem, the few Presidents that have even come close to saying anything like this, ended up being assassinated.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: scottishmoney on May 20, 2010, 01:25:48 PM
........ that would take the Federal Reserve out of the picture.
Strange as it may seem, the few Presidents that have even come close to saying anything like this, ended up being assassinated.

Not Kennedy, he was too busy with his love life to be concerned about trivial Federal Reserve things.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 20, 2010, 03:28:44 PM
........ that would take the Federal Reserve out of the picture.
Strange as it may seem, the few Presidents that have even come close to saying anything like this, ended up being assassinated.

Not Kennedy, he was too busy with his love life to be concerned about trivial Federal Reserve things.
You think not? Maybe this will change your mind;
On June 4, 1963, John F. Kennedy decree, Executive Order 11110, and it was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business.

When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy signed this Order, it returned to the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -money - without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 20, 2010, 05:10:00 PM
Yes Wag the Dog is ALMOST too silly to believe but.....the masses have grown complacent which we all must agree? It is common knowledge most folks can remain upset for a few days but after that it is business and surviving as usual? This plays well for those in power in any organization, government or religion. I think we all would be shocked if we really knew what was going on! ;)

In my mind the perfect situation would be to finance BOTH sides of every issue. This way you can't lose so you remain top dog, so to speak?

I guess 'passive' is a better word.

Playing both sides with political contributions has us at a one party system at this point in time, run by a sock-puppet.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 20, 2010, 09:32:55 PM
June 14 we go vote for a new government
Won't change anything since there was a coalition of three parties and now it may be four

We have a central watchdog called the " Chamber of Calculations" they calculated that if the new government wants to stabilise debt they should not make any promisses except the necessity for four years to reduce the pro capita cost by 1000 euro .
This means more taxes and less wages ( normal recipee)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 21, 2010, 04:48:23 AM
true or not true
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 21, 2010, 05:52:42 AM
true or not true

Our news reported BO saved the american people yet again today
with his second national victory ( medical care being the other)
never again will they have to pay for a bankbailout
What about the FDIC 20 billion in the hole ?

A poll showed today that 51% of the flemish refused to live with a walloon prime minister
So that makes for 49% ignorants or traitors unless they are on wellfare and don't care
where the flemish money is going as long as they get their fix of money
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 21, 2010, 08:59:28 AM
From another board.....
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Still no reform for Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. Congress and America is stupid for allowing this charade to continue.

The regulation issue is of special interest to me, because I served as Lane County, Oregon’s first and only Investment Officer from 1976-1982. In 1979 and 1980 Marian County and the State of Oregon had their cash investment portfolios devastated by investments in GNMA Standby Agreements (similar to derivatives) and U.S. Treasury Forward Agreements. Treasuries and GNMA’s were on the ORS approved list of securities, but these people violated the “prudent person” rule and other basic directions by betting they could turn a long term commitment for a profit in time to meet the short term cash needs of taxing districts.

The Treasurer for Marion County reported a $12 million loss in the year I believe I made $10 million for Lane County. Or rather my investments recovered $10 million in lost purchasing power between the time we received the money, and the taxing districts and the county called for its use. Scary, isn’t it?

In the aftermath the Attorney General David Frohnmayer wrote a legal opinion from the existing statutes, which explained direct accountability, and extended culpability to the host of elected and appointed officials who had oversight of the two treasurer’s work. The legislature would have none of that, and passed a bunch of rules getting the others off the hook. Now we have laws at a national level adopting this same tragic approach.

Before graciously accepting Congress’ and the Administration’s plan to prevent a repeat of the financial crisis, people should consider parallels to the Great Depression. The late 20’s brought an obvious speculative rampage in stock prices. However, the SEC failed to exercise existing regulatory authority to sharply increase cash people put up to borrow money for stock. Next came the Smoot-Hawley tariff, and predictable international retaliatory actions. The bill disastrously exacerbated the damage done by the Fordney- McCumber tariff of 1922. (Remember the United States had the only sizeable economy not devastated by WW I, which could restart international trade.) As recession tumbled into depression, the Federal Reserve decreased the money supply by one third.

FDR’s New Deal policies obscured these true causes, installed unprecedented Federal power, and prolonged the economic malaise. Finally a new world war rescued the country from a slide into renewed economic hopelessness.

This time a new world war could easily result in a nuclear winter and not economic prosperity. However, the Administration and Congress remained undeterred from steps to hide their primary responsibility for the financial crisis. Current hearings and speeches distracted from questions about how a government lead mortgage debacle allowed explosive growth of a market, so entangled amongst participants, as to imperil the financial system. They began by selling illusions about predatory lenders and Wall Street greed, as if greed and predation were not part of the common human condition. Next came “show trials” for Goldman Sachs and others, with final consummation in 1,400 pages of government oppression disguised as financial services reform.

The premier predatory lenders in this story were Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, and Christopher Dodd. They used threats to banks of Justice Department action concerning the Community Reinvestment Act to provide themselves and colleagues with trillions of dollars of “walking around” money for electioneering. The relentlessly severe actions of Congress, and the Clinton and Obama Administrations stilled voices within and without government counseling traditional prudence. On YouTube you can see the 2004 video of Barney Frank and Maxine Waters abusing the regulator informing them of the speculative character of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Government actions spawned a host of private sector predators among mortgage brokers, real estate salesmen, security dealers, and appraisers, who immediately profited from the decisions of borrowers and lenders bearing the ultimate risk of the transactions. Ordinary Americans were duped into borrowing for homes, when there was no possibility of making payments leading to eventual ownership. Private lenders became increasingly anxious and used Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as a dumping ground for sub-prime, high risk real estate loans politicians coerced them into making. When mortgage portfolios continued to increase in risk, politicians turned a blind eye to explosive growth in the derivatives market, which was used in attempts to mitigate perilous lending positions.

Derivatives are not that exotic. Regulatory oversight routinely controls hosts of investments best understood as potentially lucrative wagers in commodity, stock, bond, and insurance markets, where one receives a tiny current income compared to huge potential future loses. The derivatives market produces a pseudo-financial instrument once removed from the grouping of mortgages used to create a bond. Derivatives attempt to transfer to others for a price the risk associated with these mortgage pools. Elegant and esoteric descriptions cloud an economic reality similar to accepting $5,000 for co-signing fifteen auto loans, and being at risk for $210,000 if they later go bad.

Effective regulations and effective oversight would have focused on economic risk attributes, and not on marketing schemes and legal jargon hiding the character of investments. Proper government intervention would have meant Federal Reserve, Treasury, and Justice applying brutal persuasion to private firms, including those so pretentious as to claim they were “too big to fail.” (Can we say Freddie and Fannie?) Persuasion, approaching condemnation by the Geneva Conventions as torture, would have ensured suspending any cascade of financial losses, further enabled mergers and bankruptcies, dismissed flagging management, and produced market clearing asset prices. As the dust settled, there would be no bailouts, and ownership would remain wholly private. Bankruptcy proceedings would have been modified such that board authorized compensation for the current and several prior years, including performance bonuses and “golden parachutes”, would have been recovered for bankruptcy assets.

There is little hope now in controlling financial markets when regulations do not drill down through these political, legal and marketing facades. Regulation reform as passed remains nothing more than an exercise where the current political/private cohort in power protects themselves, destroys competitors, and establishes parameters to game the system in the future.

4 posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 1:38:44 PM by Retain Mike
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 21, 2010, 02:18:49 PM
On June 4, 1963, Executive Order 11110, was signed by President Kennedy declaring the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank was out of business. The Law has  been exhaustively researched through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. It can now be safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order or  act of Congress. In simple terms, it is still valid.

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on May 30, 2010, 08:46:19 AM
Hope this thread does not die.
Have not heard from August since his wife's dog died.
Expecting a very sharp drop in most things this week.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on May 30, 2010, 03:17:30 PM
Will oil stocks drop other than B P?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on May 30, 2010, 06:48:08 PM
I think everyone is just waiting for the next shoe to drop.

In a deflationary environment prices go down. It takes time for all the excess credit/money being created to filter to the consumer and when it does prices will begin climbing along with taxes. Also for this banking system to function it needs constant consumer demand for new loans. If consumers hunker down (save and/or payoff debt) banking comes to a stand still since no new money is being requested for consumers, no new compounding interest and fees can be charged to add to the banks bottom line to cover existing bad bets coming due. Real estate is an good example as people can't afford loans for housing let alone trading up to a newer home like when the economy is in gear.  RE continues going backwards with values still falling putting the hurt on existing mortgage holders and their banks of course unless they lie about values but that will catch up to them eventually when net worth is less than the original loan amount and is finally realized.

It will be interesting to see if 'sell in May and go away' applies this time around. Spot gold could continue on up with the miners lagging until August but these are interesting times and anything could happen according to Murphy's Law. Certainly applies to the Gulf of Mexico.

As long as the US$ is up, keep a larger amount of cash on hand until is finally pukes. Buy physical gold if you can afford it. Have to rely on charts in the short term for miners and spot gold.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on May 31, 2010, 02:03:32 AM
I think everyone is just waiting for the next shoe to drop.
As long as the US$ is up,............
This in my oppinion is the 'linch pin' and when it reverses, Katie bar the door!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 05, 2010, 01:34:32 AM
Hope this thread does not die.
Have not heard from August since his wife's dog died.
Expecting a very sharp drop in most things this week.

Tx ; am not sure
Wife and I morn
High is in 30% chance or 16 june or later 70% chance
Anyone thinking me awol can email me
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 06, 2010, 12:01:55 AM
Goldman bet 35 million against Cali

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2aa89fe6-702d-11df-8698-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 06, 2010, 12:03:17 AM
Phd Kern calls 96 days LONG TERM
Bwahaha

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/kern/kern053110.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 06, 2010, 12:44:54 AM
My latest from Canada 99999 that is 5 nines
They are learning about marketing
But I got it 2% below the price of a Krugerrand in Germany

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3156&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 06, 2010, 12:59:57 AM
The other side

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3159&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on June 06, 2010, 06:05:11 AM
My latest from Canada 99999 that is 5 nines
They are learning about marketing
But I got it 2% below the price of a Krugerrand in Germany

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3156&g2_serialNumber=1)

You........ Do you know what they sell for. Statement not a question as it is usually about 2X melt.
I get crap quality for fair market. 
Do love your pictures.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 06, 2010, 08:24:05 AM
Actually Krugerrands have been selling 10 to 8 % ask over melt by Belgian exchange agents and 6 to 4% bid for the last few weeks
I got that canadian coin from a german forum
Ebay Germany has them for 10% more
Maybe you should import from Germany  ;)


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 06, 2010, 09:16:12 AM
99% of my pictures are now made by a Canoscan8800F scanner using the Silverfast program and contrast and color is touched up when needed in photoshop CS3 full version
Photoshop also makes the "forum" versions of the 400 to 600 dpi scans
On smaller coins I go to 1200 dpi .

I got a Canon 30 D thru the lense camera but I am too lazy to set up the lighting arangements most of the time ( 3 full spectrum light lamps)

I just got a batch of Marianne Roosters most in MS from Paris for melt plus 2% . I think I am now bien servi . I was asking for the restrikes and the guy did not have enough restrikes so he filled out the order with originals  ;D These are the 20 Francs type which are pricewise ok . Latin Union standard of 5.8 grams gold per coin. I never had a 10 Francs
but I may be tempted to look into a batch of those. Still got a sheet of 5 gram feather bars from 30 years ago  ???

Only looking for two elusive "coins" now
One is the Oriana bar from Australia the other is the "petite danseuse" from Monnaie de Paris which used to be on ebay Germany week after week ; but I was to busy with other
coins at the time.

I also found a true MS for the MS with slide of Marie Jeanne which I have for years.
Sadly only junk and overexpensive coins are now on ebay most of the time
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 06, 2010, 04:45:09 PM
I bought a Prodigy HD2 Advanced sound card as I'm always trying to improve output from my speakers. The headphones fanatics like this card because it has 3 Op-Amp sockets where you can remove and replace them with a myriad other Op-Amps to select from to customize and improve your listening experience. Works on the output for my 2.1 speakers of course too. Stock card and Op-Amps sound pretty damn good but ordered others that were suggested. Found them cheapest in Hong Kong via Ebay, gotta wait three weeks shipping time though.

PYW, you might want to send me some of those recent buys so I can have a closer look at them.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 06, 2010, 11:30:17 PM
Whadda
My wife sent the coins to the jeweler for polishing so they are ready for wearing when
gold gets worthless  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 07, 2010, 01:48:14 AM
It would appear that Greece made it look so easy, that now Hungary is going to give it a try.  Who's next?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 07, 2010, 03:08:42 AM
It would appear that Greece made it look so easy, that now Hungary is going to give it a try.  Who's next?

Hungary is not Euro country .It is the problem of the people that bread Hitler . I mean
Austrian banks who lent too much to Hungary  :)
They allready were bailed out a first time : but the new government found the old government lied about the state finances is being said  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 07, 2010, 03:10:13 AM
Gold shooting up 20$ in 10 minutes

Excerpt from Meatloaf " Love by the dashboard light "

Stop right now !
I want to know that you love me
That you will love me forever and go to 1350 this week
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 07, 2010, 05:02:35 AM
It would appear that Greece made it look so easy, that now Hungary is going to give it a try.  Who's next?

OD, you might read The Two Phases of the Great Depression (http://www.scribd.com/doc/32234380/The-Two-Phases-of-the-Great-Depression-5-27-2010). The site is a bit flaky so give it time to load.

PYW, Armstrong cycles target dates and readily admits they are more like turn dates (Bradley?) Almost guarantees something will happen just doesn't know what.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 07, 2010, 09:10:53 AM
Estonia to be the 17 th Euro country

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=acmFXV1AT8LI&pos=5
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 07, 2010, 09:16:39 AM
It would appear that Greece made it look so easy, that now Hungary is going to give it a try.  Who's next?

OD, you might read The Two Phases of the Great Depression (http://www.scribd.com/doc/32234380/The-Two-Phases-of-the-Great-Depression-5-27-2010). The site is a bit flaky so give it time to load.

PYW, Armstrong cycles target dates and readily admits they are more like turn dates (Bradley?) Almost guarantees something will happen just doesn't know what.


I feel a breakout and gap up coming by 16 th of june or a little later
I like this volatility
10 000 dollars up or down on the day are having a beneficial numbing effect
It are only worthless paper pieces  :D and crashable computer numbers  :D
Throw a nuke and the EMP will araise all those zeros on all computers .

We have elections next sunday and the walloon made a major mistake
with their 45% in population they are uniting and ganging up on the 55% flemish
whose main party now wants to get rid of Brussels and Belgium ( Wish this would happen)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 07, 2010, 10:09:56 PM
Gold is breaking above 1250 right now

Dharma is parotting me again saying the last cycle was short this one is going to be long
I am still sticking with 16 th june as highest probability and I now tend to think the next cycle is going to
be long .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 08, 2010, 06:57:08 AM
I'm pretty much all in here. I wouldn't mind taking profits soon to get back to 20% cash. After that a correction or continued run up wouldn't bother me as I look forward to Aug/Sept. Norcini drew in the channels as a guide and he has $1200 for support if it comes to that, it's a extremely bullish outlook for him.

Waiting patiently as world growth is slowing with debt hampering any meaningful recoveries. PMs climbing steadily in the overall picture.

Very quite in California as they work on a new budget. They still insist on spending more than they take in.

I wonder if BV is having any luck charting the regular markets now. I think the manipulations in the mining sector were just screwing with his mind.

If Euroland takes the position the same as the US and projects debt onus forward on generations so far into the future that no one will bother having sex anymore, then this will be the world's longest recovery in recorded time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 08, 2010, 08:57:27 AM
I think Norcini explained all today
The institutions are playing the game sell the miners (shorting) and buy the physical gold

Also I think he is right that those paper ETF's have conveniently taking away a lot of money that would otherwise have gone into miners

Bottom line ; I think miners are only going to shoot up when they start paying 5% plus dividends with the promise of more to come
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 08, 2010, 09:41:02 PM
Finland is double dipping back into recession

BP is buying the rights to all searchterms on the US oil leak disaster
now their latest problem is that the surface ship is much too small
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 09, 2010, 01:58:34 AM
Finland is double dipping back into recession

BP is buying the rights to all searchterms on the US oil leak disaster
now their latest problem is that the surface ship is much too small
Could it be that their leak is a lot bigger than they have admited? After all,  they say that the fine imposed will be based on the total amount of oil released........so a little leak isn't as costly as one that they can't even estimate the amount of oil being lost.....
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 09, 2010, 02:07:13 AM
Finland is double dipping back into recession

BP is buying the rights to all searchterms on the US oil leak disaster
now their latest problem is that the surface ship is much too small
Could it be that their leak is a lot bigger than they have admited? After all,  they say that the fine imposed will be based on the total amount of oil released........so a little leak isn't as costly as one that they can't even estimate the amount of oil being lost.....

Of course their figures were as optimistic as jobless data and inflation data
On the other hand I think there is still a transatlantic agreement to limit claims
to 96 million dollars . So in the most likely scenario the US will never see the cost
of the clean up paid back and BP will be taken over by a rival .
Now with the ship full and a presumed half recuperated if you quadrupple this
( guessing only 25% was recuperated ) you get the amount of the leak
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 09, 2010, 08:14:18 AM
Flow Rate Technical Group member: Severed riser increased flow “far more” than 20%; now likely 100,000 barrels a day (http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/flow-rate-technical-group-member-severed-riser-increased-flow-far-more-than-20-now-likely-100000-barrels-a-day)
If BP knows the actually flow, they are not saying. And don't confuse barrels with gallons.

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This seven-year week may be further divided into two periods of 3.5 years each, from the two 3.5-year periods in Daniel's prophecy where the last seven years are divided into two 3.5-year periods, (Daniel 9:27) The time period for these beliefs is also based on other passages: in the book of Daniel, "time, times, and half a time," interpreted as "a year, two years, and half a year," and the book of Revelation, "a thousand two hundred and threescore days" and "forty and two months" (the prophetic month averaging 30 days, hence 1260/30 = 42 months or 3.5 years). The 1290 days of Daniel 12:11, (rather than the 1260 days of Revelation 11:3), is thought to be the result of either a simple intercalary  leap month adjustment, or due to further calculations  related to the prophecy.

The Trumpets
6Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.

7The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.

8The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood,

 9A third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

Rapture supposedly occurs somewhere during the trumpet events then.....

The Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath
1Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out the seven bowls of God’s wrath on the earth.” 2The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly and painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.

3The second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it turned into blood like that of a dead man, and every living thing in the sea died.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 09, 2010, 09:24:44 AM
For chrisake all you need to know is the pressure in the bubble : the viscosity of the oil and
the diameter and quality of the pipe ( presuming you can calculate the counterpressure of the seawater ) and an engineering table should give you the free flow without hurting your brains
25000 times four is 100 000 barrels ( good guestimate )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on June 10, 2010, 01:05:51 AM
GM has been banned on the stools digger. ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 10, 2010, 01:20:58 AM
Some stock holders are now suggesting that like the financial institutions that were too big to let fail, it is now BP's turn to be bailed out by the federal government.  Yep, let good old uncle sam and John Q Public pay for all this gushing oil!  He told them that they could drill there and could have done inspections if they had wanted to check on unsafe conditions.  It's all his fault!!!

The question has been ask, 'isn't BP  as big and important as the Auto manufacturers who got bail out money? Where do you draw the line when the CO doesn't get his bonus at the end of his term or Christmas, which ever one comes first.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 10, 2010, 06:40:14 AM
Pensioners in England are already rolling over in their graves and they're aren't even dead yet.

Oil companies had already lobbied for and Congress passed a $750,000,000 cap for damages for an event(s) such as this.

If BP folds, it's just to get out from underneath the tragedy to reemerge as another entity.

Will anyone ever go to jail for murder (11 deaths), for gross negligence, Doubt it. Will the EPA ban plastic bags while the Gulf fills with oil? Probably.

It's more like, to big to follow the rules.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 10, 2010, 09:54:47 AM
GM has been banned on the stools digger. ;D

I suspected for a time he was surfer doo doo and before that the general aka jackiss and the coin guy

He was allways talking about fundamentals and had it completely wrong on the relation between
intrest rates and money value. When I quoted the intrest parity principle he gave a 30 line convoluted answer as the good politician he was. I got an MBA and I am sure he is just a dumb ass parrot .
dharma  is still quoting everything he reads as his stuff  ;D
I still got 16 june for a high and am curious . I am missing 17 days that have to be made up this cycle or next cycle .

In the meantime it is clear doc asked his loyal troops chicago bear and K to post on the goldforum to fill pages  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 10, 2010, 06:18:59 PM
I still got 16 june for a high and am curious . I am missing 17 days that have to be made up this cycle or next cycle .
Those 17 days will be spent with trading houses going against each other and not playing the unwritten game of 'you short spot and we'll short miners.' It'll be every trading house for itself and we'll see what happens at the end of 17 days with the resulting formation.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 10, 2010, 06:39:11 PM
I'm thinking $1222 area is important. Hanging around there at the end of month and it's the usual summer doldrums until the end of August. Back into Norcini's channels and it's a rocket launch.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 10, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
I do not like the action
We seem to be setting up for a 10% move
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 11, 2010, 01:27:32 AM
Double dip coming to the USA ?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/63d63220-7554-11df-a7e2-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 12, 2010, 12:32:35 AM
25 th  of June in Vienna one of the largest worldcoins 100 kg gold is being auctioned

Ugly with slide allready

http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/gold/5751-groesste-goldmuenze-der-welt

(http://kurier.at/mmedia/2010.06.11/1276254796_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 12, 2010, 01:52:37 AM
Nice door stop! ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 12, 2010, 01:59:17 AM
Nice door stop! ::)

You do not need a 200 pounds doorstop
and it ain't nice  ;D
If somebody gave it to me I would auction it off the next day  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 12, 2010, 11:41:38 PM
I spend half an hour gazing at the gold charts in Monthly Weekly and Dayly time frames
Whether the high is in or not I do not know so I still go with 16 th june or later

Last week I sold my South Africans partly . Overbought in all timeframes were Anglogold and Harmony ( I sold some Drooy to get rid of that junk )
So I am now at 5 % cash and waiting anxiously what next week will bring
Because of overbought conditions in all time frames
I will half my  Oceana gold and New gold holdings if possible
which will leave me with free shares on the remaining shares

I read somewhere that a new offering needs high prices next week and that is
fine with me. :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 13, 2010, 09:12:28 AM
After 180 years uninterupted money transfers from Flemish to Walloons hope has come a step closer in this elections were a surprising 40% of the Flemish voted Flemish
We used to be called ultra right extremists now we are called nationalists and separatists  ::)
At least they sung the Flemish Antem on Belgian Television  :D

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The prospect of division is greeted with anxiety in Wallonia, which is much poorer than Flanders and depends on financial transfers to pay for generous welfare provisions.

In fact Wallonia voted Socialist to get more money from Flanders and Flanders voted for Flanders  :)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0bf8f528-76f4-11df-ba79-00144feabdc0.html

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 13, 2010, 06:56:46 PM
I'm watching my portfolio has a whole and it is in striking distance of an inter-term high where it always gets beat up on when I'm making to much money. I watch and wait.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 13, 2010, 08:55:13 PM
I'm watching my portfolio has a whole and it is in striking distance of an inter-term high where it always gets beat up on when I'm making to much money. I watch and wait.

I make a whole portfolio status every saturday and make a graph by hand with a 4 week moving average by hand and a fictive chart calculated as if everything I have would have been physical gold . I do this by hand to make me think about the distance between the points etc.
I am at an all time high and yes I always get corrected severely when I am that high . The shadow portfolio of pure gold in euro is since 10 years outperforming my real portfolio ; whatever I try .
Problem is that only 2 of the 11 miners I got are overbought and so raising cash is ;as allways; a tough decision what to sell .
This week may be the cycle high for gold and miners
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 13, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
There were like more then 15 political parties to choose from.
The next government wants to change the constitution for which they need 2/3 rd majority
This means a government with 6 parties ( 3 flemish and 3 walloon )
I think this means a lot of trouble again
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 14, 2010, 03:53:37 AM
Sold a third of Oceana gold 3.16 cad to raise cash
Oceana is overbought in all timeframes
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 14, 2010, 06:35:02 AM
Sold a third of Oceana gold 3.16 cad to raise cash
Oceana is overbought in all timeframes
Your miner is off the radar for the most part even though somebody has been interested in buying it. Fundamentally it should reach a plateau here soon (like CKG.V has) as they lack money to operate existing mines (mothballed). They cleared their hedge book but if they don't continue the output pace investors will look elsewhere.  Another 1/3 sell would make for a nice nest egg while you wait for the moving average to get tested again.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 14, 2010, 06:57:28 AM
Sold a third of Oceana gold 3.16 cad to raise cash
Oceana is overbought in all timeframes
Your miner is off the radar for the most part even though somebody has been interested in buying it. Fundamentally it should reach a plateau here soon (like CKG.V has) as they lack money to operate existing mines (mothballed). They cleared their hedge book but if they don't continue the output pace investors will look elsewhere.  Another 1/3 sell would make for a nice nest egg while you wait for the moving average to get tested again.

Sound advice but
The momo in this miner is/was incredible
This is my third sell in three weeks and I made 96% in a few months time
The remaining shares are now at 39 cent bookvalue
The value kept going up so fast that after three sells I still got a full position dollarwise
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 14, 2010, 07:01:10 AM
Looking at the gold action today I have to take into account the high for the cycle may allready be in or the high will be later then 16 th of june
The damage today I think precludes a high this week ( and I still got 17 days missing which can go in this or next cycle )

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 14, 2010, 07:28:10 AM
Miners not acting in concert. No altogether lows or highs just this continued 5 years of consolidation, so it seems. I don't know what this $1222 area is all about but it is acting like a magnet. I think a push to the $1250 area is in order before the end of the month then have to check the formation at that time for telltale signs of the next move.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 14, 2010, 08:02:32 AM
The formations are getting shorter and shorter in time
This is going to resolve in one of two ways

Fall down and test some kind of resistance 1000?

Shoot up and retest breakout .

I still favour the last one
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 14, 2010, 09:05:23 PM
Hold it one week for quad witching

Quote
This is one of the big four 'quad witch' weeks for US equities, and Goldman is bring out some IPO's including the CBOE. So as previously said, we'll look for shenanigans on light volumes as the trolley dodgers try to stay out of the way of intermittent headline risks and keep that perfect trading score going.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 15, 2010, 04:28:54 AM
Contingency plans of the big oil companies all come from the same computer
with the same supperficial adequacy
Well they did not lie I think ; all wallrusses in waterworld if there were any should still
be allright

Quote
An exasperated Edward Markey, who chairs the subcommittee on energy and environment, added that like BP, three of the companies had described in their plans their ability to protect walruses in the Gulf – a marine mammal that has not inhabited the region for “3 million years”.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/307a8cf8-7885-11df-942a-00144feabdc0.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 16, 2010, 09:08:56 PM
Latest update on gold
The high was in on 8.6.10 or more likely to come
I am trying out a secondary very fast stochRSI indicator for very short term action
I am looking forward to a rocket shot thru 1250$ upwards and then a retest in the
next cycle
Did you notice dharma suddenly went to Gann without any timing whatsoever ?

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3931/17juni2010.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 16, 2010, 09:11:53 PM
A stress test of all euro banks was carried out
Spain toke unilaterally the decision to provide the test of the spanish banks
This forced the hand of the ECB to promise to provide the test of all banks France and Germany included

This is going to be a bloodbath for the "bad" banks
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 16, 2010, 09:13:07 PM
The US the weakest country on earth ?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/TBlIjsxtlLI/AAAAAAAANN4/MhRtY9jLdX0/s1600/sovereignratings.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 17, 2010, 02:12:10 AM
Latest update on gold
The high was in on 8.6.10 or more likely to come

8/6/10 to 8/15/10 looks good to me, and several others.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 17, 2010, 02:19:20 AM
Latest update on gold
The high was in on 8.6.10 or more likely to come

8/6/10 to 8/15/10 looks good to me, and several others.

Sorry
I am using the european convention which means 8.6 is 8th of  june and the high is passed or very near for the next 107 days
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 17, 2010, 02:21:25 AM
@ whadda
Toke your advise
Sold 1500 Oceana gold at 3.33 cad
I got now 4000 left at zero price and 8.5% cash
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 17, 2010, 08:02:38 AM
Sold some Kinross for good measure at 19 cad
My 107 days are up so I am slipsliding out of some positions
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 17, 2010, 11:26:24 AM
Just been watching and waiting. Bought a new fridge for clunkers mail-in rebate of $250 towards purchase.

Gulf gets worse everyday, two months before a relief well can even make an attempt. I shudder to think if the well lining is damaged and pumping mud just flows to fissures and away.

The worldwide banking system as a whole is a bad bank with no answers and more despair. The massive amounts of bailout funds injected everywhere does no good if the consumer doesn't want/need/can't afford it. Banks stuck with a bunch of linen no one wants except the ones who trade against them.

When you start listening to me, we are both in trouble. Cash is good, only for the short term. We have been here before where just when you think a run inevitable, a slam down occurs. Opex will be scary tomorrow-Friday.

Waiting for a reaction to the $1250 area. Need more of a formation than just a candle up. We shall soon see if Norcin's channel bottom becomes resistance or support.

I'm ready to unload the laggers and re-balance into better performing miners plus take some profits for pocket change.

Spot chart show massive consolidation with a good risk/reward to the upside. Usually, spot gets pounded (esp. this time of year) but manipulators getting canceled out with strong buying lately. One day take downs don't mean much anymore. NG NGD RGLD not in a runaway-breakaway mode yet, that's a good thing.

[The bid D is a lost cause. Need BV back to chart some crowd mentality to confirm overall sentiment.]
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 17, 2010, 09:52:47 PM
I got three types of mines
1 those with overbougth slow stochs in month , week, dayly timeframes (selling them)
2 those with weekly going down ( keeping them )
3 those with all timeframes going up (keeping them)

I got 11% cash now
Made ultrashort daily slow stock chart and it seems I still favor a breakout over 1250 and
a retest in the next cycle of 107 days
By monday I will have recuperated 5 of the 17 lost days allready  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 17, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
wake up whadda

Gold is trying to break 1250 for the fourth time  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 18, 2010, 12:27:43 AM
The goldmove lasted 5 minutes and look what those reporters make of it  :(

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCikJUwsKPJ4&pos=3
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 18, 2010, 02:33:02 AM
Gold was still looking good yeasterday! What will the end of the week bring?????????? :-\
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 18, 2010, 04:19:44 AM
Patience pays off, shorts in a panic.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 18, 2010, 06:14:30 AM
Gold will go higher no doubt but for 10 years now my three cycles into a year have existed
We have like 15 calendar days left statistically in this cycle and the summer months before us . So I hope we get a 1350 $ and a retest but I am not all that sure
( the 15 days are what the previous cycle was short and it has to add somewhere now or later this year)

I hope the HUI finally starts to get going .
There is a good chance next week is celebration week for gold and miners .
I am not selling any physical though only paper.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 18, 2010, 06:25:13 AM
My wealth lab program says HUI 520 by next week Friday
( but then again these targets have been wrong often since they are short term and statistical)
They only provide me a guideline in timing ( it is now running on 111 days which end monday but a shortterm 15 days which have 6 days left in the upphase)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 18, 2010, 07:00:53 AM
Sold some new gold
Now 14% cash
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 18, 2010, 07:48:23 AM
NG and NGD both gaped so a return to those gaps are likely. It's not uncommon for NG to run around 30% during a move like this before it pulls back. I'll settle for a 20%. Sold 1 stock today WDOFF.PK for a couple bucks profit that wasn't responding to the move.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on June 18, 2010, 08:27:16 AM
Just a quick RECORD HIGH Today! Need I say more as the end, in my humble opinion, is NOT near! Climb baby climb! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 18, 2010, 09:09:13 AM
NG and NGD both gaped so a return to those gaps are likely. It's not uncommon for NG to run around 30% during a move like this before it pulls back. I'll settle for a 20%. Sold 1 stock today WDOFF.PK for a couple bucks profit that wasn't responding to the move.

I know pretty much what I want to sell next week
Only GBG great basin gold I do not know : it is a sleeper but looks like having good
chart potential.

I can see 5 more days of record highs  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 18, 2010, 11:45:52 PM
Made my weekly statistics and I really don't like the way volatility is gone from my portfolio total for
four weeks now

I fear a big move coming and I fear it is temporarily down  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 19, 2010, 01:58:39 AM
Finally found an unblemished Marie Jeanne after 7 years

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3166&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on June 19, 2010, 02:23:09 AM
My kind of woman!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 20, 2010, 12:22:16 AM
Sundays give a new weekly gold chart
One to two weeks more upside are possible ( but not guaranteed)
I still favour a brakeout with retest but am now ca 13.5% in cash

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 20, 2010, 02:22:36 AM
Bill (longnine007) sends his reguards and hopes all you'r charts are up to date and bringing you the prices you want.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 20, 2010, 03:36:18 AM
Bill (longnine007) sends his reguards and hopes all you'r charts are up to date and bringing you the prices you want.

I miss his well informed and acid or songtext comments very much.
The next 14 days are going to be a make it or break it for the next 107 days
so my charts are now made daily but the break is so close it is getting down
to watching one minute charts versus hourly charts and look for patterns or divergencies

Tell him to get his lazy ass into gear and get a 300$ computer and to post again. >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 20, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
On your chart the angles look tame, short and shorter term. Easier for manipulators to attack but just as easy to continue on up. (short term). Sure looks like a trip to $1300 plus is imminent before falling back. I'll sell more laggers first before I start taking any real profits.

Haven't read up on GBG lately, I'll get around to it of course all I look for is if their reserves are growing and how or when production is going. If a miner is producing they better have the same or higher future production rates mapped out already. The bet is on if they are lying or not besides any unknown circumstances.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 20, 2010, 09:23:35 PM
Gold had a new high this european morning before the london am fix and then
wash bashed down 8 dollars to 1257

Le Café is saying a very large open intrest was bought last friday
The enemy laying a trap at some price to pull the drain plug
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-bugs-giddy-but-some-get-cautious-2010-06-21?siteid=rss&rss=1

I made a new chart this morning , we seem to be getting very close to a shot up or
a move down to end this cycle ( we are now day 112 with 17-5=12 days still short
on the yearaverages)
We need at least 1300 for 1250-1170 range to stand a chance as support I think



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 21, 2010, 07:05:45 AM
Well, I forced to sell early and sell often today. Wasn't so bad. Dumped most all those underperformers took profits in all things black before spot shockn'awe hits the miners. This is more like it for the summer session. If a good reaction occurs in the sector then I'm buying back in (gifts), I can wait for the August movement, it's not that far away.

Short term channels worked fairly well even though the manipulators jumped all over it, now longer term channels back in play.

I sold all of Rainy River, it almost moved two bucks since I bought it a month ago. It's on my shopping list to get back in.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 22, 2010, 05:43:48 AM
All oscilators and indicators are lagging . Only the RSI can be coincident or forward looking
With all the shenenigans of expiration week I will  wait till friday to make up my mind
Last high in this cycle or a new cycle . Longterm of course of no intrest but for selling some shares and buying back the same or others ; possibly a 10-20% boast on the shares traded .

If I don't change my mind tomorrow is day 114  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 22, 2010, 08:33:42 AM
I have cash so I'm going, please crash the miners now. Put in low ball 30 day bids for my favorites to add to HL RRFFF.pk GSS NG and NGD
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 22, 2010, 11:46:30 AM
I have cash so I'm going, please crash the miners now. Put in low ball 30 day bids for my favorites to add to HL RRFFF.pk GSS NG and NGD

Untill further notice I am still on the selling side (mentally that is ).
And I keep counting on a new high in the old cycle count which is not out and buried
yet ( but can be so retroactively)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 22, 2010, 09:11:04 PM
I have cash so I'm going, please crash the miners now. Put in low ball 30 day bids for my favorites to add to HL RRFFF.pk GSS NG and NGD

Gold is crawling up
1256 looks like the line to break upwards
What do you call a low ball bid ? My definition is ema 65 minus 10 %
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 23, 2010, 03:42:21 AM
It now looks a real possibility the 107 days cycle died on monday age 112
I sold some more HMY and Drooy and surprisingly got better prices then last week
Go figure
Now got 17% cash.

I am only eyeing one new gall Lake Shore Gold
I will have to find out if it is a Brewery or a gold mine  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 23, 2010, 05:20:48 AM
I have cash so I'm going, please crash the miners now. Put in low ball 30 day bids for my favorites to add to HL RRFFF.pk GSS NG and NGD

Gold is crawling up
1256 looks like the line to break upwards
What do you call a low ball bid ? My definition is ema 65 minus 10 %

In this case 'low ball' is anywhere below recent gap prices, looking for a spike down intra-day during some panic. Can always change to market pricing at anytime or go fish somewhere else.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 23, 2010, 06:14:56 AM
It now looks a real possibility the 107 days cycle died on monday age 112
I sold some more HMY and Drooy and surprisingly got better prices then last week
Go figure
Now got 17% cash.

I am only eyeing one new gall Lake Shore Gold
I will have to find out if it is a Brewery or a gold mine  :D

I took my trading account to about 50% cash but in the overall scheme of things it is about 15% cash of my entire holdings.

Did you say that the new girl looked good after visiting the brewery???  Or that she would cost you a gold mine????  Or both???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 23, 2010, 06:44:17 AM
In the seventies anything with the word gold in ran like mad
So there were breweries and others with the word gold in that doubled in price
So it is kind of a joke because the charts look good but I do not even know it
is a goldmine or not  >:(

I have 17% of all my miners in cash and since my trading part was 20% virtually
all trading capital is now in cash
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 23, 2010, 06:26:28 PM
Lakeshore Link (http://www.lsgold.com/reports/LSG_factsheet_2010_spring.pdf)
Sorta for real, they have a processing plant and some big equipment......

The report reads more like an advertisement. They claim real production near this fall. They are shaft mining the big prize and exploring elsewhere trying to gear up for production. Maybe a million ounces in reserves. Claim at least 7 years worth of mining life so far. Need more funding (doesn't everyone?).

Maybe they hit the motherload at some point in time, GG gave up and sold them their land (reminds me of the Sinclair purchase), you just never know though what might happen.

Still, I rather like NG myself if you want to look a little further into the future for producers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 23, 2010, 09:23:59 PM
Lakeshore Link (http://www.lsgold.com/reports/LSG_factsheet_2010_spring.pdf)
Sorta for real, they have a processing plant and some big equipment......

The report reads more like an advertisement. They claim real production near this fall. They are shaft mining the big prize and exploring elsewhere trying to gear up for production. Maybe a million ounces in reserves. Claim at least 7 years worth of mining life so far. Need more funding (doesn't everyone?).

Maybe they hit the motherload at some point in time, GG gave up and sold them their land (reminds me of the Sinclair purchase), you just never know though what might happen.

Still, I rather like NG myself if you want to look a little further into the future for producers.

NG has bad chart technical picture so I will wait some
Talking Sinclair ; TNX broke out yesterday with a 7% rise thru horizontal resistance
I do not know what to think of that but have 5.53 cad as a take some profit figure since 3 months now
The beauty of chartanalysis is you take a loss or profit according your pre determined figures and don't have to question why on the shares but only why on your own chrystal ball reading
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 23, 2010, 09:34:37 PM
OK I understand why the charts have the pattern they have
with a production target of Q4 2010

Monthly slowstoch upcrossing above 20%
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 23, 2010, 09:37:26 PM
Weekly upward cross starting from 40%
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 23, 2010, 09:41:17 PM
Daily : complete indecision for 2.5 months

65 and 200 ema flat

No momo but this is a potential sleeping princess

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 24, 2010, 05:40:12 AM
Yeah, you are not to question mob mentality when charting. It is what is. Highs and lows.

Rainy River in Canada (RRFFF us) took a partner in Northern Superior Resources Inc. (NSUPF.PK) who bought some Lake Shore property as Lake Shore was raising cash.[See they are all interconnected in some way] Rainy River should be on your watch list maybe SUP for well managed companies with reserves and a good future.

I sold Rainy River except 50 shares (I want to be on their mailing list) and now waiting for a pull back. I'm in no hurry for the next couple of months.

Only the producers are holding up here like HL and the big boys as my pathetic PMPIX is holding its ground. Long shots take years to develop but producers are now.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 24, 2010, 06:11:22 AM
OK I understand why the charts have the pattern they have
with a production target of Q4 2010

Monthly slowstoch upcrossing above 20%

I am proud of you PYW, you actually projected fundamentals into a chart.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 24, 2010, 06:13:01 AM
Kinross and Yamana have been positive all day ( I once used to like them very much so I
am still stuck in too many shares )

It is encouraging that HUI is up whilst DOW is down

I figure that when the new cycle starts 20 to 30 days will see the relative bottom
So I figure buying end of july or first half of august . But lets first see we do not make
new highs next week and then figure out what kind of reaction we are going to get .
Full moon is coming  ;D

I do not pay capital gains taxes but they rob me blind on purchase and sales cost and taxes and moneyexchange cost . So anything on pinksheets is out since I pay allready 2% on a roundtrip plus 1.8% dollar exchange cost .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 24, 2010, 06:17:47 AM
OK I understand why the charts have the pattern they have
with a production target of Q4 2010

Monthly slowstoch upcrossing above 20%

I am proud of you PYW, you actually projected fundamentals into a chart.

You know I got an MBA from the Northwestern Univ ( I believe called Kellogs now )
My major was psychology and my minor investments
However it is a waste of time to read all the hogwash . What you really want to know is not in print most of the time . So I really believe charts tell all most of the time if you also have a degree in advanced statistics . I am also an Engineer from the University of Louvain and statistics has been my minor and hobby all my life . I earned my keep as a chemical plant contruction manager  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 24, 2010, 06:20:45 AM
That is the whole point of pinksheet miners, hoping they get listed on the big boards while you are holding or get bought out.

Adding back some NGD now just in case......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 24, 2010, 06:29:12 AM
NGD is in limbo
Fibbo and downward trendline at 7 candollars
So I wait for the breakout and if it comes close to 7 next week I sell to buyback later
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 24, 2010, 06:54:07 AM
Quote
You know I got an MBA from the Northwestern Univ ( I believe called Kellogs now )
My major was psychology and my minor investments
However it is a waste of time to read all the hogwash . What you really want to know is not in print most of the time . So I really believe charts tell all most of the time if you also have a degree in advanced statistics . I am also an Engineer from the University of Louvain and statistics has been my minor and hobby all my life . I earned my keep as a chemical plant contruction manager  :)

My brother and his wife met in the chemical plant they worked at. She was a chemical major (4yr) and he was never schooled properly but stills runs the batch plant where they grow bacteria (at one time they harvested kelp off the coast here in San Diego and processed that) that produces agar used as an additive in just about everything. He still works there and she went on to teaching at the high school lever after she hit the glass ceiling of promotions for women at the plant. She just walked for a Masters in school administration to help ascend to the ranks of overseer in school networks. Almost doubled her pay just for getting a Masters and staying a teacher.

Not to worried about NGD just bought it back about for 30 cents less than I took profit for.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 24, 2010, 07:03:39 AM
At one time I was environmental responsible  for a kelp gathering plant in Scotland
They extruded the ingredient with chemicals and then pumped the rest back 2 miles far into the sea . They were also bidding on a site in Iceland . That was like 1995 since I was fired in 1996 as being too expensive  ;D
My glass ceiling was that I was too honest and too outspoken  >:(
I did not belong to the old boys club  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 24, 2010, 11:10:57 PM
Normally I agree completely with godmodetrader and even have their prognoses before they have it  :D
But this time I think I have 50% chance of being right we first get a correction instead of
shooting straight up to 1400+
Next week should tell

(https://ssl.godmode-trader.de/charts/46/2005/dda8143.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 24, 2010, 11:35:04 PM
Quote
After spending months crafting legislation, lawmakers pushed through a last-minute deal on what they termed the most challenging part of their task -- establishing for the first time a regulatory structure for the $615 trillion over-the- counter derivatives market. 

That what may end the world is worth only a last minute effort ?  ???

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=ad5ElcZekFJQ
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 25, 2010, 02:51:44 AM
Several months ago ; Germany suggested Greece sell islands to pay debt
Today the Flemish Economic Times announces Greece is going to sell some of its
6000 islands  ;D
This is a must for every rich boat owner . A Greek Island  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 25, 2010, 03:28:23 AM
Gold coin sold for 4 million $

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=abq.jFPtmODI
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 25, 2010, 03:46:14 AM
My short term statistics are getting bi-nodal

Either the short term high is in last monday or we get the short term high next tuesday wednesday

But the only thing that amazes me is that Italy is out of the Worldcup and the US that cannot pronounce english football is IN the next round of the Worldcup
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 25, 2010, 04:19:13 AM
I guess this is why you are only suppose to trade 20% of your portfolio.

There is still a blackout on news about the Gulf spill. A no fly zone so no overhead pictures.

Maybe down to only a month and a half to go for some real action based on seasonality.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 25, 2010, 11:22:34 PM
I finished my weekly stats
I am sure a big move is coming up or down
Some charts favor up but the total chart gold plus miners keeps crawling up for four weeks now with no volatility and that begs for a plunge
Next week should tell  :-\
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 26, 2010, 03:23:01 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-25/bp-bankruptcy-in-u-k-is-obama-s-worst-nightmare-caroline-baum.html

What would this do for the prices of gold???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 26, 2010, 04:34:09 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-25/bp-bankruptcy-in-u-k-is-obama-s-worst-nightmare-caroline-baum.html

What would this do for the prices of gold???

The price of gold and the price of oil are loosely correlated
If the price of oil doubled because of the accident gold might rise
In the meantime gold is still the playtoy of investment banks and the paper gold futures market
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 26, 2010, 04:39:46 AM
Next week gold should shoot up till about wednesday or drop on monday
that is my highest probability short term two scenarios
( Either the gold high is in last monday or still coming )

Godmode traders HUI forecast seems to me too late in the cycle . I do not think we have that many days any more but my short term wealthlab formula gives HUI 525 though

(http://img.godmode-trader.de/charts/46/2005/dda8156.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 26, 2010, 04:44:14 AM
Wealthlab total cyclic
Computer sticks to 111 day cycle and 19 days cycle
HUI 525,36 probable
( note this is the HUI and these are trading days ; whilst my cycles are on spot gold and 7 days a week )

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 26, 2010, 04:38:42 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-25/bp-bankruptcy-in-u-k-is-obama-s-worst-nightmare-caroline-baum.html

What would this do for the prices of gold???

Sinclair's site had an article, I think it was a past brokerage partner of his, said BP is to big to fail. Extends more credit to suppliers and subs than any bank could afford plus they actually have a backing in assets with natural resources versus bank that just have paper assets. Bankruptcy would send all GOM claims, supply chain vendors and sub contractors to the courts with Britain (taxpayers) having to foot the bill in the end. You can forget about any recovery for the British economy as they incur more debt.

Now health related issues are a concern to gulf residences exposed to nearby oil slicks. The fumes alone are potent carrying all the known chemicals derived from oil within them. The worst case scenario is you evacuate all coastal residents, as in, relocate them.  A think tank came up with a number, 44 million people.

The only thing really puzzling with mining sector is that volume has been light overall.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 27, 2010, 02:11:22 AM
The worst case scenario is you evacuate all coastal residents, as in, relocate them.  A think tank came up with a number, 44 million people.
That would sure reduce the price of beach-front property, wouldn't it ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 27, 2010, 04:16:41 AM
The Russians are allready dividing up America

http://beforeitsnews.com/news/87/087/The_Divided_States_of_America.html

(http://www.mcwetboy.net/maproom/images/russian_divided_states.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on June 27, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
Valentina Lisitsa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o3eiEHmJUA&feature=channel)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 28, 2010, 02:39:07 AM
119 days and still counting ( 107 plus 17 missing makes 124 to be perfect )
I think we get a top anywhere between tuesday and friday

My german chart service choose exactly this weekend to "improve" charts from 5 to 10 years span and at the same time they went with gold from 7 days a week to 5 days a week
I have been tracking the 107 days cycle for 10 years based on 7 days a week now I will have to convert the chart to calendar days or my thinking to chartdays
107 calendardays = 78.47 weekdays on average  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 28, 2010, 04:41:20 AM
This is one way to look at the charts of gold

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/TCjI0YB5TYI/AAAAAAAANcw/dJ1-6kBUjxs/s1600/golddaily8.PNG)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 28, 2010, 04:44:00 AM
This is my way
Smaller and smaller configurations with a resolution this week
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on June 28, 2010, 04:48:38 AM
The Russians are allready dividing up America
Here is another plan that I like better:

Workable plan:

1) 'The US, UK , CANADA and  AUSTRALIA  will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere' again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with  Germany,  South Korea , the Middle East, and the  Philippines . They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are from. They're illegal!!!  France  will welcome them.
4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a 'D' and it's back home baby.

 
6) The US, UK , CANADA and  AUSTRALIA  will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while..

7) Offer  Saudi Arabia  and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN  Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens..

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE. Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?
'The Statue of  Liberty  is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?'
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 28, 2010, 09:38:00 PM
I read this morning that the US spends more on their army then all other nations combined
It would make sense to cut back and give some to Tarzan Schwarzy

In the meantime gold is playing pretty lady difficult to get to understand.  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on June 29, 2010, 12:50:30 AM
I read this morning that the US spends more on their army then all other nations combined
It would make sense to cut back and give some to Tarzan Schwarzy

In the meantime gold is playing pretty lady difficult to get to understand.  ???

That is the best way I've heard to describe gold LOL Luckly I was not sipping coffee at the time. A hormone commodity.
 :D :D :D
Nenner says a short term buy opportunity July 8.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on June 29, 2010, 01:09:56 AM
The Russians are allready dividing up America
Here is another plan that I like better:

Workable plan:

1) 'The US, UK , CANADA and  AUSTRALIA  will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere' again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with  Germany,  South Korea , the Middle East, and the  Philippines . They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are from. They're illegal!!!  France  will welcome them.
4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a 'D' and it's back home baby.

 
6) The US, UK , CANADA and  AUSTRALIA  will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while..

7) Offer  Saudi Arabia  and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN  Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens..

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE. Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?
'The Statue of  Liberty  is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?'

The only renewable energy source that outputs more then is input is geothermal.
Things have not changed over the last untold 1000's of years. Colonialism always occurs in one way or another.
Canada's interference tends to be just policing and they usually have more Canadian soldiers killed proportionally then any one else. Incompetent, political,  drunken  military management.
Canada send more oil to USA than any other country X2 now. Its mostly tar sands (actually better described as coal sands) source. If USA does not want it China... will.
If you came to Calgary you would be surprised how American it is, major difference is cleaner.
Things are evolving as they must and it likely will reduce the world population by half over the next several decades.
Be prepared - I was a boy scout in my youth.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 29, 2010, 02:48:51 AM
I read this morning that the US spends more on their army then all other nations combined
It would make sense to cut back and give some to Tarzan Schwarzy

In the meantime gold is playing pretty lady difficult to get to understand.  ???

That is the best way I've heard to describe gold LOL Luckly I was not sipping coffee at the time. A hormone commodity.
 :D :D :D
Nenner says a short term buy opportunity July 8.

Wealthlab gives me a 19 days cycle if you count yesterday as a "high" then you come to july 8 .

I will wait to see what the slow stoch with setting 10.3.3 does. If it goes to 20% I will call 21 june the high and wait for a low on 17.3.3 or 27.3.3 settings to buy miners  :-\

Pretty lady dance for me, dance for me , all day long  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 29, 2010, 08:53:39 PM
This is the ninth day gold is undecided
It is in a slim jim giving no indication of up or down
But normally it goes out upwards
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 30, 2010, 11:34:53 PM
I have decided that the high was on 21 st june on day 112 of a nominal 107 day cycle
We are now in day 11 of the new and last 2010 subcycle
The decision was made on basis of the slow stoch going below 50%

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/459/june2010cycle.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 01, 2010, 09:44:49 PM
I was only a few hours before gold dropped 40$ and everybody saw the high was in

I think the low may be somewhere the next two weeks allready ( subject to chart confirmation )
In the meantime I watch the privateer p and f chart

http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/gold-pf.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 01, 2010, 09:50:42 PM
Godmode trader said 1196.40 would be first  support and it was

(https://ssl.godmode-trader.de/charts/46/2005/dda8182.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 02, 2010, 04:12:29 AM
Any football world cup fans around ?

I watched my first game
quarter final Holland against Brazil and got NOT disappointed . I had
full expected Brazil to win , so it was an amazing match and Holland
with 2-1 kicked Brazil out of the game.
This is only the 19 th time the Brazilian International team ever loses
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 03, 2010, 01:51:35 AM
Miners on a 21 day short cycle
Next two weeks could allready be buying opps
I will slip slide in over several weeks ; the same way I slip slided out with mixed success
( too early on the South Africans and just right on the Canadians so on average not bad )

Allthough substantial part of my "lossses" are incurred by the euro going up against the cando  ???

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on July 03, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
At this present time I feel like a gold miner/owner and as most of you know my wife and I have parted ways. She got the gold and I got the shaft! ;) Thats what she wanted and thats what I got! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 03, 2010, 07:24:44 PM
I'm back in with less than 10% cash now when my low ball bids hit, basically gaps fills. Norcini called this one correctly so far at support $1200. Probably bought in early as usual but I'll be happy to sit through consolidation. Hopefully that will happen without further corrections.

Miners haven't really haven't done anything long term, still getting ripe. Spot holding here will help bottom lines out a lot.

All these temporary government fixes just draws out the inevitable conclusion.

I've been soldering in an upgrade kit for my Klipsch 5.1 Ultra sub, about 20 items (resistors, caps, etc.) and a fan for the hot spot. If I only knew what I was doing would help a lot. But it works as my neighbors can attest to that fact.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 03, 2010, 11:15:10 PM
At this present time I feel like a gold miner/owner and as most of you know my wife and I have parted ways. She got the gold and I got the shaft! ;) Thats what she wanted and thats what I got! ;D

My gold is in bank safes and my wife does not know the codes nor the safe numbers.
She is not even interested what we got .
As long as she can buy whatever she wants she is not interested were the money is or comes from . ;D She is happy and I am happy  ;)
I got the gold and the shaft  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 03, 2010, 11:18:10 PM
I'm back in with less than 10% cash now when my low ball bids hit, basically gaps fills. Norcini called this one correctly so far at support $1200. Probably bought in early as usual but I'll be happy to sit through consolidation. Hopefully that will happen without further corrections.

Miners haven't really haven't done anything long term, still getting ripe. Spot holding here will help bottom lines out a lot.

All these temporary government fixes just draws out the inevitable conclusion.

I've been soldering in an upgrade kit for my Klipsch 5.1 Ultra sub, about 20 items (resistors, caps, etc.) and a fan for the hot spot. If I only knew what I was doing would help a lot. But it works as my neighbors can attest to that fact.

I have 17 % cash and my prelim wish-list is made Oceana ; NG ; Lake Shore; Anglo ;
and maybe Jinshan. Do you know what is wrong with Jinshan ? Falling like a brick on monthly stoch and oversold on weekly and daily timeframes .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 03, 2010, 11:38:47 PM
Next week
First too into the water since on daily gold is oversold
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 03, 2010, 11:43:39 PM
From shorty on the stool
The end of rich americans ?

The final nail in the coffin of America will be pounded January 1st, after which the top 1% will realize that they pushed way too far, cannot turn back, cannot run, and cannot hide......they will randomly and individually begin paying the consequences for their actions. The idle unemployed masses may be dumbed down, but they're not totally stupid, they're angry, and quite a few of them will gleefully take up the new American pastime -- hunting the top 1% for sport. What an embarrassing way to go -- via estate gate-crashing blue-collar flash mobs on raw uncut 3-minute youtube videos.

In just six months, the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 2011

First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

Personal income tax rates will rise.

Higher taxes on marriage and family.

The return of the Death Tax.

Higher tax rates on savers and investors.

Second Wave: Obamacare

There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Several will first go into effect on January 1, 2011. They include:

The “Medicine Cabinet Tax”.

The “Special Needs Kids Tax”

The HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike.

Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes

The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last year.

Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will disappear.

Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is the loss of the “research and experimentation tax credit,” but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed.

http://www.atr.org/sixmonths.html?content=5171
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on July 04, 2010, 01:33:09 AM
From shorty on the stool
The end of rich americans ?
Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Corvette than in a Yugo.. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on July 04, 2010, 02:16:30 AM
   Well now that I know whats coming I am so thankful I don't have anything left! ;) It may be time to dig in and I can still afford a shovel! At least I am safe hiding in this castle!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 04, 2010, 03:51:26 AM
From shorty on the stool
The end of rich americans ?
Money can't buy happiness -- but somehow it's more comfortable to cry in a Corvette than in a Yugo.. 

In 1996 my last year with a merican multinational
There was a money donation campaign for invalids
A poster showed somebody in a wheelchair with the caption
" And yet it is more bearable with some money in the pocket"
However shocking this poster was ; I guess it was right .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 04, 2010, 03:54:04 AM
   Well now that I know whats coming I am so thankful I don't have anything left! ;) It may be time to dig in and I can still afford a shovel! At least I am safe hiding in this castle!

I hope you still got those guns  ;)
If society breaks down you can shoot what you want  8)
How is the castle doing for food and water-supply ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 04, 2010, 04:23:05 AM
Bookmark - daily updated - Celente for those brief moments of optimism.
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2010/07/tax-protests-tea-parties-riots.html

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 04, 2010, 04:34:34 AM
At this present time I feel like a gold miner/owner and as most of you know my wife and I have parted ways. She got the gold and I got the shaft! ;) Thats what she wanted and thats what I got! ;D

Been their, done that. Have come to the conclusion that most women in times of affluence are incapable of commitment. Have expectations that they need to be worshiped/ the center of the universe for you, irrespective of reality. Also have a strong lemmings instinct - cliff jumpers.
Remember reading many decades ago about depressions having the most stable/ lowest times of divorce... because of necessity.
Suspect that this and many years to come will be a reality slap.

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 04, 2010, 05:24:48 AM
I'm back in with less than 10% cash now when my low ball bids hit, basically gaps fills. Norcini called this one correctly so far at support $1200. Probably bought in early as usual but I'll be happy to sit through consolidation. Hopefully that will happen without further corrections.

Miners haven't really haven't done anything long term, still getting ripe. Spot holding here will help bottom lines out a lot.

All these temporary government fixes just draws out the inevitable conclusion.

I've been soldering in an upgrade kit for my Klipsch 5.1 Ultra sub, about 20 items (resistors, caps, etc.) and a fan for the hot spot. If I only knew what I was doing would help a lot. But it works as my neighbors can attest to that fact.

I have 17 % cash and my prelim wish-list is made Oceana ; NG ; Lake Shore; Anglo ;
and maybe Jinshan. Do you know what is wrong with Jinshan ? Falling like a brick on monthly stoch and oversold on weekly and daily timeframes .

Quote
...Under the deal, China National Gold Group will acquire Ivanhoe's entire holding of 67.5 million shares in Jinshan at $3.1115 per share.

China National Gold will also issue a promissory note of $7.5 million by June 26, 2010, together with accrued interest at 12% from March 31 of this year....

Basically, as I read it, Jinshan doesn't have shit and the shit they do have is low grade. BTW, did you know China is a communist country? The market says its current value is such a price then that's what it's worth. So how can Rainy River be @ $6us already and no production, go figure.

RGLD was a precursor to this down move as it was getting beat up on unmercifully just prior. Waterfall event in spot needs a formation to form for a reading as it could go either up, down or sideways. Still trending up long term. Smart money in miners seems to be picking and choosing ignoring spot's threatening performance for the most part.

The real damaging tax is hidden in the devaluation of a currency. OTOH, taxes will be viewed upon as a good thing even as citizens must suffer/bare the cost of over spending by governments, to bad governments always spend more than they take in. ex. VAT, not only does it not ever go away, it increases.

At the store, packaging is getting larger and content amounts smaller but the price stays the same, is this deflation or inflation? Probably just marketing.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 04, 2010, 06:25:24 AM
Thanks Whadda.

I use statistics like a card counter in a casino .
Today I am in day 14 of the new subcycle . The final cycle will center around 107 days plus 12 days I am still short . The cumulative % however will only be 50% at the highest point of probability. In English I have a 50% chance the high happens or HAS happened on 119 days
In the past 5 years ( 15 subcycles) the bottom has been 3 or 4 weeks after the top most of the time . So I will buy some next week and double the week after and so on .
For the moment I got too much yamana and not enough NG and NGD

August
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 04, 2010, 05:02:55 PM
NG and NGD are very good bets. They all will go up, some just faster than others. Your count works into an August run nicely.
If silver ever takes off don't forget HL.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 04, 2010, 11:46:11 PM
NG and NGD are very good bets. They all will go up, some just faster than others. Your count works into an August run nicely.
If silver ever takes off don't forget HL.

The German anticyclic contra investor put NG on a partial sell signal
The south african miners are up this morning
If we are having an ABC down B could be starting today
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 04, 2010, 11:59:49 PM
Last year summer bottom was july 8
the indicators are allready around 50%
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 05, 2010, 12:01:25 AM
Daily is allready oversold

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 05, 2010, 02:39:35 AM
I bought a full position of Oceana gold 2.86 cad and 15% below what I sold it for
15% cash left
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 05, 2010, 06:04:49 AM
Your charts are screaming 'buy' aren't they? At least short term (days). NG NGD both up this morning, did the Germans mean sell the tops and buy the bottoms in NG? Oops, unreliable overseas quoting on my end.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 05, 2010, 09:04:05 AM
Your charts are screaming 'buy' aren't they? At least short term (days). NG NGD both up this morning, did the Germans mean sell the tops and buy the bottoms in NG? Oops, unreliable overseas quoting on my end.

Many times in the past the cycle bottom has been week 3 or week 4 after the top of the previous cycle
We are now in the first day of week 3 . So slipsliding in is my option ; since I do not know how strong
or how week the miners are . I am looking at the 200 ema to buy shares and the 65 ema in the real strong
miners.

Kitco and the Germans have the same advise sell/hold for Novagold
http://www.kitco.com/ind/matlack/jun292010_juniors.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 05, 2010, 08:24:05 PM
Iceland is trying to jail its bankers

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hkg5VhwETJHWaiIqxwwj_PsHQ2Dg
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 05, 2010, 11:11:21 PM
The weekly charts have had their minimum reaction ( which can go on to oversold
but does not HAVE to )
Notice that several times the bottom was in week 3 ( the red figures are minus for the downweeks and plus for the upweeks in the subcycle )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 06, 2010, 08:42:44 PM
Williams and CCI are allready down on weekly charts
Slow stoch only half way
Sinclair says to watch 8-15 july ( I guess that is the Bradley ?)

1160 is a 50% fibo and a resistance . If gold goes there I will buy with all my cash

There are nuts talking about gold 600 $ ( but they do not know that is now the average cost to mine it ; they are possibly paid to try and get somebody to hedge at todays 1190 )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 07, 2010, 02:15:10 AM
Bought half NGD back 7% below yesterday and 17% below my sales price
at 5.66 cad
The hunt is on
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 07, 2010, 08:43:33 AM
Newsnoise
NGD being downgraded from Buy to Hold because of Problems in Mexico again
Did they forget to pay the necessary bakshees ?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ud?s=NGD

http://www.reuters.com/article/idAFSGE6660GO20100707?rpc=44
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 07, 2010, 09:02:34 AM
Purloined from the stool

(http://www.capitalstool.com/forums/uploads/post-1110-12785335349247.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 07, 2010, 11:25:25 AM
Wonder if you can get 'Fukitol" in IV drip bags?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 07, 2010, 07:59:14 PM
Wonder if you can get 'Fukitol" in IV drip bags?

whiskey, rum, vodka, gin in a judicious combination will have the same effect .

Now all daily gold indicators have decided to start an up phase which may last 10 days
South Africans are up 2.5% this morning here
There is no guarantee the next 10 days down phase will give better prices although the weekly is still down
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 08, 2010, 06:25:19 AM
If at first you don't succeed you bump your head against the wall again and again until it crumbles

I bought another slice of NGD at 5.11 cad

I am going to nail that low even if it is ZERO
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 08, 2010, 06:48:20 AM
You might be early on NGD. They claim the Mexican version of the EPA and court decision affects 30% of the company's overall production output and they were/are in full production there. It will take time to resolve. It would have to drop to the $1.70 level for me to start losing money, doubt that's going to happen. You can just never tell what might happen in the mining world so not to put all your eggs in one basket.

The cup and handle chart that everyone was relying on turns out to be a weak pattern not your classic pattern. The longer spot holds above $1180 the more it is corrective and considered consolidation. Below that then more healing will be involved.

Miners today not acting together with some up most down. So I wait until August rolls around to see how strong a move up we get. Of course I was early on buying back in but a triggering event could occur at anytime so I'd rater be parked in miners and just wait it out.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 08, 2010, 08:11:46 AM
I got 11 miners right now
Massively more then the 5 max I had in 1980
There is a 50 % cumulative chance the gold low is in end of next week at 1160 fibo and resistance .
I have 10% cash left .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 08, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
Finally dharma has a different forecast then I do
He got a low oct/nov and I got an high  ;D

I am very disappointed in Kinross
Will have to go in the next upswing
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 09, 2010, 06:26:21 AM
I'm going with Armstrong's next July for a top after a huge run up in spot and miners including all the pullbacks on the way up then a 6 month or so correction until wave 5 commences  and if no solutions are found to debt problems, that run can go to untold heights continuing through 2014.

Like BV and K wave rider, they get their turn dates correct but not the intensity of the move correct. In a bull the pull backs are limited in the down moves.

Nice play on NGD August, at least for the time being. Done that many times with NG, NGD and others when they are having short term problems.

dhrama never posts his work so I'm not sure what or who he is following or why. I'd put some channels up but Norcini does that for me lately. We are below the intermediate trend and need to return to the major channels. Should happen in August sometime after this consolidation. I'll be surprise if the $1080 area can be broken for more than a day or two now.

Just have to remember to sell the tops. I rarely sit out more than a couple of weeks but that's because I'm my own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 09, 2010, 06:44:48 AM
All miners have slow stochs shooting up like corks out of the water
The bottom of the 21? day cycle is in and we go up for another 6 market days I guess.
(allready 4 over)
This is the third week in the 107 days cycle and it could be a bottom . I rate its chances at
50% now of it being a bottom.Otherwise it is in two weeks
My best buy seems Oceana up 5%+ sofar on the day
I will sit on 10 % cash now for a full week and that hurts my go get mentality

dharma changed his tune to say we are on the same page , what a reed in the wind.
( He says he is an astro follower)

For some or other reason my work and Armstrong still and allways differs about two months
I have a tentative high oct/nov .Take nov plus 11 months is oct next year
Take oct and 10 months (shortened cycles ) and I get august lol .
Depending on how steep we get I keep all options open with oct 2011 as target

I may sell end of next week something if I can get 15% net gain
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 09, 2010, 06:54:12 AM
Todays chart
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 09, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
I see Dharmaeye says he went to cash.  He might be early on the end of the month sell off or he knows something we don't in the short term.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 09, 2010, 02:25:05 PM
I see Dharmaeye says he went to cash.  He might be early on the end of the month sell off or he knows something we don't in the short term.

Thrashing over the next month or so.
Mid August buy for gold, end of Sept for XAU and Plat. These look like buy and Hold.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 09, 2010, 11:56:55 PM
If next weeks rally is meaningfull I may be selling some more dogs and cats
Anglogold ; Kinross
and some overbought like
Tanzanian ; Oceana
and NGD if I get gains

I stick to my prediction that there is 50% chance the low is in for the year
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 10, 2010, 01:01:50 AM
Wealthlab total cyclic from Seven of Eleven
The low in HUI is in or close
short term 23 days cycle now ; long term back to 111 days cycle
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 10, 2010, 01:03:13 AM
Buying gold in the summer sales

http://www.resourceinvestor.com/News/2010/7/Pages/Buying-Gold-in-the-Summer-Sales-.aspx
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 10, 2010, 06:26:38 AM
Armstrong talks about the DOW short term and some turn dates. Even he can't predict the direction for sure basically says if it goes up now then it goes down later vice versa.

The markets don't like uncertainly here in the States so if the Republicans take a majority in the House in November and possibly the Senate the market reaction should be down leading up to the elections.

Not to be confused with spot which continues a steady climb overall even with all the noise.   
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 10, 2010, 06:29:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZjMElBgrog&playnext_from=TL&videos=ssL5j7Fn2iA
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 10, 2010, 06:53:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZjMElBgrog&playnext_from=TL&videos=ssL5j7Fn2iA

The Belgian group against pirating tried to shut down the Pirate Bay in Sweden by demanding that the court order the internet providers to block the Pirate Bay
The Judge in Commercial Court refused to hear the case  ;D

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 10, 2010, 06:31:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZjMElBgrog&playnext_from=TL&videos=ssL5j7Fn2iA

The Belgian group against pirating tried to shut down the Pirate Bay in Sweden by demanding that the court order the internet providers to block the Pirate Bay
The Judge in Commercial Court refused to hear the case  ;D

Glad to hear PB still survives, I know the owners got thrown in jail but I think they sold it to become millionaires. That judge must be pulling down movies in less than a hour with 2,000 seeders or more. Doesn't want to mess up a good thing.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 10, 2010, 11:53:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZjMElBgrog&playnext_from=TL&videos=ssL5j7Fn2iA

The Belgian group against pirating tried to shut down the Pirate Bay in Sweden by demanding that the court order the internet providers to block the Pirate Bay
The Judge in Commercial Court refused to hear the case  ;D
Glad to hear PB still survives, I know the owners got thrown in jail but I think they sold it to become millionaires. That judge must be pulling down movies in less than a hour with 2,000 seeders or more. Doesn't want to mess up a good thing.

Fastest Belgian internet does really 500 to 525 kbps
A movie is about 30 minutes then

The Russians and of all things the Iranians are ready to take over
if the PB  would be taken of line

I got Filmnet paid for and I was amazed to see there is a new ( prequel) for Star Trek
and I liked it . They also broadcasted like 12 hours of the series FlasForwards in one daytime : that was too much for me so I taped it .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 11, 2010, 09:27:12 PM
The British newspaper hat a good resume of Spain Holland worldcup

The Dutch kicked ( and got like 8 yellow cards and a red for their brutality) and the Spanish won  :D

For gold the up phase in the 21 day cycle just started and the 107 day cycle is trying to turn upwards . Whether we dip deeper or not after this is open . 1160 is still my resistance first line
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 12, 2010, 06:52:41 AM
Below $1160 and we enter a real correction. $2000 $1200 area trying to be a floor even with the heavy hitting on spot gold and silver prices.
Still acting like consolidation. Until a lower low is closed on around $1180 all this is noise.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 12, 2010, 08:21:44 AM
Yep noise but more important , time .
If the high comes after 107 days plus change to make up for the lost days then time has
to go by to get an high .
Of course this kind of cycle does not give a low in time nor price .
Since the 10 days up phase of the 21 day cycle seems to be more sidewards then upwards
we are not out of the woods yet .
At the top of this cycle which coincides with a top in the South Africans I will be selling some more South Africans aka Harmony
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 12, 2010, 08:31:07 AM
Regular markets need to run up so it sets themselves up for a crash in the fall. Gold/miners just need to continue a steady climb into August for a launch. Been about a year in the lower channel for spot gold, a break up and out of the channel seems to be the tendency.

If Armstrong's foreseeing is correct then the only way to make money in the miners is trading the wild swings as it does a steady climb up in the years ahead (long term).
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 12, 2010, 08:56:27 AM
Trading only makes sense as long as we are not parabolic
Otherwise once out you will never find the courage to buy back 25% higher or more

However I am now rotating out of the first three stocks I owned since 1999
That are Anglogold, Harmony and Kinross which I bought as Echo bay

I will keep trading mostly to get out of some companies and into smaller ones
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 12, 2010, 07:36:08 PM
Europe just opened for business and is trying to push the goldprice up a few dollars

In the meantime China bought a Billion Euro bonds from Spain
( Right before the US tries to sell 10 year bonds today ; but we know they allways get
bought by "somebody" if need be with new electronic dollars )

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/69eb723a-8df3-11df-9153-00144feab49a.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 12, 2010, 11:37:29 PM
Gold targets from the ennemy ( the big banks)

HVB US$ 1.350,--

Deutsche Bank UD$ 2.000,--

(http://Deutsche Bank UD$ 2.000,--)

Bank of America/Merrill Lynch US$ 1,300,--

ERSTE Bank US$ 2.300,--
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 13, 2010, 05:01:18 AM
I see the Pound is under attack now. In the background I'm sure CDS bets have all been placed. Supposedly the US$ is next in line for a beating. I don't see any clear cut winner in a new fiat anywhere yet. Lots of talk but no one to trust with a new reserve currency.

Seems miners not acting quite right it today. Some penny stocks having higher percentage move than the bulk of them. Distribution? Then one more short term run up and another retest of the $1200 area before leaving it behind.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 13, 2010, 05:06:28 AM
UK debt is ‘twice as much as we thought’
12 July 2010, 7:37am

The true scale of the national debt is £2 trillion – more than twice the official figure, an alarming study shows.

The black hole in the public accounts equates to £78,000 for every household in the country.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=508582&in_page_id=2&ito=1565
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 13, 2010, 05:16:53 AM
Hehe
One German forecaster says in the future a house will cost 5 to 10 ounces of gold.

A veteran investor asked whether that would be a shithouse, a doghouse or a birdhouse  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 13, 2010, 06:35:54 AM
I can see where the manipulators have things firmly under control in this banking meltdown. Pass debt onto taxpayers. Move the debt dark cloud around slowly to each area of the world's continents. Extend debt payments out to future generations. Keep spot on a leash. A controlled melt down, if you will.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 14, 2010, 12:14:42 AM
I sold half of my remaining Harmony this morning
The rest are at zero bookvalue ( free shares )
Back to 10% cash now
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 14, 2010, 04:50:22 AM
Oh I forgot
Today the French have their National "4th of July" type of holiday

Bastille Day
Allonz enfants de la patrie , le jour de gloire est arrivé.........

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/TD3QvaIAdLI/AAAAAAAANtk/0Acn5SK-oeA/s400/delacroix-liberty-leading-the-people-1830.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on July 14, 2010, 10:53:31 AM
There is ONE thing I like about that photo? Do you have her phone number?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 14, 2010, 09:36:05 PM
There is ONE thing I like about that photo? Do you have her phone number?

That was before Napoleon I . So she is more then 200 year old  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 15, 2010, 08:32:09 PM
@ dharmeye
Saw you got slapped on the fingers by allmighty DOC  ???
All the sheeple are lemmings of whatever sex ; they are going to bring us the parabolic blow off

Today is option expiration for gold july
I guess they will try for 1200 exact

I was eyeing two shares and they both went up 25% before I could buy   ??? ??? ???
Jinshan and Orvana
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on July 16, 2010, 01:11:16 AM
The gold market, right now, kind of reminds me of sitting in a rocking-chair!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2010, 05:02:49 AM
The gold market, right now, kind of reminds me of sitting in a rocking-chair!

Since the 107 day top was in a shakeout was to be foreseen . 1160 $ still is my probable low
The volatility is only going to get worse ; so better get a safety belt for that rocking chair  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 16, 2010, 07:11:20 AM
@ dharmeye
Saw you got slapped on the fingers by allmighty DOC  ???
All the sheeple are lemmings of whatever sex ; they are going to bring us the parabolic blow off

Today is option expiration for gold july
I guess they will try for 1200 exact

I was eyeing two shares and they both went up 25% before I could buy   ??? ??? ???
Jinshan and Orvana

Yeh, suppose I should have given equal time to males. Lot higher incidence of Psychopathy and mental disability for males. Used the term relatively in both cases.
Doc has not studied history and is very unusual for his religion in his attitudes. Not interested in a pissing match.
Gold 1066 sometime in the next year or so. May be as soon as mid August.
I'm in cash and physical period, right now.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2010, 09:09:57 PM
@ dharmeye
Saw you got slapped on the fingers by allmighty DOC  ???
All the sheeple are lemmings of whatever sex ; they are going to bring us the parabolic blow off

Today is option expiration for gold july
I guess they will try for 1200 exact

I was eyeing two shares and they both went up 25% before I could buy   ??? ??? ???
Jinshan and Orvana

Yeh, suppose I should have given equal time to males. Lot higher incidence of Psychopathy and mental disability for males. Used the term relatively in both cases.
Doc has not studied history and is very unusual for his religion in his attitudes. Not interested in a pissing match.
Gold 1066 sometime in the next year or so. May be as soon as mid August.
I'm in cash and physical period, right now.

Doc is a money machine  unashamedly begging for donations
He does not want to have any potential subscriber offended be it somebody's dog
I lost several pen pals in the old days when he still was doing a booming subscription
Like Maximiser who got banned for saying volume in stocks is important
Doc did not want to hear that and banned him ; of course volume blow offs are important
I tried to stay in touch by private mail but people move on .

I will have to take out my Alf Field printouts again . When the summer bottom is in I only see higher dollar prices ; especially since I get the shaft from the candollar. My losses on candollar are about half of my total losses the last month. Procent wise my physical is doing 2.5 times worse then my miners calculated in euro for the last four weeks . :(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2010, 11:29:49 PM
Golden Sack showing its own agenda by pushing miners to sell forward and hedge  ???

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=108021&sn=Detail&pid=102055
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2010, 11:32:50 PM
Tanzanian is again nr 6 on the best list  ;D
It was nr 1 for weeks and weeks on end way back

http://www.barchart.com/stocks/sectors/-104A?f=sic
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2010, 11:36:36 PM
HUI near real time Hurst this could be the bottom

(http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/chart?chartname=Chart66&rand=56602)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2010, 11:38:09 PM
Hurst dominancy , bottom close

(http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/chart?chartname=Chart67&rand=96734)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2010, 11:39:42 PM
My favorite total cyclic close to bottom
Note the cycle lengthened to 117 days  ;D
I was short a little more then 10 days  ;D

(http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/chart?chartname=Chart68&rand=60726)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 17, 2010, 10:36:03 AM
Arch Crawford
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2010/07/astrologer-and-chartist-arch-crawford.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TrendsForecastsAndPropheciesBlog+%28Trends+Forecasts+and+Prophecies+Blog%29&utm_content=Yahoo!+Mail

The Gulf BP thing.
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2010/7/17_Matt_Simmons_files/Matt%20Simmons%207%3A17%3A2010.mp3

Could these be combined?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 17, 2010, 11:38:03 PM
Wealth lab corrupted and replace the charts I posted
Back to Snagit I will have to go I guess
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 19, 2010, 12:19:00 AM
Ten days ago I bought some Leopold II Latin Union 20 BF coins
They arrived and all but one are MS64 or better ( one has an edge knick )

(http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3525&g2_serialNumber=1)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 19, 2010, 04:27:10 AM
Why oh why is it always so that the miners I own go down and the ones
I want to buy go up ?  ???
Orvana, Kirkland, Osisko
Only Lake Shore which has been dead for 5 months stays dead .

Looks like I am going to get gold 1161 the 50 % Fibo number
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on July 19, 2010, 01:06:43 PM
Its called Murphy's Law and the jerk has lived with me all my life!!! Seems you may have one of his relatives living with you in Belgium. Maybe I need to send mine to visit yours? ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 19, 2010, 10:53:56 PM
Its called Murphy's Law and the jerk has lived with me all my life!!! Seems you may have one of his relatives living with you in Belgium. Maybe I need to send mine to visit yours? ;D

I am an engineer so I know all the variants
Some I like are
If everything else fails , read the instructions
Everything works better if you plug in the plug in the mains
There is nobody more dangerous then somebody with good intentions and no knowledge
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 19, 2010, 11:15:16 PM
Today is make or break for HUI

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 20, 2010, 03:32:04 AM
The HUI saved it for another day  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 20, 2010, 01:39:58 PM
The HUI saved it for another day  :D

It crashed then recovered in about an hour's time so you were right with it going down and up.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 20, 2010, 09:53:17 PM
Shown is the 107 day cycle in a weekly chart
The bottom may be in or close or it may be a double bottom  :P

The daily chart shows we go up for a few days at least
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 21, 2010, 02:55:51 AM
hehehe

godmode trader says we go up and again I was half a day earlier then they are  :D

http://www.godmode-trader.de/nachricht/GOLD-Aufwaertstrend-bestaetigt-jetzt,a2239575.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 21, 2010, 07:46:28 AM
Bernie doing a head fake with further pumping of money into the system. SOW falls below 10.000 again and they will be looking for new ways to spur the economy or maybe just the numbers representing the economy. These wishful thinking statements are only good for a couple of hours.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 23, 2010, 04:36:17 AM
bwahaha

7 of the 91 banks in 20 european countries failed the stress test ( which was very soft )
5 Spanish local cajas , one greek ATE bank and .........................tada a german bank

(http://static1.tijd.be/i/00/b2/91.369x246.jpeg?ts=1279902279000)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 23, 2010, 06:05:07 AM
Without crashing below $1080 spot price I still say we are in consolidation mode. An absolute bottoming is not necessary in miners just need to finish building a base.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 23, 2010, 06:08:52 AM
I am in day 33 = end of week 5
I still have like 10% cash since I distrust the action sofar
1161$ = 50 % fibo still is not off the menu

Signed Sleepless in Seattle  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 23, 2010, 06:36:43 AM
I could go to the shooting range every weekend with my niece and her husband and shoot hand guns, rifles, shotguns, semi-military guns. Do some target practice or shoot skeet. Just run down to WalMart and buy some shells and I'd be all set. I guess I'm just to lazy to go do it. Shoot skeet about once every ten years and I'm happy. I do have a Daisy air pump rifle (with a scope, ha ha) using pellets or BBs I can pump it up two or three times and occasionally bounce the ammo off cats in the yard.

Can you even possess BB or pellet guns in Europe? Or air guns? How'bout paint ball guns? Slingshots?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 25, 2010, 12:42:27 AM
I could go to the shooting range every weekend with my niece and her husband and shoot hand guns, rifles, shotguns, semi-military guns. Do some target practice or shoot skeet. Just run down to WalMart and buy some shells and I'd be all set. I guess I'm just to lazy to go do it. Shoot skeet about once every ten years and I'm happy. I do have a Daisy air pump rifle (with a scope, ha ha) using pellets or BBs I can pump it up two or three times and occasionally bounce the ammo off cats in the yard.

Can you even possess BB or pellet guns in Europe? Or air guns? How'bout paint ball guns? Slingshots?

They tried a law forbidding pellet guns but it did not stick
Tazers are forbidden but you can buy them in Germany for use against animals
1000 volt typ
Teargas is forbidden and so is pepperspray but you can buy it in Germany for use against ?
Knifes are forbidden but a good kitchen set will do .

Forbidden means a Kalashnikov costs 100 euro on the black market , just watch out you do not buy it from an agent provocateur working for the government . My grandfather threw a perfectly good Luger into the cesspit days before the German invasion army arrived and hired a car and chauffeur and took his St Gaudens gold pieces and went off to southern France for 5 years .
My father a law abiding citizens rode to war with 24 horses and 2 canons and was captured on day 3 without having fired a shot . He spent 4 years eating german worms and scarabs and cats working his but off for a german farmer and coming back kind of mentally crippled .

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 25, 2010, 12:50:28 AM
I am totally lost in Edwards and Magee forms and in Slow stochs
I am in day 35 of 107 nominal
I made a Gan Fan and again 1161 comes up  :)


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 25, 2010, 12:59:15 AM
And another german hustler
one troy ounce gold 100 mills  :D

http://cgi.ebay.de/1-Troy-oz-100-mills-Gold-Maple-Leaf-TOP-RAR-/220642809803?cmd=ViewItem&pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item335f5617cb
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 25, 2010, 06:18:04 AM
You'd could still get a low in the $1160 area but it could be an inter-day spike low and with miners and spot seemingly at a disconnect (sometimes one up the other down) that kind action in spot may not mean much other than manipulators are at work and still trying.
]
Whatever, time is running out in this battle.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 25, 2010, 09:54:19 PM
exactly
time is running out
weekly slow stochs are below 20% it has to happen soon ( counting in weeks )

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 25, 2010, 10:03:42 PM
On a daily basis the decisions is today or tomorrow further down or up

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 26, 2010, 03:05:22 AM
On a daily basis the decisions is today or tomorrow further down or up

Further down it is to 1161 I suppose ; but that opens the possibility of this being
A of an ABC and me no likey . Cause that means back to playing computer games
to fill the time  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 26, 2010, 04:32:50 AM
Germany has prepared the new 20 mark note for leaving the EU

(http://knightsofthecointable.com/membersforum/gallery/33_26_07_10_9_31_18.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 27, 2010, 03:02:11 AM
Ah yes baby
1161 I called for 1161 I got . What now ?

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8364/27juli.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 27, 2010, 04:11:04 AM
If it stays down, then we repair until the end of August. Still some miners ignoring spot so far this AM.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 27, 2010, 04:56:30 AM
If it stays down, then we repair until the end of August. Still some miners ignoring spot so far this AM.

Yes rub it in  :D
All miners i have are like 3% down and the ones I want to buy are marginally down or up

Since I am in day 36 already it would bode bad for a nice cycle top if we do not bottom soon
in the 107 nominal day cycle . Any bottom around half cycle is already predicting a lackluster top .

So I hope the low is in or will be the next five trading days
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 27, 2010, 11:51:39 PM
Gold wisdom from the german godmode trader
I think we have not enough time to do 1080 ; and I hope not otherwise another lousy mining year

(http://img.godmode-trader.de/charts/3/2005/rag311.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 27, 2010, 11:54:55 PM
And another german foresees 417 HUI
Also the 10 year gold vs HUI shows buying and keeping gold was as good as buying HUI

http://www.goldseiten.de/content/diverses/artikel.php?storyid=14040
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 28, 2010, 06:17:40 AM
Just interviewed by Financial Sense.
Following is apparently nominated for Academy award.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50078/Collapse__part_1_/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50113/Collapse__part_2_/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 29, 2010, 04:29:00 AM
I still think the bottom is being made
The long cycle is still 121 days and the short cycle is still shortening from 21 already down
to 17 days
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on July 29, 2010, 06:17:29 AM
Just interviewed by Financial Sense.
Following is apparently nominated for Academy award.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50078/Collapse__part_1_/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50113/Collapse__part_2_/

Martin Armstrong speaks of all these events but more in chart and cycle form. Kinda views it in black and white without the emotion even though he is in a real life situation but the end result is still the same. Hypertiger always speaks of culling the human race except more in a random and indiscriminate fashion to reduce the demand of resources to sustainalbility. In reality, money has little to do with the situation, containing growth is the problem. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 30, 2010, 06:24:20 AM
Subject to confirmation on monday the short term bottom is in

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 30, 2010, 07:04:55 AM
I put my money where my mouth is and doubled up on NG for 6.34 cad
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 31, 2010, 11:25:24 PM
The germans believe a late august bottom ; some believe it is over
On a german forum someone offered Leopold II kings LMU 5.8 grams at 6% below melt
with pictures
I took all that where MS
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 31, 2010, 11:29:55 PM
This is a  MS66 from last batch

(http://knightsofthecointable.com/membersforum/gallery/33_01_08_10_4_28_28.jpeg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 02, 2010, 09:41:57 PM
@ dharmeye
what are doc's cycle charts saying ? ( I won a 3 months subscription on ebay a year ago and they were useless to me )

My cycles say the gold bottom is in on the daily chart and mathematically my monthly charts only make sense if August shoots up to 1300 $ or stays for a longer period at or above an all time high

(http://a.imageshack.us/img812/4083/3aug.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 02, 2010, 09:48:37 PM
The short cycle keeps getting shorter and the long cycle keeps getting longer
very strange development

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 02, 2010, 09:55:17 PM
Hurst Dominancy ; all cycles turning up

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 03, 2010, 07:50:09 AM
Looks like mining charts are doing a slow repair job on recent damage. This is better than gaping.  Probably the typical build up until the  op-ex smack down then sit back and relax for a month or two.

You couldn't ask for much more out of a silver miner than what HL is doing still it continues to be suppressed along with the rest of the miners.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on August 03, 2010, 04:40:53 PM
Seems that the gold Cartel is saying: "Beatings will continue until moral improves!"  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 03, 2010, 08:44:54 PM
Seems that the gold Cartel is saying: "Beatings will continue until moral improves!"  Hmmm.

Another believable story that real gold is nearly gone

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=12482
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 03, 2010, 08:48:56 PM
Looks like mining charts are doing a slow repair job on recent damage. This is better than gaping.  Probably the typical build up until the  op-ex smack down then sit back and relax for a month or two.

You couldn't ask for much more out of a silver miner than what HL is doing still it continues to be suppressed along with the rest of the miners.

I came to the mathematical conclusion yesterday that either 10 years of statistics are about to be changed
dramatically ( 2000-2010) by a dramatically shortening gold cycle ( possible )
Or gold has to get up this month to 1300 by month end or get up and stay up ; or whatever it takes to get
the monthly slow stochs back at about 80% from their august 3 days old low
( The montly fluctuates till the month is closed and the first few days brought the monthly down dramatically  )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 03, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
@ dharmeye
what are doc's cycle charts saying ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 04, 2010, 06:49:51 AM
The short cycle keeps getting shorter and the long cycle keeps getting longer
very strange development

Pressure cookers act like that. Shorter pauses between longer vents of course unless you turn the heat down.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on August 04, 2010, 01:25:47 PM
@ dharmeye
what are doc's cycle charts saying ?

The 4 month cycle upturn seems to be under
way. Short term indicators are on the buy side and intermediate indicators following are now on the
cusp of confirming. They will need to get through resistance in the 1200-1210 area, otherwise the up
phase would stay sideways. That would be bearish in the bigger picture. If they get through, then a
retest of the high would be likely. The 10-12 month and 15 month cycle indicators are on the cusp of
buy signals. It’s important that they trigger.

Subscribe to the Wall Street Examiner.   http://wallstreetexaminer.com/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 05, 2010, 01:15:15 AM
Big picture August is Month 9 of 12 with november 2010 as a possible year peak
but the just started august month signal is sell , but without meaning till august is over
This month we have to go to 1300 or consolidate higher then 1200 to
turn the signal to "hold"

I work in nominal 107 days 7 days a week cycles
today 46 of 107 and the up part of the cycle is started
( Also due to the fact the previous cycles were short this should be longer )

Short term is now 18 days and we are in the up part nearly overbought
which with the bad price performance bodes ill . I think the next 18 days down
part may give a double bottom at 1061$ or thereabouts

I sold my remaining HMY this morning and half my remaining Drooy
Will sell the rest of Drooy this afternoon

I am battling with Symantec Service Network taking 2 giga ram cycling on and off
Sometimes a reboot will give me a few hours of quiet . It seems to be writing db files which takes 2 giga ram starting from NIS 17.0.0.136 NCW
I have tried 3 registry cleaners and switching off loads of XP services but still no dice
Next I will probably switch of DCOM ( saw in the logs a lot of DCOM problems )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 05, 2010, 06:36:49 AM
I'm using Avira Premium Suite, no worries. (http://www.avira.com/en/solutions/home_home_office.html)

Have you tried removing Symantec and reloading it? Do it with your web connection unplugged.

Mineset has a few articles and charts about the latest setup in mining sector cycles.

NGD getting a nice pop today.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 05, 2010, 05:26:56 PM
http://www.symantec.com/norton/support/kb/web_view.jsp?wv_type=public_web&docurl=20080710133834EN
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 06, 2010, 12:10:45 AM
Thank you whadda
I needed that link to get my product key
For the moment everything is working fine again after a dozen registry cleans and reboots

My problem is somewhere in windows XP : I have been deactivating shell expansions for weeks now
My original problem started with XP freezing if I try to change file names ; also XP refuses to update nothwithstanding WGA is legal and activated

I better start making ghost images on a removable disk . Bill Gates may have pledged to give away half of his billions to charity after his death , but in live I am glad it was a Belgian who threw a pie in his face over here .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 06, 2010, 12:30:45 AM
Gold weekly has definitely turned up

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 06, 2010, 12:33:30 AM
But daily is already overbought

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 06, 2010, 06:53:25 AM
Windows (files) gets corrupt over time and there is nothing you can really do about it except reload it on a blank (reformatted)  hard drive but then you have to reload all your programs too and that could take time. Win7 is becoming mature but doesn't support a lot of older programs yet if ever (like Kitco quotes). Leave it to me to get the blue screen of death on Win7 when I was loading some drivers for a old sound card. XP drive is still primary and Win7 drive backup and storage.

Always backup you important files to flash drive, DVD, CD, another drive, web, whatever.

Playing some miners to take profits. Don't know how much of a pull back is expected but one is due in the short term.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 07, 2010, 01:32:31 AM
Windows (files) gets corrupt over time and there is nothing you can really do about it except reload it on a blank (reformatted)  hard drive but then you have to reload all your programs too and that could take time. Win7 is becoming mature but doesn't support a lot of older programs yet if ever (like Kitco quotes). Leave it to me to get the blue screen of death on Win7 when I was loading some drivers for a old sound card. XP drive is still primary and Win7 drive backup and storage.

Always backup you important files to flash drive, DVD, CD, another drive, web, whatever.

Playing some miners to take profits. Don't know how much of a pull back is expected but one is due in the short term.

I have up to date Norton Ghost files on a hard disk I take away to my bedroom :D
I probably will stay with XP in this lifetime

I spread the word of my trouble on the Norton Forum and a Senior NIS developer asked me to be allowed to help  :o
They don't seem to like customers going to Mc Afee  ;D

I have used NIS ( 2 troyans in C system recovery) Adaware ( Troyan and virus in D system recovery ) 3 Registry scanners turning up 20 problems with Norton but set to ignore and I cannot find how to unignore them . Right now running Spybot search and Destroy after I finished with CCleaner . Running process explorer telling me the last reboot still holds. Will have to find out about Process Monitor why Norton db files are using 2 gigabyte RAM

I made a bundle on miners and lost more on physical in Euro
Sold all Drooy and HMY and now am evaluating when to reduce uncle Jim Tanzanian
which is at 80% Slow stoch month and week and dayly
Consider buying Lake Shore or Kirkland
Kirland has very good technical pic but reading their site they are guys standing around a hole in the ground . Hope old Jinshan comes down
So I got 3 kind of miners
TNX.to ready to sell
Yamana, GBG,MFL,NGD nice
K.to;NG; Oceana in limbo
12.5% cash
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 07, 2010, 01:54:46 AM
The greatest bull we will ever see

http://www.resourceinvestor.com/News/2010/8/Pages/Ready-for-the-Greatest-Bull-Market-Any-of-Us-Will-Ever-See.aspx
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 07, 2010, 02:17:03 AM
With an 88% correlation the cycle is now 125 days
I think I love it
Because now Wealtlab and myself are saying the yearly high is the firstweek of november

Go gold go

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 07, 2010, 02:37:36 AM
my weekly low is in on the 107 day cycle wich is now like 125 days

(http://a.imageshack.us/img651/3433/7augday.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 08, 2010, 12:42:23 AM
The shortest cycle I got is like 17 days for the moment
I am looking to buy in the low of that cycle
12.5% cash at a time like this is inappropriate

My computer problems are getting worse but lo and behold on monday a chief
programmer for Symantec is going to look at my problems
If he does not I go to a computer geek forum who will love to tell me why I am crazy
to use Norton  ???

My needs are simple : exclusion of cracks and patches from virus scans
and blocking all outgoing communications I have not allowed expressly
adaware free let me do the first and maybe the second ; I will have to shop around
to find the best Antivirus cum firewall suite and I got 78 days before Norton wants more money
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 08, 2010, 05:15:15 PM
The Premuim  (http://www.avira.com/en/support/support_personal.html) (if you get it) has 30 or 90 day free trial. You have to train any virus/firewall program. Hardly notice this program running in the background. Sometimes it won't let me go to some websites and blocks me out unless I beg it to let me in. It will ask you every time if some programs is trying to call home and if you want to allow it.
Cracks and patches need to go into a separate folder so you can exclude it from scans. I just let them get dumped into quarantine and restore them if I need them or just hit the ignore button if a scan picks them up while I need them running.

Things change so I wouldn't make a long term commitment to any one scanning program.

Peer Guardian 2 is free and you can manually add addresses you want blocked. Pre-loaded and updated lists lists block unwanted peer to peer connections and other nosy busy bodies.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 09, 2010, 12:01:11 AM
Thanks
I do not mind how much money I spend on a good ,working firewall and antivirus

I got Norton Internet Security 2010 fully paid and it is using 2 giga ram after one of those updates of god knows what program
I got Norton System Doctor ( trouble shooting ) and Norton Ghost 9 ( image back up of the entire computer daily )

I got free Spybot Search and Destroy with free Shield that protects all Registry Changes
I got free Adaware with shield turned off because it will fight Norton but I use it to scan adware once a week .

I am now going to surf the web to find what geeks think is the best primary firewall cum antivirus

A major programmer with Norton was intrested in my complaints but he went on weekend till probably 3 pm my time today

I hate computers and I hate firms that sell shitty programs
Like we used to say at my first american firm I worked for " Why is it there is never time to do it right but allways time to do it allover again "
Nowadays people could ask BP . ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 09, 2010, 12:53:09 AM
OK
I read a dozen antivirus reviews and if you look at the price
Bitdefender is the winner most of the time
If you do not look at the price Kaspersky and Norton 2010 are runner ups

So I guess I will try a major geek forum to trouble shoot before going to Bitdefender or Kaspersky

http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/v2/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 09, 2010, 02:11:56 AM
OK
Short term top is in ( 18 day cycle )
8 more days down in HUI
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Humpybong on August 09, 2010, 09:29:03 AM

I use "Zone Alarm Extreme Security" for my anti-virus and firewall.

Have had no problems to date and think it is a great product
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 09, 2010, 08:52:19 PM
I found the problem
It was a shield I installed in Mozilla Firefox from Spybot Search and Destroy
Under several circumstances like backing up the computer or running two live programs Norton NIS 2010 got excited in using 2 giga ram even after reboot
I took the shield off line and after half an hour the problem disappeared
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 09, 2010, 08:59:54 PM
Jesse's cafe americain has a new moderator
Strange since it is a non posting blog  ;D

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/SEwBGOJLe2I/AAAAAAAACcE/SLakO-vZsnM/S1600-R/lewaitress.jpg)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 10, 2010, 09:16:37 PM
FED thinks 2 Trillion will solve a 500 Trillion problem

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601010&sid=a_5TQs4m6ylA
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 10, 2010, 09:18:31 PM
In unrelated news several goldminers are breaking out from triangles
yesterday GBG started its outbreak

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 12, 2010, 10:02:11 PM
I got my last set of LMU 20 francs coins ( quality going down most MS but a few
rubbed with an handkerchief )
My buying programs are terminated since I expect we go exponential very soon now

I think from nov - dec on I will start selling at 20% over todays euro prices
Very slowly and the heavy and junk first
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 13, 2010, 02:27:39 AM
OK I gave up and bought a starter position in Lake Shore Gold
Walked away from me and too expensive but what the heck  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 13, 2010, 11:51:58 AM
I think the setup is for a quick slam next week then the miners take off. US Gov is trying to put off any regular market crash by pumping money in. It might work for the time being as markets maintain these levels or creep up a bit but the reality is that it's the beginning of real inflation and most companies will have a difficult time keeping the bottom line tracking at the same pace as inflation in the future.

AAU is enjoying a nice spike on striking rich dirt.

Selling before December sounds like a good plan only to get back in early January. I think Armstrong's target in July is more realistic than Sinclair's target.

Pretty happy with NG and NGD so far but I got in early.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 13, 2010, 09:01:45 PM
There is a definite rotation taking place

I was happy with Anglogold, Harmony, Drooy, Kinross
I sold nearly all of the first three and a quarter of Kinross
all at good prices in the recent past

My second set is now my favourite set
Yamana, Tanzanian, Minefinders, Great Basin Gold

My Third set are my future hopefulls
Oceana , New Gold, Nova Gold, Lake Shore

I think HUI makes its lows next week ( golds lows are over )
I work on the asumption of a november high confirmation subject to slow stochs and bollinger bands on weekly charts and some other stuff like momentum and RSI
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 13, 2010, 10:26:49 PM
Yeah, the lows are in since BV doesn't post his charts. Clear air above until he starts counting waves.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 13, 2010, 11:48:55 PM
A november high looks seasonally possible
I favour 1350 $

http://www.zealllc.com/2010/huiseas3.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 13, 2010, 11:51:21 PM
(http://www.investmenttools.com/images/df/p&f/gold.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 16, 2010, 05:36:12 AM
It looks like the gold bottom is in according to the weekly chart

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 16, 2010, 05:39:38 AM
The same is true for the weekly HUI
This is the first time in my life we go up with me having 10% cash in the portfolio

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 16, 2010, 06:15:33 AM
Not only is the bottom in, it has been running for almost a  month already. Miners still cheap even with spot at these levels. Add on any pullbacks.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 16, 2010, 09:05:16 AM
I got my eye on some more miners
But if they are worth anything they are going to shoot up into november high or even later
without much dips to buy
So I will just costaverage upwards instead of downwards ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 16, 2010, 05:28:44 PM
I got my eye on some more miners
But if they are worth anything they are going to shoot up into november high or even later
without much dips to buy
So I will just costaverage upwards instead of downwards ???
Well yeah, probably won't return to the recent low lows but there is always dips along the way and some are still not far off their recent lows, relatively speaking (definitely have more room to run up than to crash down, Ha Ha)

Note the gainers, like today, and see that not all are equal in the mining industry this time around. Looks like only the strong survive with the occasional long shot taking off.

I still like Rainy River as a buy and hold at $6 already and practicably an unknown.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 16, 2010, 09:11:59 PM
I got my eye on some more miners
But if they are worth anything they are going to shoot up into november high or even later
without much dips to buy
So I will just costaverage upwards instead of downwards ???
Well yeah, probably won't return to the recent low lows but there is always dips along the way and some are still not far off their recent lows, relatively speaking (definitely have more room to run up than to crash down, Ha Ha)

Note the gainers, like today, and see that not all are equal in the mining industry this time around. Looks like only the strong survive with the occasional long shot taking off.

I still like Rainy River as a buy and hold at $6 already and practicably an unknown.

I have started to get into Lake Shore Gold,  ( eying Osisko but overbought in all timeframes ; may nibble at ema65 : Orvana Minerals same story ; Aura Minerals is in a big triangle but not listed as a goldminer on kitco ; Kirkland Lake good stochs but they seem to be doing nothing but talking ? ; Recently renamed China Gold they intrest me ;
I don't know what is wrong with Brigus gold but oversold in all time frames ; I dropped anatolia from my list since Turkey is in the middle geographically of a Israel Iran conflict

Seems my sleeper Great Basin Gold brook out of a second triangle now 2.01$ close

I read on the forums that the bottom to bottom 15 week cycle counters still expect a low in the rest of August . I think seven was right in saying to count top to top
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 16, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
I made nr 4 on the best performers of the day list
I get regularly one stock in the top 5 now

http://www.kitco.com/stocks/changepercentage_desc.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 17, 2010, 06:52:38 AM
I have some Sabina, Silvercrest, GSS, OKOFF, Yukon-Nevada and Golden Hawk. All in the black but none in a very large position. My portfolio anchor tenants are NG  NGD and a bit of RGLD. I held GBG through all this and lightened up on CGC. I have others like TGB and HL just to cover all the bases.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 04:02:31 AM
I have some Sabina, Silvercrest, GSS, OKOFF, Yukon-Nevada and Golden Hawk. All in the black but none in a very large position. My portfolio anchor tenants are NG  NGD and a bit of RGLD. I held GBG through all this and lightened up on CGC. I have others like TGB and HL just to cover all the bases.

On request of a german forum I did some analyses for Hecla
It is poised for a bigish move , but I think down

HUI is allready oversold today but that is a condition that can endure time
Barevest calls it embedded slow stoch but every textbook technical analyst knows
that in a strong move the time for oscillators is over ( they stay maxed out )
RSI14 may give some help for the time being
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 04:27:54 AM
The Aden sisters

Quote
Considering that the U.S. is issuing new debt this year that's nearly equal to the rest of the world combined, the picture remains pretty dismal. So we need to be prepared for what's to come.

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/aden081610.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 04:40:54 AM
Looking at how the price of gold is shooting up ; my 15 weeks cycle seems to be a lot better then all those followers of the second half of August low  :D

Of course like seven of eleven explained ; in an upwards market you count from high
to high and never from low to low ( because in a good action the low HAS to be left translated of the mid point )
I fear 1350 gold is coming and I still got 10% cash duh
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 05:39:26 AM
I think the pure deflationists are going to lose

Quote
Wal-Mart Quietly Raises Prices
By JONATHAN BERR Posted 11:30 AM 08/10/10

Wal-Mart Stores (WMT), which for years has touted its prowess at lowering prices, has been doing the opposite as it tries to bolster its bottom line amid stagnating sales.

A JPMorgan Chase (JPM) study of a Walmart Supercenter in Virginia found that the world’s largest retailer has raised prices by nearly 6% on average over the past six weeks, according to the New York Post. Reuters says it was the biggest sequential increase since JPMorgan started the study in January 2009.

Some Prices Hiked Over 60%
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 18, 2010, 05:59:41 AM
PYW: I was reading that in your neck of the woods, that professional hunters (are they allowed to have guns or do they wrestle animals into submission?) are required to have wild boar kills tested for radioactive fallout (from Chernobyl) to meet guidelines for safe consumption since the animals dine on forest fungus, like mushrooms, that are the first in the food chain to absorb the fallout. Do you use a Geiger counter before you eat?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 06:04:06 AM
PYW: I was reading that in your neck of the woods, that professional hunters (are they allowed to have guns or do they wrestle animals into submission?) are required to have wild boar kills tested for radioactive fallout (from Chernobyl) to meet guidelines for safe consumption since the animals dine on forest fungus, like mushrooms, that are the first in the food chain to absorb the fallout. Do you use a Geiger counter before you eat?

If you mean park, forest, game wardens they are allowed a shot gun
Amateur hunters need a license and to prove they can use a shotgun by going to class
I already glow in the dark , why would I use a geiger counter ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 18, 2010, 06:22:09 AM
Well those infamous manipulators tried to pond spot early on and it didn't work so well this time around.

If you are buying and holding then it really doesn't matter when you get in a bull market but trading is something else.

HL produces their silver for free or better when they include waste mineral sales but SLW is the crowd favorite. Kinda like TRE.

Deflation will win in the end because you must go through corrections eventually but as long as there is a printing press available........

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 18, 2010, 06:34:48 AM
PYW: I was reading that in your neck of the woods, that professional hunters (are they allowed to have guns or do they wrestle animals into submission?) are required to have wild boar kills tested for radioactive fallout (from Chernobyl) to meet guidelines for safe consumption since the animals dine on forest fungus, like mushrooms, that are the first in the food chain to absorb the fallout. Do you use a Geiger counter before you eat?

If you mean park, forest, game wardens they are allowed a shot gun
Amateur hunters need a license and to prove they can use a shotgun by going to class
I already glow in the dark , why would I use a geiger counter ?
I guess you save a lot on flashlight batteries.
Does your military get to use guns or do they practice inductive reasoning during conflicts? Here in the States, Obama is upset the military trains in the use of guns then releases the soldiers back into the civilian life with such knowledge. He hasn't figure a way around that training yet while being rightfully worried in the meantime about an armed militia.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 18, 2010, 06:54:56 AM
The 2010 Lincoln cent has a metallic content of 2.5 percent copper, with the balance being zinc.

Deflation or inflation?
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 08:10:46 AM
It seems uncle Jim is going to be right with his billions in law suites for the banks

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ar4QIb1re46U&pos=6
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 08:14:30 AM
My oh my BO still has not understood

In my youth every Belgian had to do compulsory 12 month of army training
I was in the paymasters office and learned to shoot a FAL (marksman score)
a light shitty machine gun ( the vigneron ) and throwing handgrenades and shooting
pantsers with a modified antitank piece you mounted on the FAL

Now I have to proof I am over 18 to get a compressed air gun (one shot )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 18, 2010, 08:35:32 AM
It seems so simple
bottom in three weeks ago on minimal RSI and volume blow off
We are in day 59 now of what nominally is 107 days but should be a few weeks longer
Untill further notice I aim for a november (or october) high

(http://www.kitco.com/ind/Wyckoff/images/gold2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 18, 2010, 09:53:57 AM
Should get a pullback here somewhere soon so PYW can spend the money burning a hole in his pocket (or is it going cold) but being a bull leg up it could only be an intraday pullback.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 19, 2010, 12:28:21 AM
Yes this bronco ride seems only willing to give 10$ in closing prices

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 19, 2010, 04:08:02 AM
Lake Shore Gold down 6% so I doubled up today
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 19, 2010, 05:53:22 AM
Yes this bronco ride seems only willing to give 10$ in closing prices



You mean the capping attempts by manipulators is in $10 increments. More like $5 steps. Either way they are both failing.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 19, 2010, 05:57:58 AM
Radioactive boars on the rise in Germany (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_radioactive_boars)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 19, 2010, 09:10:54 AM
Radioactive boars on the rise in Germany (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_radioactive_boars)

You remember the swine flu or mex flu ? They are again trying to divert the attention from
the real problems
In England pakistani brought a new superbacteria into the country that eats penicillum , several died allready in hospital . One already died in Belgium .
About 75% of our chickens are dangerous to eat if you do not cook them hot enough
etc etc
In unrelated news our 7 political parties are trying to make a 7 party coalition
The problem is that the walloons cannot live without the flemish money ; so after 6 weeks of negotiations they now agreed nobody should get poorer if the 7 parties form a government ( I wonder how they are going to accomplish that miracle )
So they continue talks on the basis nobody is going to lose  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 19, 2010, 10:21:18 AM
Radioactive boars on the rise in Germany (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_radioactive_boars)
So they continue talks on the basis nobody is going to lose  :D
Only Israel can do that.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 20, 2010, 08:44:01 AM
Look
Somebody put diamonds in a ten dollar coin
Sold for spot

(http://www.goldseiten-forum.de/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=52532&h=ef9819b5d88ec7b7225d900376819be843e6b037)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on August 20, 2010, 10:01:29 AM
There will be a bunch more fake flu viruses in the upcoming months. It is all a con job and I got that first hand from a medical researcher. Don't take ANYTHING you haven't taken in years past!!! Thats my advice to all of you!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 20, 2010, 06:08:29 PM
There will be a bunch more fake flu viruses in the upcoming months. It is all a con job and I got that first hand from a medical researcher. Don't take ANYTHING you haven't taken in years past!!! Thats my advice to all of you!

I'll agree with that. You can't make any money off a bunch of healthy people when you are in the drug business.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 22, 2010, 12:25:12 AM
After extensively reviewing charts I changed my prognosis to
1450-1650 $ per ounce either in november 2010 or six months later
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 22, 2010, 12:44:44 AM
Thank god I got oceana
only New gold and Lake shore did also better then HUI since the bottom in 2008
Novagold  not so hot ; anglogold restposition and Kinross definitively going out

(http://a.imageshack.us/img651/6096/hui2.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 22, 2010, 09:19:30 PM
They used to call it off market now they call it dark pool , how sinister

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aj.vPHz_KQxE&pos=6
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 23, 2010, 05:39:21 AM
PYW: Have you read Armstrong's latest? He likes the FSE in the long run. His work is becoming clearer as markets set themselves up. He looks for market highs towards 2016 after this near term correction plays out as a move from government debt to corporate debt comes into vogue.
I'm think'in somewhere between now and then gold should correct 30% after a nice run up. Usually takes a 1 1/2 to 2 years to correct when that happens.
It's a long bull market in miners. US housing probably won't recover until 2025 and pricing due to inflation doesn't count.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 23, 2010, 05:55:10 AM
I am counting on gold going up 50% now
The 30% correction will come later
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 24, 2010, 05:42:50 AM
With expiration on us on thursday Golden Sac should have been more discrete with what they say
Gold went virtical

Quote
Gold and silver spot prices went straight up in a 'flight to quality' on the news from Goldman Sachs that the Fed will have to engage in substantial quantative easing. This analysis received a boost by a much worse than expected existing home sales number, with 3.83 million units sold versus 4.72 million expected.
 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 24, 2010, 05:44:41 AM
Amazing Grace! How sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.

(http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/clip_image001_thumb3.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 25, 2010, 05:35:31 AM
Looks like the big boys flipped and went long. There was really no option (so to speak).
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 25, 2010, 05:58:55 AM
Looks like the big boys flipped and went long. There was really no option (so to speak).

I am not sure the real bad boys are long , they probably are in firefighting mode but losing to
the banks that are long
Tomorrow is going to be an interesting expiration day .

My best performer for the day is New Gold sofar . I still got money to buy a few more shares  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 25, 2010, 07:08:44 AM
Ya did good on NGD to pick some up when it took a tumble.

That's why I'm only 20% in long shots while the balance is mainly producers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 25, 2010, 09:34:28 PM
Ya did good on NGD to pick some up when it took a tumble.

That's why I'm only 20% in long shots while the balance is mainly producers.

I wonder whether they will cap at 1240 $ today

What are your long shots ? Last I had was GBG now taking of
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 26, 2010, 02:05:40 AM
Made my last programmed buy of Lake shore gold
will keep the 6% cash for emergencies
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 26, 2010, 05:48:39 AM
My successful long shots so far are...Silvercrest Mines Inc., Sabina Gold & Silver, Orko Silver Corp., Yukon-Nevada Gold  Corp. I have Pacific Gold Corp. that hasn't gone anywhere and recently added Rainy River to the list. Some are exploratory, some are about to enter production and all have some kind of known reserves of varying amounts already on the books. Most are interconnected with other producers, as in partnered.

NG I consider a long shot because it isn't producing. GBG has to be moved over to the producers now. CGC, I have some but is probably a takeover candidate since it is constantly beat up on and Campbell Resources Inc. has been going backwards since I bought some.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 26, 2010, 09:32:20 AM
They kept it below 1240

My best shots for the moment are GBG, LSG and TNX
I dropped the last share of Anglogold today ; so for the first time in 40 years I got no SA shares  ::)

I am planning to get out of K and NG next

http://top40goldstocks.com/top-40-index.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 26, 2010, 04:48:18 PM
With crowd mentality you would probably have better luck trading SLW.

NG I would trade but not clear the deck of it. That one has the most potential of them all.

I'm looking for a run up in gold but not as high as one might expect at least not this year. Trading the highs will be even more important when they arrive.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 26, 2010, 08:16:49 PM
With crowd mentality you would probably have better luck trading SLW.

NG I would trade but not clear deck of it. That one has the most potential of them all.

I'm looking for a run up in gold but not as high as one might expect at least not this year. Trading the highs will be even more important when they arrive.

The next high probably is not a major high ; RSI 50 and MOM week will tell together with distance from moving averages . . Slow stochs monthly will only tell WHEN .
I have 5 oct 2010 as end of 107 days cycle and 22 oct 2010 as end of three 107 cycles and nov 2010 as end of the 11 months cycle . ( All three reset on the same high)
So I am inclined to pick the first week of november as the yearly high or an extension of 6 months making it a major hight like 1650$

I am eying Orvana and China gold now and decided to trade Minefinders (not hold as major hold any more ) What do you think of Yamana ? Seems to track Kinross pretty much
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 27, 2010, 05:39:20 AM
AUY and KGC are dividend payers so their price movement is constrained. I'd take AUY over KGC. KGC is buying and selling a bit much and tells me management is not stable. Of course, all miners go up in a bull. Some just faster than others. That's why an index fund of miners doesn't hurt if you put a stop in for the end of the run.

GBG has an operation in SA, it's hard to get completely out of SA.


Took profits on NG and NGD. Remember I'm working the tax angle here in the US.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 28, 2010, 12:07:01 AM
AUY and KGC are dividend payers so their price movement is constrained. I'd take AUY over KGC. KGC is buying and selling a bit much and tells me management is not stable. Of course, all miners go up in a bull. Some just faster than others. That's why an index fund of miners doesn't hurt if you put a stop in for the end of the run.

GBG has an operation in SA, it's hard to get completely out of SA.

Took profits on NG and NGD. Remember I'm working the tax angle here in the US.

Still no capital tax here in Belgium though the Germans got it by now
KGC has become too big for its own good , interest that arrives after all taxes and bankcosts is a few dollars only . ( I got into K because I had Echo Bay duh )
I know GBG has a mine in SA

I think the train is leaving the station and I will not be selling anything before I think the 2010 high is close or in . oct-nov

I got a MBA in investment and I am not about to pay 1-2% cost per year and 1.5% starting cost and 1.5% exit cost on top of 1% stock market cost and 3% euro to dollar exchange cost for a fucking fund manager's Lamborghini or Porsche.
I got a BMW 320 coupe thank you very much  :D  and I made 12.5% this year sofar

Besides from 7 stocks on you are 90% tracking the index . So with the 9 stock I have I made a tracker index myself  ;D for free  ;D Well I pay myself 2% management cost but my wife does not know  :D and she is still happy buying clothes every month  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 28, 2010, 05:48:08 AM
Your management fees are outrageous.

Looking for a quick pullback before the return of traders after the summer vacation ends. I've come to rely on the swings to make a couple of extra bucks or add shares.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 28, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
Funds available in Belgium normally have 1 to 1.5 % management fees per year and 3 % to get in and out so you have to count 4% the first year
10 years back I had a innovative small companies portfolio for a few years and after three years I broke even and quit funds ( forever )
Due to my Euro 's I still got a 3% roundtrip cost but no management cost and no deposit cost

I have been quite successful of late in selling shares at their exact high but still am buying back too soon . I have used the opportunities to get out of shares and get into "better" shares . My main trade success is in Minefinders and New Gold every 3-4 months
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on August 29, 2010, 01:52:02 PM
New Canadian ETF in town - ZJG.to
http://www.etfs.bmo.com/bmo-etfs/holdings?fundId=75750
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 29, 2010, 10:03:58 PM
New Canadian ETF in town - ZJG.to
http://www.etfs.bmo.com/bmo-etfs/holdings?fundId=75750

Thanks I was yesterday looking at Aurizon and Alamos , this explains why alamos is so expensive
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 30, 2010, 05:23:58 AM
My latest
Jean II being Jean Lebon on the first french Franc


(http://a.imageshack.us/img837/1790/francachevalk2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on August 30, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
Another fine piece of golden art Paint Your Wagon. Isn't it amazing what a little gold can do for art! I appreciate your photos so keep them coming.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 31, 2010, 04:45:55 AM
Like I said a few weeks ago
The candle for the month of August needs to be high in order
to keep the monthly stochs where they should be
Tomorrows charts will show whether we made it ; but I think we will
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 31, 2010, 10:43:13 PM
Looks like gold is launched for its all time high for the year

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 01, 2010, 08:28:54 AM
Looks like the friends of gold did some chart painting of their own yesterday.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 01, 2010, 09:29:36 PM
Looks like the friends of gold did some chart painting of their own yesterday.

Yes but whilst the banksters are sleeping europe is attacking 1250 again this morning
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 03, 2010, 05:33:37 AM
Conform my master plan I sold 1/3 Kinross at the 200 ema line
I have now 8% cash for a possible dip next week
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 03, 2010, 05:44:19 AM
I'm overweight HL now.

My miners in a steady climb. No panic, no rush. Smack downs quickly bought into and raised back up.

I don't see where a correction is needed, nothing to correct from.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 03, 2010, 05:48:44 AM
I'm overweight HL now.

My miners in a steady climb. No panic, no rush. Smack downs quickly bought into and raised back up.

I don't see where a correction is needed, nothing to correct from.

All miners Slow Stoch 6.3.3 dayly are (were) above 80 % and most are working it off by a sideways movement . China gold is allready back to 25% in 4 days . So next week is a good purchasing period for the short term and in view of my cycles for the long term .

This week Tanzanian broke upwards in a 9% day and today Oceana is doing a break upwards . The train is leaving and I do not want to sit in the slow version like K.to
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 03, 2010, 05:52:57 AM
The slow stoch on HUI shows the correction from overbought
The miners themselves are from 80 to 25% depending their own internal dynamics

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 03, 2010, 05:55:55 AM
Kinross just dipped under 80% today at the point of my sale of K

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 03, 2010, 07:34:16 AM
That's the problem with lagging indicators as they can stay high for a month while you wait for them to come back down. Gold and silver readying for a break out to new highs with nothing but clear air above.

US$ breaking down will finally cause the bond market to lose it. Somewhere around 79 should do it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2010, 12:32:58 AM
That's the problem with lagging indicators as they can stay high for a month while you wait for them to come back down. Gold and silver readying for a break out to new highs with nothing but clear air above.

US$ breaking down will finally cause the bond market to lose it. Somewhere around 79 should do it.

They are NOT indicators they ARE oscilators
Subject to confirmation by RSI which is LEADING or COINCIDENT
Bollinger Bands will tell you where you are too and Master Momentum will tell you the sustainability

For the moment Tanzanian , Oceana, and Great Basin Gold cannot be tracked anymore by the slow stochs wich are maxed out but weekly RSI and Bollinger Bands give a good idea where I am

Kinross has bad ema readings and the slow stochs still work ;eg going from above 80% below 80% is a sell signal

Have you noticed all good miners are at or above their 10 day ema ? ( and of course a ema 65 going up and above an ema 200 going up )

Anyway top is oct-nov or 6 months later and a low slow stoch next week may be the last boarding the train op.

3 out of 9 of my miners have now gone ballistic and K is the worst of the lot
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 04, 2010, 03:58:39 AM
 ... You like potato and I like potahto, You like tomato and I like tomahto ...

As far as I'm concerned, they are all lagging because technical analysis can't predict. Even a trend is dependent on what happen 2 seconds ago. It's all a percentage play. The bottom could fall out at any time or a rocket launch could occur. One thing it won't do is stay static.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2010, 04:15:05 AM
I have been converted forever to cycles by Seven of Eleven
A cycle very rarely stops ; that is like a snowstorm in july  with freezing temperatures
in Florida . It could happen but .............

I expect to buy whatever corrects to the 200 ema with the 65 ema still moving up
If I remember correctly you sold NGD and NG more then a week ago to get liquid
I am sitting out TNX,OCG,GBG ( up very much but I stay put)  but K definitely has irked me
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 04, 2010, 07:17:25 PM
True, I sold for profits but usually closer to 100% in than 80% in. Finally unloaded most of the mutual funds and loaded up on HL. Added to NGD NG GSS. Trying some long shot NWI.to. Even though I have a starter position in Rainy River, I'm impressed. Still kicking myself for sitting and watching AAU.

I want to sell the highs whenever they come in. Wash rinse repeat.

Norcini worth a listen via JSMineset.

[Local cats must be playing with a skunk, stinks outside]
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2010, 11:17:18 PM
My strategy and trading is getting better by the cycle. This is necessary since for 5 years I have sometimes to the week predicted the high only to benefit 2-3% on my total investment
I have finally found the courage to kick out AU, HMY, Drooy completely and K is going

For the moment I have 8 full positions and a half K position

How many positions you are handling ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2010, 11:32:09 PM
This is the first time in 10 years I get a strange monthly slow stoch
1 We have finished a first cycle
2 We have a fakeout
3 We will go 18 candles this cycles

Whatever , I am ready

(http://a.imageshack.us/img687/5264/5910.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2010, 11:38:27 PM
weekly chart progressing conform to a oct-nov 107 days high

(http://a.imageshack.us/img843/9808/5910w.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2010, 11:47:02 PM
Daily stays above 80
might come down or not
I want to stay as close to 100% invested as practical

(http://a.imageshack.us/img814/8956/5910d.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 05, 2010, 06:07:17 AM
Charts are toppy, trying to ignore them. This time of year breakouts should/can occur before pullbacks.

Have around 30 stocks between two trading accounts. 10 I consider cores, rest are just long shots in waiting. More dollars in cores but more shares in long shots.

The first ones to unload will be CGC GBG GSS Minco Gold, then HL. Have some strange ones like Baja Mining but that is a rare earth play that I sit on. Still have some BAA and Caledonia and Campbell Resources even some GGN free shares. Light in RGLD. And like I said Rainy River recently, Sabina doing okay but not a large position. Franco Nevada leftovers.....I could easily whittle it down to 15 or 20 stocks to hold but long shots are long shots.

Some stocks are interchangeable like SLW TRE Chesapeake Gold could be held in place of others because they all go up in a bull and makes it more worth trading them than holding them.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 05, 2010, 06:34:24 AM
The CEO of Rainy River was the past CEO of WGW (NGD acquired). I was reading a WGW mailer yearly report were he had purchased a simulator and 2 programs for a million bucks. The programs mimicked CAT track hoes and those over sized Tonka toy dump trucks. Operators could refine their loading, driving skills and techniques to become more efficient in the simulator without beating up the machinery in the process or learn on the job. He also bought diesel fuel futures when oil was around $30 a barrel. He had to hedge some gold forward for working capital but not enough to jeopardize the company.

Just good management.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 05, 2010, 06:59:00 AM
My first date is 5 oct then 20 oct then first week of november ( all on gold)
From now on I watch MOM 39 days and Bollinger bands and most importantly
those stocks that hit ema65days plus 25% ( all those give trading sell signals)

I plan to get 20-25% cash at what I think is the right time.

In the meantime I vacillate to buy a starter position this week in China gold or Aurizon Mines both based on falling daily slow stochs going to oversold
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 05, 2010, 07:01:15 AM
People are so funny or maybe just have to much time on their hands. Responses from a post elsewhere to the on going arguments for and against gold esp. you can't eat it.


1. Gold Brick Chicken

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Long Island’s Blackstone Steakhouse wins novelty points for integrating gold leaf into a chicken and mashed potatoes dish. They roast half a chicken in a brick oven, puree sweet potatoes, and add 24K gold leaf to finish the dish off.

2. Goldschlaeger

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A longtime college party favorite, this Italian cinnamon schnapps is famous for containing small flakes of gold. The volume of gold—less than 0.1 grams per 750 ml bottle—pales in comparison to the volume of alcohol, which is 40%.

3. Gold Leaf Sushi Roll

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Image: What’s Cooking America

Sushi Roku in Las Vegas’ Caesars Palace offers one of the most indulgent sushi rolls on the planet. Appropriately dubbed the High Roll-er, this hedonistic masterpiece contains Kobe beef, lobster, and black truffles, finished off with 24-carat gold leaf.

4. White Truffle Bagel

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Image: Hotel Chatter

If you have $1,000 to kill, and a craving for bagel, why not drop into the New York Westin for chef Frank Tujague’s one-grand bagel sandwich? Slathered with white truffle cream cheese and a special Riesling, goji berry, and gold-leaf jelly, the bagel’s proceeds go towards culinary school scholarship money.

5. The Golden Opulence Sundae

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New York’s Serendipity http://www.serendipity3.com/main.htm sells the Golden Opulence Sundae, a chocolate sundae covered in 23-karat gold leaf, suffused with gold dragets, and served with an 18-karat gold spoon that diners can keep. The price? A record-breaking $1,000.
6. Gold-and-Diamond Chocolate Cake

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Image: Reuters

Manila entrepreneur Angelito Araneta Jr. plans to sell a chocolate cake covered with 24K gold leaves and small diamonds for roughly $2,500 a piece. The cake is marketed towards men intending to propose to their girlfriends. We think you’d be just as well off giving her $20k, the price of an 8 piece cake, on gold credit cards and letting her go on a shopping spree. That will surely win her heart.

7. Gold-Covered Wedding Cake

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A British couple covered their wedding cake in edible gold leaf. Unlike some of the other treats on this list, however, the gold-covered wedding cake was relatively cheap: It only set them back 50 pounds.

8. Gold-Infused Champagne

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Abu Dhabi’s Emirates Palace offers a 24K-gold-infused rose champagne. One 3-liter bottle costs $2,995.

9. Gold-Sprinkled Capuccino

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Image: Roy Backstrom/Flickr

The Emirates Palace, creator of the gold-infused champagne mentioned above, also sells a $25 cup of cappuccino topped with 24-karat gold dust sprinkles in place of cinnamon.

10. Caviar

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It isn’t infused with gold, like this imitation caviar , but Almas’ $49,000+ caviar, harvested from a 100-year-old sturgeon in Iran’s section of the Caspian Sea, makes up for the fact with its 24K gold packaging.

For images of the various dishes.....

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gold+foods&FORM=BIFD#focal=d9ac2f3a051df9d9651a69d641478d86&furl=http%3A%2F%2Fcomeauxscajungold.food.officelive.com%2Fimages%2FSANY0106.JPG

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Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 05, 2010, 07:19:10 AM
Allready 40 years back my wife was creazy about Bols companies Goldwasser
It was a sweet 40% alcohol with floating gold leaf in it
And yes you can eat gold

My brother once had a sea aquarium and the fishes needed a solution containing gold because the ocean is the largest gold mine in the whole world
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 05, 2010, 07:30:01 AM
PYW: Since you live in a oppressed state you should be able to appreciate this news article but the comments are better.

Armed woman scares away carjacker at La Marque Walmart (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2582380/posts)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 07, 2010, 05:54:06 AM
Nenner's chart looks like end of November is the bottom of XAU.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 07, 2010, 06:41:13 AM
Nenner's chart looks like end of November is the bottom of XAU.

This would be orfully close to my top of oct or first week of november but anything
is possible

In the meantime GBG gave me another close to 10% today
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 07, 2010, 09:27:27 PM
Nenner's chart looks like end of November is the bottom of XAU.

Do you have a link to the latest chart ? without having to listen to audio ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 10, 2010, 03:04:58 AM
Bought a starter position in ARZ at 6.80 cad
Cash now down to 5%
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2010, 12:31:01 AM
A few more days of (sidewards) correction and then BADABOOM as the nice girl in the film the fifth element says

(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6668/11910.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2010, 12:32:12 AM
BADABOOM

(http://www.millaj.com/pics/tfe6.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2010, 12:45:28 AM
Not long ago they asked us for money for food for Bangladesh
Now they are buying IMF gold ( with the food money ? )

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Business/11-Sep-2010/IMF-to-sell-400m-worth-of-gold-to-BD
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 11, 2010, 05:12:39 AM
BadaBoom now - Resident Evil

(http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/111/1117476/resident-evil-afterlife-20100901015934861-000.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2010, 06:10:53 AM
She called herself Leeloo and BADABOOM . BIG BIG BADABOOM where her first words in English
She was ready to take the plunge
Two years later she played Joan of Arc in full knight harnass

She is Ukrainean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milla_Jovovich


(http://www.racycostumes.com/racycostumesblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/leeloo-costume-500x482.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2010, 06:14:18 AM
It is clear in Resident Evil she learned to slouch  >:(

(http://www.millaj.com/pics/tfe1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 11, 2010, 04:53:26 PM
Looking at last year's time frame this consolidation could go on for quite a bit longer. Manipulators have things under control so far except maybe the lows.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 11, 2010, 04:57:11 PM
Not long ago they asked us for money for food for Bangladesh
Now they are buying IMF gold ( with the food money ? )

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Business/11-Sep-2010/IMF-to-sell-400m-worth-of-gold-to-BD

The IMF automatically awards (developing) national economies for attaining certain thresholds. I guess it doesn't matter how they get there.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2010, 09:30:43 PM
Looking at last year's time frame this consolidation could go on for quite a bit longer. Manipulators have things under control so far except maybe the lows.

Their control will end last day of november or 6 months later
It is very difficult to defeat long wavecycles
Last year they brought it a month foreward in a runaway buying spree : so that data
is not typical .
I proceed with a top between 5 oct and first week of november as basis
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2010, 09:53:42 PM
Hehe
Our Flemish new housemother Kim Clijsters won the tennis game
And the Russian complains she was not given a chance  :D

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aW7DsuaNL7XY
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on September 12, 2010, 01:26:46 AM
Nothing can ruin a career faster than doing a little crying out loud. Nobody likes a spoiled cry baby! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2010, 12:41:20 AM
Now it should happen
Month, week, dayly cycles pointing up

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3595/14sepd.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2010, 12:46:35 AM
with 20/20 vision on the past it was a perfect 50% fibo retracement

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4313/fibo14sep.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2010, 12:59:47 AM
I wish seven was around
This Gann picture is fascinating to say the least
If we can hop the fourth line we are back in business

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6992/gank.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 14, 2010, 05:50:10 AM
Spot might have made a new high but most miners haven't. The whole sector is still off the radar.

Wait and see what Norcini has to say, he's very good short term.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2010, 06:25:21 AM
Spot might have made a new high but most miners haven't. The whole sector is still off the radar.

Wait and see what Norcini has to say, he's very good short term.

I like it off the radar . Gives me time to reposition my miners.
I still believe the years high is coming oct-nov
I am now at 2.5% cash
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 14, 2010, 07:36:38 AM
About thousand dollars left in trading cash for me. Last night I bought at market more HL even though I knew it would gap on open and it did.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
I redid all my mathematical calculations and the high of gold should be october 14 th
With a 50% increase for the move

Since I am crazier then Sinclair I will not tell anybody ; not even myself  ;)
If I am right on one of the two I still would be happy

Can you believe the only miner that went down was the one I last bought
Aurizon  ??? And gold in euro was hardly up  ???

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 15, 2010, 03:43:28 PM
Like I bought a starter positions in NWI.to and it's been full steam ahead-backwards ever since. By the time I get around to some miner it usually already made a move. That's why only 20% of the portfolio is in long shots. Doing fairly well elsewhere among that 20%.

Voters in the US are getting their hopes up with a new breed of Republicans (wannabe conservatives) winning spots on ballots everywhere at all levels to run against a dying breed of Democrats (socialists) but alas some things never change in November even if careers politicians are thrown out because the debt is to great and growing by the minute.

Had 2 $5 options on NG and exercised 1 today just to make the guy who sold it to me cough up shares. Pretty much worked out that I bought options and waited to roll mutual fund money into them for payment. Basically, could have had 100 free shares plus a hundred bucks spending money. I think I'll keep the other one though.

Had a NXG fanasty option....$15 wasted.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 15, 2010, 08:45:54 PM
Belgium has still no government after 3 months of negociations
A 7 party government with the flemish wanting their due since 1830 is an impossibility
In the past the flemish allways caved in but now they are determined not to give 1.2 billion euro to brussels . The walloons threaten to seceed ; promisses ,promisses . They would secede and give flanders all the stateowned debt , as if now we are not paying all the state owned debt of belgium as it is

I feel a monster move in gold coming for my cycle high  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 15, 2010, 11:43:12 PM
and yet again I was faster then godmodetrader
I have beaten them consistently for 5 years now  ;D

http://www.godmode-trader.de/nachricht/,a2302931.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 19, 2010, 04:28:42 AM
Here you go PYW since you are fascinated by guns (probably because you are not allowed to have any).
Teen fires machine pistol, flees with 2 companions (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2592179/posts)
Quote
Is that a machine pistol in your shorts, or . . . . ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 19, 2010, 05:44:31 AM
Here you go PYW since you are fascinated by guns (probably because you are not allowed to have any).
Teen fires machine pistol, flees with 2 companions (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2592179/posts)
Quote
Is that a machine pistol in your shorts, or . . . . ?


Wasn'tit Freud or so that said a gun is a phallus symbol ?
( the Freudian slip in the first word was deliberate  :P
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2010, 05:33:37 AM
Ok
I redid all my statistical calculations and have two centers of a probable high for the goldprice this year ( they call that bimodel stats )

First is 5 october with a descending probability for a short time after the 5 th
Second is 14 october with a cumulative rising probability after the 14 th
So let us say I now work with 5 oct to first days of november as peak period but
focussing on 5 and 14 with all indicators and oscillators
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 20, 2010, 06:56:04 AM
It really depends on how fast and how high this moves goes. A steady climb with no short term blow off spike and the run will continue until that happens. Even then you will need formations like triple tops or rounding down tops to warn of the end of this run, may not happen until some time next year.
So far no real panic to the up side has set in.... yet.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2010, 09:26:59 AM
A high for 2010 just means that
A higher high 107 days later is likely and only the first of three 107 cycles
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 21, 2010, 03:29:12 PM
These speakers are no longer in production but are still popular and were made in an export 230v version. Even has a remote.
Klipsch iFi iPod/Computer Speaker (http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/ifi-specifications/)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 21, 2010, 11:47:48 PM
These speakers are no longer in production but are still popular and were made in an export 230v version. Even has a remote.
Klipsch iFi iPod/Computer Speaker (http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/ifi-specifications/)

my KEF105 reference speakers have two bassunits and start at 20 Hz on the curve
they can handle double the wattage too ( i tried once and had sore eardrums for a week )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 21, 2010, 11:52:23 PM
My predictions on gold
High 5 october or 14 october ( first is a sing wave high of 107 days ; second is to get an average of 107 on the three 107 waves of this "yearly cycle" )

Linear chart high is 1320$ plus
My own ema65 plus 25% is 1406$
Logaritmic high is 1625$

I am wishing 14 oct and 1625$  ;D :D ::)

Daily chart with gold for two month in a nice channel attached ; upwards blow out of this channel signals the end is near for the year

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 21, 2010, 11:53:29 PM
Goldchart linear
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2010, 06:39:59 AM
Today gold was marking time
( moving sideways in the channel )
Tx to MFN giving me 4.5% though

On the german forum the first have lost their nerve . One is selling YRI
I stay put  ;D I mean I call  ;D Well I mean I just wait for the yearhigh  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2010, 06:46:56 AM
There is a proposal on the table ( worldwide ?) to aid the poor by adding a new tax
of 5 cents per 1000$ share trade . Heard this on the TV
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2010, 06:49:17 AM
GDF Suez an energy giant placed 700 million pound in 50 year notes  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2010, 08:52:12 AM
Hehe
Kitco put in 1325 as first hurdle  8)

(http://www.kitco.com/ind/Wyckoff/images/gold1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 22, 2010, 11:53:35 AM
Taking of money to pay debt will come in all forms. Just creates another layer of bureaucracy with salaries and nothing gets solved but by bribes.

It's all new territory so anything can happen. Only silver is traveling without fear. First resistance for gold is $1300. US$ need to confirm by staying down. All the miners go up some just faster than others. Spot channel is a good guide, may not apply to some miners as leverage kicks in.

The steady spot channel is narrow for a change probably means conviction.

Interesting times.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2010, 08:30:08 PM
Yes interesting times
As I expect a high starting 5 oct I have put two shares on half hourly bars watch
Tanzanian of course which is in a mini parabolic blow off and Great basin gold which
is in the same situation . Oceana gold is not far behind but slow stoch is still comfy

I still got three lousy performers ; K and YRI which seem chronically so and MFN which is more of a trading share .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 23, 2010, 04:16:17 AM
I allready have a few days a 550 target for HUI
But this time godmode trader really sees it big  ;D

(https://ssl.godmode-trader.de/charts/46/2005/dda8562.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 23, 2010, 07:58:46 AM
The first Cyber attack occured and Iran may have been  the target
Good ole leaking Windows at a lot more holes then they thought and Siemens
was also in the abused systems category
As collateral victories a lot more computer systems were infected what may
come in handy for the attackers one day

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/cbf707d2-c737-11df-aeb1-00144feab49a.html

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e9d3a662-c740-11df-aeb1-00144feab49a.html


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 23, 2010, 01:38:31 PM
The first Cyber attack occured and Iran may have been  the target
Good ole leaking Windows at a lot more holes then they thought and Siemens
was also in the abused systems category
As collateral victories a lot more computer systems were infected what may
come in handy for the attackers one day

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/cbf707d2-c737-11df-aeb1-00144feab49a.html

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e9d3a662-c740-11df-aeb1-00144feab49a.html

I was reading if it was an intent to damage then the damage is already done. Could explain the delayed Iran nuke plant start up. This virus is now known and can be scrubbed. Anyone dumb enough to load Windows on an enterprise computer deserves some down time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 23, 2010, 08:40:43 PM
.....Just might have to move those doors stops to a secure location.......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 23, 2010, 11:13:28 PM
.....Just might have to move those doors stops to a secure location.......

American TV viewers seem to buy a lot of junk at high mark up prices
I read 3 boiler salesmen are persued by the SEC ( that would be the first time
I know the SEC is doing something )

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page72068?oid=111682&sn=Detail&pid=92730
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 24, 2010, 05:52:32 PM
I always thought if PYW adjusted his formulas it might sync up better in real time and there wouldn't be those windows that didn't fit in anywhere.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 24, 2010, 11:38:57 PM
I always thought if PYW adjusted his formulas it might sync up better in real time and there wouldn't be those windows that didn't fit in anywhere.

Too cryptic for me to understand
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 25, 2010, 07:57:33 AM
Yeah, he uses pi too so you'll never know the answer.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 25, 2010, 08:00:40 AM
A follow up.....Software smart bomb fired at Iranian nuclear plant (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2596118/posts?page=36)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 26, 2010, 12:07:37 AM
I think the gold yearly high is still coming
If I am right I consider stopping posting charts altogether since only two people in the
world are interested an a third is only interested in stealing my work
Seven of Eleven is back with me and frankly I am still happy he agrees with my charts
( that is a pun since his name is frank )


(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3175/26910week.png)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 27, 2010, 05:57:21 AM
Sold a bunch of stocks today even starting clipping some cores. Probably have enough cash to carry me through until next August no matter what happens.

Miners seem to be copying last year's action, so far. A dip here and I might take a chance on getting back in for a run back up.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2010, 06:01:39 AM
Sold a bunch of stocks today even starting clipping some cores. Probably have enough cash to carry me through until next August no matter what happens.

My window for a gold and miner top opens from 1 october on
I think this is the last 20 days cycle before the top and it should bottom today or tomorrow
5 and 14 oct are still my fav dates
The break of 1300$ will be my startshot
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 27, 2010, 06:16:14 AM
Manipulators seem to be firmly in control or trying really really hard the last couple of trading days. A spike up may only be intra-day or last a short time. Need more shorts on for a rocket launch.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on September 27, 2010, 11:44:47 AM
I think gold will top the $1,300 mark before the end of the week. And that won't be the high for the year. I am surprised silver has not made a larger jump?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2010, 09:59:07 PM
I think gold will top the $1,300 mark before the end of the week. And that won't be the high for the year. I am surprised silver has not made a larger jump?

Twoshadows if you want 300 years of gold prices : it is free week at sharelynx like I posted yesterday and they have those charts in printable form .For all of europe silver
is a raw material with 18 to 21 % tax the moment you buy and a spread of 5-10%
So you lose 25% the moment you walk out of the coinshop .

Today I made a new prediction HUI high 5 oct gold 7-8 oct or everything 9 market days
later

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6762/28sep2010.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2010, 11:37:17 PM
Bwahaha

Merican mint sold out again in pure bufs and not able to make any more this year  ;D

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=111892&sn=Detail&pid=110649
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 02:48:54 AM
What a beautifull move down and then 25$ up
All this on a 22 minutes island reversal
All the weak stoplosses must have been run  :D

(http://www.capitalstool.com/forums/uploads/post-4700-12856847144038.gif)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 03:26:36 AM
I sold a lot at market this morning after setting the sells for profits last night. Then saw the action after the open and bought back in as the miners were slow to react to spot. All I needed was to see $1300 cleared to get me interested. I was light in CGC so added a bit in case they do merge or whatever.

Some trading fun.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 03:42:37 AM
I sold a lot at market this morning after setting the sells for profits last night. Then saw the action after the open and bought back in as the miners were slow to react to spot. All I needed was to see $1300 cleared to get me interested. I was light in CGC so added a bit in case they do merge or whatever.

Some trading fun.

Between exchange euro-dollar and bankcosts I have like 3% cost on a 3000 Euro trade
and below 3000 it gets worse procentage wise but the cost does not go down with higher money amount trades . So I can only swingtrade.
I probably will start slip sliding out of the trades on which I have 60-80% gains since last low ( oceana and GBG and tanzania)

Do you pay for life quotes ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 03:54:19 AM
From smart invest
What a pentup energy

(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4821/huigld.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 04:13:28 AM
NG is about the only miner I can rely on to be consistent. NGD needs to pay off the Mexican government before I regain complete confidence in that stock. HL must have a management problem because its worth is not reflected in stock price. Still, all in all, doing better than I had hoped for lately. CGC running up.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 04:20:41 AM
You mean 'live quotes' I guess. Well, kinda of. Stock price in the portfolio are not streaming live quotes (delayed) but when I place an order I do get a real time live quote but I still have to refresh the live quote for the latest price because it doesn't stream to me. At $6 a trade what the hell, okay with me.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 04:31:13 AM
You mean 'live quotes' I guess. Well, kinda of. Stock price in the portfolio are not streaming live quotes (delayed) but when I place an order I do get a real time live quote but I still have to refresh the live quote for the latest price because it doesn't stream to me. At $6 a trade what the hell, okay with me.

Yes some of my bosses asskicked me for not using a spell checker . But there is no magic spell I just write
phonetically when I am doing two things at the same time so live it is.
I have an in computer charting program getting free gold; dollar; HUI and indexes streaming into one minute bars and the rest 15 minutes delayed into one minute bars ( I can use ticks or 5 minutes etc ; whatever I want ) They all come from Yahoo by way off a yahoo API service written into the program.
At  45 euro cost I do not even get life confirmation on ordering from europe . ???

PS but I have to pay NO capital gains tax lol
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 04:38:40 AM
Yeah, if I remember right, you pull live quotes from a wire service via a tv connection. Smart.

English is just a tough language. It's like writing in riddles.  "What did the ocean do when it saw the beach?" It waved.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 04:39:44 AM
You don't have to remind me and rub the tax thing in.......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 04:44:00 AM
Yeah, if I remember right, you pull live quotes from a wire service via a tv connection. Smart.

English is just a tough language. It's like writing in riddles.  "What did the ocean do when it saw the beach?" It waved.

They ask like 300 euro a year if you are not that smart . I think real live cost like 4 times that and you have to choose from a menu up to a total of 100 or so .

Anyway HUI and gold are live and can be used fairly well to use the 15 minutes delayed miners and predict the correct miners price at times of buy or sale . On top of that if my order is not executed in a few minutes I can change as much as I want till my computer tells me it is executed . So I find the right price by edging down on sales and up on purchases .
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 04:45:35 AM
You don't have to remind me and rub the tax thing in.......

Ah but you can deduct losses
I cannot  ;D
And the Germans are paying tax too since january this year so it is coming  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 05:14:03 AM
Welcome (soon) to the game of weighing and balancing tax implications every time you trade.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 05:46:04 AM
1310$ is the top of that channel I posted this morning
I am curious whether we will accelerate upwards out of this channel for the end of this cycle
Not that it matters since I trade miners only
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 05:52:15 AM
Welcome (soon) to the game of weighing and balancing tax implications every time you trade.

With a little bit of luck we will have no government this year  ;D
Walloons and Flemish are seriously arguing
Walloons at expected when Belgium is split Brussels would join them ; but Brussels has decided they want to try it alone as a citystate in that case 8) Good luck to them then the European Union can pay their Billions of deficits  :D
After like 134 days without government the Dutch have decided to try a minority government starting
this weekend  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 07:02:21 AM
Every Euroland country is trying to avoid paying the debt burden of other members as Armstrong points out they can't devalue their local currency because they signed up to use Euros so technically have no local currency or local economies (except black markets in currency ex. German denominations).

Have no idea how this play outs but spot needs to put a floor in at $1300 for the time being to continue on up. Friends of gold doing that so far. Sold some CGC on the rise for profits already.

Was repositioning and sold some RGLD. Seems on this move I'm better off looking for the large movers instead of the steady movers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 07:26:55 AM
Norcini says shorts were put on to try and cap the $1300 and bulls just attacked those shorts something fierce this morning. He would know all the details with his trading connections.

Sinclair just saying it's going up and up and up.

.79 on the US$ is here already. Sad.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
I have ten miners
Only three are doing worse then HUI based on 3 dec peak last year
On this move K is going out and a third YRI and some MFN
I will be buying more Aurizon to bring it up to full position strength
I do not know yet about the others ema 65 crossing ema 200 seem good candidates
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2010, 09:31:11 AM
I have some long shots performing lately. I did drop a few like GBG TGB and BAA which had a nice move today but so did the ones I moved into like NWI.to and URRE. I've been in and out of NG my favorite. NGD just not acting as strong as it was.  Want HL to do something big and I am happy with my GSS position.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2010, 11:25:48 PM
For me the suspense continues
Will gold break upwards out of its channel
Will tuesday next week be the high for HUI
Will I get to get some cash

Mama will they drop the bomb
Mama will I run for president................
Teacher ; leave them kids alone............

 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2010, 02:59:31 AM
Looks like profit taking complete and the run will continue for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 03:25:31 AM
Looks like profit taking complete and the run will continue for the rest of the day.

I am sitting with my finger on the sell buttom ; getting cramp in my hand
I see no very shortterm exageration in any share except maybe NGD
I know I had better wait till next week tuesday my target day ; but I would feel more
comfy with some cash going into the weekend . I got 110% net gain on my last trading slice
of Tanzanian and feel like a pig wanting 8 cad$
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2010, 04:34:02 AM
Selling some on the way up won't hurt. Profits never hurt. I've been selling and buying back like crazy, at least the 20% I trade in. I take profit and usually move into laggers or long shots.

Gold rise is still steady and calm. Sliver playing catch up in ratio.

Looks like I finally got one right but I don't want to jinks it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 04:46:35 AM
There are mini shake outs in the dollar and HUI

But I do not expect any miner to meet my selling crit today ( high slow stock and high momentum on the daily chart )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2010, 05:23:05 AM
Manipulators are trying to pound spot down but it's not working. Silver wants $22. China shutting down rare earth mines there, what fun.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2010, 05:32:17 AM
Either the six guys at the Stool are the most seasoned group of traders I've ever seen or they are just not interested. The board is dead, we go up.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 06:01:11 AM
Either the six guys at the Stool are the most seasoned group of traders I've ever seen or they are just not interested. The board is dead, we go up.

Dharma is lording it over a group of awed cowards at tt forum
He reads a lot and synthesises well what he reads and edges his bets
continuously. His resume is smooth sailing till the end of the week and
a blistering next week with highs coming or gone  ;D ;D ;D

Nobody noticed he never made it to his 15 weeks low and he never ever
showed a chart.Recycle man from the Philipines on the other hand
is a gambler . You only hear from him when his gambles paid off.

Our lawyer bearvest on the other hand does not see anything but gold doom and
even he sees no such thing right now  ::)

At the German forum where I post some are allready 30% in cash and
they don't know what to think of my posts so they keep quiet  :D
I am mostly posting to myself these days  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 06:07:21 AM
The five day chart with 30 minute bars summerizes today
Extreme boredom
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2010, 07:08:10 AM
Either the six guys at the Stool are the most seasoned group of traders I've ever seen or they are just not interested. The board is dead, we go up.
I am mostly posting to myself these days  ::)

Ain't that the truth. The nut cases are rethinking their stance on precious metals........ quietly.

I was getting out the other day (seems like yesterday, ha)  and got right back in, didn't even give it a second thought. Once in a lifetime moves are happening again I was think'in, it will correct a little later on but not in the next few days.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 08:00:02 AM
I am still 97.5% in
The next four market days should give the HUI hight
If I can catch the high close enough as I did a dozen times before I can make
an extra 10-20 % on the trade vs my core
Minefinders is fucking with me today ; down 8%
It is now on my list of mines on the way out of my portfolio
Kinross out , Yamana down and MFN down
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2010, 11:02:44 AM
@PYW did I see you in one of the rioting pics from Euroland?

You need to pickup some $1 or less long shots. Take overs should be rampant (6 month time frame) buy soon and buy often.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 12:31:01 PM
@PYW did I see you in one of the rioting pics from Euroland?

You need to pickup some $1 or less long shots. Take overs should be rampant (6 month time frame) buy soon and buy often.

I do not do pink sheets for cost reasons . Do you have the names of any toronto candidates?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2010, 05:34:24 PM
August try this link and after reading it then find the 'stock' link in the heading to find a few more suggestions.

National Inflation Association (http://inflation.us/ourtopsilverstock.html)

I have a Yahoo stock watch list I keep when some miner looks interesting to me and you are welcome to pick through it. Quite a few Canadian miners amongst them. Even having, say, 10 good long shot picks that never hit home runs, I bet all still go up in stock price while waiting.

If this slow steady grind continues on up, it could go on weeks and months more. Intermediate trend is 2 months old with a nice angle. This could be(?) considered the last part of the 3rd wave up before a corrective 4th down.

If NIA (above) has the silver strategy correct then a couple of silver plays won't hurt. Silver has certainly been carrying on lately.
 
If China is going to upset the base and precious metals supply then maybe some rare earth miners might do for a short time. The US has more than enough metals and fossil fuels for that matter to survive except no one is allowed to tap into them, yet. Then there is Canada and even South America then Aussie land, so a short term squeeze might hurt even if it ran in to years, no one has the final say in metal supply except maybe in pricing.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 09:31:28 PM
For me I think time is up
The slow grind will end at 1320$ gold for some kind of a correction bringing the weekly slow stochs to 20

I have made my sell list and this being the last day of the quarter I hope the window dressing will be them buying shares  :)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2010, 09:33:02 PM
How do I get to see your yahoo list ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2010, 03:56:48 AM
OK
I survived the 2.5% drop and now we are hopefully shooting up like a cork out of water

This was more nailbiting excitement then videogames  >:(

True to form still 98.5% all in  :)

I am going to be roadkill or an hero ; no in between
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 30, 2010, 05:29:41 AM
I'll post screen shots of the Yahoo lists. Forewarning: If you use any and lose money, I'm changing my e-mail address. If have winning bets then I get 10%, you pay my taxes.

I see after you were done protesting, you sent e-mail to China on behalf of Siemens..........
The virus targets control systems made by German industrial giant Siemens commonly used to manage water supplies, oil rigs, power plants and other industrial facilities. "This malware is specially designed to sabotage plants and damage industrial systems (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2599106/posts)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 30, 2010, 05:32:50 AM
In random order....
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 30, 2010, 05:34:08 AM
continued...
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 30, 2010, 05:35:14 AM
last one......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 30, 2010, 05:38:02 AM
Lucky it's staying inside a narrow channel on the way up or you would be jumping out the window onto the street.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2010, 06:00:03 AM
Lucky it's staying inside a narrow channel on the way up or you would be jumping out the window onto the street.

I live in a house and computer "work" on the ground floor .
But I am cursing so hard my neighbor turned up the radio  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2010, 06:01:33 AM
Thanks
Your terms are standard terms for fundmanagers  ;D
I will send you my bill for cycle analyses  :P

Quote
I'll post screen shots of the Yahoo lists. Forewarning: If you use any and lose money, I'm changing my e-mail address. If have winning bets then I get 10%, you pay my taxes.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2010, 09:39:22 PM
Monthly chart of gold shows we are topping ( a condition that theoretically could last months but I am thinking october is it )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2010, 09:41:28 PM
Weekly same story we are there but could stay there
This is where the 107 or 3x107 cycles come into play
5 or 14 october still highest probability

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2010, 09:43:38 PM
Daily Chart
Surprise surprise
The paralel line program of my computer has redrawn the lines
( I am no longer needed)
The high can be higher then 1320 more like 1330 plus now
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 30, 2010, 10:00:52 PM
Try and relax August. Enjoy or your neighbor will go deaf.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2010, 11:26:21 PM
Try and relax August. Enjoy or your neighbor will go deaf.

Ha but there are only three times a year I can get to get the casino feel

Belgian law allows me all noise up to 10 pm from 7 am on

Fucker already complained three times because of my music so at 10 pm exact I switch to heavy full ear surrounding earphones  >:(
My neighbor is a high quality chef cook and he has found no work on his level for 15 years now
So he has been living on Social Security for 15 years now ( 41 euro a day 6 days a week )
At age 65 he will get a pension which might be less .

He hopes to inherit enough money before that time .
I do not really hate him ; I just despise his two faces every time he comes to complain about something like a few month ago on sunday midday he phoned three sundays in a row because he had problems with odour from my sewer . He then asked his landlord to warn me . So his landlord phoned sunday midday again when I was eating and asked me when I was going to have the problem fixed. I told him blankly "this night at 12 pm"
He did not understand ; so I gave the phone to my wife who is very diplomatic  :D
She promised and did not do it . So I called in the city engineer and told him the problem was one yard from my property on city property . They fixed it with a 500 bar cleaning truck  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on October 01, 2010, 05:31:01 AM
Casino?  This has been a sure bet for the last ten years. Even if you tried to lose money you would still break even.

Extremely tame action in miners. Gold steady with no panic yet. Silver reaching but without gold spiking they both will just continue the climb. Should be plenty of warning during a blow off spike for profit taking. I'm mostly all in again after watching the current action. Added to what I already had.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on October 01, 2010, 07:41:15 AM
Weekly same story we are there but could stay there
This is where the 107 or 3x107 cycles come into play
5 or 14 october still highest probability



Currently I agree. Mid Oct looks like top and very nasty down into mid Nov.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 01, 2010, 09:11:49 AM
Weekly same story we are there but could stay there
This is where the 107 or 3x107 cycles come into play
5 or 14 october still highest probability



Currently I agree. Mid Oct looks like top and very nasty down into mid Nov.

I have been watching action all day
The dollar went down like .75% so net my day was zip
Still 97.5% invested over the weekend
If the high is not past I will catch it with my trading shares ; what happens after the top is the weekly stochs moving to 20% any which way

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 04, 2011, 02:08:11 AM
Lets keep going.
Possible gold peak of some sort around April 7 ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 27, 2012, 09:47:45 PM
In grease somebody threw a bomb at a branch of the national bank
Meanwhile the forum here crashed
Dexia bad bank needs to be saved a third time (and not the last time)
and we start anew ...not sure about grease though
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 28, 2012, 02:38:26 AM
Friday is a blue moon

Dharma club says we fall down with gold
I say we stay or go up  ;D and we correct in september
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 28, 2012, 11:43:10 AM
Gold, miners and the regular markets not looking strong here. Crash in the regular markets could drag everything down with it. Thinking about taking one account to cash. Some long shot miners, if I sell I can't get back in since my broker changed guidelines for purchase in certain grey markets areas for  OTC miners.

Double topping patterns possible on most charts.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on August 28, 2012, 03:48:59 PM
Even before the PM launch noticed the premium on most Ebay auction purchases and most "buy it now" totally unrealistic.
Cycles
Expect some kind of bottom in about three weeks. If higher then a wave two bottom?
Also expecting some kind of gold bottom toward end of year. Silver top near same time. High volatility?
Always look at bottoms for buying opportunities.

Top of some kind tomorrow??? Expect a move up of some kind. I'll be glued to my monitor tomorrow.
 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 28, 2012, 11:45:35 PM
Situation unchanged
Monthly slow stoch at 65% and would need a rally to close the month over 80%
Weekly over 80% and no sign of coming down

So we will know after the 31st what to expect
Likely is the cycle to run into a september slow stoch high I figure ( relative price high )

once the monthly comes down from above 80% the correction will be 7 weeks or more

Weekly chart attachement not working
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on August 29, 2012, 04:57:15 AM
Situation unchanged
Monthly slow stoch at 65% and would need a rally to close the month over 80%
Weekly over 80% and no sign of coming down

So we will know after the 31st what to expect
Likely is the cycle to run into a september slow stoch high I figure ( relative price high )

once the monthly comes down from above 80% the correction will be 7 weeks or more

Weekly chart attachement not working

Used Netdania.com
Great charting - recently updated. Use world markets for non-forex.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 29, 2012, 09:05:28 AM
How much I love computers (not)

A single lamp in my chandelier blew and caused a short which threw the magnetic breaker which downpowered my laptop
The main program threw a fit and shut the computer down
The reboot failed because an adobe update was ready and for some or other reason the past year I crash on a new adobe reader message
So I had to run all the diagnostics and by the time I was back online I got a message that
Firefox rubbish nr 15 was out but did not support Norton toolbar . I refused and crashed again. After two hours I was back and running
I got four backups one day old, one week old , last month and april
I needed those back ups once in april for a 5 year running
Point is when you need them you have to have them
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 29, 2012, 11:47:32 AM
Try Foxit Reader. The free basic version is browser based and needs very little drive space.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 29, 2012, 04:13:14 PM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 Elliott Wave Update ~ 29 August 2012 Technicals are anemic.  Yet prices are levitating. Zero Hedge notes the low volume situation. (http://danericselliottwaves.blogspot.com/2012/08/elliott-wave-update-29-august-2012.html)

If you throw out the EW counting, the rest of the analysis appears correct.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 30, 2012, 03:39:43 AM
I refused to install firefox 15
Today firefox 14 simply crashed without any reason at all and restarted as firefox 15
So much for free choice . Thank you open source shit to go public like facebook and crash in the market.
There is no such thing as a free meal unless you use bugmenot
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 30, 2012, 09:00:50 AM
No more Lee Marvin
I am the dragonslayer now

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/148/dragonslayerbyarsenixc.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on August 30, 2012, 10:59:41 AM
Good choice! ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 30, 2012, 06:38:23 PM
Gun advocates outbid Detroit police for unwanted guns at buyback event (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2012/08/gun_advocates_offer_to_outbid.html)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 30, 2012, 07:39:32 PM
http://www.martinarmstrong.org/economic_projections.htm

Armstrong seems to be getting excited and writing more, finally sees 2013 becoming an important year.

I was looking at the 3 & 6 month charts for spot gold, shows flagging down patterns which means a  good pop up is still possible, soon. 1 year and 5 year charts show resistance around recent price levels. There is no guarantee that a run up can sustain itself yet. Price action could still get wild until it resolves itself with all the resistance levels. Miners need some serious in flows of money to attract attention to themselves.

The beginning of a stair step pattern here would be a real plus.  
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 30, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
The link does not work

Anyway the 22 month high is still expected next year and that is normally a major high
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on August 31, 2012, 04:27:35 AM
http://www.martinarmstrong.org/economic_projections.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 31, 2012, 06:19:23 AM
Thank you

Gold is trying to get the monthly slow stoch over 80
How exciting this rally
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 01, 2012, 02:01:21 AM
I ran all the charts
The monthly stranded at 72% slow stoch and with a high probability sept will be the stoch high
The weekly kept on trucking on and a high in sept is more then likely
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 01, 2012, 02:02:03 AM
I ran all the charts
The monthly stranded at 72% slow stoch and with a high probability sept will be the stoch high
The weekly kept on trucking on and a high in sept is more then likely
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 01, 2012, 02:02:56 AM
Nice fun text only too true

There was nothing wrong with my weight, I just was not tall enough for my weight

Posts still crash on accents etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 01, 2012, 10:32:33 AM
That Armstrong link now lists a Friday gold chart with a writeup for some short term resistance targets.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 01, 2012, 12:18:15 PM
The link does not work

Anyway the 22 month high is still expected next year and that is normally a major high


Looks like about a year from now.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 01, 2012, 12:30:12 PM
Didn't sell last week, looks like this coming week might take some profits. Nice strength.
Next entry, end of month (Sept)?
Next low/ entry Xmas and the big launch into next summer?
All tentative
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 02, 2012, 01:08:24 AM
Next entry will be up to 7 weeks after the stoch high

I might sell some more on the monthly high to get eating cash

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 03, 2012, 04:12:20 PM
Broke above the flag resistance, if it continues, leaves a $200 area to clear before resistance for the old high comes into play. Small gaps on HUI Friday almost meaningless as the longs beat up on the shorts.

I'd watch silver at $35 and $37 to see if it can hold those levels then gold should base higher this time around.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 03, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
Due to the mathematical nature of the slow stoch indicator
all periods monthly and weekly and daily are now overbought
The monthly shot to 96%
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 03, 2012, 11:35:49 PM
The weekly flatlined at the max slow stoch
We are living on borrowed time before the corrction which should take 2 to 7 weeks normally
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 04, 2012, 12:12:06 AM
Well another "summer of recovery" is over with no
recovery. Good job Ben.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: OldDan on September 04, 2012, 01:57:35 AM
Well another "summer of recovery" is over with no
recovery. Good job Ben.

Ah yes, but he did manage to find some fun while visiting in Jackson Hole this last week end... Where are those bears when you need one???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 04, 2012, 05:39:00 AM
That could mean a crash in the regular markets as gold moves sideways while basing to drag the 20/80 back down. Miners could decouple during that time but not runaway. Still hard to make a buck here.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2012, 06:27:46 AM
I have not made a buck since late 2011
If this thing does not give a donkey kick into 1800 and drops back
I am not going to make a buck this year either

A german newpaper had a poll and three quarters of the germans want grease out

The cofounder of pirate bay got arrested in a far away country

The world just trucks on until it drives into a ravine
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 04, 2012, 10:33:54 AM
Global crisis moves East as China suffers rapid downturn (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9518859/Global-crisis-moves-East-as-China-suffers-rapid-downturn.html)

And China is going to save themselves, how?

I can't seem to find anything on pre-xmas ordering for major store stocking as it is done in July and August based on holiday anticipation, must be pretty bad.

If money pumping from world banks doesn't work then debt-deflation will take over and send everything down. Might want to think about temporarily going 1/2 cash on a high. You would only risk being half wrong or right.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
I was thinking about getting more cash in a september high

In the meantime the grease are shocked because germany is suggesting
they work six days a week .
What total bullshit ; they hardley work 2 to 4 hours a day
I suggest they all work 5 hours a day  :o ::) :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2012, 08:59:49 PM
HUI according to the german elliot woofers

(http://www.goldseiten.de/bilder/upload/gs5045fba02820c.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 04, 2012, 09:01:39 PM
I like this Jim Sinclair joke

"Dogs Welcome"

A man wrote a letter to a small hotel in a Midwest town he planned to visit on his vacation.

He wrote: "I would very much like to bring my dog with me. He is well-groomed and very well behaved. Would you be willing to permit me to keep him in my room with me at night?"

An immediate reply came from the hotel owner, who wrote: SIR: "Ive been operating this hotel for many years. In all that time, Ive never had a dog steal towels, bedclothes, silverware, or pictures off the walls.

Ive never had to evict a dog in the middle of the night for being drunk and disorderly. And Ive never had a dog run out on a hotel bill. Yes, indeed, your dog is welcome at my hotel. And, if your dog will vouch for you, you re welcome to stay here, too."

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 05, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
Well another "summer of recovery" is over with no
recovery. Good job Ben.

Ah yes, but he did manage to find some fun while visiting in Jackson Hole this last week end... Where are those bears when you need one???
He should stand in the middle of a wheat field and
and give those Jackson Hole speeches. At least then
he can  rightfully say he did something useful.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on September 05, 2012, 02:39:07 AM
Ah yes, England has their Big Ben and we have a speck of Little Ben. We he speaks NO ONE listens!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 05, 2012, 06:29:10 AM
Gold weak and miners weaker. Not a very strong reaction off the lows.

Beginning to sell here. I don't need an absolute high to dump. Just collect some profits along the way. Mainly NGD so far.

Armstrong's September 4, 2012 (http://armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong_economics_blog/) still has a two year gold low around Jan. '13.

Baja Mining crashed which they really didn't deserve but their poor lying management took them down. Usually I'd buy the lows for nice gains on the retrace bounces but I didn't even bother to do that this time. Hard to get excited when world economies are in depression.

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 05, 2012, 09:51:38 AM
My remaining shares in NGD are at zero bookvalue
I do not sell the good shares but the pieces of shit  ???
of which I have more then one  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 06, 2012, 03:00:07 AM
Suspect this is a blow off short term high today ???
Took some profit yesterday.
Underwater on too much.
Refining my thinking that the general stock market is rigged/ QEeed and move to more conservative strategies.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 06, 2012, 05:59:17 AM
I'm underwater on most all my holdings esp. NG which is doing a painfully slow recovery now. NGD is  in the money and holdings are more than a year for tax purposes, selling the core is the main question and concern, HL I can take profits too and reload with some options I have at $5 and $5.50 but not yet. I have some Silvercrest that is doing well through all this but it sets in the ROTH.

If a 2 year low does happen Dec/Jan, it seems massive options buying would be a good play esp. in silver miners as far out as possible.

I look for total shares held count. I am doing well on that one and gathering some cash now if lows do show up.

Amazon will start collecting Cali. sales tax middle of this month, consumers are trying to beat the deadline.

Armstrong keeps  updating. (http://armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong_economics_blog/)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 06, 2012, 07:30:58 AM
I am underwater on half my holdings
Some down 70% but then again I lost 90% on Echo Bay and sold at 10% gain after a few years
Lucky for me my supersized position was NGD now down to a normal position and
OGC is doing well
I am in for the parabolic , that is a 6 to 8 fold increase in a 6 months time period
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 06, 2012, 06:36:37 PM
Doesn't German Courts have to rule if the Euro bond issues are legal under German law?

What the hell is going on over there? Does some head of the Euro bank runs the Union? (Draghi ex Goldman Sachs head BTW)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 06, 2012, 08:58:51 PM
In theory the ECB is independant
They decided when needed that all the Country bonds over say 6% interest will be bought by the ECB ( plain monetarization)

In the meantime Spain announced they will need a bail out next week
One province in Spain went to civil disobedience and refuses to pay taxes

It is amazing that amidst all these euro woes the dollar is dropping like a brick for several weeks now

I saw no news on the German decision which was supposed to have been yesterday
( I will go and read some german newspapers )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 06, 2012, 08:59:53 PM
They should turn a few banksters upside down and
see how many politicians come tumbling out of the
pockets.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 06, 2012, 09:16:21 PM
German court verdict is on next Tuesday

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article109069100/Deutsche-hoffen-auf-Erfolg-der-Euro-Skeptiker.html

I did not know they are robed in bloodred

(http://www.welt.de/img/deutschland/crop109069099/0569844857-ci3x2s-w300/ESM-Prozess-Befangenheitsantrag-gegen-Karlsruher-Verfassungsrichter.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 06, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
A strange newspaper poll in germany shows that germans fear destitution more then war  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 06, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
THAT IS INTERESTING BUT DISTURBING-----OF COURSE WAR HAS MANY BENEFITS ESPECIALLY IT YOU GO TO WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES-----BECAUSE WE WILL GIVE MORE PEOPLE JOBS----AND IF YOU LET US WIN---WE WILL REBUILD YOUR COUNTRY AND MAKE YOU MORE MODERN THAN WE ARE LOOK AT HOW WE HELPED GERMANY AND JAPAN---------THEN WE TELL JAPAN THEY CAN NEVER HAVE A NAVY--ARMY---OR AIR FORCE ----WE WILL PROTECT YOU---THEN JAPAN  SAVES BILLIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON THEIR MILITARY---THEY CAN BUILD CARS ..............AND AND COMPUTERS AND SELL THEM CHEAPER THAN OURS--------------AND THAT IS THE TRUTH------
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 07, 2012, 03:44:05 AM
At least in the US I can count on there being no rule of law. Not sure if the banksters are supported by the military or the military is support by banksters, symbiotic either way as political puppets just get in the way of things.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 07, 2012, 06:28:13 AM
Remember the film with Eddy Murphy
The mouse that roared
They invaded New York with about 12 lancemen in order to surrender and get aid
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 07, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
I remember the original one with Peter Sellers,
I think.

Here's the latest Merkle load of crap.
 http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/idINL6E8K7J0S20120907?irpc=932

Un-huh.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 07, 2012, 11:56:27 AM
THE ORIGINAL WAS CALLED "THE MOUSE THAT ROARED" AND THEY WERE ONLY HOPING TO LOSE AND THEN GET AID---AND IT TURNS OUT THAT THEY WIN===IT IS A GOOD MOVIE TO WATCH............IT HAD ALOT OF CHARACTER  ACTORS IN IT...........
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 08, 2012, 12:05:44 AM
what is more useless then a pharmaceutical rep ? why a lobbyist of course or a bankster
There is hope
They can go and clean shit in Sweden

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-07/jobless-greeks-resolved-to-work-clean-toilets-in-sweden.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 08, 2012, 12:16:18 AM
80 million in gold seized by Obama
What a bunch of assholes that family is
They got what they deserved

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-says-10-rare-gold-coins-worth-80-152750965--abc-news-topstories.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 08, 2012, 11:15:21 AM
Yeah, those red robes make anything they say more believable.

It is not O'bummer as the main problem here in the US, it is Congress. It is a one party system and the public opinion poll giving Congress less than a 10% favorable rating is well deserved. Even with Romney it will be more of the same just a small shift using his own personal priorities.

The shorts had run out of money so gold and silver prices must rise until precious metal ETFs collect enough new money to be used to bet against gold and silver again.

It's only been about two weeks in to this run and mob mentality has taken hold, seen with gaps in the HUI.

Some stair stepping in gold but in a retracement zone.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 08, 2012, 11:55:33 PM
All indexes
Market vectors Senior and Junior and HUI an Xau all jumped above the 200 ema
The correction will be a test back to that 200 ema
But statistics indicate the correction being post september
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 09, 2012, 12:01:11 AM
And so it begins
Socialist idiot Hollande wants to tax 75% those people that get more then a million income
( And probably provide jobs to 50 000 people )

The richest Frenchman and fourth richest in the world has asked to become Belgian

France and Monaco have a tax agreement
Belgium and Monaco DO NOT

So once he becomes Belgian he can move to Monaco and pay NO Taxes

That is the way it was reported on Belgian TV

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/socialist-counter-revolution-begins-frances-richest-man-seeks-belgian-citizenship
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 09, 2012, 08:02:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j66obAWgIE&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 09, 2012, 08:50:12 PM
Ah yes
Socialist Hollande announced he will raise taxes by 20 billion
Reducing spending is never an option

Who is John G ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2012, 05:52:53 AM
Today gold is a non event
If my expectations are right we have to wade thru september and then get a mathematical slow stoch correction before we are off to the races once more
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2012, 05:52:53 AM
Today gold is a non event
If my expectations are right we have to wade thru september and then get a mathematical slow stoch correction before we are off to the races once more
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 11, 2012, 07:33:39 AM
 Do they keep changing the dates on when
the German Court is suppose to rule on
the Golden Boys welfare checks?

I thought it was suppose to be today. Now
I'm reading tomorrow?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 11, 2012, 08:38:11 AM
Do they keep changing the dates on when
the German Court is suppose to rule on
the Golden Boys welfare checks?

I thought it was suppose to be today. Now
I'm reading tomorrow?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48967691
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 11, 2012, 06:01:19 PM
With a spot gold stair stepping pattern, there must be believers coming in. So, should continue up until a blow top or rounding tops pattern emerges, at least a month more.

US$ below $80 and oil below $100 looks like debt-deflation is weighing on everything.

Knowing the power of bankers, if they don't get their way in German courts, they will have special elections until they (bankers) get the results they want.

Bernie and the Fed can't do anything to upset the apple cart carrying 0% returns or all hell will break loose if interest rates seek their own level. Now getting 0% offers for 18 months in my trash mail for credit card balances transfers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2012, 09:48:56 PM
The German constitutional court decreed Germany can participate in QE but
with a maximum commitment of Germany of 190 billion
That is a serious party killer for the Euro socialists that would have liked to spend all of Germany s money  ;D :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
If we confirm to the cycles that have been operating for 12 years now there is
an 80% plus probability that we need only to meander sideways thru september to
have our correction also possibly sideways in october to start a new 11 months cycle

Second possibility is that we extend 5.5 months starting from september
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 12, 2012, 05:08:43 AM
If we confirm to the cycles that have been operating for 12 years now there is
an 80% plus probability that we need only to meander sideways thru september to
have our correction also possibly sideways in october to start a new 11 months cycle

Second possibility is that we extend 5.5 months starting from september

I agree with end of Sept., but if weak then end of Oct./ Nov.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 12, 2012, 10:53:02 AM
Short term rolling tops formation and then down to a higher low, that would be for a sideways correction.

The step step pattern is still working so far, the volatility hasn't showed.

A double panic top with wild swings following is being contained so far.

Going into a waterfall from these levels doesn't seem likely, at least not with all the backdoor printing about to take place.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 12, 2012, 09:15:56 PM
A little bit of daydreaming

10 000 by 2016

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8861/goldparabolic.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 13, 2012, 11:12:54 PM
Ok we know that QE3 started and the banks will be able to unload their non performing real estate loans.
Greece will get no more money but more time to pay back which we know they never will

Belgium needs to find 4.6 billion for the 2013 budget which will be nearly all taxes since
the socialist prime minister only knows how to spend other peoples money
On top of that two of our nuclear reactors have been pronounced unsafe because of cracks in the steel mantle . So we have to buy our electricity from France and Germany or go blackout.
An independant agency calculated we lost 5% purchasing power in three years . I be it is triple that number.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 13, 2012, 11:25:52 PM
It might be cheaper for taxpayers if they
let politicians get surgical extensions on
their stumpy pee-pees.
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/08/28/vladimir-putin-lifestyle_n_1836199.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2012, 02:42:07 AM
It might be cheaper for taxpayers if they
let politicians get surgical extentions on
their stumpy pee-pees.
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/08/28/vladimir-putin-lifestyle_n_1836199.html

I think a lobotomy would be cheaper  8)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 14, 2012, 03:44:28 AM
I THINK I WOULD RATHER HAVE A BOTTLE IN FRONT OF ME THAN A FRONTAL LABOTOMY
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 14, 2012, 06:33:23 AM
Surprised no one mentioned castration.
Was used by a British king on bankers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 14, 2012, 07:05:15 AM
Bankers should have to  wheel barrow concrete or stucco
around until they drop dead. Which should only take
about ten minutes.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2012, 07:23:12 AM
Bankers should have to  wheel barrow concrete or stucco
around until they drop dead. Which should only take
about ten minutes.

Much too quick

I prefer skinning very gradually and salting the skinned part
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 14, 2012, 07:47:55 AM
Tip of the day: Don't ever mess with August.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 14, 2012, 10:48:23 AM
MAN I WILL SECOND THAT.............
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 14, 2012, 11:18:58 PM
Ah but on a recalcitrant knight I will only use my secret weapon ,,, knightess


(http://imageshack.us/a/img32/8716/knightesszmm2f00z.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on September 15, 2012, 03:33:47 AM
Knightess? At first, I only saw a big sword. Oh yes, the knightess.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on September 15, 2012, 09:01:30 AM
I must admit I HAVE THAT POSTER!!! Guess I just love swords!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 16, 2012, 12:07:53 AM
I have still one university poster from when I was 20 years old and my collection of
intellectual magazines . I told my wife they came in the total package and she saw no problem  :)

On another note today I salute google for refusing to delete the coptian christian film
Arab spring is now fall murder and as they say Obamarama mideastern policy is now in shambles as is Iraq but the money printing FED assured his reelection by saving the banks once more

Money the Paris announced that from 2 octobre on the price for a one ounce coin will go from 2000 to 2100 euro ( and yes EURO that is )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 16, 2012, 12:10:29 PM
Just like your fantasies August
http://www.sharelynx.com/chartstemp/GoldeWave.php
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 16, 2012, 08:50:20 PM
Here is a summary of where the world stands: (from zerohedge)

    Unable to reach a compromise over the weekend, South Africa is now in an all out labor strike, with the police again firing rubber bullets at miners with lethal escalation guaranteed
    Back from vacation, the once again penniless citizens of Spain, Greece, and Portugal have resumed protesting austerity
    US embassies attacked, in many cases with numerous casualties, in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Sudan, Lebanon, India, Balgadesh, Indonesia, and others.
    Japan "appropriating" China-contested islands provoking a firestorm of retaliation including demands for "war with Japan"
    The Japanese ambassador to China dying mysteriously
    Netanyahu telling Meet the Press Iran will have a nuke in six-seven months and must be stopped beforehand
    Warships from more than 25 countries, including the United States, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, launching a military exercise in the Straits of Hormuz
    A third US aircraft - the CVN-74 Stennis - carrier is en route to Iran with an ETA of about 10 days
    And finally, a potential catalyst to light this whole mess on fire, Iran's Revolutionary Guard announcing that its troops are now on the ground in Syria.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 16, 2012, 09:38:05 PM
We need a song all that.  ;D
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jr9hPbYmBo
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 17, 2012, 01:12:41 AM
We need a song all that.  ;D
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jr9hPbYmBo

ah those were the days my friend
we thought theyd never end .........

gosh on the sidebar is chirpy chirpy cheep cheep ( middle of the road )

mother will they drop the bomb ?.......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 17, 2012, 06:52:54 AM
Mother will they drop the bomb?

They might drill a shaft over their lab and drop a
tactical nuke into it. "Good morning. How's it going?"

Whatever they do with Iran, it's going to get real
uguly real fast.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on September 17, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
And the Gasoline customers, being gouged now, will really get hit.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 18, 2012, 08:13:37 AM
I see penny miners catching a bid (distribution?) today so this move should correct soon but the run could continue a bit further afterwards. Hourly a bit wild, but daily still stair stepping. Should be some kind of blow off for a few days then correct.

Probably sold some of that NGD a bit early, still have a bunch. Haven't sold any HL yet. Added a little to one of my penny miner stocks with part of NGD profits.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 18, 2012, 10:32:29 AM
I got something in the mail today about a penny
stock that sells water filtering systems to third
world countries. When I checked their earnings
I noticed it and everything else  listed was 0000.
Accept short interest.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 18, 2012, 10:53:41 AM
I have a penny stock (technically, a penny stock is anything below $5 per share price) that moved 150% today, Campbell Resources or CBLRF. It is now worth $.005 per share. I would take profits but my brokerage won't allow me to buy it back, according to their new rules about trading penny stocks aka pinksheet stock trading. To risky for them to find and acquire the shares for the buyers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 18, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Arch Crawford as I have never heard him. He has a pretty good record.
http://financialsurvivalnetwork.com/2012/08/arch-crawford-the-stars-are-pointing-to-delayed-election-and-martial-law/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 19, 2012, 01:18:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gk3N6wDyOY
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 19, 2012, 01:30:44 AM
Flight of money out of 4 euro countries is causing additional problems

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-18/deposit-flight-from-europe-banks-eroding-common-currency.html

Tungsten filled 10 ounce gold bar found in new york
Since tungsten is horribly difficult to work on coins are much safer

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/tungsten-filled-10-oz-gold-bar-found-middle-manhattans-jewelry-district

The decadence and fall of the present roman empire shown by the italian chi that is showing the crack of a future queen kate not speaking of the small floppy tits

http://www.woonko.com/foto-gallery/kate-middleton-in-topless-la-regina-e-nuda-su-chi-78519.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 19, 2012, 01:37:30 AM
For what it is worth
I think the short term high may be tomorrow and if indications are I am right I sell some more tomorrow

My brother who knows only about spending money finished the 20 years loan on his house and asked about investments
He choose GDX from the alternatives I offered him
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Triggersmob on September 20, 2012, 01:02:17 AM
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/EW5IdwltaAc?rel=0
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2012, 02:35:12 AM
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/EW5IdwltaAc?rel=0

In any family if you overspend they come and take the furniture etc
But a country can overspend until it pays one billion for one egg
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on September 20, 2012, 03:47:10 AM
Thanks for that link Steve.....I believe that most of us knew of that problem for years, yet nothing will be done about it except another raise in the debt ceiling next spring.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 20, 2012, 05:16:48 AM
Americans and Europeans are living in the era of:

C   criminals
R   retards
A   %&#holes
P   parasites
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2012, 06:01:21 AM
Americans and Europeans are living in the era of:

C   criminals
R   retards
A   %&#holes
P   parasites

The use before date is 2016
After that there will be only the stink of rotten eggs
That years president will have really inherited shit ...
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2012, 06:01:21 AM
Americans and Europeans are living in the era of:

C   criminals
R   retards
A   %&#holes
P   parasites

The use before date is 2016
After that there will be only the stink of rotten eggs
That years president will have really inherited shit ...
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 20, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: Paint Your Wagon link=topic=2977.msg44437#msg44437


That years president will have really inherited shit ...
[/quote

Yeah, but that's mostly what they're full of
anyway.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 20, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
BY 2016 WE WILL BE THE PLANET OF THE DRAPES BECAUSE FUEL WILL BE SO EXPENSIVE WE WILL HANG HEAVY DRAPES TO KEEP WHAT WARMTH THERE IS INSIDE OUR HOUSE AND THAT WAY OUR NEIGHBORS WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IF WE HAVE FOOD TO EAT OR CANDLES TO WARM AND READ BY AND COOK ON-----THE LACK OF POWER WILL FORCE US TO READ NEWSPAPERS AGAIN AND WE WILL NEVER GET THE TRUTH.....JUST A HORRIBLE THOUGHT.......I'M SURE IT IS JUST A CASE OF HEART BURN....NOTHING TO REALLY GET UPSET ABOUT.......
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 20, 2012, 01:28:22 PM
I count at least three stair steps maybe five on the spot gold charts for 30 and 60 days. 6 month and 1 year charts are overbought. 5 year and 10 year begging for a cup and handle formation. I prefer the handle is added but would take three or four more months to properly draw in.

Should be at least one more step or a blow off leading to short correction before $32-$35 silver and $1800-$1900 gold is then retraced. Should happen within 10 days. October looks scary.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: TwoShadows on September 20, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
Thanks for the laugh Templar. You actually think we are reading the truth now? Haven't had a laugh like this for a long time! I think you will find the truth is on the way and its going to hurt a lot! ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2012, 09:26:03 PM
Thanks for the laugh Templar. You actually think we are reading the truth now? Haven't had a laugh like this for a long time! I think you will find the truth is on the way and its going to hurt a lot! ;D

didnt the X files say the truth is out there ?  ;)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2012, 09:28:39 PM
I still believe the 11 month cycle high will be this month
90% chance now
That means of course an october correction

Overbought is a condition that can last for years once we start the endgame
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 20, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
In a surprise move 9 euro countries voted yes for a european president
and for abolishing the one country veto ( read british veto ) against
a european army or any matters concerning defence
Especially the germans want a european army ( The fourth Reich ? )

Now that the central bank is buying bonds and keeping the interest rates low
Italy and Spain do not want help that comes with strings attached
They think they got a free meal  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 21, 2012, 02:10:58 AM
Templar: James Kunstler has simlar thoughts in
The Long Emergency. But he likes the Great Lakes
Region because of the lakes and it's distribution
potential. It's a good book, all about the effects
of expensive and declining energy. Maybe folks
buying Detriot real estate for a song are not as
crazy as they seem?
 http://www.kunstler.com/index.php
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 21, 2012, 03:54:59 AM
OH I AM SURE THE IDEA BEHIND HTHE BIG PICTURE IS TO FORCE THE POOR OUT OF THE CITY AND BUILD UP A YOUNG MIDDLE CLASS -----CINNCINATI DID IT ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO LEAVING THESE GREAT BEAUTIFUL HOUSES READY FOR RENOVATION

AND WHEN GM DECIDED TO PUT UP A PLANT IN DETROIT/HAMTRAMK----MANY HOME OWNERS WERE FORCED OUT OF HOMES THEY HAD LIVED IN AND KEPT UP FOR HALF A CENTURY AND MANY OF THE HOMES WERE BOUGHT BY POLICE--FIREMEN AND OTHER CITY WORKERS WHO KNEW THWY COULD MAKE A PROFIT---AND THEY DID

IT IS CALLED "THE LAW OF IMMINENT DOMAIN".............
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 21, 2012, 04:52:11 AM
I decided today was a good day to cash in some shares I had since november last year or longer

So I sold some here and there
I closed out the last NG never want to hear about that piece of shit again
The bankcomputer said I lost 700 euro , my accounting says I won 1100 euro
Whatever way I got cash now

Of all the shares I abandoned only Yamana looks like I maybe should have kept it
TNG too but then again it is a one man and seven dogs show
NGD and OGC are my darling biggest holdings now
Looks like GBG is no longer trading but since I lost all my money I am not interested in finding out  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 21, 2012, 04:54:33 AM
My brother finished paying for his mortgage and to my surprise he bought GDX one of the four possibilities I gave him
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 21, 2012, 05:20:58 AM
Yeah, selling for profit then buying back in can really mess up your averages. You might lose on the buy back but long term the first sell for profit will keep you above water.

I like to take some profits and buy penny long shots in case one of them takes off. Doesn't cost much and you get a ton of shares or like I say,  options might be the way to go soon esp. silver miners.

There is GDXJ to cover the juniors.

Cash is always good for a short period even if you missed 100% of a move, catching 50% of a move is ahead of the game.

I do not see how it is going to work out in Euroland. A pipe dream? I think the language barrier along with all the different history of member states is not compatible. Of course, banksters only see the money angle and nothing else matters.

You can forget about real estate in the US, it is just bottom bouncing and will continue that way for at least another 5 years. A good chance property taxes will rise as a funding source will be required for all the mismanaged cities and counties, killing any hopes and dreams.

Congress can't even get a stable tax structure in place and they think they can let the Federal Reserve jump start the economy with interest rates approaching 1%, how has that worked out so far (lower interest rates)?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 21, 2012, 05:40:04 AM
Templar: James Kunstler has simlar thoughts in
The Long Emergency. But he likes the Great Lakes
Region because of the lakes and it's distribution
potential. It's a good book, all about the effects
of expensive and declining energy. Maybe folks
buying Detriot real estate for a song are not as
crazy as they seem?
 http://www.kunstler.com/index.php
Great lakes at the lowest levels in a very long time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 21, 2012, 05:46:57 AM
OH I AM SURE THE IDEA BEHIND HTHE BIG PICTURE IS TO FORCE THE POOR OUT OF THE CITY AND BUILD UP A YOUNG MIDDLE CLASS -----CINNCINATI DID IT ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO LEAVING THESE GREAT BEAUTIFUL HOUSES READY FOR RENOVATION

AND WHEN GM DECIDED TO PUT UP A PLANT IN DETROIT/HAMTRAMK----MANY HOME OWNERS WERE FORCED OUT OF HOMES THEY HAD LIVED IN AND KEPT UP FOR HALF A CENTURY AND MANY OF THE HOMES WERE BOUGHT BY POLICE--FIREMEN AND OTHER CITY WORKERS WHO KNEW THWY COULD MAKE A PROFIT---AND THEY DID

IT IS CALLED "THE LAW OF IMMINENT DOMAIN".............


LOL :D
Amazing amount of California prime land owned by civil servants also.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 21, 2012, 06:24:22 AM
Sure, high debt, high taxes will keep anything down.
But states can't print money. All they can do is borrow
until no one will lend and sqweeze taxpayers until they
walk away and get on Greyhound. Eventually, perhaps
very, very eventually the Great Lakes will be marked to
to market. If oil becomes pricy enough shipping and railroads
will cheaper than trucking.  It's kind of poetic isn't it? America's
decline probably began in the Great Lakes with steel. Even from
from the moment the Edmund Fritzgerald circled the drain with
26,000 tons of iron in 1975.
"Strength becomes weakness,
Weakness becomes strength."
Sun Tzu
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 21, 2012, 06:40:14 AM
I just saw on the Belgian news that people are buying electricity generators
I wonder what they plan to do with gasoline operated generators that have to
be filled every four hours and only produce enough to have one fridge running and
the heating pump

I looked into it and I would need a natural gas operated generator costs about 20 000 dollars plus installation
And if they shut down the gas it will not run  ::)
And a diesel operated one costs 30 000 dollars
So for the moment I am just going to buy candles  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 21, 2012, 06:49:12 AM
See, see,  the Great Lakes comeback has already started.  BO wants
to appoint a Detriot person to director of the mint.  :D
 
http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=25775&et_mid=580977&rid=233905117
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 21, 2012, 06:55:10 AM
I got a couple of  oil lamps and two bottles oil.
If you don't have electricity your just screwed
blue until comes back on.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 21, 2012, 07:26:25 AM
I guess we'll have to wear a girdle when we go
outside so the zombies think we're losing weight.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on September 21, 2012, 03:01:01 PM
Speaking of the Great Lakes, for 10 yrs now I've predicted that some screwy judge will cancel the aggreement that the 8 states signed that no one or no entity has the right to 'tap' the Great Lakes for water (outside of drinking water). Sure as heck, the lakes will be tapped 'for the poor draught strickened southwest'.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 21, 2012, 10:37:25 PM
THE COLORADO RIVER ONCE RAN SO MAJESTICALLY THAT IT CARVED OUT THE GRAND CANYON OVER THE YEARS-----NOW IT HAS BEEN TAPPED BY FARMERS--RANCHERS---BUSINESSES TO THE POINT THAT AT THE SOUTHEND OF THE RIVER IT TINKLES DOWN AND MANY OF THE NATURAL WILDLIFE HAS DISAPPEARED.....
NOW THEY ARE TURNING TO THE GREAT LAKES WHICH ARE DOWN NOW ANYWAY......I HOPE THE STATES PREVAIL AND KEEP THE LAKES INTACT----BUT IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME-----THIS YEAR WAS SO WARM IN THE LAKES AREAS THAT MANY OF THE FISH WENT WAY OUT AND WAY DOWN TO FIND COOLER WATER WHICH INTURN WRECKED SOME OF THE FISHING-----COOLER WATR HAS MORE OXYGEN AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES IN A LONG WHILE YOU COULD SWIM IN LAKE SUPERIOR WITH OUT TURNING BLUE
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2012, 02:29:14 AM
The computer total cyclic model says there is a 59% chance the week cycle has finished and the daily cycle is still up for a few days
Gold in euro will probably have the highest monthly closing ever
So I am reckoning with a 4 to 7 week correction


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2012, 02:31:10 AM
The computer total cyclic model says there is a 59% chance the week cycle has finished and the daily cycle is still up for a few days
Gold in euro will probably have the highest monthly closing ever
So I am reckoning with a 4 to 7 week correction


Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 23, 2012, 11:29:19 PM
The general bla bla behind Elliot Wave does not cease to amaze me

Top italian designers are letting the hemline sink below the knees

We all know this means a recession when sex no longer sells

On the contrary beer and whiskey will have good years coming
Drinking instead of sex
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 23, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
GBG went belly up
This is the second time in my life I have a miner going broke on me  ???

This is the second time in my life I have ANY share going broke on me  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 24, 2012, 05:27:15 AM
GBG didn't go broke, they just ran out of money. At $3000 gold they might start up again. At $4000 gold someone might buy them out.

Dumped a lot of HL for some gains. Looking to dump others.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 24, 2012, 06:11:01 AM
I am looking to sell some OGC
I think this is the last week before the correction
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 24, 2012, 06:16:03 AM
GBG didn't go broke, they just ran out of money. At $3000 gold they might start up again. At $4000 gold someone might buy them out.

Dumped a lot of HL for some gains. Looking to dump others.

If they are delisted everywhere will they go to the pink sheets ?
I never had a share that was not listed on a major stockmarket so I have
no experience .
I once made 70% gains on the liquidation of a SA miner because the land was worth that much over the last share price ( which I knew )
I fear GBG management is going to eat and drink the 30 mio loan away and then fail
a second time duh
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 24, 2012, 06:35:58 AM
I believe GBG filed for some sort of bankruptcy. So, you have to wait to see if they reorganize and/or sell off parts of the company to satisfy creditors with court approval, then take it from there. Ending up with a pinksheet listing would be the best worst case scenario.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 24, 2012, 06:39:43 AM
We are already into the correction. Now you have to hope for a bounce or bounces to get out at higher prices. If spot gold does a rolling tops formation then it will be a protracted sell off maybe take months. Of course, as usual, what do I really know?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 25, 2012, 12:15:28 AM
I believe GBG filed for some sort of bankruptcy. So, you have to wait to see if they reorganize and/or sell off parts of the company to satisfy creditors with court approval, then take it from there. Ending up with a pinksheet listing would be the best worst case scenario.

They filed in several countries for some chapter 11 like protection and they are
probably getting 30 mio dollars to close down or find a taker
That is my take
I wrote them down to zero anyways
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 25, 2012, 12:17:27 AM
We are already into the correction. Now you have to hope for a bounce or bounces to get out at higher prices. If spot gold does a rolling tops formation then it will be a protracted sell off maybe take months. Of course, as usual, what do I really know?

I count four stairsteps in gold since being sept
We are still overbought at 80% slow stoch but weakening
Anyway to make the monthly slow stock close above 80% we cannot weaken
much in sept
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 25, 2012, 06:27:28 AM
There have been some mini double tops and starting to work its way down, stairs steps are negated now. Things should be quite until the US elections, at least no upward testing.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 25, 2012, 08:23:20 AM
There have been some mini double tops and starting to work its way down, stairs steps are negated now. Things should be quite until the US elections, at least no upward testing.
Could be the case with gold but suspect silver will do better.
Forming the handle on a cup and handle formation?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 25, 2012, 12:30:31 PM
Tungsten fill gold bars.
 http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=25789&et_mid=581565&rid=233905117
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 26, 2012, 01:46:28 AM
There is a chinese company openly advertising they can goldplate any tungsten form
So it is gold plating instead of pouring or striking
Tungsten has the same density as gold so measuring and weighing do not help
and the tested balance in water method does not work
You need labo conductivity or resonance testing if you do not want to cut bars in half
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 26, 2012, 01:53:36 AM
We are back were summer started
Riots in Greece
Riots in Spain
10 years spanish at 6%
And two failed German auctions that did not raise 10 billion but only like 4 billion

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on September 26, 2012, 04:22:20 AM
AND THE WORLD GOES ROUND AND ROUND----ANDTHE RICH GET RICHER

THE OLD WESTERN MARSHALL, BAT MASTERSON TURNED SPORTS WRITER SUMMED IT UP NICELY--"EVERYONE GETS ICE--THE RICH GET IT IN THE SUMMER AND THE POOR GET IT IN WINTER"..........
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 26, 2012, 06:27:49 AM
Euro banksters will be pushing harder for an Euro Army, as peace keepers, before the crowds come after them.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 26, 2012, 06:44:04 AM
Fort Bragg Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair facing sodomy, other charges (http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2012/09/26/1206780?sac=fo.military)

Quote
A Fort Bragg brigadier general has been charged with forcible sodomy and other offenses involving sex, pornography and alcohol, Army officials said this morning.

"forcible sodomy" ?? Is there any other kind?

Don't ask don't tell was bad enough but now same sex relationships are welcomed in the military. It rots from the inside out,  ruining morale. Probably planned that way.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 26, 2012, 12:52:18 PM
Euro banksters will be pushing harder for an Euro Army, as peace keepers, before the crowds come after them.
Yeah, a private army owned by the golden
sachbags. "We're doing God's work."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2012, 01:59:20 AM
Why junior miners are emptying our pockets like governments do

http://www.vette350.com/2012/09/rick-rule-on-gold-silver-and-why-junior.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Vette350sJuniorMiningBlog+%28Vette350%27s+Junior+Mining+Blog%29
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2012, 04:23:46 AM
I said I was waiting to sell some more
Some of my miners went up 5% today
Games people play : I am still waiting to sell more
Sometimes I am very good very short term
This may be one of those rare cases
Monthly slow stoch dead on its feet till end of month
Weekly slow stock dead till the end of the week
Daily slow stoch and momo having one more go before we correct

I will take momo 39 to tell me when to sell
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 27, 2012, 06:56:57 AM
Maybe miners gaining favor. End of month trading usually takes them down. Still watching for lower highs.

Fundamentally, I would expect regular market to sell off in October dragging miners down in the ensuing downdraft. Plunge Protection Team should step in and support the markets before any panic sets in.

If the dollar gets in the .77 area, I would want to go back to all stocks.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 27, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
Is silver going to become a "stop loss" to fake gold
bars? If you buy a fake 10 ounce bar of silver you
only lose $300-$400 instead of 18k?
 http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Hedge-Funds-Bullish-on-Silver-as-Hoard-Nears-3900211.php
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2012, 11:48:03 PM
These days I think it is not wise to buy anything bigger then one ounce stamped coins
They are not fakeable at a profit
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2012, 01:58:53 AM
I read

Helio mercury going into sagi so watch out 8 to 15 october for a double top or new high
Full moon on saturday etc etc

I say
Monthly slow stoch are free to fall like a brick come monday
which means weekly have to fall as a brick
which means 15 week and 11 months cycles are ended

If not ; review the situation lol

I am reviewing the situation , can a villain be a villain whole his life ...
Famous ending song in Oliver Twist musical
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 28, 2012, 02:17:32 AM
One fine day when math wins, Bernanke
will tell us we're in the middle of sewage
creek with no means forward locomotion.  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2012, 02:39:20 AM
You mean up shitcreek without a paddle ?

I sold my last rest positions I wanted to sell in this cycle for 3% better then yesterday
Yet again my ultimate moment39 indicator told me yesterday a better day was coming
today . Unfortunately that mastermoment39v only works for a few days at the end of each 15 week cycle . When it says GO then I switch to 5 minutes stoch and 1 minute macd
If monday were not the first it would have been a better day accordi
ng to mm39v

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 28, 2012, 04:44:30 AM
E
You mean up shitcreek without a paddle ?

Yes. Caused by quantum interdictions incompatible
with green shoots enhancment.  You gotta say it like
a fed chief.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2012, 05:42:33 AM
As long as you sold into the move up, I guess, is the important thing. I was still selling HL when people where buying, yesterday. Only a core position left in that one (it does pay meager %)  and some in the money options.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2012, 07:14:31 AM
Well I got 18% cash and two full positions
NGD and OGC
one brooke
the others dismal

But 3500 gold is going to make this good lol
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 28, 2012, 07:51:59 AM
More tales from the hookah pipe:
 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/Davos2012/idUSBRE88R12Z20120928?irpc=932
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 28, 2012, 05:09:02 PM
http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/Gold%2019%20Year%20Correction%2009-25-2012.pdf

From this page...http://www.martinarmstrong.org/economic_projections.htm

Also, Norcini's opinion as he marks out both the high and low possibilities...

http://www.traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/

Going to be an interesting coming week. Spot gold put on a higher high so the move up may not be over.

I've been concentrating on selling HL and some NGD for profits. My other miners weren't worth selling at this time.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2012, 12:23:52 AM
Gold forecasting at this point is relatively simply

90% possibility we correct in oct-nov and the slow stoch high is over for the 11 month cycle
9%  possibility we go on till feb and the slow stoch stays over 80% and we extend by
5.5 month
1% possibility the world is changed

All indications are the 22 month cycle is still on time
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2012, 12:32:36 AM
cot is at extremes which prob means we correct next week

(http://snalaska.com/cot/current/charts/GC.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2012, 12:42:17 AM
Also total cyclic HUI says 29 market days of consolidation

(http://wl4.wealth-lab.com/cgi-bin/WealthLab.DLL/chart?chartname=Chart57&rand=48443)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on September 29, 2012, 12:34:26 PM
Interesting that Euro-gold is at all time highs. Isn't it?  Does it break out or pull back down?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 29, 2012, 11:59:43 PM
Interesting that Euro-gold is at all time highs. Isn't it?  Does it break out or pull back down?

It is breaking out as well as the Swiss gold is at all time highs
Once the dollar is fried dollar gold will be at all times highs too
This will happen as soon as people forget about grease and spain
Consolidation in dollars will happen now as well as a retest of the breakout
in euro and swissie
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2012, 12:00:51 AM
Some week end fun

82 year nun fools uncle sam

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-29/us-nuclear-fort-knox-cracked-82-year-old-nun
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 30, 2012, 12:01:45 AM
Banksters are buggered by announced sodomy

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-28/cyber-attacks-on-u-s-banks-expose-computer-vulnerability.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 01, 2012, 04:27:11 AM
Sounds like they found a new excuse for being broke.
Odd, isn't it, that the "attacks"  happened to the three
biggest assholes?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on October 01, 2012, 05:49:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tikrIVNS-jk&list=FL4z74WD1EexQCEdbCn2ckrA&feature=mh_lolz
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 01, 2012, 09:32:09 PM
We have a new law that houses being build from 2016 on have to be energy neutral

First means is isolating so much that you get sick in your own bacteria cause there is no more natural ventilation you have to provide regular forced ventilation

Second means is coupling a decent isolation with heat pumps and solar panels

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 01, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
We have a new law that houses being build from 2016 on have to be energy neutral

First means is isolating so much that you get sick in your own bacteria cause there is no more natural ventilation you have to provide regular forced ventilation

Second means is coupling a decent isolation with heat pumps and solar panels



Vladimir Lenin      Born:  April 22, 1870
Earth day        Founded:  April 22, 1970
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Templar on October 02, 2012, 04:19:36 AM
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IGLOOS OF THE INUITS ARE GERM FREE AND BACTERIA FREE---APPARENTLY THE MATERIALS THEY USE TO MAKE THEIR IGLOOS IS VERY PURE AND THEY AVOID YELLOW ICE AT ALL TIME ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 02, 2012, 05:39:58 AM
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IGLOOS OF THE INUITS ARE GERM FREE AND BACTERIA FREE---APPARENTLY THE MATERIALS THEY USE TO MAKE THEIR IGLOOS IS VERY PURE AND THEY AVOID YELLOW ICE AT ALL TIME ??? ??? ???

Problem is our belgians want 21C inside and and outhouse inside lol
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on October 02, 2012, 09:13:13 AM
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE IGLOOS OF THE INUITS ARE GERM FREE AND BACTERIA FREE---APPARENTLY THE MATERIALS THEY USE TO MAKE THEIR IGLOOS IS VERY PURE AND THEY AVOID YELLOW ICE AT ALL TIME ??? ??? ???

Problem is our belgians want 21C inside and and outhouse inside lol

 :D :D :D
Yes, ventilation.

Nenner saying gold buy this week?
Armstrong gold pivot week?
Tomorrow suppose to be big pivot day in Market - two other sources.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on October 02, 2012, 05:26:16 PM
Elections and the political status quo is preferred even though either candidate ends with more of the same debt problems (SS, Medi-Care, Pensions) which could be solved with 'austerity' at the cost of growth but that is not the real problem is it?  It is banks being kept solvent because of their derivative portfolios that will never recover no matter how much money you shovel their way.

Besides, the puppet masters don't want to have to retrain a bunch of monkeys coming in with a new administration but they would, just a minor inconvenience.

Gold looks a bit overextended. Either swings wild tomorrow and then goes sideways for a month or down while the manipulators show the markets what big muscles they have.

Watch the US$ chart, it is the only thing that matters when falling off a cliff.

I prefer the 2 year correction mode which would end around the middle of next year and wash out all the 'maybe' and 'new' players in metals. From there, it would be panic after panic buying in metals until either the banking system collapses or a permanent fix is found.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 02, 2012, 09:16:26 PM
A lot of soothsayers think gold goes down shortterm and maybe they are right

In the meantime it is more of the same old

In grease a cd resurfaced with 2000 rich people that have their money in switzerland
Grease is trying to talk the Swissies into taxing them on boths sides. The troika gets
coffee and other things slung at their heads and they were driven from their working offices yet again : this time by municipal workers that forgot to pay their taxes and are afraid of the collector

Holland is said to be short of electricity to this winter

Belgium in a lot of silence toke early tax on pension savers
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 02, 2012, 11:50:54 PM
Looks like someone is making a movie about
alternative currency, and presumbly the
landscape that will exist when we're done dancing
the Zimbabwe Bop.
 http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=25811&et_mid=582826&rid=233905117
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 03, 2012, 12:54:29 AM
Quote: In the mean time it's more of the same
old.

The gullitone is the only thing that ever reformed
the status quo.

"Reform" is the most farcical word ever invented.
If someone or something was willing to reform
they wouldn't be in a position needing to be reformed
in the first place.  "Reform" is really appeasment
until no one is looking anymore.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on October 03, 2012, 01:16:39 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9585098/Al-Qaeda-blamed-for-Europe-wide-forest-fires.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9585098/Al-Qaeda-blamed-for-Europe-wide-forest-fires.html)

IF Saudi Arabia was bombed these attacks would end. Why countries appease these people is beyond me.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 04, 2012, 12:10:54 AM
Iran now has a slight inflation of 59% for the last MONTH
They bought Turkey gold
Why the Turks would sell gold is beyond me

On the other hand all money exchangers are put in jail
Even those that only sell dollars
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 04, 2012, 01:04:42 AM
Same thing has been going on in Argentina.
They're even using dog's to sniff out black
market dollars.
 http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/070912-617562-argentinian-dollar-ban-will-not-work-because-it-contradicts-markets.htm
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 04, 2012, 05:51:48 AM
Turkey just voted a law they can invade Syria whenever they want because
a mortar shell killed 5 Turks
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on October 04, 2012, 07:01:49 AM
This sums up the banksters...
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 04, 2012, 11:29:23 PM
This sums up the banksters...

An article in the belgian press sums up the problem

There are too many bankers and they get too much money for their services lol
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 04, 2012, 11:30:20 PM
On the other hand the battle for not aiding grease goes on

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-04/imf-won-t-disburse-greek-loan-if-debt-not-sustainable.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: whadda on October 05, 2012, 05:21:55 AM
Trying to stick with the program here. Charts say markets ripe for a sell off but could travel sideways, at least the miners could.

Manipulators have oil prices under control (California having supply problems) and spot gold, so far, probably to influence the US elections. US$ barely hanging in there. With all this manipulation it shows up there in the dollar.

I was in Mexico again for the dentist and filled up for about $3.00 a gallon, my ATM bank card actually gives me the best rate on the dollar/peso exchange so I use that instead of cash.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 05, 2012, 07:20:37 AM
 More on Tungsten fakes.
 http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=25824&et_mid=583407&rid=233905117
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 06, 2012, 12:06:59 AM
And a sprinkling of todays good news

Turkish army shells neighbors army
12 000 striking miners fired by Amplat
Amazingly the Canary Islands top vacationing spot year around asks Spain for handout
Somebody opined that 65 plussers should no longer be allowed to vote

Slow stochs are an amazing tool
If the price of gold should stay the same for whole the month they will have daily and weekly of 50% and may have corrected enough on a monthly scale
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 06, 2012, 06:46:32 AM
Over here the bumcrats look for job security by
trying to get 65 plusers on food stamps. One of
their ideas is to put images of old time movie stars on the
Food Stamp debit cards.  Like Edward G. Robinson
starring in Soylent Green? ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 08, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
I toke a day off and look the world is the same

It just was leaked that Holland and Philips and Heineken etc have prepared a plan for
a Grexit
Part of the plan is now transferring all excess capital out of greece
Holland acknowledges the plan and says they kept it confidential not to excite people

Lagarde of the IMF knows more about dressing and sunbathing then the IMF report
that just was issued

Belgium has given tax breaks on sunpannels for years and subsidies etc
They just stopped all of those
And now the electricity distributors want about 200 euro per year for taking the excess
energy and distributing it

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 08, 2012, 09:18:45 PM
(http://www.goldseiten.de/bilder/upload/gs5072b68f397e5.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 08, 2012, 09:27:22 PM
and courtesy of Sinclair

(http://www.jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/clip_image003_thumb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 09, 2012, 06:52:14 AM
Merkel is urging greasers to maintain austerity
to stay in the Euro.

Err, 'cuse me angie but doesn't something have
to actually exist first in order for it to be maintained?

I'm telling you she's in a pocket.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 10, 2012, 12:47:12 AM
Some are getting wise to the fact Germany wants to rule Europe
But they got the oldest average population of Europe rapidly catching up with Japan

Belgium has city elections next sunday
The traditional parties could loose a lot of votes in Flanders but
not enough to not get 50.1% with three parties ( socialists, liberals, christians)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 10, 2012, 01:47:39 AM
The ones who aren't aged are getting pretty uppity.
 http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-08-14/news/33204040_1_neo-nazi-group-flash-mobs-immortals
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 10, 2012, 03:51:11 AM
Not very uplifting.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFnqyWHYH4I
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 10, 2012, 08:10:43 PM
Sinclair called the world a few years ago a trainwreck in slow motion

The neos are also getting strong in grease

I just read that the entire GDP of ireland goes to interest payments
Sustainable  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 11, 2012, 11:22:03 PM
The weekly correction is only starting

The daily correction already finished a high level consolidation
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 16, 2012, 08:51:24 AM
Tengo un corazon mutilado de esperanza y de razon
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 16, 2012, 08:30:48 PM
Tengo un corazon mutilado de esperanza y de razon

The reason why my heart is mutilated by hope and reason is the german ewoofers
view on gold in euro
Why oh why is Elliot not still alive to tell those morons they do not understand him ?

http://www.goldseiten.de/artikel/151936--Gold-in-Euro---Es-geht-los.html

(http://www.goldseiten.de/bilder/upload/gs507d3f0092c17.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 17, 2012, 02:32:34 AM
What's the chart saying?  That the Euro will climb and
then tank?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 17, 2012, 05:51:23 AM
What's the chart saying?  That the Euro will climb and
then tank?

Nope chart says gold will drop 15% in euro before it can go up  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 17, 2012, 08:13:47 AM
Thanks August. I wasn't sure if gold was dropping
beause the Euro was going to get stronger. It seems
like it would for a little while if they got Spain off the
front pages.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 17, 2012, 08:19:05 AM
I was going to watch the debate last night between
Robama and Obamney but I had to clip my toe nails.

Did anyone watch it?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on October 17, 2012, 08:42:04 AM
Watch what? I was being entertained by the amount of navel fuzz my navel held.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 17, 2012, 11:08:07 PM
I saw it on Tv
They should have given both a pair of boxing gloves
Would have made it more realistic then this rooster prancing for a hen
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 17, 2012, 11:11:39 PM
Meanwhile France if giving off clear signals

First Monnaie de Paris is no longer trying to be original or give nice designs
They just crank out gold coins overpriced in too large amounts

They struck 2000 coins of 5000 euro face at an odd 75 grams
and used the old Hercules silver design as far as I can tell

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 17, 2012, 11:23:45 PM
Finally the French film industry made a 2011 film I saw yesterday
L Apollonide

It is all about La maison close
( Literally keylocked house )

It is about the last super de luxe whore house in Paris anno 1900
The madam rents the house from a notary to bring up her two children
She got 9 filles ( whores )
The splendor is unimaginable ( debauchery ) like drinking liters of Champagne from a circulating pisspot in gold. One of the guests has a black cheetah on a leash .
One of the guests makes love in a bathtub full of champagne
One of the girls gets her face cut up with a knife
One dies of syphillis
These girls are all in debt because the clothes and perfume cost more then madam pays
The law prohibits them from going out alone so they are really enslaved because of their
debts

Finally the business goes under because of new girls offering their services in the street
at a fraction of the price

The final scene is anno 2000 where a car deposits a working girl on the street corner
And one wanders if 2000 is really better and more civilized as 1900
I think it is not
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 18, 2012, 01:39:18 AM
It sounds like a fractal version of western "civilization."
But at least someone made a movie without vampires
in it.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 18, 2012, 01:44:46 AM
Does it have English sub-titles?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 18, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
Does it have English sub-titles?

In Belgium they subtitle everything in flemish even dutch films

So I guess if it is available in the US it will be subtitled

I wonder whether the apollonide really existed because the clients give paper money
and in return they get tookens with the name apollonide on them with which they pay the girls which then return them to madam for a bookmark against their names
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 18, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
It sounds like a fractal version of western "civilization."
But at least someone made a movie without vampires
in it.

The real problem was censure
You cannot make a film like this with all the girls clothed up to their neck
So that had to figure out how to make it realistic without getting in the XXX category
They managed very convincingly
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 18, 2012, 10:04:13 PM
Spain proposes a law to forbid free journalism when the police is involved

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-18/spain-proposes-law-prohibiting-recording-and-capturing-local-cops-action
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 18, 2012, 10:45:56 PM
Spain proposes a law to forbid free journalism when the police is involved

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-18/spain-proposes-law-prohibiting-recording-and-capturing-local-cops-action

They should outsource that to the yellow dogs
over here.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 19, 2012, 12:29:21 AM
So Angie went to Grease last week? What for, to pick  up her check?    ;D
 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-13/after-starting-riots-greece-merkel-booed-germany-next
 
Oh yeah doesn't sound  like the Germans, most
of whom actually work, are in the mood to sponsor
the lives of greasers.  Germans boo-ed her for 14
minutes. You should hear those krauts booing.
They're better than House of Lords.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 22, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
If october was going to mark the start of a new 11 months cycle
then october had to be a boring sideways/down month for gold
Sofar it has been all that
Only november first will tell if we get a second month of boredom
The monthly slow stochs have to be below 80% to have a chance at
a renewed hausse
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 22, 2012, 12:58:34 AM
I finally got my wifes hospital bill

State picked up 20 000 euro cost
Legal insurance picked up like 3500 euro
My share 1800 euro which I forwarded to my extra legal insurance

No more scheduled visits with the hospital ; I told them we liked other specialists better
We are now on a 6 months scheduled check up with the specialist of our choice which
is unaffiliated and does not make 100 000 euro from an open heart operation or any kick back or any brownee points
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 22, 2012, 11:06:59 PM
Good for you August! You beat the socialist zombies.   ;)

Now could you come over here  and run for president?
It's okay, you don't really have to be a  native.  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 23, 2012, 02:58:25 AM
Good for you August! You beat the socialist zombies.   ;)

Now could you come over here  and run for president?
It's okay, you don't really have to be a  native.  :D

I have one problem
I hate to make impossible promises  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 23, 2012, 03:02:32 AM
I looked at the slow stoch charts

First the monthly is correcting nicely
Second I have the beginning of a series 12-13-14 months as first in the 22 months cycle
the second been shortening
My best guess is that the 11 months cycle is being hyper manipulated but the 22 months
is holding well
In view of all this I make my next high June 2013 or maybe May
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 23, 2012, 03:07:20 AM
The weekly cycle is already down to 20% and oversold
It is clear now that the nominal 15 week cycle was not present but its harmonic of 30 weeks
was present
Here again the shorter periods seem to easy to manipulate
and forecasting is going to by very difficult

On the other forum people prognosticated shorter cycles
To me they are getting longer in preparation of the hyperbolic were time will be
squeezed
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 23, 2012, 03:12:59 AM
Of course the daily is and stays oversold

I think I am going to hybernate till may-june unless there is a black swan
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 24, 2012, 03:24:42 AM
Tales from the hookah pipe:
 http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-24/draghi-says-bond-purchases-won-t-fuel-inflation-hit-taxpayer.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 24, 2012, 04:27:18 AM
Ford announced today they close their belgian factory
There go about 10 000 jobs
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 24, 2012, 06:03:21 AM
You would think Ford would add  hiring after all
the "un-expected" good news we're getting every
15 minutes about the U.S economy. I guess we'll
get the expected news after the election.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 24, 2012, 06:15:57 AM
You would think Ford would add  hiring after all
the "un-expected" good news we're getting every
15 minutes about the U.S economy. I guess we'll
get the expected news after the election.

Ford loses one billion a year here in Europe
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on October 24, 2012, 08:25:40 AM
Hmmm, it seems that they might need a tax write-off in the U S A.....good thinking.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 24, 2012, 09:28:52 PM
German government wants gold to return to Germany

Surprise
two thirds of the UK stored gold was socalled take back in 2001 allready

I would not be surprised if large amounts ended up outside of Europe during those days
UK was selling like mad
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 24, 2012, 09:30:30 PM
Looks more then a Head and shoulder then a cup but I will settle for any of the two

(http://www.goldseiten.de/bilder/upload/gs50867ed1e434c.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 29, 2012, 01:28:15 AM
Lord Bitch says all pensioned people should work for their pension ( during their pension)


I say Lord Bitch and all other Lords should work plowing 9 months a year before their pension or vacation in the Tower of London


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/26/pensions-technocrats-lord-bichard
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 29, 2012, 10:46:38 AM
Like some  pus-ass lord knows anything about working.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 29, 2012, 01:02:33 PM
Me Lord Bichard, if you want to restore global
competitiveness: cut taxes, cut regulations,
deport your illegals, get rid of your social and
corporate welfare bums, and arrest bankers
gliding through the yardarms singing "yo-ho-ho."
Then increase your GDP by actually getting a job
yourself. Helpful hint- being a lord or civil serpent
isn't really work except to those who have to clean
up the mess. Oh, could you pass this on to our
"sheppards," "cobblers," and "crafters," in the
District of Coackroaches.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on October 29, 2012, 02:05:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD77qJTZQSU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb3uCCjH9G0
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 29, 2012, 09:44:55 PM
Ford has set aside 77 000 euro on average per sacked employee and the work is going to go
to Ford Spain were salaries are lower

The Unions are demanding pensions from 50 years onwards

EU is saying they will only help if there are NO early retirments
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 29, 2012, 09:57:48 PM
I spend weeks to select a new computer and it is available in most countries now except
Belgium
I think the problem is that most pc vendors are waiting for win8 since the pc
is sold with a preloaded system and they expect massive interest for win8
( I will downgrade immidiately to win7)

I want i7 with high end nvidia but the main problem is I want a solid state drive
( not an hybrid ) the three requirements together are difficult

None of the Japanese brands have this yet in Belgium
My choice was Toshiba X870-119 but this is not available in Belgium
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 29, 2012, 10:47:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD77qJTZQSU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb3uCCjH9G0

 http://rt.com/news/okhotsk-sea-sailors-missing-418/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on October 31, 2012, 03:45:51 AM
Fussy but the contrast in Prechter/ Schiff interview is a must listen
http://www.schiffradio.com/pg/jsp/charts/audioMaster.jsp;jsessionid=7363B5F5F9800D6BA2836D904430003A?dispid=301&pid=58334&f=NTgzMzQtdHJ1ZS0xMC8zMS8yMDEy
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on October 31, 2012, 06:18:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlRMiNR0t98&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 01, 2012, 05:48:22 AM
10+++++
I liked the way the Imperial Leprechaun had
Eddie Munster hair.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 01, 2012, 12:05:42 PM
On a roll...........
New business czar by Obama could be called the Wesley Mouch position.
See Atlas Shrugged.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 01, 2012, 02:16:47 PM
I read at Daily Reckoning that Ayn Rand didn't like
Anarcho-Libertarians  She referred to them as right
wing hippies. Ungrateful wench.  :D

I hear they're working on part 2 right now.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 02, 2012, 07:49:02 AM
Here's a good one.

 http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-02/rise-in-u-s-unemployment-a-sign-of-growing-worker-confidence.html

Dude, give us some of that $@%& your drinking.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 02, 2012, 10:17:42 AM
Here's a good one.

 http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-02/rise-in-u-s-unemployment-a-sign-of-growing-worker-confidence.html

Dude, give us some of that $@%& your drinking.

I'm an odd duck/ gentle curmudgeon.
From my background many would suspect that I'm a Liberal/ Democrat.
However, I've learned from experience that denying people logical consequences to their behavior is the greatest crime.
Thus for example I believe civil servants (like judges and parole boards...) should be fully liable as an accessory for further crimes of (drunk) murders, sex offenders... and so on, that they give slap on the wrist. Recidivism is easy to predict.
Open season on social engineers and other busy bodies would make wonderful sport.
Consequences will happen with the coming normalization of world economy where people will have to produce something of value or they will starve. Busy body/ social engineer is not productive/ looters.

http://www.bigheadpress.com/
enjoy hours of stories



Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 03, 2012, 12:56:02 AM
Daily and Weekly and Monthly slow stoch are now below 20 %
This meets the necessary criteria for a bottom

But this condition can last for another 6 weeks on the Monthly
So from here till then a bottom will be formed with 98% certainty

Sweet time to view films and persue other interests

I just saw the 2007 film of Edith Piaf ( number 5 or 6 I have seen )
It was a bad idea since I always cry when she dies
I wish they should make one film with her songs and stop at the Olympia concert
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 03, 2012, 05:50:43 AM
Nenner mentioning a low in PM's mid month.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 04, 2012, 01:06:43 AM
Nenner mentioning a low in PM's mid month.

That is possible but the end of the month is statistically more probable

I got enough cash till the june high so I am really not too much vexed with week
to week happenings
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 06, 2012, 04:26:27 PM
David Bensimon said today a lower low in Feb before the really big move
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQcwfys5WA&feature=g-all-u
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 06, 2012, 10:19:54 PM
David Bensimon said today a lower low in Feb before the really big move
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQcwfys5WA&feature=g-all-u


I do not believe that
The 11 months cycle has restarted and feb is too far out for a bottom followed
by a big move
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 07, 2012, 10:08:06 PM
Miners held very well when the general market had a bad day yesterday

It looks that after all the scare tactics in gold they are now trying to put the average
investor to sleep
Gold in dollars bounced of its 200 ema sofar so good

I am just passing time
Saw a Ludlum film yesterday I had not seen before ,
I read most of his books
The Hollcroft Convenant ( very well filmed )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 08, 2012, 06:14:27 AM
Here's Bill Bonner on Capital Account. Not really saying
anything new but Lauren is kind a cute.  ;D
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ9x1RiV6HI
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on November 08, 2012, 08:24:59 AM
CUTE......and no ring. But at around $250K/yr, none of us would have a chance.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 09, 2012, 01:27:31 AM
I am on a computer with no hardware acceleration left and no clock ( it runs backwards)
I am on ADSL which is so slow it will max out at 500 kb per second
Since I expect Armageddon to happen tomorrow ( continuously ) I am using my bandwith

Gold and goldshares look good

Back to my Mogambo Junior Shelter
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 09, 2012, 05:22:56 AM
Keep eye on 233 and 350 DMA on Precious metals. Should be key.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 10, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
Suggestion that Nov 13 could be a buy zone for miners. If we get a gap down will be looking to buy.
Would like to know what Stock people would be looking at.
GG, TLR, CHU.V ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 12, 2012, 05:40:53 AM
Seems whadda has a problem
He no longer sees the reply buttom here
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 12, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
Numismatic News had a article last week about the
medal awarded to Cyrus Field who laid the
 Transatlamtic cable. The medal had 27 ounces of
gold in it. I can't find the internet article but here's
a artical by the same author.
 http://atlantic-cable.com/Field/medal.htm

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 12, 2012, 10:52:46 PM
Numismatic News had a article last week about the
medal awarded to Cyrus Field who laid the
 Transatlamtic cable. The medal had 27 ounces of
gold in it. I can't find the internet article but here's
a artical by the same author.
 http://atlantic-cable.com/Field/medal.htm

Do you mean this one ?

http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid=%270E%2C*PL[%3C%230%20%20%0A
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 12, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
When I heard windows 8 was coming ; I panicked and bought today a win7
i7 , 16 giga ram with Nvidea 3 giga dedicated and an hybrid ssd with 750 giga spinning disk

with win7 of course

Now I will be spending weeks to get my XP programs onto the win7
Not to speak about the missing outlook express etc

I hate computers  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 14, 2012, 02:10:49 AM


I hate computers  ::)
That's why I got a cheapo mobile.   :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 16, 2012, 02:45:18 AM
After like three days I got half of my programs in win7

I just spend two hours on line with a rep of Norton to duplicate most of my
internet protection and passwords to the new computer
Spam blocking transfer was not possible duh
Scan exempts were not transferable duh

I deleted McAfee after four or five wrong deletions of Troyans
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 18, 2012, 04:18:21 PM
Tax season coming up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZX1bvj_z0E
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 18, 2012, 11:22:30 PM
Nothing to get excited about
So I am glad I spend day and night to get that new win7 working
Sofar all programs I have would install
Now I am waiting for the data transfer cable I bought in the UK amazon
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 19, 2012, 01:20:02 AM
Looks like they are going use Sandy to explain away everything. Last week the
Philly Index declined because of...guess
who? Hey maybe it was really Sandy who
stole, sorry made disappear, that billion
dollars from MF Global. Check on that Jon,
maybe Sandy has that money.
 http://mobile.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/11/02/the-economic-impact-of-hurricane-sandy
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 22, 2012, 12:17:38 AM
Today they posted the list of the ten biggest employers in the world
Seven are government
Top on the list is the US army

Sony got degraded to about junk status and Panasonic is not much better

Our gasprices are soon to rise
Tobacco and Booze got raised yesterday

I toke a day off from installing my new computer  ;D :( ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 27, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-27/dimon-would-be-best-treasury-secretary-in-crisis-buffett-says.html
Great idea Warren! I guess  blankfein is still busy "doing God's
work?" What a guy!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 27, 2012, 11:36:26 PM
and the beat goes on

Grease saved for the fourth time
Egypt back to revolt
France to increase tax on beer ( mainly from Belgium)
Belgium to increase tax on artists from 15 to 25%

Tax anybody who still has money and save anybody who got no money

I seem to remember Dagney giving a 100$ bill to a begger who just did not give a damn

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 28, 2012, 04:14:51 AM
and the beat goes on

Grease saved for the fourth time
Egypt back to revolt
France to increase tax on beer ( mainly from Belgium)
Belgium to increase tax on artists from 15 to 25%

Tax anybody who still has money and save anybody who got no money

I seem to remember Dagney giving a 100$ bill to a begger who just did not give a damn


Yes, Atlas Shrugged.
I remember all the lights going out in New York as their plane left.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 29, 2012, 01:07:07 AM
I just read an article with which I totally agree

Old workforce too expensive
New young workforce too lazy

Now up to 40% young idiots are into a pension plan
If hyper inflation comes all these idiots lost their money  :D

They take three days to chose their clothing and 30 seconds to chose their future money plans  :D
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Post by: longnine009 on November 29, 2012, 01:42:10 AM
Think of Asia as the skinny people they are in
a race with the west trying to run with four tires
around them. We don't have a snowball chance
in hell of winning.

I think Dagny also had dinner with a bum in her private
car. I bet that was a kodak moment filled with
fragrance.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 30, 2012, 12:00:28 AM
we had our moment in the sun
now it is the chinese
later the africans
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 03, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
All in all I spend more then 106 hours getting a win7 computer laptop to mimick my old
xp pro laptop whose nvidea melted down
I think I am close to software success now
I will still have to sort out 10 or so harddrives and cables and mains and usb etc
The programs that gave me the hardest time are those I paid for like my wireless router
the free ones were a lot more userfriendly like Mozilla Thunderbird

Well I lost no money and it looks like we have to wait till next year for gold to go up
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Post by: TwoShadows on December 03, 2012, 07:26:10 PM
You guys have no idea how much I am enjoying reading your posts AGAIN! Great to be back! ;)
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 03, 2012, 09:45:36 PM
Did you keep her busy for a month ?  :P
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Post by: TwoShadows on December 04, 2012, 03:38:39 AM
Sure wish that was my problem!!! Hell I just like to keep one busy for a day! Not much luck with the ladies around here and my employer thinks I need to work 7 days a week. I am too old to work all the time! Hope all is well with you and yours.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 04, 2012, 04:47:57 AM
Sure wish that was my problem!!! Hell I just like to keep one busy for a day! Not much luck with the ladies around here and my employer thinks I need to work 7 days a week. I am too old to work all the time! Hope all is well with you and yours.

We are fine again
Thank you
A Belgian survey shows old workers are too expensive so they work them , young workers are cheap and lazy .
Last week I got a call from an headhunter and nearly choked laughing trying to tell
him I was now retired for five years and no longer interested in saying yes boss  :D
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Post by: Templar on December 04, 2012, 05:14:39 AM
WELL IT SEEMS THAT THAT THE COMPANIES ARE NOW REALIZING THAT THERE IS NO PRICE TO COVER GOOD EXPERIENCE-----------WHAT DID IT COST A COMPANY TO GIVE A 30 YEAR EMPLOYEE A GOLD WATCH AND A CHICKEN RETIREMENT DINER------RATHER THAN FORCE SOME WORKER OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE MAKING TOO MUCH AS TO HIRING A BEGINNER WITH MUCH LESS PERKS-------------SO NOW THEY ARE HAVING TO PAY TOP DOLLAR TO TALK A RETIREE INTO COMING BACK TO WORK----AND LIFE GOES ON
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Post by: dharmaeye on December 05, 2012, 03:18:53 AM
firefox security
http://lewrockwell.com/creekmore/creekmore17.1.html
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 05, 2012, 05:01:13 AM
firefox security
http://lewrockwell.com/creekmore/creekmore17.1.html

yes but they forget to tell firefox is also broadcasting language info and system etc
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 23, 2012, 11:43:25 PM
My new computer seems to be finally running (more or less)

So I made the monthly gold charts

The correction is still in full swing with maybe a bottom between now and january

This system is only good timewise for tops ( june 2013)
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Post by: dharmaeye on December 25, 2012, 07:40:49 AM
Very interesting fellow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaaJr8mJbRo
Check out his other ideas on Youtube.
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Post by: dharmaeye on January 06, 2013, 03:51:24 AM
This is why I think their will be major violence in USA/ UPS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL63OFIdIIM
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Post by: dharmaeye on January 08, 2013, 03:44:32 PM
Steph again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYkl3XlEneA
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Post by: longnine009 on January 09, 2013, 01:38:04 AM
Steph again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYkl3XlEneA
I like this guy. I watched his introduction:  Everyday Anarchy.
I going to watch the whole thing 224 minutes. He's a good speaker.
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Post by: dharmaeye on January 14, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
Things are heating up in States, this was just uploaded to youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_Oyz9QW-PX4#!
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Post by: Goose on January 14, 2013, 03:58:01 AM
That video was very good, thanks for posting it.  Me-thinks you'll see something like this (riots-?) in the U S within a year or so.
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Post by: longnine009 on January 14, 2013, 04:21:11 AM
I wonder how long it will stay there. I watched universal
absurdity-an adaptation of Harrison Bergeron. They took
took that sucker down within a few hours.
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Post by: longnine009 on January 14, 2013, 04:24:49 AM
Has anyone talked to August lately?
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Post by: dharmaeye on January 14, 2013, 01:24:28 PM
I wonder how long it will stay there. I watched universal
absurdity-an adaptation of Harrison Bergeron. They took
took that sucker down within a few hours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmEOI5zwFMM&list=PL7E455A7EB1217E29
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 18, 2013, 08:42:16 PM
Hi fellows I am back

I made the mistake of reconstructing my game on which the old computer crashed
and just finished it in 5 more days and then started modding
I already have like 100 mods installed ( the eternal collector I am )

I just looked at the gold charts and it looks like the bottom is in and we go for that june
high so I have another 5 months of gaming and modding

I saw a funny sig line in a modders forum
If you wanna get laid crawl up a chickens ass and wait  :D :D :D
Maybe someone should tell twoshadows  :P
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Post by: longnine009 on January 19, 2013, 02:19:02 AM
Welcome back August. I watched a good good gaming movie
last week-The Challenge. The U.S and china both put a man
on an island to fight to the death instead of the two countries
fighting a war with each other. Of course the movie was in 1970,
long before we became china's bitch.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Lzg2mWwPk
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 19, 2013, 06:21:56 AM
Welcome back August. I watched a good good gaming movie
last week-The Challenge. The U.S and china both put a man
on an island to fight to the death instead of the two countries
fighting a war with each other. Of course the movie was in 1970,
long before we became china's bitch.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Lzg2mWwPk

A few months ago I saw the Hunger Games ( frightening )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Games_%28film%29
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Post by: dharmaeye on January 27, 2013, 04:46:58 AM
Gold and stock bottom this coming week?
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2013, 06:17:50 AM
I am no good at bottoms
Only tops for june or so  ???
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 29, 2013, 07:44:42 PM
Whilst Holland gets a new king Europe booked a victory against genetically modified horrors

BASF is giving up trying to introduce GMMO potatoes
Long ago Monsanto made a film of some GMMO potatoes in a tank full of colorado scarabs that were
dying of hunger yuck but sadly soya made it and there is no nametag on the millions of soyabeans
that come on a ship in Ghent harbor and the TV adds for healthy soya milk et al
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Post by: longnine009 on January 30, 2013, 12:00:07 AM
I often hope that joggers stinking up the side walk
with their BO are on the way home to have a nice
soy protein drink.
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Post by: Triggersmob on January 30, 2013, 10:21:34 AM
Unemployment in Spain at just over 26%.
I think they are going down fast.
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Post by: Goose on January 30, 2013, 03:04:24 PM
Greece and India aren't doing too well also.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 30, 2013, 11:53:09 PM
Unemployment in Spain at just over 26%.
I think they are going down fast.


spain biggest problem is all the homeowners loans they gave to everybody
there is a complete new city without a single inhabitant
they got what every bank in the world deserves
delinquent loans
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Post by: longnine009 on January 31, 2013, 12:44:12 AM
 Spanish bankers talking to their shirt pockets
haven't gone insane, they're just chating with
Angela.   ;D
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Post by: longnine009 on January 31, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
Ireland doesn't have a zombie czar so they had to take a
 swig from the jar and eat their losses. Now investors
 are tripping over themselves to buy Ireland.
 http://dailyreckoning.com/ireland-on-sale/

Yo, Bernanke, it's called Capitalism!
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 31, 2013, 11:24:16 PM
A beach home in spain is now half price

and to say the biggest bubble of them all the bond bubble has still to bust
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Post by: longnine009 on February 01, 2013, 08:01:46 AM
ref: bond bubble has stiill to burst

 It might not be far away. Banksters  are pretending to be humble and
modest all of sudden about their bonuses.  As if they know there's
some snap, crackle and pop on the way and they're going to need the
zombie czar to unload their shit bombs on taxpayers.

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Post by: longnine009 on February 01, 2013, 09:26:12 AM
ref: bond bubble has stiill to burst

 It might not be far away. Banksters  are pretending to be humble and
modest all of sudden about their bonuses.  As if they know there's
some snap, crackle and pop on the way and they're going to need the
zombie czar to unload their shit bombs on taxpayers.

Oh how did I did I forget this. Apparently JP Morgan cottons
to Capitalism now. Good to be flexible or maybe they're hoping
to go bottom feeding soon?
 http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-22/jamie-dimon-laments-too-big-to-fail-give-me-a-break.html
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 01, 2013, 11:53:22 PM
Holland nationalises its 4th biggest broke bank
And the beat goes on ...

I disagree with whadda who thinks they can push the can down the road till 2020
I think 2017 is the end of the road to kick the can
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Post by: dharmaeye on February 02, 2013, 11:34:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ_xq-eDJTI
Also, only 10 of the S&P500 have growth - the rest rely on accounting games.
Noticed last month South Korea's exports have plunged for years and they have many of the best quality items to export.
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Post by: longnine009 on February 04, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
I'm getting problem with the network 404 whatever
that means.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2013, 12:15:45 AM
I'm getting problem with the network 404 whatever
that means.

This is a joke on the pirate bay


Not Found (aka 404)

You're looking for something that does not, has not, will not, might not or must not exist ...

... but you're always welcome to search for it.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 07, 2013, 12:21:43 AM
Big news for all stamp collectors

Belgium issued a 5 stamp collection dedicated to chocolate ( the theme )
On top of that they imbibed the top varnish with chocolate so the stamp smells like chocolate
And if that were not enough they put 5% chocolate in the glue so that if you lick the stamp
it tastes like chocolate

Strictly limited edition half a million only  :D :D :D
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Post by: Templar on February 07, 2013, 04:19:27 AM
WELL THE US SHOULD COPY BELGIUM BUT MAKE THE STAMPS EDIBLE....

JUST THINK----IF YOU EAT THEM THE POST OFFICE MAKES A CLEAR PROFIT AND YOU COULD PUT AN EXPIRATION DATE ON THEM SO THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP BUYING NEW ONES.......

   YOU COULD HAVE:.....JALAPENA FLAVOR
                                   BBQ FLAVORED
                                   VANILLA FLAVORED
                                   PIZZA FLAVORED
                                   CITRUS FLAVORED
WHY ITS ENDLESS---FLAVORS OF THE MONTH----SEASON----OCCASIONS..................AS I TYPE THIS OUT SOMEONE IS ALREADY TRYING TO MAKE IT AND WILL NET A MILLION ON MY IDEA----ITS A CRAZY WORLD MY FELLOW KNIGHTS
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Post by: dharmaeye on February 07, 2013, 05:05:50 AM
I've avoided miners for many years.
Tentatively first week in April looks amazing.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 08, 2013, 02:18:17 AM
I've avoided miners for many years.
Tentatively first week in April look amazing.

Alamos is trying to buy my Aurizon mines for 15% extra
They are clever but I am not selling  :D 8) :P
I have been waiting for 4 years now on serious bids on my miners and
am not going to sell them for peanuts
300% or no deal
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Post by: longnine009 on February 10, 2013, 07:55:40 AM
Interesting take on zombie movies.
 http://dailyanarchist.com/2013/01/21/political-message-of-the-rising-zombie/#more-7566
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2013, 08:41:37 AM
An immense Europe wide scandal started in the UK
They found out some supermarkets are selling beef lasagne which
in reality contains horse meat of like 70 000 horses killed in Bulgaria or was it Romania
French and Germans joined in the ruckus etc
In Belgium french fries with stew meat are always horse meat so we do not cringe
except we are swindled by the price since horse meat is cheaper
Now they are removing those lasagne from the supermarkets so those horses
died for nothing

In unrelated news it is claimed that Europe is jealous of the USA and going
to have the first black pope from Ghana I think

Why is it that only Chinese look like Chinese these days
 
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2013, 09:21:43 PM
Monnaie de Paris is running late and lazy
They are now issuing a 2012 programmed coin
with the old old coloring technique
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
And our Carr did a lot better on the medal reverse then this
team of like 36 people imho
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2013, 09:28:05 PM
The first 2013 on snowboarding is as uninspired imo
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 12, 2013, 09:33:11 PM
And a non circulation set with the special 2 euro Elysee

Needless to say I am not spending money
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Post by: longnine009 on February 12, 2013, 10:43:33 PM


In unrelated news it is claimed that Europe is jealous of the USA and going
to have the first black pope from Ghana I think
 

Now how cool is  that! We can all go down together, presumbly consumed by zombies.
 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-EUg_hkbZR0&ei=fHobUdDwCMTR2QW64ICYAQ&usg=AFQjCNHUGiiBse_fVjGcpNgsXZa39Uxgrg
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Post by: longnine009 on February 13, 2013, 12:02:02 AM
And our Carr did a lot better on the medal reverse then this
team of like 36 people imho
Over here thirty-six would require a czar as well.
 State group-think's  "finest hour."   ;D
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 14, 2013, 09:03:44 AM


In unrelated news it is claimed that Europe is jealous of the USA and going
to have the first black pope from Ghana I think
 

Now how cool is  that! We can all go down together, presumbly consumed by zombies.
 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-EUg_hkbZR0&ei=fHobUdDwCMTR2QW64ICYAQ&usg=AFQjCNHUGiiBse_fVjGcpNgsXZa39Uxgrg

Malachy is a new one to me
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 23, 2013, 11:50:59 PM
Are you on vacation longnine ?

MDP is getting lazier and greedier by the day
2013 Hercules coin at 17 grams and 1000 euro face sold for 1100 in discount stores
I have one of the 99 trial strikes from way back  :D :D :D
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 23, 2013, 11:52:28 PM
I am still not used to thunderbird only copying one part of the pic
This should be the reverse
Strike number 7500 coins
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Post by: dharmaeye on February 25, 2013, 12:51:12 PM
I am still not used to thunderbird only copying one part of the pic
This should be the reverse
Strike number 7500 coins

Beautiful

Crash?
http://www.theuptrend.com/157StocksToDumpOnTuesday.htm
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Post by: longnine009 on February 25, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Are you on vacation longnine ?

MDP is getting lazier and greedier by the day
2013 Hercules coin at 17 grams and 1000 euro face sold for 1100 in discount stores
I have one of the 99 trial strikes from way back  :D :D :D
No I'm still here. I've been trying to figure out
a new and different mobile I just bought. I did
find another site  that hosting the film Universial
Absurdity 2081  aka Harrison Bergeron.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xweayp_2081-universal-absurdity_shortfilms#.USvi2pRaqXM
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Post by: longnine009 on February 26, 2013, 12:19:47 AM
Since Benanke's  legion of louts are already
burying gold bugs, here's some inspiration.
http://bybethanyjae.com/dont-lose-sleep-over-the-opinion-of-sheep/
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Post by: dharmaeye on February 26, 2013, 03:10:15 AM
Are you on vacation longnine ?

MDP is getting lazier and greedier by the day
2013 Hercules coin at 17 grams and 1000 euro face sold for 1100 in discount stores
I have one of the 99 trial strikes from way back  :D :D :D
No I'm still here. I've been trying to figure out
a new and different mobile I just bought. I did
find another site  that hosting the film Universial
Absurdity 2081  aka Harrison Bergeron.

Tanks!
Wonderful - love Kurt Vonnegut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-hEfqpxIg

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xweayp_2081-universal-absurdity_shortfilms#.USvi2pRaqXM
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Post by: longnine009 on February 26, 2013, 04:27:31 AM
What's he doing now, laying on hands?
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-26/bernanke-defends-asset-purchases-as-benefits-outweigh-risks.html
"walk!"
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Post by: longnine009 on February 26, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
Back Yard mint

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDIQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAA584XBkP0s&ei=2W8tUcWoIMn-qAGou4CABQ&usg=AFQjCNHcdGGv4Z1UIgOVvH46tCkNvSdt3Q
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 28, 2013, 08:00:42 AM
What is the added value of a coin over a blank of the same weight

Except that it is recognizable
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Post by: longnine009 on February 28, 2013, 08:58:55 AM
I bought a one  gram card off bay. If I like it I'm going
to stock up a bit. Remember last year i was trying to
buy a one Bitcioin card from Amazon? At that  time a
  Bitcioin was trading for $5 on Mt Gox. Take a look now.
https://mtgox.com/
Coke heads must be doing a lot of buying at silk road.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 28, 2013, 09:07:40 AM
I bought a one  gram card off bay. If I like it I'm going
to stock up a bit. Remember last year i was trying to
buy a one Bitcioin card from Amazon? At that  time a
  Bitcioin was trading for $5 on Mt Gox. Take a look now.
https://mtgox.com/
Coke heads must doing  a lotvof buying at Silk Road.
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Post by: dharmaeye on March 01, 2013, 05:38:37 AM
Spot silver touching 900 DMA. This is VERY significant either way.
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Post by: Goose on March 01, 2013, 08:13:03 AM
I know what A M A is, what D N A is, and A A A is, but what is D M A? And what does 900 designate?
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Post by: longnine009 on March 01, 2013, 09:35:31 AM
http://tradingsim.com/blog/displaced-moving-average/
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Post by: dharmaeye on March 01, 2013, 12:33:59 PM
I know what A M A is, what D N A is, and A A A is, but what is D M A? And what does 900 designate?

Daily moving average
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 03, 2013, 08:33:12 AM
I know what A M A is, what D N A is, and A A A is, but what is D M A? And what does 900 designate?

Daily moving average

I only use ema ( exponential moving averages in day and week and month frames )
and have several years back put a dozen moving averages on the chart of which 900 days is the longest
In euro silver is way above 900 but way below 500
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 03, 2013, 12:06:12 PM
Junk silver, US and Canuk, is still going for rather large premium on ebay.
Bought a 1984 $10 Olympics eagle proof set for a good price - hope I receive it. The irony of 1984... was not lost on me.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 05, 2013, 05:12:16 AM
http://s1270.beta.photobucket.com/user/hermit_the_surly/media/CAM00035.jpg.html

http://s1270.beta.photobucket.com/user/hermit_the_surly/media/CAM00037.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 05, 2013, 09:18:35 AM
In the 1980's
the smallest goldbar was called a feather bar at 5 grams
and 15% over gold if you took 20 bars

The huge mark up on these 1 gram bars and smaller amazes me every time
I see them
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 05, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
It's a pretty good mark up on these too. But
that says a lot about  what people think of
Bernanke's fish wrap.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 05, 2013, 08:19:28 PM
It's a pretty good mark up on these too. But
that says a lot about  what people think of
Bernanke's fish wrap.

We are going to print 18 billion of toilet paper to bail out that
Island that processes black money for the Russians
( Too early in the day to remember the name and 18 is pocket money
these days )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 05, 2013, 08:22:12 PM
The MDP designers seem stuck in the same grove
Fuggly coins at non standard weigths

Notre Dame de Paris Unesco Culteral
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 05, 2013, 08:22:56 PM
And the gold coin
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 09, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
I am stuck in Aurizon which is being taken over and found a white knight HL which I do not like
So I got to sell before they give me HL

I think the miners may have finally bottomed and we are ready for a dismal
goldhigh in june
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Post by: longnine009 on March 11, 2013, 01:49:27 PM
Doug Casey at DR. Looks likes he has a new book
out.
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-kabuki-theatre-of-demopublicans-part-i/
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 13, 2013, 05:59:53 AM
A few large factories closed and people are now offered pensions from 50 years on
Till 62 half of the cost is for the multinational and half for the government
And to say the slogan of the pollitickers is all work longer  ::)
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Post by: longnine009 on March 13, 2013, 08:32:39 AM
I ordered the Doug Meister's book and 10
1 gram  Shire cards today.  ;D
I think I'll just use  my ebay budget for Shire cards
until  ebay  sellers start selling something
besides over priced crap.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 14, 2013, 02:30:08 AM
I ordered the Doug Meister's book and 10
1 gram  Shire cards today.  ;D
I think I'll just use  my ebay budget for Shire cards
until  ebay  sellers start selling something
besides over priced crap.

I really am just waiting
I gorged myself up to two years ago
Smallest I got are 5 gram apart from a lone one dollar coin
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 19, 2013, 06:48:50 AM
So here we go again
Cyprus needs 18 billion which the banks lost like Iceland banks did
Europe is only willing to loan 10 billion and the other 7 billion should come
from the savings of people ( read KGB money parked there ) paying 10% above 100.000 euro

The parliament just refused this agreement and now we go mini grease allover
In the meantime the banks are still closed and probably till thursday
Long bank week end hey might last 10 days or more
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 19, 2013, 07:18:42 AM
Stealing the KGB's money?  I didn't  know politicians
were  that courageous.  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 19, 2013, 02:17:25 PM
Stealing the KGB's money?  I didn't  know politicians
were  that courageous.  :D


Bet there are odds on the life span of IMF and OEC decision makers.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 19, 2013, 02:36:18 PM
I think they gave up on the idea. Maybe someone
woke up with a horse head.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 20, 2013, 01:06:05 AM
I think they gave up on the idea. Maybe someone
woke up with a horse head.

They gave up because Russia wanted to act instead of the IMF and they backed down immediately
with egg allover their stupid faces because then it would have been shown the IMF is just a stupid
club of stupid old boys and girls
Once again they underestimated the problem and choose the wrong solution
On the other hand physical gold moved another step towards recognition
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 22, 2013, 10:08:46 AM
 Silver    ;D

http://dailyreckoning.com/hi-ho-silver-making-the-case-for-this-precious-metal/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2013, 12:45:58 AM
Silver    ;D

http://dailyreckoning.com/hi-ho-silver-making-the-case-for-this-precious-metal/

I think gold is in the late stages of a wave IV and there is a possibility we still go down in a shakeout
However the next leg up is the V exponential wave
I am aboard the train and bored waiting so I am playing computer games  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on March 24, 2013, 01:22:47 PM
Silver    ;D

http://dailyreckoning.com/hi-ho-silver-making-the-case-for-this-precious-metal/

I think gold is in the late stages of a wave IV and there is a possibility we still go down in a shakeout
However the next leg up is the V exponential wave
I am aboard the train and bored waiting so I am playing computer games  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyyLOOvwIts
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 24, 2013, 10:31:38 PM
I redid my charts
A 22 months and 11 months technical cycle high should happen june
Price going up within the range for four months will give this high
Then in the next cycle we should start wave V the parabolic

For the moment the 15 weeks cycle is non existent and 30 weeks
is the shortest cycle
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 27, 2013, 11:11:44 AM
What's this? I though gold  was a barbarian
relic to central banksters.
http://dailyreckoning.com/a-reason-to-trust-central-banks/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 29, 2013, 12:09:36 AM
What's this? I though gold  was a barbarian
relic to central banksters.
http://dailyreckoning.com/a-reason-to-trust-central-banks/

Central banks suddenly realise you can print money but not gold
China and russia and india have been buing as fast as possible
On the other hand no European banks seem to want to sell anymore
Great Britain of course wins the jackpot for selling the most gold at the lowest price
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 29, 2013, 12:12:58 AM
There was no bankrun in cyprus after all
What can you do with the max withdrawal limit of 300 euro per day
Only hope for the best

There are now two kinds of euro
Those freely transferable and those limited
How long will it take to figure out the latter are worth less ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 29, 2013, 03:48:26 AM
Dollars are  I.O.U.'s. Euros are Who owes you?.  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 31, 2013, 12:53:45 AM
Dollars are  I.O.U.'s. Euros are Who owes you?.  ::)


and both are illigal to burn for heat and both are lousy toilet paper  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 01, 2013, 04:27:17 AM
Dollars are  I.O.U.'s. Euros are Who owes you?.  ::)


and both are illigal to burn for heat and both are lousy toilet paper  :D

Canadian non-coin currency is now polymer - slides out of your pocket easier.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 02, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
I just watched Atlas Shrugged part 2. It's a much
better movie  than part one.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 03, 2013, 03:13:14 AM
I just watched Atlas Shrugged part 2. It's a much
better movie  than part one.

How many parts will there be ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 03, 2013, 04:15:11 AM
I don't think they ever said. This one ended with
Dagny  spiralling into Galt's gulch so I guess there
has to be at least two more parts. It should be at
least 10 parts to do it any justice.  But the acting
was much better in this one.  And Samatha Mathis
looks a lot closer to the Dagny in the novel.

They're claiming to have 100,000 likes on facebook.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 03, 2013, 09:33:59 AM
I guess someone forgot to compliment
him on his really  cool haircut.
http://rt.com/news/us-missile-guam-korea-290/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 04, 2013, 08:06:07 AM
Max Keiser praising himself  and Bitcoins (mostly himself)
in Russia Today.
http://rt.com/op-edge/bitcoin-novelty-revolution-markets-326/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 04, 2013, 11:17:19 PM
People are going more crazy then they were before

With the Korean crisis bitcoins are going up more then gold
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 05, 2013, 03:32:28 AM
I think Bitcoins might also be getting life from
people who don't  want  their saving confiscated
to bailout scumbag bankers.

Mark well my friend, alternative currencies are
going to be the speculation of the decade. People
have had enough of  this central bank  cockroach party.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 06, 2013, 05:50:48 AM
I think Bitcoins might also be getting life from
people who don't  want  their saving confiscated
to bailout scumbag bankers.

Mark well my friend, alternative currencies are
going to be the speculation of the decade. People
have had enough of  this central bank  cockroach party.

It was just on the news that the bank of Cyprus wiped its losses on Grease bonds from the records
It is not even paper money any more but bits and bytes in a computer
Records from 2007 to 2010 are gone

In Holland there was a DOS attack today on the computerbanking (denial of service ) of ING
Nobody could get at his account or transfer money

People are getting to understand there is paper money and there is bits and bytes
They do not understand yet there is gold and silver
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 06, 2013, 06:29:25 AM
They don't even understand that their
government is not there to help them.
They  are there to keep the mobs
away from Goldman Vampire Squids.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 06, 2013, 11:25:49 PM
A set of secret bankaccounts was publicised this week
121 belgians are on it
All bankaccounts are in taxparadises
A lawyer said on TV that belgium no longer has a problem with
using any kind or true information stolen or given or obtained by whatever means
So some more people are going to see their money taken from them
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 07, 2013, 04:51:32 AM
Sure politicians know what to say in front of
the cameras. Then  they squiggle like worms
back into the vest pockets of banksters.

Here's some more "justice
http://newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com/Legal/News/ViewNews.aspx?id=73325&terms=%40ReutersTopicCodes+CONTAINS+'ANV'

They are  vampire squids and they won't stop until
they have sucked the life out of world.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 07, 2013, 05:43:00 AM
In the meantime the european senate declared today that taking a
persons life savings when they are above 100 000 euro is perfectly
acceptable
They made the precedent in Cyprus and are declaring that to be the norm
from now on . All aggregated monies above 100 000 euro can be used
to help the governments ( read the banks )

Luxembourg is being pressured to lift bank secrecy and so is Switzerland

Jim Sinclair has been shouting to get all money out of the system and
already a week later he is proven right in europe
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 07, 2013, 06:24:47 AM
Cyprus may be the Fourth Turning  catalyst.
It's what's fuelling Bitcoins  and the  start of the
end of Nanny State. Everything  just gets  uglyier until
it's over, which may take 20 years. The sucking
squid isn't going to stop sucking without a fight.
Bitcoin is out of the bottle. They can't stop it.
They better get used to Bitcoins and
"biteme bitch."

I'm stocking up on Shire Silver cards.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 07, 2013, 08:16:48 PM
Sinclair also said to stop your children from
exposing your life on Facebook and Twitter
If they say the family just made a cruise and worldtour and bought
a gold jaguar the taxpeople have it very easy to check your income
versus the expenses announced on the internet
Big Brother is watching your money like a highway bandit
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 08, 2013, 03:08:23 AM
Indeed, they might as well issue everyone
a CIA account number on farce book. Money
may not be too safe in Bitcoins either. The
higher they go in value, the  more incentive
 there is for hackers to go to go to work.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 08, 2013, 03:40:34 AM
Bitcoin was trading for $113 last Tuesday.
Today it's trading at $194.  People are finally
figuring out where Soylent Green comes from.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 08, 2013, 06:43:16 AM
In the meantime
MDP is as lazy as ever
Four silver coins for the Tour de France 2013
Ugly in mho

white and yellow and green and redspotted
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 08, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
Junk silver still has big relative premium.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 08, 2013, 08:21:11 PM
Sinclair also said to stop your children from
exposing your life on Facebook and Twitter
If they say the family just made a cruise and worldtour and bought
a gold jaguar the taxpeople have it very easy to check your income
versus the expenses announced on the internet
Big Brother is watching your money like a highway bandit
http://rt.com/usa/information-tax-media-social-526/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 10, 2013, 02:16:20 AM
Bitcoin $245. Guess the KGB found a new home.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 10, 2013, 09:08:39 AM
Uh-oh Bitcoin $184 @  5:00pm   :o
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 10, 2013, 08:18:02 PM
Bitcoin is on a roller-coaster
Intresting to note is that it is not traded by algos but by humans
They probably want to stop this bitcoin craze and it is easier then
stopping gold price

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 11, 2013, 12:30:38 AM
$152 this morning. I see the King Vampire Squid
lowered the outlook for gold this year. Be funny
if it goes vertical now.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 11, 2013, 05:19:37 AM
Bitcoin trading halted
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-11/bitcoin-trading-halted-by-mt-gox-exchange-after-plunge-in-price.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 12, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
Armstrong thinks we have a few more years before PM's go parabolic.
Several fairly reliable sources suggest next week is a/ the buy?

On a side note: Mark Twain and SiFi and... Surprise find
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvtqknEF1z0
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on April 12, 2013, 06:12:47 AM
Mid day in the U S......Gold down $62/oz to $1503/oz and silver down $1.34/oz to $26.34/oz. Time to buy everyone!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 12, 2013, 08:04:13 AM
I want to see  a youtube video of the high dive
compitition at the Mt. Gox exchange.   ;D

Oooooh  10 10 9 10 10
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 13, 2013, 01:57:56 AM
We are at or close to the 50% fibo level of the last 5 wave
Also the 11 months cyclus is hopelessly oversold

I think the low will come in next week(s)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 13, 2013, 07:52:37 AM
We are at or close to the 50% fibo level of the last 5 wave
Also the 11 months cyclus is hopelessly oversold

I think the low will come in next week(s)



Spot gold touched top of 900 day moving average.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 13, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
It is a total paper market right now
The physical market has 50 buyers for every seller right now
Coins trade at large % above the paper price
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 14, 2013, 02:35:47 PM
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEIQtwIwBA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D91leP4moGJo&ei=-GRrUde4K8T02wXTgYG4Bw&usg=AFQjCNH6YWZMTvczcWQRHpZLUpGaD6ee-g&sig2=oZTf5ZsTnMn_zTzHenU_kQ
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 15, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
The Belgian exchange agents reported record gold sales
( they exchange money and sell gold but no silver that is 20% taxed as raw material )

So the crash is completely in the papermarket
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 16, 2013, 03:05:48 AM
The Belgian exchange agents reported record gold sales
( they exchange money and sell gold but no silver that is 20% taxed as raw material )

So the crash is completely in the papermarket

Here too. Canada
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 18, 2013, 09:36:48 PM
It looks like the fare east buying is winning
We are back over 1400
I still got a technical high for june and fear the correction
after that may be bad again
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 22, 2013, 02:29:51 AM
CBC gold documentary
http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/ID/2380466502/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 23, 2013, 12:46:10 AM
Gann perspective
http://www.gannglobal.com/webinar/2013/04/13-04-23-Video-08.php?inf_contact_key=01755047d4858932526f50445c936b400a46cd0c3dbd593e393d6c6c40417d73
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 24, 2013, 02:00:30 AM
Bought three Austrian Philharmonic 1/4 Ounce Gold Coin (999.9) I stumbled across while looking for reasonable priced coins. Never saw them listed in Canada - rare in North America.
THEN I saw a little half sovereign in a coin shop and bought it below gold content! Unbelievable.
These two stores were essentially out of stock and said not expecting stock for four weeks.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on April 24, 2013, 08:54:18 AM
The  "Spartans"
http://rt.com/news/greece-wwii-reparations-germany-339/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 25, 2013, 03:07:22 AM
In Belgium money exchangers handle gold coins and have a price maker for all of them
called goldforex
Most will ask one or two euro more for a coin but stay close
For the moment premiums are still a few percentage points only and spread has
slightly widened from 2.5 to 3 %

http://www.goldforex.be/servlet/javaparser?pgm=lst_or_new&lg=nl
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on April 27, 2013, 09:36:34 AM
Recent premiums on junk silver is 30-40% on ebay.ca!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 01, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
It is a total paper market right now
The physical market has 50 buyers for every seller right now
Coins trade at large % above the paper price
It appears that you are correct once again August.
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-great-gold-train-robbery-of-2013/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 02, 2013, 05:49:42 AM
I was right so many times last 12 yeas and yet I am cash strapped because of the
paper market manipulations
It is the old MBA joke
I am solvent but not liquid  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on May 10, 2013, 12:13:38 PM
Intermission with Kurt
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xweayp_2081-universal-absurdity_shortfilms#.UY2KIcof-yC
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 10, 2013, 01:42:29 PM
 
That's all right, he tried, that's the important thing.
I think Little Ben should get a nice big raise
for trying so hard.  Maybe  goldman  will give
him one?

Excellent flick!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 11, 2013, 03:07:34 PM
Herrrrrrre's Gerald.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdpdbhyAYQg
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 12, 2013, 01:14:02 AM
I think we are just waiting for the other shoe to drop now
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 13, 2013, 07:35:08 AM
The bunglers of the Euro Union issued a new 5 euro note
Very difficult to counterfeit
But many automates for parking etc refuse the bill since they do not recognize it and even shop keepers
refuse the bill because they think it is counterfeit lol
Now they are going to inform again the software writers to program the bill into recognition programs and brainwash the shopkeepers lol 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on May 15, 2013, 01:50:28 AM
Saw Iron Man 3 Monday. Blown away with the underlying background of corruption and negligence everywhere.
Hi level of action but the political element very contemporary. 
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 15, 2013, 02:55:05 AM
I watched Red Dawn2 last week. Not much different
from the last one, just better acting.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 15, 2013, 05:29:26 AM
Preview:  Summer of Recovery  Season 5

http://www.infowars.com/10-scenes-from-the-economic-collapse-that-is-sweeping-across-the-planet/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 15, 2013, 05:33:18 AM
Ha ha ha lap up that kool-aid yellow dogs.
http://www.infowars.com/associated-press-feels-the-wrath-of-the-orwellian-police-state-government-it-helped-put-into-power/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 15, 2013, 05:49:42 AM
I saw the film and now bought the trilogy
Hunger Games
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 15, 2013, 06:44:39 AM
I keep forgetting  to check for hunger games.
Maybe I'll go up tonight and look for it. Powerball
is 350 million so I need an excuse to go out and
buy more tickets.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on May 15, 2013, 08:48:51 AM
125,000,000 to 1 odds? Whoo-Boy, you'd do better if you purchased a coin or two.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 15, 2013, 10:49:28 AM
Indeed, the Brasher Doubloon is for sale at 10million.
I might have that much left after taxes.

Apparently someone bought the Hunger games
DVD so I'll have wait until they re-stock it. In the
meantime I'm watching the History Channel's
Third Reich. Funny, I never watched it before yet
it looks so familar. As if I was watching the news
in 16mn skipping film.  ;D

Must  be my imagination. The news whores  would never do that.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 16, 2013, 05:53:07 AM
A group of hackers promised they will make Belgium government computer less for a few days
because they are blocking the pirate bay
I paid 12 british pounds for the 3 books of the Hunger Games ( postage included )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 16, 2013, 07:56:38 AM
A group of hackers promised they will make Belgium government computer less for a few days
because they are blocking the pirate bay
I paid 12 british pounds for the 3 books of the Hunger Games ( postage included )

3. "Now let it first be understood that I am a god of
War and Vengenance. I shall deal hardly with them."
4. "Choose ye an island!"  [Internet?]
5. "Fortify it!"  [ firewalls  encryption and whatever
else hackers do to protect themselves?]
6. "Dung it about with  enginery of war."  [computers?]
7.  "I will give you  a war-engine."
8.  "With it ye shall smite the peiples; and none shall
stand before you."
Book three LIBER AL  VEL LEGIS  aka The Book of the Law
Aleister Crowley  1904
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 17, 2013, 01:26:39 AM
The gold dealers of Belgium have openly warned some coins are getting difficult to get
The Kruger rand is now 6% over melt which is more then the normal 3-4%
This only indicates a reasonable shortage they hope to be temporary
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on May 20, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Gold and Silver spot (based on futures) can continue to fall as only serious buying is physical - few bids on paper gold...
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 25, 2013, 04:58:16 AM
Vampire Squids are sucking away.
http://rt.com/usa/wall-street-congress-bill-768/

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBUmNud_3lcQ&ei=PvCgUc2AGoOc8wTfjIE4&usg=AFQjCNF4ggikB1FQBabGVUG6ujI7J92hhg&sig2=1NoHhXbEN0xj8QXzH-q-cA
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 30, 2013, 07:24:21 AM
I really am not much of a soccer fan which is exceptional for a Belgian
But I was amazed the main item in the news was Belgium beating the US
4 to 2  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 30, 2013, 08:40:57 AM
Maybe it's a distraction. Do you feel
anything funny like maybe sachi
suction cups on your wallet?  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 31, 2013, 05:47:13 AM
New fines are being introduced from the age of 14 on

One of the fines is for instance if you push a box with your feet instead of carrying it
Another fine is if you sit on a bench railing with your feet on the real bench
Another fine is for letting your carmotor run when stopping double parked
etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on May 31, 2013, 06:30:42 AM
What's the fine for dumping a bucket  of pig shit
over a Eurocrat?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 02, 2013, 05:34:23 AM
What's the fine for dumping a bucket  of pig shit
over a Eurocrat?

Probably 250 euro for illegally dumping refuse on a non declared and licensed dump lol
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on June 02, 2013, 06:09:17 AM
That's not too bad. Might  have to buy some
carbon credits though to off-set the methane.

Al Gore buys lots of those
but then he vents lots of BS
gas into the environment.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on June 02, 2013, 08:52:57 AM
Well let's see now, if pootie-poot  starts WWlll
because he can't get  some fruity jam for his
toast, that will  be good for metals? LOL

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/monsanto.asp
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on June 04, 2013, 04:40:28 AM
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-04/gross-says-reduce-risk-assets-since-qe-not-reinvigorating-growth.html?cmpid=

You'd  think  Benny Boop would  have learned
the law of diminishing marginal returns at
Havard.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 05, 2013, 06:54:42 AM
Well let's see now, if pootie-poot  starts WWlll
because he can't get  some fruity jam for his
toast, that will  be good for metals? LOL

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/monsanto.asp

Now what can u expect from a firm that made agent orange and the detonator for atom bombs
and called leached out seaweed being put back into a sea as a return to origin  ::)
They wanted 20% ROE ....
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on June 12, 2013, 05:16:15 AM
Ten thousand boomers a day signing up
for soc sec. I bet they remember this
movie.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=20&ved=0CEkQtwIwCTgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.videobash.com%2Fvideo%2Fshow%2Fid%2F324513&ei=C6m4UdnAN6SsyAGjw4GABw&usg=AFQjCNEcBCF0kbPQkse0xZ5F2-gxER2YQw&sig2=ON5DPv__3xJF_B6lBre1rQ
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 13, 2013, 09:27:43 PM
I have seen soylent green three times
So plausible the way we are going

My brother said the USA is voting a law that will allow them to officially put virus containing messages on sites
like torrent sites
You know anything about that ?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on June 14, 2013, 03:36:24 AM
I haven't heard that.  But it makes sense
that they would. We like fighting wars that
are impossible to win so why not a war on
the Internet?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 28, 2013, 04:04:53 AM
It looks like gold is set to shake all believers off before
it goes back up again ???
June can produce a possible bottom now
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on June 28, 2013, 08:45:53 AM
Alberta floods turning into another Louisiana.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/prime-minister-office-notice-impressed-guns-seized-evacuated-155927407.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on June 28, 2013, 11:11:18 AM
Oh my they're taking care of everyone's guns.
That's so thoughtful of them.  Are Blackwater
mercenaries there too?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on June 29, 2013, 01:53:06 AM
Oh my they're taking care of everyone's guns.
That's so thoughtful of them.  Are Blackwater
mercenaries there too?

RCMP seem to be beyond anyone's control, including the governments. Their approval rating is very poor.
Had my father (in 80's) threatened to have the shit beat out of him by a young punk RCMP in Calgary.
Many murders by RCMP in Western Canada by RCMP over the last 5 years with no criminal charges. Shotgun, pistols used.
As everywhere civil servants are above the law.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on June 29, 2013, 06:28:14 AM
Over here we're having another Doucheberg
moment:
http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/06/bloomberg-if-sparklers-legal-terrorists-will-win/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 01, 2013, 05:38:22 AM
It was announced that a worldwide effort called in our sites eliminated
328 internet sites
In Belgium 79 of which the owner was not found
Those of which the owner were found paid duties and taxes and penalties
( what else )
The search for money is on  ??? by hook or by crook
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 01, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
A  politician who's not a cockroach.
How'd  that happen?


http://rt.com/news/marine-le-pen-interview-448/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 01, 2013, 06:07:10 AM

The search for money is on  ??? by hook or by crook


Did the golden boys okay that? They don't
like competition.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 02, 2013, 03:37:08 AM

The search for money is on  ??? by hook or by crook


Did the golden boys okay that? They don't
like competition.

No because they are bleeding too in Belgium
Our socialist government even aims at a minimum tax for
multinationals that pay no tax and have a minister to dissuade
them from leaving  ::)

Bail ins have now been officially agreed as the means for saving banks
If you are foolish enough to give more then 100 000 euro to banks in Belgium
u will automatically be converted to shareholder at the first crisis
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 02, 2013, 07:17:03 AM
You guys have it easy. Look what we have.  ;D

http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/06/bloomberg-if-sparklers-legal-terrorists-will-win/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 03, 2013, 06:04:37 AM
From the 21st of july on we will have two kings and three queens
Anybody interested in making an offer may apply to the flemish headquarters of the flemish
militants  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 03, 2013, 07:37:46 AM
Take this one.  She'll make a good queen.

http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x11gwt6
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 04, 2013, 06:08:55 AM
Hey man, lets go to the park and  celebrate our
Independence.

http://lakewoodobserver.com/read/2013/06/26/special-park-rules-to-be-in-effect-at-lakewood-park
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 04, 2013, 01:20:47 PM
Hey man, lets go to the park and  celebrate our
Independence.

http://lakewoodobserver.com/read/2013/06/26/special-park-rules-to-be-in-effect-at-lakewood-park

What about Canada Goose shit?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 04, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
As long as it's rated AAA.  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 05, 2013, 05:51:56 AM
In Egypt the army has now the president in custody
The islam brothership does not like this and had a protest
The army said it did not shoot with real bullets yet twenty protesters are dead or wounded
Atlas Shrugged is progressing

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 05, 2013, 06:38:30 AM
"Atlas Shrugged is progressing."

Indeed it is. But politicians don't get it.
Eddie's oaktree is them.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC4QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freerepublic.com%2Ffocus%2Ff-news%2F2956672%2Fposts&ei=1BHXUZq5NoLQ9ASpgoHgDA&usg=AFQjCNGKXhYXqTccZyUrX9yn6K7dUxGE6A&sig2=Br-OUf8WvFhP2EfbQZQ1Wg

P2P > 1984
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 09, 2013, 01:00:17 AM
Yes empty and rotten

Summer finally arrived in belgium with temp of 25c
So I bought me a bag of 51 secondhand books off kapaza which is cheaper then ebay
I started on the third a James Patterson private london
Looks like first some writers bought all ideas off dead writers estates and second they are now co authoring
with unknowns to crank out more books
Patterson is very good though I like Eric von Lustbader better

I looked for second hand books in the UK first but all four prof sellers refused to reduce postage
They wanted 0.99p per book and 3 pounds postage per book
One was willing to go to 2 pounds after the fifth book in the box  ???

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 09, 2013, 01:36:29 AM
Yes empty and rotten

Summer finally arrived in belgium with temp of 25c
So I bought me a bag of 51 secondhand books off kapaza which is cheaper then ebay
I started on the third a James Patterson private london
Looks like first some writers bought all ideas off dead writers estates and second they are now co authoring
with unknowns to crank out more books
Patterson is very good though I like Eric von Lustbader better

I looked for second hand books in the UK first but all four prof sellers refused to reduce postage
They wanted 0.99p per book and 3 pounds postage per book
One was willing to go to 2 pounds after the fifth book in the box  ???




http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/movies/
Also check out audiobooks on Youtube.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 10, 2013, 11:05:47 AM
Fifty one book? How many books a year
do you  read August? 

This is a funny video. Don't piss
off Irish women. LOL
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDAQuAIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQIMucHfUMyg&ei=5aTcUfnrFoeG9gSl4oC4AQ&usg=AFQjCNFQiqta6UCkxZ8y-zSe-4S5dYgRYA&sig2=xQ_MDgv2-fCrlzPxg8IENg
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 10, 2013, 12:23:34 PM
I wonder if stockbrokers still marvel over
the wonders of  corporate down sizing?

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/08/investing/stock-market-citadel/index.html
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 11, 2013, 07:49:54 AM
Fifty one book? How many books a year
do you  read August? 

50 is about my yearly quot-um
two or three a week in summer
a bit less in winter
I have a collection of like 750 bestsellers
I was planning to read again but I keep finding better books
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 12, 2013, 03:39:36 PM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/07/12/tv-station-reports-plane-crash-pilots-names-as-wi-tu-lo-ho-lee-fuk/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on July 13, 2013, 03:38:06 AM
That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. I'm wondering what the stewardesses names were.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 13, 2013, 06:11:56 AM
That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. I'm wondering what the stewardesses names were.

Wi  Giet Wang
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 13, 2013, 09:35:12 AM
That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. I'm wondering what the stewardesses names were.

Wi  Giet Wang
and yuu gat dong and dim sum kong

and what is even more lugubre is that of the two dead one girl was killed by a firetruck driving
over her whilst she was lying on the tarmac

one dreamliner burned out today whilst parked on the tarmac
the boeing shares just dropped
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 13, 2013, 12:04:42 PM
The whole thing was a cluster fuk from
start to finish.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 14, 2013, 12:21:55 AM
Cum     to think about it

They blew it  ::)

I wonder whether they were members of the one mile club and forgot time or altitude  :(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 14, 2013, 06:20:14 AM
Did you ever read anything by Brad Thor?
He has a thriller novel called Hidden Order.
It's suppose to be about the Federal
Reserve. I never heard of this guy but
he was on Conspiricy Radio aka
CoasttoCoast. He sounds pretty sharp.

P2P > 1984
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on July 14, 2013, 03:16:15 PM
Worth keeping up with.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong_economics_blog/

August what do the German citizen think about-
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kim-Dotcom-s-Face-Projected-onto-US-Embassy-Building-in-Protest-367451.shtml
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 15, 2013, 05:59:06 AM
Good news. We are going to get our own
Radio Free Amerika.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=14332
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on July 15, 2013, 09:10:36 AM
Every news outlet is propaganda. This new Amerika propaganda medium might be the start of Bend Over's (B O) possible hint of amending the 22nd amendment ..... "An 8 year 'reigning' presidente can not succeed himself."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2013, 04:55:44 AM
Did you ever read anything by Brad Thor?
He has a thriller novel called Hidden Order.
It's suppose to be about the Federal
Reserve. I never heard of this guy but
he was on Conspiricy Radio aka
CoasttoCoast. He sounds pretty sharp.

P2P > 1984


Nope
Never heard of the guy
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2013, 05:00:23 AM
Worth keeping up with.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong_economics_blog/

August what do the German citizen think about-
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kim-Dotcom-s-Face-Projected-onto-US-Embassy-Building-in-Protest-367451.shtml

I know armstrong
I think he betrayed uncle jim
his rants about the roman empire are not acurate at all and his supposed
knowledge about gold coins is as good as non existant

kim dotcom is a marginal figure
I like much more the fem warriors who stormed our parliament in the topless mode

The germans want to survive the crisis in the best possible shape like anybody else
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 16, 2013, 05:16:18 AM
Good news. We are going to get our own
Radio Free Amerika.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=14332

I was listening to radio free amerika 40 years ago allready
broadcasting from the armed forces in germany
They were the only ones to have the Dow Jones closing prices lol
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 16, 2013, 06:22:55 AM


http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=14332
They were the only ones to have the Dow Jones closing prices lol
"Those Imperial stooges."   :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 24, 2013, 03:18:32 AM
We're as dumb as the N . Koreans who think
they're rich  because they get a rice ration
every day.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-23/how-does-america%E2%80%99s-middle-class-rank-globally-27
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 24, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
We're as dumb as the N . Koreans who think
they're rich  because they get a rice ration
every day.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-23/how-does-america%E2%80%99s-middle-class-rank-globally-27

On the other hand I read in the South African news that a generation of youngsters is
heading into poverty and that they are too stupid to understand if they just went once a
month less to the movies they would break even financially  ::)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 24, 2013, 08:44:20 AM
In the 80's all they talked about here
were the crack babies. What will they
do. How will they make a living?

If they're still wondering:

http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/h/hedge_fund_managers.asp
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 27, 2013, 07:49:38 AM

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDIQuAIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dtgvxu8QY01s&ei=Xnf0UfzVM5K68wTt7IHAAw&usg=AFQjCNEcULGd7F2e2VSJkEAnc1QNRARbgA&sig2=JCVGi7AkAhK4BvbExuk88w

Ballad of the Anti-Paladin

PalaBen, PalaBen, where do you roam,
PalaBen, PalaBen, bail 'em out with loans.

("Loans?"   ;)  ;)  ;) )

Have bonds  will unravel  reads the
card of a man,
A knight without honor in a zombie land,
His QE  forever  heeds the calling wind,
Banksters' bonus check, the man called Ben...

PalaBen, PalaBen, where do you  roam,
PalaBen, PalaBen, bail 'em out with "loans."
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 28, 2013, 12:48:15 AM
In the 80's all they talked about here
were the crack babies. What will they
do. How will they make a living?

If they're still wondering:

http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/h/hedge_fund_managers.asp

I never heard about the crack babies only the aids babies and what they did was die

The good old times are back again
after 40 years TBC is back on the rise with 1200 new cases mostly from east european immigrants
The last sanatoria were closed 15 years ago and Brussels is now building a new one
Viva the good olle times
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on July 28, 2013, 05:34:47 AM
I suspect the the good old  days will be back
for alot of diseases.  We don't have doctors
anymore, we have Pharmbots  who simply feed
people antibotics that weaken and slothify the
immune systems-externally mirrored in  zombie
nations. If  for some reason the world survives  
that, then there's always death by constiipation ,
once again thanks to antibotics that kill flora and
Pesticides  that kill flora or inhibit flora growth. I think
it will be death by constipation for the world. It's Natures
humorous way  of saying  we're full of shit.  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 05, 2013, 04:18:15 AM
Armstrong is being very acid now he got out of jail

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/04/the-iron-curtain-starting-to-close-now-step/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 05, 2013, 04:33:57 AM
A new set of cycli could be starting if we can finish the double bottom on
the monthly slow stoch

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3053/k8e0.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on August 09, 2013, 02:21:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4z09el30f8
 ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 09, 2013, 11:41:07 PM
merkel is pissed off with US spying
russia returns to cuba

bitcoins being banned by moneyprinters

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/08/bitcoin-banned-in-thailand/

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on August 10, 2013, 12:51:48 PM
Apparently Argentina has the highest use
of Bitcoin.   
http://dailyreckoning.com/is-bitcoin-real-or-not/


P2P  > 1984
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on August 18, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
I don't think German bureaucrats are grasping
the concept of shadow economy.   ;D

http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-germany-recognize-currency-641/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on August 19, 2013, 12:26:33 PM
David Stockman is da man!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jKprapaBXPo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjKprapaBXPo#
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 20, 2013, 03:46:19 AM
I don't think German bureaucrats are grasping
the concept of shadow economy.   ;D

http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-germany-recognize-currency-641/

The hunt is on though for shadow economy
This week in belgium they caught a family business of beer distributors that managed to evade 15 million
euro in taxes by selling and making fake invoices
Solution
The family will fire their 19 employees and sell the business because they do not want to go to jail
They seem to have enough money to live on and not care about their children
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 22, 2013, 12:51:50 AM
Things are heating up
Siria has several hundred women and children killed in a nerve gas attack dying with foam on the mouth
as faithfully filmed and shown on our TV screens to keep us away from thinking about our own problems
Armstrong suggests they did do this to themselves to get invaded like Iraq
Worst thing is that with the filming and all this could be a true Hitleresque plot

Doomsday sayer Armstrong also reports unrest will go on until 2020
On the other hand he had a sudden reversal of heart on gold and calls this a mayor bottom

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on August 22, 2013, 03:20:22 AM
 The "news" media is nothing but a
freak show masking the only  thing
that is going on: Corporate Scumbags
trying to enslave the world.

Dear Google:
http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/hermit_the_surly/media/CAM00368.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 22, 2013, 03:41:02 AM
Google was down for 6 minutes and internet traffic went down 40%

I never use google and try to block all trackers and pop ups etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on August 22, 2013, 04:01:14 AM
My cell has a front/back camera. And a
google platform. How fascinating then
that if  I cover the camera with a sticker
because it serves no purpose except to
spy on me, the phone won't work.

Oh wait, I can use the front camera to
take pictures of myself to post in the
CIA's guest book, aka farcebook.

America is brain dead!
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 22, 2013, 11:51:26 PM
Germany issued a warning that win8 is very dangerous
There is no control over hardware nor software which means
NSA can spy on all users potentially
This is the possible end of Microsoft dominance

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/22/germany-warns-windows-8-is-dangerous-is-microsoft-a-giant-short/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on August 22, 2013, 11:58:31 PM
Switzerland is fighting back
The bank employee that gave away addresses of foreign tax evaders
got 3 years of prison
The usa is pressuring Switzerland to give addresses of american accounts and from now on they
refuse american customers so they can give the US the finger
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on August 23, 2013, 05:03:36 AM
I'm not surprised.  The Swiss have been
pigeonholed as bunch of gnome bankers
but they're a lot more tenacious than
people think.

You remember the Fourth Turning? For
ten years now I've been trying to figure
out what the form of that will be. Everytime I think
I got it down, something new  and bigger happens.  Now
I think it may exactly what the authors listed
as a possibility: the individual  against the
the collective. And maybe snowden is the
 "catalyst." If that is the case then we have
a 15-20 year freak show ahead  before the
"crisis" which in the last Fourth Turning
was WWll.  :(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on August 23, 2013, 08:25:13 AM
Vacation trends.


http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-22/italian-job-sneaks-factory-to-poland-under-cover-of-darkness.html?cmpid=
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 01, 2013, 11:44:57 PM
I finally found the 22 months cycle again
Stupid of me since it only right tranlated by 11 months
In other words the price high was not the cycle high which
I of all persons should have known a lot faster
I miss seven of eleven dearly on this insight
He is now into carving semi precious stones

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5633/g2f4.png)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 01, 2013, 11:46:45 PM
All this means is that the next cycle high ( not necessary price high ) should be august 2014  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on September 03, 2013, 05:17:33 AM
Have an indicator suggesting end of Sept is a buying opportunity if it does not go below end of June bottom?
Another one suggest end of Oct?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 03, 2013, 07:20:32 AM
Then I think oct is more likely
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 05, 2013, 01:52:55 AM
A pretty good summation of  the
Looter State.  As well as some comments
on the suck-ass zombie from Omaha.
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-goodfellas-of-wall-street/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 09, 2013, 11:14:56 PM
Must be election time. Merkel
is out talking the good game again.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-09/merkel-says-europe-can-t-just-rest-on-its-renaissance-laurels.html?cmpid=
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 10, 2013, 12:07:35 AM
NSA is reading all encrypted mails even banktransfers from normal citizens

Twitter just released the home address to the Belgian media criminals squad of a guy who
put flemish films on bittorent a few days after they aired on TV because the guy
was stupid enough to advertise what he was doing on twitter
The torrent site did NOT give away any information
and the users were not bothered but the perp risks 5 years in jail for trusting twitter
with the information he was stealing and sharing films I can watch on my pay TV

we are going to hell in a handbasket fast for a few dollars more (not the italian spaghetti western )
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 10, 2013, 12:11:37 AM
In unrelated news my oldest dog is in critical condition two years after her twin died
So if I suddenly disappear that is the reason
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 10, 2013, 05:47:34 AM
NSA is reading all encrypted mails even banktransfers from normal citizens

And yet they can't put banksters
or hedge fund managers in prison.
Isn't  that amazing. They must be
squeaky clean.  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 10, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
The Belgian liberal Verhofstadt is right
He is prominent in the European Union Senate
We have to severe all links with the NSA
If the USA wants to start WWIII they will be on their own

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdeutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de%2F2013%2F09%2F10%2Fswift-us-geheimdienste-ueberwachen-europaeische-bank-konten%2F
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 11, 2013, 12:13:29 AM
Historically Fourth Turnings have
ended with scorched earth wars.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 11, 2013, 12:19:48 AM
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-domestic-terrorist-you-can-call-a-hero/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 11, 2013, 11:26:30 PM
Ever since the mayan calendar ran out I keep forgetting dates
When is the fourth turning again ?

Armstrong has 2015.75 and he was put in jail without process unlike bankers who
never go to jail
He is now broadcasting from Switzerland on Suisse computer servers
He says they are the last to be reasonably free ( he forgets the pirate bay)
Also he uses a lot of wrong data on old Rome ( does not know anything about the coins he shows)
And he has the most horrible typos in the world

He claims he and a group reconstructed computer models out of the USA but all his
typos and wrong statements about gold coins make me think he is a one man army
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 12, 2013, 12:09:26 AM
The Fourth Turning is the final
cycle in an 80 year cycle.  It starts
off with a catalyst and ends with
a crisis. And in America there has
been a president from the "prophet
generation" in office when the crisis began..
The "prophet generation" today are the
boomers, so Obama is not the one. But
Billary Clinton  and Goober (Jeb Bush)
are both boomers.

In the last Fouth Turning for the U.S the
catalyst was the crash of 1929 and the
Crisis was World War ll. That's the most
important thing to remember about a Fourth
Turning-it's to the death, take no prisioners,
scortched earth, get the &$@! out of Dodge.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 12, 2013, 05:41:51 AM
Here's some fun news. Last month  Psycho-Dad
donated $350, 000  of his own money to prevent
two  state senators from Colorado from being
recalled after they voted for gun control.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2013/08/8533258/bloombergs-anti-recall-donations-are-big-deal-colorado&sa=U&ei=SvoxUsXkAYTu9ASS2IAo&ved=0CAoQFjAA&sig2=MXqarpgbkquV2WNZM0vbaw&usg=AFQjCNEUe7NtksphkpG58x__bIIigtdVag

Heehee, they lost.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 13, 2013, 05:20:17 AM
T h e vampire squids are talking
down gold.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-13/goldman-sees-risk-of-gold-below-1-000-as-u-s-economy-gains-1-.html?cmpid=
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 24, 2013, 11:49:18 PM
Here's some interesting conjecture:
What if there's a gang war going on
between the golden boys and the NSA?

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/did-someone-help-ed-snowden-punch-a-hole-in-the-nsa/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 26, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
As I understand it NSA and win8 are the universal enemy of mankind  :(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Muckeye on September 26, 2013, 09:55:32 AM
Dear Paint your Wagon,
Sorry to hear about you faithful old friend.
I have one that is 14 and appreciate your sorrow.

regards,  MUCKEYE.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on September 26, 2013, 01:04:01 PM
Indeed, but we've yet to see what kind
of mutants will spring from Obamacaid
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2013, 05:49:35 AM
Dear Paint your Wagon,
Sorry to hear about you faithful old friend.
I have one that is 14 and appreciate your sorrow.

regards,  MUCKEYE.

Thank you fellow knight friend
It was a female English Cocker Spaniel and her twin died at age 10 already
A 13 it is the eldest of 5 Cockers I ever had
It gets increasingly difficult to have a new dog that was not inbread in the old eastblock countries
My trusted breeder is no longer alive and finding a new one is difficult
I still have one white orange Cocker 7 years old
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 03, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
C'mom Max, tell us what you really think.

http://rt.com/op-edge/us-economy-hedge-fund-660/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 03, 2013, 04:24:33 AM
C'mom Max, tell us what you really think.

http://rt.com/op-edge/us-economy-hedge-fund-660/

and yet Martin Armstrong says it all does not matter

i guess like Atlas Shrugged we are just on the way to the end of the line and only the arrival
time guestimate varies
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 03, 2013, 11:51:12 PM
And the USSR of America subsidiary now seizes bitcoins
Why can they not just be content to print billions of toilet dollars ?
Read all about it at Armstrongs believe it or not ancient Rome shittery

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/04/bitcoin-seized-its-days-are-numbered/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 25, 2013, 05:53:23 AM
It looks like the gold bottom was successfully tested
and we are now ready for a slow stoch relative or all time high
next year  :)
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on October 26, 2013, 10:46:23 AM
Why Silver?
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/26/silver-subject-to-19-taxation-as-of-january-1st-2014/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 26, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
Why Silver?
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/26/silver-subject-to-19-taxation-as-of-january-1st-2014/
To drive the price down?
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on October 26, 2013, 03:58:38 PM
The Vat 171.5% increase is called, "Revenue Enhancement".
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on October 26, 2013, 04:08:03 PM
Funny how they  take someone's money
and then call  it "value added."  ???
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 27, 2013, 01:50:09 AM
Why Silver?
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/10/26/silver-subject-to-19-taxation-as-of-january-1st-2014/

I am sick and tired of the stupid things Armstrong says
He claims to be an American who knows about Europe and the world
He showed amply he does not know anything at all about coin collecting in the past
All his articles are full of spelling mistakes and halftruths
He wormed himself into the confidence of Uncle Jim posting for months
while he was still in jail and the leaving jim and saying exact the opposite about gold
Now from November on he wants to be paid for his nonsense

The last 48 hours he said two stupid and false things
First he said the tax in France is 75% above 1 million euro (true) and football players will stop to play in France (false) Truth is they are considering not playing for one single sunday as a token protest
Reality is that Depardieu who was Jeanvaljean in Les Miserables know got the Belgian and Russian nationality to avoid the tax and that for six months now
Super rich people are now flocking to other frenchspeaking places and Wallonia is one of those

On silver he is totally wrong. The law states silver is an industrial metal in all states be it coins or bars and subject to the local vat tax which is between 17 and 22% in all euro countries for as long as I can remember

On gold he is wrong too
There are qualifications for gold to be tax free and they differ between bars and coins
one of them is that the price of the item has to be below 170% of the goldvalue
another is that a coin has to be legal tender in the country of origin

I once was a fan of armstrong
Now I think he is just out to make a lot of fast bucks going paying service in novembre
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 04, 2013, 01:21:05 PM
Mogambo is loose.
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-mogambo-gurus-lifetime-income-equation/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 05, 2013, 06:40:37 AM
Mogambo is loose.
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-mogambo-gurus-lifetime-income-equation/

He sure is up to his old level  :D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on November 18, 2013, 04:25:57 AM
A lot of indicators suggest a bottom in silver this week with a strong move into early January at least.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 19, 2013, 12:14:38 AM
This should do wonders for inflation.
http://www.infowars.com/establishment-proposes-have-the-government-give-every-adult-a-basic-income/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 19, 2013, 06:48:23 AM
This should do wonders for inflation.
http://www.infowars.com/establishment-proposes-have-the-government-give-every-adult-a-basic-income/

Belgium has this for ages
First there is an unending period you can get money from unemployment agency
Up till 65 and then a minimum retirement pay
When you were foul enough to get disqualified like refusing a job twenty times in  a row
you can go the a OCMW a centre for public welfare and they will give you enough for food etc
and yet there are people too dumb to profit and they are homeless and live on the streets
This will do nothing for inflation since they take the money away in taxes so that working
people have less to spend
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 19, 2013, 07:28:28 AM
There may not be much they can get
in taxes. And I think our main creditor
might be mad at us. :o
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/china-unveils-strategic-map-for-a-nuclear-submarine-attack-on-u-s-cities/&sa=U&ei=ZK2LUsOfHLLA4APJwYHAAQ&ved=0CAsQFjAA&sig2=4y6mifUKKA2EMn9DZjhXmg&usg=AFQjCNGM8i47vjc5D83jJjQ5fdqli7VUCw
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 20, 2013, 01:49:48 AM
Bernanke has a bounty on his ass.

http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-assassination-market-anarchist-983/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 26, 2013, 09:29:07 AM
Bernanke has a bounty on his ass.

http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-assassination-market-anarchist-983/

I am not impressed by the bounty
for less then 10 000 only a madman would do it  :D
And it will not help since they are all assholes and idiots and incompetents

In Belgium one of the only competents went back to university to teach since
pollitics is for idiots and compromisers
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 28, 2013, 01:30:44 PM
WTF? Bitcoin at $1,185.00.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on November 30, 2013, 06:03:44 AM
WTF? Bitcoin at $1,185.00.

that is the price of an ounce of gold
I wonder who thinks that is worth the same price though
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on November 30, 2013, 06:22:21 AM
WTF? Bitcoin at $1,185.00.
that is the price of an ounce of gold
I wonder who thinks that is worth the same price though
Investors who are one toke over
the line?  :D
Smells like a pump and dump
to me.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 04, 2013, 07:15:31 AM
Pump and dump sounds right  >:(

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on December 11, 2013, 05:50:00 AM
Happened in Canada just a few miles south of me.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/straight-talk-and-hard-news/868018287001/full-documentary-broken-trust-gun-grab-at-high-river/2923814901001
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 11, 2013, 06:51:29 AM
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.prisonplanet.com/italian-riot-police-remove-helmets-join-anti-eu-protesters.html&sa=U&ei=LsGoUsG2BqjPsAT90IAI&ved=0CBAQFjAC&sig2=h9ppE8m2MuLnqoRTQCPmww&usg=AFQjCNGloU0WC5fzg6r2XI3TBDVsjZyBqw
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 12, 2013, 06:53:05 AM
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.prisonplanet.com/italian-riot-police-remove-helmets-join-anti-eu-protesters.html&sa=U&ei=LsGoUsG2BqjPsAT90IAI&ved=0CBAQFjAC&sig2=h9ppE8m2MuLnqoRTQCPmww&usg=AFQjCNGloU0WC5fzg6r2XI3TBDVsjZyBqw

Yes and they do NOT show that on euroTV
Lucky for them they have the Belgian Nobel prize winner and chain collisions in fog etc
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 12, 2013, 08:28:23 AM
I don't know how the mainstream news
whorehouse stays in business these days.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 12, 2013, 09:30:34 AM
I don't know how the mainstream news
whorehouse stays in business these days.

They report every car crash every drunken driver control every suicide every lethal accident
everything but the state of europe or USA or UK or any other country for that matter
Oh yes and three times a week they report the revolt in Ukrain that wants 18 billion from the EU
to join it lol They blame their ex leaders for succumbing under the pressure of putein to join russia
( in french a pute is a whore ) ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 12, 2013, 01:47:13 PM
Yeah,  but Justin Bieber got a tattoe.
Isn't that exciting news?  BTW, I watched
Hunger Games, finally. Pretty good movie.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on December 12, 2013, 03:28:07 PM
How's this for delusion?

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/kanye-west-is-as-misguided-as-they-come-ohio-police-chief-rejects-rappers-claims-that-his-work-is-as-dangerous-as-law-enforcement-or-military-service-9001774.html&sa=U&ei=aIuqUtXEPMXZkQeHlIG4Ag&ved=0CBUQFjAD&sig2=I7RiUAnuGIGylRkKH4--7g&usg=AFQjCNG_PphQZke_RJ-ONXOF8XwZrb9bDw
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on December 14, 2013, 09:52:49 AM
Yeah,  but Justin Bieber got a tattoe.
Isn't that exciting news?  BTW, I watched
Hunger Games, finally. Pretty good movie.

I saw The hunger games allready three times and it stays a good movie
Part two is now in our movie theaters
time for me to catch it
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 12, 2014, 11:00:43 PM
First US gold coin fetches 4.56 mio dollars  :D

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-gold-news?oid=224718&sn=Detail
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on January 29, 2014, 01:25:22 PM
"I wanna be an airborne ranger, I wanna
live the life of danger..."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-2547275%2FBREAKING-NEWS-Man-30s-dies-plunge-JP-Morgan-headquarters-Canary-Wharf.html&ei=kLXpUpakPISSyAGPyIAo&usg=AFQjCNEA0AKVMfondzETYPfMJbBCXSs09w&sig2=0GFlX-BiEZdImsqhuSmh8w
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on January 30, 2014, 08:56:48 AM
"I wanna be an airborne ranger, I wanna
live the life of danger..."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-2547275%2FBREAKING-NEWS-Man-30s-dies-plunge-JP-Morgan-headquarters-Canary-Wharf.html&ei=kLXpUpakPISSyAGPyIAo&usg=AFQjCNEA0AKVMfondzETYPfMJbBCXSs09w&sig2=0GFlX-BiEZdImsqhuSmh8w

They call themselves masters of the universe
They are university specialists in rocket science
They should know that even masters of the universe are dominated by Newtons laws
The apple falls  :D
Like they said about a lawyer at the bottom of the ocean
It is a good start  :D
Thank you for the report my friend
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 02, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
The monthly gold charts point to a 22 months feeble high in june this year

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on February 03, 2014, 05:26:37 AM
Nenner is very sure of a July bottom.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 04, 2014, 11:12:01 PM
This sounds like one of best arguments
ever for physical metals.  :)

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-02-05/bitcoin-revolutionary-game-changer-or-trojan-horse&sa=U&ei=3inyUrmGBum0yAHIxoCwDQ&ved=0CAsQFjAA&sig2=Zh7v9noLFBgyT6kM_C8o1g&usg=AFQjCNFbrECzNZSGUB8EcnArrZxU81VODQ
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2014, 03:50:23 AM
Nenner is very sure of a July bottom.

This would amaze me because I am 95% certain that june is the key date for a high
and 3% for a low and 2% for any of the two in the next months
But then again he has good company like Armstrong  ;D
I am waiting to sell for pocket money till 2016  >:(
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 05, 2014, 03:51:20 AM
This sounds like one of best arguments
ever for physical metals.  :)

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-02-05/bitcoin-revolutionary-game-changer-or-trojan-horse&sa=U&ei=3inyUrmGBum0yAHIxoCwDQ&ved=0CAsQFjAA&sig2=Zh7v9noLFBgyT6kM_C8o1g&usg=AFQjCNFbrECzNZSGUB8EcnArrZxU81VODQ

A good argument is that everybody europe and investment lettres are warning for
the dangers of bitcoin
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 12, 2014, 07:36:30 AM
Maybe someone is worried the canaries
are going to sing?


http://www.infowars.com/jp-morgan-executive-becomes-5th-banker-to-die-in-last-2-weeks/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 12, 2014, 12:23:38 PM
Maybe this is some sort of a monetary disease that could transpose itself into the U S congress.........
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 13, 2014, 05:51:00 AM
one of the german shops sent me a newsletter
advertising a canadian polar fox silver coin of 1.5 ounces
and 15 to a tube
I wonder why they choose for such strange unities

http://www.geiger-edelmetalle.de/Newsletter/Geiger_Edelmetalle_20140213.pdf
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 13, 2014, 06:56:35 AM
I believe they also have in them in 1/2 ounce.

Have you seen this?
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-12/europe-considers-wholesale-savings-confiscation-enforced-redistribution&sa=U&ei=ISL9UuWdCcW5qgGu5oHoBQ&ved=0CAsQFjAA&sig2=372P-gfhWP3-DxeHGZOR9g&usg=AFQjCNGS08zQUN6oLY4AGz3p0Ms0R-dpDA
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 16, 2014, 06:14:56 AM
There are many possible scenarios being discussed

The most credible is that accounts above 100 000 euro will be taxed by 10%
but allready Holland has one politic party that wants to leave the EU because
Brussels burocrats are too expensive.

Yesterday it was published that the average Belgian works till 59 defacto notwithstanding
official retirment is at 65 and the Belgian institute warned this is unsustainable
which we know for 20 years already
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 16, 2014, 08:28:55 AM
It's as if the 2010's are the anti-matter of
the 1980's.  :-[
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 17, 2014, 07:31:54 AM
It's as if the 2010's are the anti-matter of
the 1980's.  :-[

Duh
Armstrong has as first key date 2032
Here they talk about the lost generation
youth without job is at 25% level now in belgium
Even burglars are getting desperate they fly into belgium on
a cheap day ticket and burglarize some houses and fly back
home to their former behind the iron curtain countries
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 17, 2014, 12:53:22 PM
He's too optimistic. By 2032 most cities will
be feudal play grounds for competing gangs.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 18, 2014, 12:06:30 AM
Check out the Bitcoin  image. Should be the
8th one.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://dailyreckoning.com/the-essentialists-glossary-updated-for-the-teens-a-f/&sa=U&ei=QFkDU-LDKq3p0QHIrYDoBw&ved=0CA0QFjAA&sig2=tPeL1YX-Z-R8HfGXcu5nBg&usg=AFQjCNHWm3ywdKbs8abbnPPVGCY_GDQ0uQ
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 18, 2014, 07:47:18 AM
Check out the Bitcoin  image. Should be the
8th one.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://dailyreckoning.com/the-essentialists-glossary-updated-for-the-teens-a-f/&sa=U&ei=QFkDU-LDKq3p0QHIrYDoBw&ved=0CA0QFjAA&sig2=tPeL1YX-Z-R8HfGXcu5nBg&usg=AFQjCNHWm3ywdKbs8abbnPPVGCY_GDQ0uQ

I hope Gollum does not throw the coin and himself in the burning magma  ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: dharmaeye on February 24, 2014, 02:15:48 PM
An oldy but a goody
Debt Bomb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXcLVDhS8fM)

Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 24, 2014, 10:01:46 PM
Those dancers alone could turn someone
into a debt slave real fast.   ;D
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 24, 2014, 11:39:35 PM
Number nine, number nine, number nine...

http://www.infowars.com/another-successful-banker-found-dead/
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Goose on February 25, 2014, 01:00:40 PM
The average age of the 7 (2 had no age given) was 46.5 years. Sumptin ain't right.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 25, 2014, 01:43:58 PM
They're getting whacked.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 26, 2014, 11:33:28 PM
You might like this August. I know I did. :)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvlGW40NK_4#
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 28, 2014, 05:45:15 AM
You might like this August. I know I did. :)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvlGW40NK_4#

It says the video is private and a login needed
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on February 28, 2014, 05:52:16 AM
In unrelated news
my wife was 3 days in local univ hospital for a "camera operation"
in which the state of arteries and heart are mapped
She got front chamber fibrilation now so we are planning
for an open heart operation on one valve at the Univ of Brussels
somewhere soon

These guys here were only commissioned for the mapping and
booked a surgeon next week wednesday without telling us

So I had to tell them a second time to stuff it up where the sun dont shine
cause I distrust them moneygrabbers here.
They were unhappy  ;D :D ;D

We got ourselves one of the best independant heart specialist to
advice us and introduce us to one of the best heart surgeons at
Brussels University
cause a mitralis valve operation is very complicated
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 28, 2014, 07:50:09 AM
I have not watched this one but maybe it
has the same info-it was about a global currency
re-set.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dq5L5w1d3pUw&sa=U&ei=mPUQU9nEHsvL0gHhyYBw&ved=0CAsQtwIwAA&sig2=YyDWphM70WR02jYook-PmA&usg=AFQjCNG_KqAbSs0U3B9ZciVI6VK8nuAE5A
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on February 28, 2014, 07:51:55 AM
Best wishes for your wife August.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 01, 2014, 05:47:53 AM
Best wishes for your wife August.

Thank you

On our TV news there was another scare the people news
One of the Bitcoin sites was down and gone and the money with it they said
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: longnine009 on March 01, 2014, 05:53:14 AM
Yes, Mt. Gox is closed and missing money.
Title: Re: Gold , coins , miners , timing
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 02, 2014, 05:52:24 AM
Things are heating up
With Ukrain and Egypt
A Belgian TV crew was hassled by real Egyptian police and their material stolen
oh they call it confiscated by said police
because they were filming empty hotels in Egypt and interviewing the few
vacationers still braving the advice to stay away from Egypt
Spain is solidly back as vacation spot number one for Europeans
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Post by: longnine009 on March 02, 2014, 09:03:45 AM
Spain was #1 even in 1979. Even the Navy
managed to  stumble into Valencia, Barcelona,
Palma, and Mallorca.
Mallorca absolutly rocked. :)
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Post by: longnine009 on March 02, 2014, 09:48:44 AM
Ukraine:

We can send Jimmy Carter over there
to tell everyone to be nice. Would
that help?  :D
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 04, 2014, 01:54:50 AM
Spain was #1 even in 1979. Even the Navy
managed to  stumble into Valencia, Barcelona,
Palma, and Mallorca.
Mallorca absolutly rocked. :)

I spend three weeks honeymoon on Mallorca at Puerto del Sol
( my first airplane trip) Yes it rocked
Sangria is deadly
I later discovered Ibiza was beyond anything I had seen before
We were there the year The Wall double LP launched and there was
one discotheke that played it back to back and nothing else
Another had Beatle songs played life on electric violins , awesome

I was three times in Alicante-Marbella
I seem to remember james micheners book the drifters had those american
boys in that spot
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Post by: dharmaeye on March 05, 2014, 05:09:59 AM
Preoccupied with theft by police and related issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzfbTGnsAzI

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Post by: longnine009 on March 06, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
Daily Reckoning is reprinting some
of Harry Browne's stuff.
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Post by: longnine009 on March 16, 2014, 08:37:37 AM
Hey Monday is the big day-kerry's deadline for
Russia to reverse course on the Ukraine. 
Imagine how devastated  pootie will be when
kerry un-friends him from facebook.   :D
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Post by: Goose on March 16, 2014, 09:13:49 AM
OH NO......that can't be real, say it isn't so! Overall, pootie will do what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants it done. Is Bama going to draw another line in the sand? The last one blew away with nothing (as usual) happening.
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Post by: longnine009 on March 16, 2014, 09:32:12 AM
I think pootie already told kerry what to
do with  his deadline yesterday when they
miji-ed  a recon drone to the ground.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on March 16, 2014, 10:35:10 AM
In the meantime with his warcycle and all Armstrong seems to be losing this round to me
Up to now our timelines on gold never diverted more then a month or two
Now he has a low for summer and I have an high ( both relatively speaking )

He probable is going to blurt the cycle did not invert ( which is the normal way
of things not being upside down )

Should a low come I will blurt the inversion is very unusual  ;D
In reality in the past 15 years I saw none
And I do not have the charts to go back 30 years or more on slow stochs

So I a going to sell some for pocket money since the next high will then
be 22 months away
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Post by: longnine009 on March 31, 2014, 12:44:21 PM
Socialists get pancaked in France. Some pictures really are priceless.

http://i1.wp.com/armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hollande-shocked.jpg
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 02, 2014, 02:40:07 AM
Socialists get pancaked in France. Some pictures really are priceless.

http://i1.wp.com/armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hollande-shocked.jpg

In the locals the socialists got a beating by extreme right factions
This is the same way Belgium and Holland are heading
Everybody is tired of the hand in their pockets giving the money
to amongst others ' legal aliens ' and functionaries

In unrelated new I read something that got me rontflmho
( rolling on the floor laughing my head off)

Banks are now insuring their management team with themselves
as beneficiaries so that they get richer and richer every time one
of them commits suicide
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Post by: dharmaeye on April 15, 2014, 03:13:23 PM
August
notice some guy in Canada is selling on ebay:
France 2011 50 EURO Charlemagne Proof 1/4 Oz .920 Gold Coin
Number other coins in this series, What are your thoughts?

Silver still has quite a premium in Canada.
What seems to be happening is older gold coins with some numismatic worth seem to have the best values- selling with premium like plane jane gold coins.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 21, 2014, 09:23:27 AM
August
notice some guy in Canada is selling on ebay:
France 2011 50 EURO Charlemagne Proof 1/4 Oz .920 Gold Coin
Number other coins in this series, What are your thoughts?

Silver still has quite a premium in Canada.
What seems to be happening is older gold coins with some numismatic worth seem to have the best values- selling with premium like plane jane gold coins.

I think the Monnaie de Paris got too commercial after 2010
They have been cranking out coins like three series at 50 plus coins a year
without any esthetic value in my mind
On the other hand 1 oz coins and second half ounce coins are the most popular
If you are looking for an investment for like 5 years or so a grade like 58 or MS Napoleon would
be the best I think

What do you call older ?
A good Napoleon I is hard to get

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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 21, 2014, 09:34:43 AM
I may be away from the Castle for a while
My wife is going to have an open heart operation
on Thursday
Problem is a leaking valve causing front chamber fibrillation

 
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Post by: Humpybong on April 21, 2014, 04:48:34 PM
I may be away from the Castle for a while
My wife is going to have an open heart operation
on Thursday
Problem is a leaking valve causing front chamber fibrillation

 

I hope all goes well with the operation.

Please give her our best wishes from all here in the castle.


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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on April 23, 2014, 12:12:13 AM
I may be away from the Castle for a while
My wife is going to have an open heart operation
on Thursday
Problem is a leaking valve causing front chamber fibrillation
 

I hope all goes well with the operation.

Please give her our best wishes from all here in the castle.


Thank  you
Much appreciated

August
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Post by: Templar on April 23, 2014, 01:08:32 AM
WE WILL KEEP HER IN OUR PRAYERS..LET US KNOW HOW THINGS WORK OUT.............
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on May 09, 2014, 04:52:52 AM
24 april 4 inch incision in breast and camera operation of the mitralis valve
at brussels university
fully successful until they stopped the heart long machine
lungs collapsed and heart stopped

kept on life support for a week with ballon pump in the aorta and forced breathing

got pneumonia
and they probably damaged the aorta valve which was leaking max now

so second operation this time full thorax to repair the aorta valve

still cannot breathe independently so yesterday they operated a third time
tracheotomy to put a plastic tube through the front of the neck into the lungs

since the first operation did not stop the fibrillation they put in a pacemaker

now they found a blood clot in the heart and water in the lungs

she has been in artificial coma for 16 days now and they still say
everything is under control

they sound like the government whose having elections on may 25th
full of shit and feeling masters of the universe
of all our friends and family none is willing to help unqualified
they are willing to help when they feel like it
even my brother reminded me his eldest son is getting to be 18 tomorrow
and a simple gift is not enough

well I got my two cocker spaniels that love me and you fellow knights
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Post by: dharmaeye on May 16, 2014, 08:10:51 AM
Yes, we all learn reality in crisis situations/ shit hits the fan.
Contemplate what your partner would want.
Best wishes.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on June 07, 2014, 11:35:10 PM
Obama visited Belgium and France
France to commemorate D day
The french Monnaie de Paris mint is coining 2 euro D day coins in proof and Bu at
17 euro and 8.5 euro plus postage

I am not paying that much for a 2 euro coin
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 02, 2014, 12:16:55 AM
In private mails and so on I have been mentioning a july august gold high
Looks like Armstrong being paid will be wrong and me and seven will be right
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 02, 2014, 12:19:35 AM
I was amazed to see how easily little Belgium dominated world football cup
against mighty USA from the first ten minutes on and won 2 to 1
The mouse really roared this time 
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Post by: dharmaeye on July 03, 2014, 11:01:43 AM
I got about 3rd week in July + or _
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on July 03, 2014, 11:31:34 PM
I got about 3rd week in July + or _

The 22 months cycle ends in august
This means the down phase starts in September
Could be a short down phase


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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 27, 2014, 11:42:42 PM
It is with tears in my eyes I want to say that my wife died this night in her sleep
Thank you all for the support during her 51 days she was in hospital

August
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Post by: SirStacksALot on September 28, 2014, 08:31:38 AM
I'm so sorry for your loss, you will be in my prayers.
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Post by: Triggersmob on September 28, 2014, 11:03:15 AM
I have been worried, that I have not seen you here for awhile. I had a feeling that things might have turned worse.
My deepest sympathy to you and your family at this time of grief. :(
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Post by: Nevol on September 28, 2014, 11:10:42 AM
My sincere condolences, you are in my thoughts.  :'(
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Post by: Goose on September 28, 2014, 12:12:40 PM
My heartfelt sympathy for you, family, and friends.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 28, 2014, 08:46:13 PM
Thank you
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Post by: Humpybong on September 28, 2014, 11:06:43 PM


My sincere condolances to you and your family August.

May she rest in peace.
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Post by: Templar on September 29, 2014, 02:23:55 AM
I WAS VERY SAD TO READ THAT YOUR WIFE PASSED AWAY-----------MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY...........
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Post by: Muckeye on September 30, 2014, 11:43:19 AM
My condolences to you and your family.. May your thoughts be peaceful.

regards and best wishes,   MUCKEYE.
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Post by: Pocketcoins on October 01, 2014, 03:54:03 AM
I am so very sorry. You are in my prayers.
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Post by: Paint Your Wagon on October 01, 2014, 08:11:07 PM
She always said she wanted cremation so this is what will happen
tomorrow
Thank you for your support because my only brother has to work
and all but two friends act as if death is like ebola a dangerous
transmittable disease
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Post by: Humpybong on October 01, 2014, 09:48:00 PM

Sorry I cannot be there August.

Australia to far away, but all the best tomorrow.